New stuff I found in the computer
FREDRICK FELTMAN
listings.
G1 Ricochet(???) skn 882774 model# 80831 $34.99
G1 Skids skn 958360 model#80829 $29.99
G1 Sideswipe(YAY!)skn 010947 model#80710 $29.99
Optimus Prime Megatron 2p(presumed 2-pack) skn 010990 model# 29976 $39.99
Energon Black Omega Supreme skn 890106 model# 80344 $49.99
This is al l stuff I had not noticed before. I have known about Skids, but
nor Sideswipe or Ricochet(Who the hell is that, anyway?). I am not sure
which Optimus and Megatron will be there, I am thinking either Beastwars or
RID, cause thats like half the price of the Armada versions combined. Oh,
and my store is pending the Ramjet w/ 3 minicons on this weeks truck(which
is Wednesday). Hope it has different minicons that Sunstorm.
--
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Zobovor the Know-It-All
>Hi all. I was searching around my Stores computer tonight and found some new
>listings.
Ooh, thanks for reporting this to us. (Now watch one of the message boards
hastily throw it up on their site and announce that they broke the story
first.)
>G1 Ricochet(???) skn 882774 model# 80831 $34.99
Hmm, how interesting. My first instinct is that this is obviously an existing
G1 character who's been assigned a new name because Hasbro lost the trademark
to the original moniker. At that price, though, it's not one of the
Diaclone-style cars. It's also probably a toy that Takara's already reissued
in Japan, since it seems unlikely that Hasbro would pay to do the testing and
retooling of the molds themselves. The most likely candidate would be Ramjet,
given the price point, but we know Hasbro *owns* that name, so I can't imagine
why they'd arbitrarily reassign it.
I'm leaning towards the possibility that Hasbro's actually going to take
another one of the generic Decepticon jets and assign it an official name.
(They've apparently noticed how inexplicably popular Sunstorm's become, but
since they won't be offering Japanese exclusives domestically, maybe theyr'e
doing the next best thing?)
Or, perhaps I'm putting too much thought into this. If we're getting Ricochet,
can Boomer and Quickmix be very far behind?
>G1 Skids skn 958360 model#80829 $29.99
Ah, this is good. Back when the concept of G1 reissues was just becoming a
reality, a lot of people were clamoring over the idea of a Skids reissue, and I
steadfastly maintained that I didn't want to see it happen yet. Well, now that
we've gotten 20 or so reissue toys, I say go right ahead. Now *is* a good time
for Skids. If he piles up in Toys "R" Us stores all across the globe, well,
the line is likely winding down to a close anyway, so no real harm done. My
concern was that I didn't want to see him released as part of the initial
assortment, and for Hasbro/TRU to misinterpret his distinct lack of popularity
as a sign that the G1 reissues were a bad move. That's all.
>G1 Sideswipe(YAY!)skn 010947 model#80710 $29.99
Ah, excellent. I was wondering when they were going to get around to him.
Wonder if he'll have the tampo-printed headlight deco?
>Optimus Prime Megatron 2p(presumed 2-pack) skn 010990 model# 29976 $39.99
Hmm. No indication whether this is a G1 set, or Energon, or what. It strikes
me as highly unlikely that a proper two-pack of both characters would only cost
$40, since the only pairing of toys I can think of that might fit into that
price point would be reissues of the G2 Combat Hero toys, and somehow I don't
really see that happening. (It would be awesome to get those toys in G1
colors, though.) My guess is that this is a re-release of G1 Optimus Prime,
only this time he comes with a weapon-mode Megatron accessory.
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>>G1 Ricochet(???) skn 882774 model# 80831 $34.99
> I'm leaning towards the possibility that Hasbro's actually going to take
> another one of the generic Decepticon jets and assign it an official name.
Bwa? That seems like a really bizarre guess to me. I much prefer your
first theory that it's an old character with a new name, for whatever
reason.
> (They've apparently noticed how inexplicably popular Sunstorm's become, but
> since they won't be offering Japanese exclusives domestically, maybe theyr'e
> doing the next best thing?)
What makes you say they've "noticed" that?
>>Optimus Prime Megatron 2p(presumed 2-pack) skn 010990 model# 29976 $39.99
> [snip]
> My guess is that this is a re-release of G1 Optimus Prime,
> only this time he comes with a weapon-mode Megatron accessory.
This, too, seems like a bizarre guess. I guess there was that "Anime
Starscream" that came with a little Megatron, but... that's about the only
precedent for such an item I can think of. And I definitely would not
call that a 2-pack. (Or even a 2p.) I think some sort of Universe item
would be more likely.
--Steve-o
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Richard Mistron
> Hi all. I was searching around my Stores computer tonight and
> found some new listings.
>
> G1 Ricochet(???) skn 882774 model# 80831 $34.99
I remember this name coming up before somewhere along the lines. Perhaps
it's... geez, I dunno.
