lets try & name the 13 original transformers.
TigerMegatron
alpha trion
vector prime
the fallen
optimus prime in some fiction like the rotf movie
nova prime/nemesis prime
sentinel prime
that's all i've got,anyone else wanna fill in the blanks.
...also known as Thunder
> here's what i've got:
>
> alpha trion
> vector prime
> the fallen
> optimus prime in some fiction like the rotf movie
> nova prime/nemesis prime
> sentinel prime
Prime Nova.
Sentinel Prime.
Rodimus Prime.
Omega Prime.
Prime Rib.
Prime Time.
It's up to somebody to make sense of all that in a fanfic now. :)
t.k.
William Rendfeld
...yeah, this is pointless.
Officially, the First Thirteen have yet to be fully revealed. So far,
only five have confirmed identities - Prima, the Fallen, Vector Prime,
Nexus Prime, and Logos Prime (aka GF Soundblaster). Beyond that, all
we have is speculation. Why bother speculating?
Kil - Michael McCarthy
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> here's what i've got:
>
> alpha trion
Not established as a member of the Thirteen. Wouldn't really make much sense
as one, to me at least.
> vector prime
> the fallen
Yes, these are two of them.
> optimus prime in some fiction like the rotf movie
> nova prime/nemesis prime
> sentinel prime
No. None of these guys are part of the group. At all.
Prima, Logos Pime, and Nexus Prime/Maximus are the other confirmed members.
I, personally, would also count the Leige Maximo.
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/13_original_Transformers
-Kil
Chad Rushing
wrote:
>
> "TigerMegatron" <TigerMegat...@aol.com> wrote in message
> > here's what i've got:
> >
> > alpha trion
>
> Not established as a member of the Thirteen. Wouldn't really make much
> sense as one, to me at least.
Alpha Trion identified himself as one of the first generation of
Transformers created by Vector Sigma in G1's "The Key to Vector Sigma,
Part 2." Of course, the concept of the Thirteen didn't exist back
then, but it sounds like he might qualify.
- Chad
ahsan.sa...@gmail.com
Koi is King! Or Queen, as the case may be.
This is from her Koipedia:
> In order of demerging, the Firstforged were:
> Prima
> Automa
> Maximo
> Convoy
> Myriadon
> Armada
> Valiaro
> Arcuton
> Alaron
> Decipatron
> Panacure
> Studipatron
> The Fallen
Trust me, everybody needs to go and read what she's written.
William Rendfeld
That version's only valid with her fanfiction universe and any others
who use her as a reference tool. It's no more valid than the version
of the original thirteen Transformers I'm using for my storyline. I'm
not saying her stories are bad - they're probably very good, very
interesting reads - but I doubt they have any bearing upon canon.
...but since we're bringing up fan-versions of the First Thirteen, I
may as well list mine and a few details from my "Armada" fiction.
Sentinel Prime (First Matrix-bearer in the T:A-R 'verse, based on his
IDW non-First counterpart)
Vector Prime (Carries the ChronoSaber, based on one of the two canon
original 13 as of 2005)
Iunct Prime (Carried the Omega Lock, very dead)
Methius Prime (Carried the Key of Wisdom [Earth's Cyber Planet Key],
directly inspired the myth of Prometheus)
Accellas Prime (Carries the Key of Velocity [Velocitron's Cyber Planet
Key], femme, runs like the Flash)
Draco Prime (Carries the Key of Power [Animatros/Jungle Planet's Cyber
Planet Key], looks a lot like Cryotek)
Gaeus Prime (Carried the Key of Unity [Gigantion's Cyber Planet Key],
had a big axe)
Zephyra Prime (Had power over air and winds, femme, didn't have feet)
Terratoph Prime (Had power over rock and soil, femme, more blind than
a bat, named after a character from "The Last Airbender")
Nova Prime (Could generate light pulses, based on his IDW non-First
counterpart)
Dalvas Prime (Could manipulate shadows, femme, looked a lot like Logos
Prime/Soundblaster)
Hydraqua Prime (Had power over water and ice, femme, carried a
trident)
Iskaros Prime (Has power over fire, better known as the Fallen)
And I hold my version as canon only within the universe of my
'fiction, and not within the greater canon.
Kil - Michael McCarthy
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Except if he was created as part of the first generation of slave robots the
Quintessons used Vector Sigma to make, then he can't have been created
directly by Primus, as the Thirteen were.
-Kil
Chad Rushing
wrote:
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> Except if he was created as part of the first generation of slave robots the
> Quintessons used Vector Sigma to make, then he can't have been created
> directly by Primus, as the Thirteen were.
Ah, I stand corrected. All of these conflicting origins for the
Transformers are a pain sometime.
- Chad
Gustavo Wombat
And, since many of them are multiversal constants, it leads to the
absurd case where the G1 Cartoon, RID and Animated have a huge
backstory that is of no consequence what-so-ever.
Gustavo!
ahsan.sa...@gmail.com
> That version's only valid with her fanfiction universe and any others
> who use her as a reference tool. It's no more valid than the version
> of the original thirteen Transformers I'm using for my storyline. I'm
> not saying her stories are bad - they're probably very good, very
> interesting reads - but I doubt they have any bearing upon canon.
Wait, was Deathy asking for canon? I'm not sure the names of the
Thirteen exist in canon.
I really love Koi's versions though. It's probably because of the
ridiculous amount of work she seems to have put into it, going as far
as defining languages (Old Autobot, Old Decepticon, Legion-tongue,
etc, etc.)
Grebo
<ahsan.salahud...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Wait, was Deathy asking for canon? I'm not sure the names of the
> Thirteen exist in canon.
Most of them have never been named, indeed. However, IDW's got a
miniseries called "The Thirteen" coming out sometime in the future...
> I really love Koi's versions though. It's probably because of the
> ridiculous amount of work she seems to have put into it, going as far
> as defining languages (Old Autobot, Old Decepticon, Legion-tongue,
> etc, etc.)
Agreed. Her fanfic work is truly impressive in its comprehensiveness.
BTW, according to the TF Wiki, Hasbro says that of the 13 original
Transformers only 7 were Primes. Make of that what you will.
Grebo!
Onslaught Six
> BTW, according to the TF Wiki, Hasbro says that of the 13 original
> Transformers only 7 were Primes. Make of that what you will.
They're backpedaling to fudge in ROTF's mistake.
Kil - Michael McCarthy
> Most of them have never been named, indeed. However, IDW's got a
> miniseries called "The Thirteen" coming out sometime in the future...
Not anymore, they don't
> BTW, according to the TF Wiki, Hasbro says that of the 13 original
> Transformers only 7 were Primes. Make of that what you will.
What I make of that is a hamfisted attempt to explain why ROTF had seven
Primes and not thirteen. Anyway, actual fiction says all thirteen were
Primes, so that trumps Q&A answers.
-Kil