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Well, this was my 2nd Beast Wars episode, and I have to admit the more I
see of this show the more I like it. Already, Inferno has become my
favorite BW character. He seems to be really loony, has an interesting
voice and personality, and something which the G1 show sorely lacked:
an evil psycho laugh. (Tarantulus' laugh is only evil, not really
psycho). I've yet to see him "BURN" anything, and can't wait until I
do.
The plot was quite interesting, though I actually would be surprised if
*none* of the Maximals or Predacons figured out that something was fishy
about that cave blowing itself up. Quickstrike is a lot more
interesting than he was in CotF:2, although to be fair he only had 1
line in that episode.
As for Silverbolt, I just don't see why so many people dislike him. The
fact that he is a Boy Scout only makes his situation more interesting:
we'll no doubt get to see all these awful and demoralizing things,
perpetrated by lunatic Predacons, and how he manages to deal with them.
I always thought Galvatron had a good, evil psycho laugh. Actually, check
out Call of the Primitives, when the Terrorcons form Abominus... he does a
REALLY good psycho laugh right there.
John
Now, I don't have a problem with this, 'cause Tarantulas is my favorite
BW character, but did it seem to anyone else that EVERY commericial fade
this ep was accompanied by Tarant laughing madly?
--
-Liquid Velcro!
(liquid...@hotmail.com) Biology by the sword!
And BWTM Tarantulas is REALLY colorful...Tarantulas Vegas, anyone?
Perhaps because Tarantulas knows us faithful viewers are about to be
helplessly bombarded by shamelessly commercialistic, deceptive and
condescending commercials? That seems rather sinister to _me_.
And while we're on the topic of maniacal laughter--the scene with
Inferno knocking the tower onto Waspinator _was_ funny, but didn't it
strike anybody else out there as being just plain _mean_? I mean, come
on, there was no reason for the Mighty One to do that. He hasn't
demonstrated any real sadism in the past (well, at least on Tarantulas'
scale--just more of a kind of general mania), and Waspinator's desperate
wail immediately before the screen went staticky just kind of made me
feel bad for him. Even when he accomplishes a mission without Maximal
interference, he gets all f***ed up anyway. Poor guy.
--Jordan Beasley--"Sugarbot!!!"
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In article <346FA7...@pomona.edu> jbea...@pomona.edu writes:
>And while we're on the topic of maniacal laughter--the scene with
>Inferno knocking the tower onto Waspinator _was_ funny, but didn't it
>strike anybody else out there as being just plain _mean_?
I thought it was an accident. Inferno's not Barishnikof...
--R.J.
B-)
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On Sun, 16 Nov 1997, Carcharodon wrote:
>
> The plot was quite interesting, though I actually would be surprised if
> *none* of the Maximals or Predacons figured out that something was fishy
> about that cave blowing itself up.
I'm sure the Maximals are keeping that in mind. As for the Predacons,
they think it was Silverbolt since it initially appeared that he had
something to do with the explosion, just ask Rattrap.
> As for Silverbolt, I just don't see why so many people dislike him. The
> fact that he is a Boy Scout only makes his situation more interesting:
> we'll no doubt get to see all these awful and demoralizing things,
> perpetrated by lunatic Predacons, and how he manages to deal with them.
I think I somewhat agree with that. It's highly likely that the writers
blatantly made him that way just for that purpose. I'm sure we'll get to
see some character development in Silverbolt that may prove to be more
interesting than anyone would think he could he. It wouldn't hurt to work
on Airazor, too.
I dunno about that one, Rob. It _looked_ pretty intentional to me--if
you look in the background, you can _see_ Inferno knocking out the
support which held up the tripod tower. And if it _was_ an accident,
why the maniacal laughter? I'd think he'd say something more like "oh
no! I've damaged the tower! The Royalty will be most displeased!"
I know--I'll just ask Bob and Larry!!! Thank goodness for email, huh?
--Jordan Beasley, laughing maniacally as he drops an email on ditillio &
beastbob1...
>> I thought it was an accident. Inferno's not Barishnikof...
>
>I dunno about that one, Rob. It _looked_ pretty intentional to me--if
>you look in the background, you can _see_ Inferno knocking out the
>support which held up the tripod tower.