Hound... not likely.
Wheeljack... they have the name IIRC.
Ironhide... ditto
Ratchet... maybe a miscommunication, but that's a high price.
Sunstreaker... not been reissued by Takara yet.
Trailbreaker... can't see that, but maybe.
Maybe it's Thrust? There's a name that hasn't been reassigned in a while.
> Optimus Prime Megatron 2p(presumed 2-pack) skn 010990 model# 29976 $39.99
Possibly a TFU exclusive. Super-Con Armada Prime Vs. RiD Megatron?
> Energon Black Omega Supreme skn 890106 model# 80344 $49.99
??? I find the occurrence of the word black odd as I don't believe Omega is
all that black unless TPTB have radically changed the paint scheme since Toy
Fair or they're offering a TRU-Exclusive color scheme.
These are just guesses and in no way are meant to be taken completely
serious.
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Zobovor the Know-It-All
>> I'm leaning towards the possibility that Hasbro's actually going to take
>> another one of the generic Decepticon jets and assign it an official name.
>
>Bwa? That seems like a really bizarre guess to me. I much prefer your
>first theory that it's an old character with a new name, for whatever
>reason.
If that's the case, though, then which character might it be? At that price
point, it sure seems like a Decepticon jet to me. The only two canonical jets
left are Ramjet and Thrust, and we know Hasbro still owns both those names.
And the only other toy at that price point that Takara's done the tooling for,
as far as I know, was Rodimus Prime.
>> (They've apparently noticed how inexplicably popular Sunstorm's become, but
>> since they won't be offering Japanese exclusives domestically, maybe
>>theyr'e doing the next best thing?)
>
>What makes you say they've "noticed" that?
Well, they released the TFU toy named Sunstorm, didn't they? Why else would
they use that name, and those colors, if not to pay homage to an extremely
obscure G1 character who's only recently been thrust into the limelight?
>>>Optimus Prime Megatron 2p(presumed 2-pack) skn 010990 model# 29976 $39.99
>> [snip]
>> My guess is that this is a re-release of G1 Optimus Prime,
>> only this time he comes with a weapon-mode Megatron accessory.
>
>This, too, seems like a bizarre guess. I guess there was that "Anime
>Starscream" that came with a little Megatron, but... that's about the only
>precedent for such an item I can think of. And I definitely would not
>call that a 2-pack. (Or even a 2p.) I think some sort of Universe item
>would be more likely.
I'm open to other possibilities, of course. Assuming it really is a 2-pack,
though, what other versions of Optimus and Megatron could they possibly be
trying to sell together for $40? Certainly not the Energon toys. Not the
Armada toys, either. I can't really think of *any* logical pairing of two toys
that would work at that price. (Well, maybe the Beast Wars Transmetals toys.
Hasbro's just crazy enough to paint Transmetal Primal red and blue and call it
Optimus Prime.)
Or, maybe "2p" stands for two-player game, and they're bringing back the
"Battlin' Bots" (read: Rock 'Em Sock 'Em Robots) toy! Oh, that would so rock.
No pun intended. :)
M Sipher
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> On 30 Mar 2004 05:23:23 GMT, Zobovor the Know-It-All wrote:
> >>G1 Ricochet(???) skn 882774 model# 80831 $34.99
> > [snip]
> > I'm leaning towards the possibility that Hasbro's actually going to take
> > another one of the generic Decepticon jets and assign it an official
name.
>
> Bwa? That seems like a really bizarre guess to me. I much prefer your
> first theory that it's an old character with a new name, for whatever
> reason.
Well, to be honest, I'd PREFER it be a "new" G1 character based on a
background jet.
I don't really know how LIKELY such a thing is, mind you.
Of course, I have no clue what G1 TFs Takara's revived recently that would
go for $35 that Hasbro A) hasn't released already and/or B) don't have the
trademark to the G1 names...
> >>Optimus Prime Megatron 2p(presumed 2-pack) skn 010990 model# 29976
$39.99
> > [snip]
> > My guess is that this is a re-release of G1 Optimus Prime,
> > only this time he comes with a weapon-mode Megatron accessory.
>
> This, too, seems like a bizarre guess. I guess there was that "Anime
> Starscream" that came with a little Megatron, but... that's about the only
> precedent for such an item I can think of. And I definitely would not
> call that a 2-pack. (Or even a 2p.) I think some sort of Universe item
> would be more likely.
Or a two-pack of Super Link STD Convoy and Galvatron.
I mean... $10 + $30.
M "That Would Be My Bet" Sipher
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the name for. When they use a different name, it usually is something
similar to the original. Only ones that make sense to me would be Ramjet and
Blurr. They have both of those names, though. What about Sunstreaker? Anyone
know of Hasbro has access to that name? What about maybe Reflector? Light
reflects. Light Ricochets. Kinda makes sense.
I am thinking the Optimus/ Megatron are the Beast Wars Optimus Primal and
Megatron Trex. They have already done Primal as a TFU fig. And they have
released the T-rex mold a few times. They seem the most likely to me. And
the Price point fits, as they were both $20 separately. $40 together is
about right.
the MAdd1!!
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M Sipher
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> Of course, I have no clue what G1 TFs Takara's revived recently that would
> go for $35 that Hasbro A) hasn't released already and/or B) don't have the
> trademark to the G1 names...
I just remembered that TFU Ramjet, a TRU exclusive, ALSO showed up in the
TRU computer as "G1" at first.
M "Opens Up Some Possibilities" Sipher
M
I seem to recall someone saying a while ago that the french name for Springer
was Ricochet...maybe it is still lingering in the system?
M
Best quote from a Tf:
Ultra Magnus: Better hurry, that Quintesson guard is getting uglier by the
second!
Just as soon as I belong, then its time I disappear.
David Willis
> $39.99
> > > [snip]
> > > My guess is that this is a re-release of G1 Optimus Prime,
> > > only this time he comes with a weapon-mode Megatron accessory.
> Or a two-pack of Super Link STD Convoy and Galvatron.
>
> I mean... $10 + $30.
Or a 2-pack of Hero Prime and Megs again, painted to be themselves.
--David
Hell if I know. That'd be pretty pricey for those two, though.
www.itswalky.com
Zobovor the Know-It-All
>Or a 2-pack of Hero Prime and Megs again, painted to be themselves.
Hey, wait. I've got it. What if it's repaints of the G2 Combat Hero toys?
Derik Smith
>message boards hastily throw it up on their site and announce
>that they broke the story first.)
See, now this is what I don't understand about Traansfan news coverage.
Back when I admin'd for a Power Rangers news site, we did just the opposite,
you post the REALLY hot info you can get in trouble for hosting to a public
forum like usenet using a dummy identity- and then report on the post, not the
info. You're still the first news site to have it covered...
For INSTANCE, if I wanted to report on the warehouse distribution pattern
of the 3rd Del Rey novel (one singular copy arrived from the vendor at the
bookazine warehouse two days ago, and sometime this afternoon 100 copies
arrived in Fort Wayne, expect your copy to ship out of Fort Wayne tomorrow or
wednesday if you pre-ordered) I'd NEVER stick that straight on a web site. I'd
use usenet. Such information is Barnes and Noble proprietary, a site could get
in trouble for reporting shit like that! Or, like an estimate of BN sales
numbers on the Armada DVD's based on a week of watching the internal warehouse
numbers change. What're they gonna do, sue usenet?
...worth noting, I've been told that my sense of right and wrong is
somewhat questionable.
Oh, and the 'Armada DVD w/ sticker sheet' is identical to the normal DVD-
just looks like it has a sticker sheet inside the case, and a different product
number. (Can't comment on the stickers- since I didn't buy it, I'm waiting for
a box.) It's officially on sale tomorrow.
>>G1 Ricochet(???) skn 882774 model# 80831 $34.99
>
>Hmm, how interesting. My first instinct is that this is obviously
>an existing G1 character who's been assigned a new name because
>Hasbro lost the trademark to the original moniker. At that price,
>though, it's not one of the Diaclone-style cars.
$35 is an odd price point for a TF. We seem to get $30 toys and $40 toys,
but nothing in between- except for overpriced G1 jets.
Of course, I will not be baraged with examples of every #35 dollar toy
from 1997 on I've forgotten. :p
>It's also probably
>a toy that Takara's already reissued in Japan, since it seems unlikely
>that Hasbro would pay to do the testing and retooling of the molds
>themselves. The most likely candidate would be Ramjet, given the
>price point, but we know Hasbro *owns* that name, so I can't
>imagine why they'd arbitrarily reassign it.
Perhaps Orson has had it with us, and is now just sadisticly dicking with
the fans?
It's not one of those Slag/Slugfest pre-name things though... Ricochet was
one of the names hasbro filed for at the same time as Superion Maximus. (Huh,
I just realised- that makes the 5th or 6th Maximus depending on how you
count...)
Agree with Zob, it's probably a new jet character. Also agree that like
Sunstorm it's likely to be based on one of the cartoon generics.
Here's a short list of what I feel are the top contenders:
http://members.aol.com/regenesis0/sk/st.html
This is by no means a complete list of contenders. No, that's not
Raksha's lady in purple, it's Dude in Purple, a Decepticon with good survival
instincts from MtMtE p3.
The green fellow is the most straightforward. A simple color swap for
Thundercracker, a decent, bold color scheme, completely distinct from any of
the existing jets.
I have not included the infamous '4th' light purple jet from MtMtE given
Hasbro's well-documented prejudice against the color purple.