Inferno is proud of getting the job done, and he gives the tower an
enthusiastic slap. Unfortunately, he misjudges its strength, and down it
goes.
>And if it _was_ an accident, why the maniacal laughter?
Because he thought it was funny? B-)
>I know--I'll just ask Bob and Larry!!! Thank goodness for email, huh?
I wonder if this will be a "we don't know, the animators slipped it in"
product.
Burn burnburn, burn burn burnburnburn!
Burn burnburn, burn burn burnburnburn!
Burn burnburn, burn burn burnburnburn!
Burn burnburn, burn burn burnburnburn!
> This is really turning into an Exquisite Thread Guy, isn't it?
I trust you caught my "Exqusitie Dead Ape" in response to Bob Forward's
Q&A? Rather proud of that odd little poetry...
(Oughtta complete that.)
> (If only John and John could hear...)
Getting off-topic, but I gather that the Johns DO have internet access,
but between not wanting to be mobbed and John L.'s general (some might
say terminal) shyness, they stay very quiet indeed.
(Assuming it hasn't changed, I've actually got former TMBG horn-man Kurt
Hoffman's email address...)
Back onto TFs, I think it may be time for me to re-post my TMBG TF
parodies... "Prime Rodimus Prime", and "Trypticon".
(Okay, "Trypticon" is techincally a Mono Puff parody. But I first heard
"Tryptophan" on TMBG's Dial-A-Song, and it IS John F. who wrote it...)
M "Oh Yeah! And One Jameel Might Like... 'Variation Man', A Parody Of
'Television Man' by the Talking Heads, But Written With The Man Or
Astro-Man? Cover Version In Mind" Sipher
> Liquid Velcro! wrote:
> > Now, I don't have a problem with this, 'cause Tarantulas is my favorite
> > BW character, but did it seem to anyone else that EVERY commericial fade
> > this ep was accompanied by Tarant laughing madly?
>
> Perhaps because Tarantulas knows us faithful viewers are about to be
> helplessly bombarded by shamelessly commercialistic, deceptive and
> condescending commercials? That seems rather sinister to _me_.
Seeing how far Tarantulas' ambition goes, that kind of statement
strikes me as creepily coincidental. ;)
> And while we're on the topic of maniacal laughter--the scene with
> Inferno knocking the tower onto Waspinator _was_ funny, but didn't it
> strike anybody else out there as being just plain _mean_? I mean, come
> on, there was no reason for the Mighty One to do that.
I don't think he meant to hit Waspinator. If you look closely, it
appears Inferno was just flipping out as usual- and loosing his
frustrations on the nearest inanimate object (which, unfortunately,
happened to be the new jamming tower).
> He hasn't
> demonstrated any real sadism in the past (well, at least on Tarantulas'
> scale--just more of a kind of general mania),
Oh, come on- "Pain is my friend- allow me to introduce *you* to
it?" Face it, cats and kittens: Inferno's not well.
> and Waspinator's desperate
> wail immediately before the screen went staticky just kind of made me
> feel bad for him. Even when he accomplishes a mission without Maximal
> interference, he gets all f***ed up anyway. Poor guy.
Waspinator's big problem is that he's *too* well meaning. He
unfortunately doesn't seem to understand that he's trying to impress a
commander who isn't very big on rewarding his troops. (However, Megs has
style... Does anyone else get a kick out of his new "jacuzzi style" CR-
pit lounging?)
Tengu:<>
> Burn burnburn, burn burn burnburnburn!
> Burn burnburn, burn burn burnburnburn!
> Burn burnburn, burn burn burnburnburn!
> Burn burnburn, burn burn burnburnburn!
Traitor, you're no match for me!
Burn, traitor, burn!
Ha ha ha!
We really could do the whole song....
> > This is really turning into an Exquisite Thread Guy, isn't it?
> I trust you caught my "Exqusitie Dead Ape" in response to Bob Forward's
> Q&A? Rather proud of that odd little poetry...
Isn't that what inspired this?
[snip]
> Back onto TFs, I think it may be time for me to re-post my TMBG TF
> parodies... "Prime Rodimus Prime", and "Trypticon".
> (Okay, "Trypticon" is techincally a Mono Puff parody. But I first heard
> "Tryptophan" on TMBG's Dial-A-Song, and it IS John F. who wrote it...)
Good enough.