Several of these choices have the oddity that their jet instakes are
colored seperately from their torsos, which is... not how the toy works.
However- the initial photobash of Sunstorm's toy had this color approach,
indicating that Takara was at least considering the paint maskign it'd require.
(IMO, it disrupts the vehicle mode's appearance.)
The Dirge-themed one is striking,b ut has the disadvantage that he'd be
almot identical to Dirge's toy. Nice distinct CHARACTER- but he'd make a
better PVC recolor than a seeker toy.
The pale gentlebot is reasonably practical. Intakes and pelvis woudl
become dark gray, but overall it'd be fairly possible to carry off the feel of
the this colro scheme on the G1 toy. (I'd absolute demand they colored his
face light grey though- liek they did for Black Starscream- it loosk
fantastic.)
He also has the recomendation of looking the most like Ricochet, since
Hasbro wasn't able to assert any rights over Spider-man.. ;-)
However, I honestly think that the dark purple guy is most likely. Part of
the trio with Sunstorm in MtMtE, bold traditional Decepticon colors, and he has
a gimick. (His flamethrower, though I suppose that ability doesn't line up to
well with Ricochet, does it?)
The fundamental reason I favor that one? The letters page to the G1
ongoing #2 indicated that the generic seeker corpses Wreck-gar recovered for
Megatron in #0... were those of the Air Cavalry-- the trio of purple troop
builders PVC's from OTTFCC, and we can expect to see them in the comic.
Cross-promotion. Purple toy of one of the Air Cavalry units, with an
individual name, etc etc.
(Which, given the way the AC jets were colored, basicly means I should
have included the light purple jet from MtMtE in my lineup. Bother. Well,
fuck it, he's dull.)
-Derik
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Ricochet, and found:
http://www.tfw2005.com/article-1409--0-0.html
From back in February, as well as :
http://pub44.ezboard.com/fcybertronianalliancefrm35.showMessage?topicID=901.topic
From the same timeframe. I am leaning on it being Springer, as Canada has
French as one of its main languages, why not use the French name for
Springer.
And where can you find what names Hasbro has gotten or not gotten?
The MAdd1!!
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Aaron F. Bourque
>G1 Ricochet(???) skn 882774 model# 80831 $34.99
First thought: G1 Megs reissue.
Yes, I'm weird.
Aaron "The Mad Whitaker" Bourque
--
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If that is true, how come they live so much longer then . . ?
Nothing says maturity like transforming toys for ten-year-olds.
Did Megatron's giant Sphinx come from US parts?
Aaron F. Bourque
>And the only other toy at that price point that Takara's done the
>tooling for, as far as I know, was Rodimus Prime.
Which I could swear I saw at TRU over the weekend . . .
Aaron "The Mad Whitaker" Bourque; I didn't check, though. It said
"Rodimus" something, and I already have my Hot Rod, so I didn't
care.
Steve-o Stonebraker
Pffft. I think something like redeco'd versions of the "Hero Prime" and
"Hero Megatron" is a lot more likely.
necrotron
> > Hey, wait. I've got it. What if it's repaints of the G2 Combat Hero
toys?
>
> Pffft. I think something like redeco'd versions of the "Hero Prime" and
> "Hero Megatron" is a lot more likely.
Nope. They're repainting the Kaybee Bludgeon and Scourge into Megatron and
Optimus Prime! Wouldn't that be cool!
:)
Joe
necrotron
Desperado00
>Optimus Prime! Wouldn't that be cool!
Oh, come now. Scourge looks nothing like Megatron, and Bludgeon doesn't even
begin to resemble Optimus Prime...
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> From: zob...@aol.comettor (Zobovor the Know-It-All)
>
> >And the only other toy at that price point that Takara's done the
> >tooling for, as far as I know, was Rodimus Prime.
>
> Which I could swear I saw at TRU over the weekend . . .
He is out now. And has the second-worst art in the entire TF reissue line.
M "Lee, Natch" Sipher
M Sipher
> I am leaning on it being Springer, as Canada has
> French as one of its main languages, why not use the French name for
> Springer.
That'd be an awfully small $35 item. Springer would fit easily in the normal
reissue box.
Plus Takara hasn't revived that mold. I know Hasbro said they were hoping to
do a G1 mold or two "first", but still.
I'll just point out again that just because the computer says "G1", it might
not be an actual G1 mold. I mean, TFU Ramjet.
M "And The Product Number Actually Doesn't Help, Oddly Enough" Sipher
Desperado00
Don't keep me waiting. Who has the worst?
Paul Segal
>
> Agree with Zob, it's probably a new jet character. Also agree that like
>Sunstorm it's likely to be based on one of the cartoon generics.
>
> Here's a short list of what I feel are the top contenders:
>
>http://members.aol.com/regenesis0/sk/st.html
> The green fellow is the most straightforward. A simple color swap for
>Thundercracker, a decent, bold color scheme, completely distinct from any of
>the existing jets.
That would be very cool, since it's definitely the most distinctive compared to
the existing seekers.
> The pale gentlebot is reasonably practical. Intakes and pelvis woudl
>become dark gray, but overall it'd be fairly possible to carry off the feel
>of
>the this colro scheme on the G1 toy. (I'd absolute demand they colored his
>face light grey though- liek they did for Black Starscream- it loosk
>fantastic.)
I'd love to have this one. It would be the most realistic color scheme on a
Decepticon jet so far, and it would just look generally great. I love toys that
are black and white or greyscale with one color (in this case, 'con-sigil
purple). I'd buy this one in a second.
-Paul Segal
Email: aster...@yahoo.com AIM: asterphage
Website: http://asterphage.lunarpages.com
This newsgroup is ridiculous.
Iacon
> "Aaron F. Bourque" <aaronb...@aol.comdotaolat> wrote in message
> > From: zob...@aol.comettor (Zobovor the Know-It-All)
> > Rodimus Prime.
> >
> > Which I could swear I saw at TRU over the weekend . . .
>
> He is out now. And has the second-worst art in the entire TF reissue line.
So you're putting Dirge in the top spot then? He's pretty bad, but to my
eyes, Baron-Harkkonen-bloated-with-slave-blood, head-like-a-gall-stone Rodimus
is several orders of magnitude more horrible than anything else... ever.
Unless you're taking extra points off Dirge for the notable lack of a
conehead. On one level, it does seem odd that Mr. Lee would go with the
flipped back look after using the classic cone configuration in DWG1V2. But
then again, the toy equivalent is probably just different enough from the
cartoon's shortened cone that drawing the latter on the box would constitute
false advertising (and you know how much of a stickler Hasbro is for that sort
of thing... ...). And I shudder to think what might have resulted if Mr. Lee
tried to render a toyetic version of the cone...
--
Eyrekonn (... it wouldn't bad so bad if they didn't blow up Roddy's art so
damn big-- there's nowhere else to look)
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black. I only say that because I seem to remember seeing US reissue
Magnus for about 35, and I want one.
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> M Sipher wrote:
>
> > "Aaron F. Bourque" <aaronb...@aol.comdotaolat> wrote in message
> > > From: zob...@aol.comettor (Zobovor the Know-It-All)
> > > Rodimus Prime.
> > >
> > > Which I could swear I saw at TRU over the weekend . . .
> >
> > He is out now. And has the second-worst art in the entire TF reissue
line.
>
> So you're putting Dirge in the top spot then?
Heck no! Dirge has awesome art! He's playing air guitar, man! If I
weren't
getting him already, I'd get him for the art alone. I mean, not to say
otherwise
the art has no merit -- it's okay by itself -- but, c'mon. Air DIRRRRRGE.
Sipher is probably rating Grapple's art as the worst.
--David
www.itswalky.com
Prime Saber
>
> From: "FREDRICK FELTMAN" kor...@verizon.net
>
> >G1 Ricochet(???) skn 882774 model# 80831 $34.99
>
> First thought: G1 Megs reissue.
>
> Yes, I'm weird.
That's what I thought, too (bullets do ricochet),
but then why not use Megatron's name anyway? Hasbro couldn't have
lost the rights to the name already. :)
Tony Li, the Prime Saber
Overlord of Japanese TFs from Headmasters through Super Link at
http://www.primesaber.com
Daniel Suh
> He is out now. And has the second-worst art in the entire TF reissue line.
I dunno, Rodimus Prime's art is pretty damn awful, especially since somebody
seems to have botched the colouring to make him seem even deader and lamer
than the typical Lee concoction.
I shudder to think of Lee doing the art for an eventual reissue Grimlock. I
wish they'd go back to using the original G1 art.
Susp, or Guido. They should absolutely use Guido.
"Experience is the benchmark of maturity." -Rodimus Prime
M Sipher
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> >He is out now. And has the second-worst art in the entire TF reissue
line.
>
> Don't keep me waiting. Who has the worst?
That would be Grapple, who was also drawn by Pat Overrated Undertalented
Lee.
The guy whose rifle is somehow both in front of and behind his shoulder AT
THE SAME TIME.
M "Why Does He Still Get Work Outside Of His Own Company?" Sipher
M Sipher
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> > > He is out now. And has the second-worst art in the entire TF reissue
> line.
> >
> > So you're putting Dirge in the top spot then?
>
> Heck no! Dirge has awesome art! He's playing air guitar, man! If I
> weren't
> getting him already, I'd get him for the art alone. I mean, not to say
> otherwise
> the art has no merit -- it's okay by itself -- but, c'mon. Air DIRRRRRGE.
A little slap-bass action. Hee hee. I wonder what Patty was REALLY trying to
draw.
> Sipher is probably rating Grapple's art as the worst.
You're damn right I am.
M "Rodimus' Art Doesn't Break Any Laws Of Physics, Near As I Can See" Sipher
Cradok
> M "Rodimus' Art Doesn't Break Any Laws Of Physics, Near As I Can See"
Sipher
Could be worse. It could be free-floating in space like Prime's arm and head
on the very first Autobot cover....
Steve-o Stonebraker
>>> (They've apparently noticed how inexplicably popular Sunstorm's become, but
>>> since they won't be offering Japanese exclusives domestically, maybe
>>>theyr'e doing the next best thing?)
>>
>
> Well, they released the TFU toy named Sunstorm, didn't they? Why else would
> they use that name, and those colors, if not to pay homage to an extremely
> obscure G1 character who's only recently been thrust into the limelight?
I dunno... just for the hell of it? The same reason for a lot of their
name assignments? They already had the name in their pocket after the HOC
version from OTFCC, so why not? I mean... why would they release a BM
Jetstorm toy called Jhiaxus? Answer: Because Frankel, fanboy that he is,
insisted they get the name. Then he left. Then the TF team said, well,
we got this name, I guess we should put it on something. Voila, RID
Jhiaxus is born.
Grue
> Oh,
> and my store is pending the Ramjet w/ 3 minicons on this
weeks
> truck(which is Wednesday). Hope it has different minicons
than
> Sunstorm.
>
It appears he comes with a repaint of the Air Military mini-
con team, and a slightly recolored Thunderclash:
ShingoEX
Know-It-All) wrote:
>
>I'm open to other possibilities, of course. Assuming it really is a 2-pack,
>though, what other versions of Optimus and Megatron could they possibly be
>trying to sell together for $40? Certainly not the Energon toys. Not the
>Armada toys, either. I can't really think of *any* logical pairing of two toys
>that would work at that price. (Well, maybe the Beast Wars Transmetals toys.
>Hasbro's just crazy enough to paint Transmetal Primal red and blue and call it
>Optimus Prime.)
>
A Universe reissue of Hero Prime and Megs isn't really "that" out of
the question, is it?
Derik Smith
Because his stuff looks like Ghost in the Shell?
Read his issue of Batman/Superman. His visual storytellign was much
cleaer, makes me think he needs to be firmly scripted. Plus his humans look...
not like his robots. (They don't much look like the characters they're
supposed to be either, but they don't look terribly goofy like his robots do.)
Derik Smith
>con team, and a slightly recolored Thunderclash:
Is ramjet being sold as an Autobot or a Decepticon? He appears to have
his faction symbols repainted here...
Paul Segal
>
>>M "Why Does He Still Get Work Outside Of His Own Company?" Sipher
>
> Because his stuff looks like Ghost in the Shell?
You think so? But everything Shirow draws looks the same, and Lee can't even
draw Prime the same way in two adjacant panels (unless he digitally copies
it...).
Seriously though, Shirow is ten times the draftsman Lee is. And his robots are
better too.
> Read his issue of Batman/Superman. His visual storytellign was much
>cleaer, makes me think he needs to be firmly scripted. Plus his humans
>look...
>not like his robots. (They don't much look like the characters they're
>supposed to be either, but they don't look terribly goofy like his robots
>do.)
Dirtyred
>> M "Why Does He Still Get Work Outside Of His Own Company?" Sipher
>
> Because his stuff looks like Ghost in the Shell?
>
> Read his issue of Batman/Superman. His visual storytellign was
> much cleaer, makes me think he needs to be firmly scripted. Plus his
> humans look... not like his robots. (They don't much look like the
> characters they're supposed to be either, but they don't look
> terribly goofy like his robots do.)
Ugh. I was not impressed by that issue of Superman/Batman at all.
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> >M "Why Does He Still Get Work Outside Of His Own Company?" Sipher
>
> Because his stuff looks like Ghost in the Shell?
>
> Read his issue of Batman/Superman. His visual storytellign was much
> cleaer, makes me think he needs to be firmly scripted. Plus his humans
look...
> not like his robots. (They don't much look like the characters they're
> supposed to be either, but they don't look terribly goofy like his robots
do.)
Argh. Why must Pat Lee suddenly dip his hands in EVERYTHING I
read? Transformers, Batman/Superman.... at least I can rest safe in the
knowledge that he'll never ever touch Ultimate Spider-man.
*knock on wood*
Man. Superman/Batman #7 was .... not good. I mean, it wasn't the best
story, and Loeb's a little hit-and-miss anyway, but... the art must made it
over-the-top oy. I disagree with you, and think his robots are better than
his humans. And, man, his robots are generally not good. Lee was best
in War & Peace, where 90% of the time you could actually tell what was
going on, and I didn't actively dislike it. Story and characterization
existing
didn't hurt either. But my reasoning is -- I know what humans look like.
There's an actual real-life standard to compare his work to there. With
robots -- hey, it's what imagination brings. Sure, Prime looks like the
Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man, but it isn't until he transforms into a "truck"
that your eyes start to bleed. I've seen trucks. They don't look like
that. They at least have an EVEN NUMBER OF WHEELS. Pat Lee
gets away with robots more with me because it's easier to get away
with fudging them.
But, man, his humans in S/B#7 were just freaking DOOFY. I nearly
burst out laughing at most panels (like when Superboy starts to
charge and mentions Toyman's dog trying to bite his head off -- I
swear, he's dancing like a fool), and in others, I sorta squint, trying
to figure out exactly is going on, or why the perspective doesn't work,
or who let him make everyone look so flat and get away with it.
(Check out Superman in the big spread starting on page 2.)
The inking, the coloring -- it's a mess. I expect better from Dream-
wave. They're supposed to be the guys who make things look
professional and anime and super-duper sparkly -- and the whole
issue looks like hell.
The robots looked fine. And were a welcome reprieve from
the humans. Even if their mere existence in the story was
eyeroll-worthy.
Man, Dreamwave really needed Brad Mick.
--David
I hope they pay him well.
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David Willis
> >It appears he comes with a repaint of the Air Military mini-
> >con team, and a slightly recolored Thunderclash:
>
> Is ramjet being sold as an Autobot or a Decepticon? He appears to
have
> his faction symbols repainted here...
Decepticon.
--David
www.itswalky.com
Hotmissile
fray!
Hey, I never noticed that till now.
Is the reissue boxart online anywhere? I swear I've never seen
Rodimus' box. (I ~know~ I've seen Dirge's, because I remember the
freaky non-conehead look. Damned if I know ~where~ I saw it, though.)
Mic // Hotmissile
hotmissile_lives is the answer.
That is all.
Cradok
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> Is the reissue boxart online anywhere? I swear I've never seen
> Rodimus' box. (I ~know~ I've seen Dirge's, because I remember the
> freaky non-conehead look. Damned if I know ~where~ I saw it, though.)
BBTS have pretty big pics of them. Don't know where else does, though.
Thunderous Citizen Iron Moose!
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> Hi all. I was searching around my Stores computer tonight and found some
new
> listings.
>
> G1 Ricochet(???) skn 882774 model# 80831 $34.99
What if it's Landcross?
> Optimus Prime Megatron 2p(presumed 2-pack) skn 010990 model# 29976 $39.99
My money's either on Big Convoy and *someone else* or STD Grand Convoy and
Superlink Galvatron.
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Ethan Hammond
He does? Maybe it is like how Rob Liefeld still gets work after
he was kicked out of his own company.
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>
> It appears he comes with a repaint of the Air Military mini-
> con team, and a slightly recolored Thunderclash:
>
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?F4D0224E7
Heh the one X-Dimension team I get and they release it over
here. Rumble, rumble, rumble!!!!
Pyre
>
> Heh the one X-Dimension team I get and they release it over
> here. Rumble, rumble, rumble!!!!
>
That's not the X-Dimension Military team.
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>
> > Heh the one X-Dimension team I get and they release it over
> > here. Rumble, rumble, rumble!!!!
>
> That's not the X-Dimension Military team.
The difference dosen't look that great though.
Aaron F. Bourque
>"Aaron F. Bourque" wrote:
>>
>> From: "FREDRICK FELTMAN" kor...@verizon.net
>>
>> >G1 Ricochet(???) skn 882774 model# 80831 $34.99
>>
>> First thought: G1 Megs reissue.
>>
>> Yes, I'm weird.
>
>That's what I thought, too (bullets do ricochet),
>but then why not use Megatron's name anyway? Hasbro
>couldn't have lost the rights to the name already. :)
What, are you crazy? You can't name a gun Megatron in the US!
That'd be illegal!
Aaron "The Mad Whitaker" Bourque; unless they packaged it in
robot mode...
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Did Megatron's giant Sphinx come from US parts?
FREDRICK FELTMAN
it yet. I just got it tonight. Best time to buy it, really, with the Sale
that you get an Energon basic figure(got Divebomb again) Free with a $14.99
or more purchase. Best $19.99 I ever spent, so far. It looks all kewl. I
don't know if Armada Skywarp had vtol fans(ala G1 Thrust) on the tail fins
or not, but Ramjet does. Its mostly white, with spatterings of Red, Blue,
and yellow. Not unlike Certain Gundam figures paintjobs(dripping sarcasm
there, huh.). Thunderclash looks sweet, even though its the same color
except blue where Skywarp's Thuinderclash was purple. Whats in the box for
the Air military team are different colors than whats pictured on the back.
Thunderwing is Black and gold where the original was Grey and gold.
Terradive is Black, Purple and Orange where the original was Black, Light
Blue, and Silver. Gunbarrel is exactly the same. I'm disappointed in that.
I kind of liked the ones pictured on the back, especially Thunderwing with
the flames. Still, I like it so far. Now..all I need to find is an Energon
Ultra Magnus, with repainted Space team. Those are the ONLY minicons
released that I have not gotten. Well, those and the Energon 6 packs, but
they aren't repaints.
The MAdd1!!
ha
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> "Pyre" <pyres...@crosswinds.net> wrote in message
> >
> > > Heh the one X-Dimension team I get and they release it over
> > > here. Rumble, rumble, rumble!!!!
> >
> > That's not the X-Dimension Military team.
>
> The difference dosen't look that great though.
The X-Dimension Air Military Team is entirely black, excepting white hinges
and some tiny cockpit paint apps.
I'd say that's a pretty great difference.
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Robert Powers
Lo, for here, hewn into the very living rock may be found the last words
of Thunderous Citizen Iron Moose! :
>> G1 Ricochet(???) skn 882774 model# 80831 $34.99
>
>What if it's Landcross?
Sounds a bit pricey for him. You can import him for $5-10 less than
that (*waves at Captured Prey*).
If they DID do Landcross.... I wonder if they might rename him for the
Throttlebots? Color-wise, the team offers good analogues of Rollbar,
Wideload, and Chase. You'd lose the elegant combining-name scheme,
though (probably in favor of "Powerlinx Chase!"), and that would be a
shame.
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Hotmissile
the fray!
>
> >> G1 Ricochet(???) skn 882774 model# 80831 $34.99
> >
> >What if it's Landcross?
>
> Throttlebots? Color-wise, the team offers good analogues of Rollbar,
> Wideload, and Chase. You'd lose the elegant combining-name scheme,
> though (probably in favor of "Powerlinx Chase!"), and that would be a
> shame.
What, you mean elegant like "Tackle Tacker" and "Dash Mack"? Maybe
they sound better in a Japanese accent.
But then again, I suppose it is still more interesting than PX
Chase. And you could have...
| Freechase | Goldchase
Chaseway | | Goldway
Chasebug | Freebug |
Chasebar | Freebar | Goldbar
Chaselight | Freelight | Goldlight
Chaseload | Freeload | Goldload
----------------------------------------
Rollchase | Searchchase | Widechase
Rollway | Searchway | Wideway
Rollbug | Searchbug | Widebug
| Searchbar | Widebar
Rolllight | | Widelight
Rollload | Searchload |
Hmm. Some of those aren't too bad, even if I do say so myself.
Robert Powers
Lo, for here, hewn into the very living rock may be found the last words
> What, you mean elegant like "Tackle Tacker" and "Dash Mack"? Maybe
>they sound better in a Japanese accent.
Okay, yeah, point well taken. Still, "Mach Tackle" sounds pretty cool.
> Rolllight | | Widelight
> Rollload | Searchload |
Maybe they could name the shuttle Astrotrain. Then he could combine
with the green guy to become the ROLLLLLLLLLtrain.
Ethan Hammond
>
> The X-Dimension Air Military Team is entirely black, excepting white
hinges
> and some tiny cockpit paint apps.
>
> I'd say that's a pretty great difference.
And these guys are black with brown?
Thunderous Citizen Iron Moose!
> "Thunderous Citizen Iron Moose!" <Baron...@Yahoo.Ca> wrote in message
> >
> > The X-Dimension Air Military Team is entirely black, excepting white
> hinges
> > and some tiny cockpit paint apps.
> >
> > I'd say that's a pretty great difference.
>
> And these guys are black with brown?
Not in the least. Gunbarrel is brownish-grey with red, Terradive is dark
blue, faded medium blue and orange, and Thunderwing is dark brown with gold
and blue.
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Ka Faraq Gatri
>>M "Why Does He Still Get Work Outside Of His Own Company?" Sipher
>
> Because his stuff looks like Ghost in the Shell?
>
> Read his issue of Batman/Superman. His visual storytellign was much
>cleaer,
It was? I went through that whole issue wondering what the heck was
supposed to be happening.
> makes me think he needs to be firmly scripted.
Being forced to take an art class wouldn't hurt, either. Or at least
to look at the relevant character designs.
> Plus his humans look...
>not like his robots. (They don't much look like the characters they're
>supposed to be either, but they don't look terribly goofy like his robots do.)
He somehow managed to create renditions of Robin & Superboy that
were almost identical. Despite the different hair and Robin's mask, In
a couple scenes I couldn't tell them apart in close-ups.
Dave Connell aka Ka Faraq Gatri
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Grue
> I
> don't know if Armada Skywarp had vtol fans(ala G1 Thrust) on
the tail
> fins or not, but Ramjet does.
Armada Skywarp did indeed have the VTOL compnents on his tail
fins. He was, as well, the first of this mold to sport that
conehead / mohawk thingy on his head.