> M "Oh Yeah! And One Jameel Might Like... 'Variation Man', A Parody Of
> 'Television Man' by the Talking Heads, But Written With The Man Or
> Astro-Man? Cover Version In Mind" Sipher
The MoA-M? version was a cover? I did not know that. Post, dude, post!
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"Fool! Pain is my friend! Allow me to introduce _you_ to it!"
"You're no for match me! Burn, traitor, burn!" --mighty Inferno
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Yep. Caused me to write "Exquisite Mint Prime" in response to something
or other, which caused TV's Francis to write about me writing about
whatever it was, which caused Jameel to write about TVF writing about me
writing about whather it was. Which, I assume, caused Jameel to add the
gratuitous "EDG" parody about Inferno.
I liked "Exquisite Dead Ape", BTW.
> (Oughtta complete that.)
By all means.
> Getting off-topic, but I gather that the Johns DO have internet access,
> but between not wanting to be mobbed and John L.'s general (some might
> say terminal) shyness, they stay very quiet indeed.
That seems to be it, yeah. But, seriously - do you REALLY think they
lurk on ATT? :)
> Back onto TFs, I think it may be time for me to re-post my TMBG TF
> parodies... "Prime Rodimus Prime", and "Trypticon".
Actually, I get the urge to WRITE "Hall of Headmasters" now...
> (Okay, "Trypticon" is techincally a Mono Puff parody. But I first heard
> "Tryptophan" on TMBG's Dial-A-Song, and it IS John F. who wrote it...)
Dammit, I still haven't heard any Puff Stuff (tm) besides the
Unsupervised album itself...
--
-Liquid Velcro!
(liquid...@hotmail.com) Biology by the sword!
"Autobots - transform, and roll out that special head!"
I DON'T KNOW where you got this notion, but it's not quite accurate. We did
ask to keep Waspinator around, but not just so we could blow him apart every
episode. Rather, it is you TF fans who were responsible. Posts indicated to us
that Waspinator, for all his goofiness, was a big favorite of the show's
fans.
I would have been happy to have him Transmettaled along with the others though.
I think a more powerful Waspy would be even funnier. And I have been trying
to let Waspinator get in some licks of his own this season as (I HOPE) you'll
see in later episodes and steer clear of the "Blow waspy up"syndrome.
BTW - No one's pointed it out so far, but have you noticed Megatron has taking
to praising Waspinator for his work lately.
Let's face it, With Scorponok gone, Waspy is one of the few Preds Meggs knows
he can trust. (Besides Inferno, but come on Inferno is berserk!)...
In short, we didn't have the agenda the post suggests...
The real fights we had with Hasbro were over the Resurrection of Optimus Primal
and the "quick-start" of the Transmetals and Fuzors. I would have preferred
to build to the new characters more slowly and to either leave Optimus dead or
not bring him back until late in the season.
Of course we lost those fights. The only concession we managed to pry out of
Hasbro was to delay Optimus's return until the third episode. They wanted him
back in "Aftermath"...
Sheesh...
Larry DiTillio
Story Editor - Beast Wars
> M "Hall Of Headmasters" Sipher wrote:
> > Liquid Velcro! wrote:
> > > This is really turning into an Exquisite Thread Guy, isn't it?
> >
> > I trust you caught my "Exqusitie Dead Ape" in response to Bob Forward's
> > Q&A? Rather proud of that odd little poetry...
>
> Yep. Caused me to write "Exquisite Mint Prime"
(Snerk!)
> in response to something
> or other, which caused TV's Francis to write about me writing about
> whatever it was, which caused Jameel to write about TVF writing about me
> writing about whather it was. Which, I assume, caused Jameel to add the
> gratuitous "EDG" parody about Inferno.
Oh. That makes it all so clear now!
(If somebody doesn't realize I'm being harmlessly silly in the above
statement, somebody don' know me too well, do he?)
> I liked "Exquisite Dead Ape", BTW.
Danky.
> > Getting off-topic, but I gather that the Johns DO have internet access,
> > but between not wanting to be mobbed and John L.'s general (some might
> > say terminal) shyness, they stay very quiet indeed.
>
> That seems to be it, yeah. But, seriously - do you REALLY think they
> lurk on ATT? :)
Of course not. But I figured it'd just be good to keep the group alerted
to little details about TMBG, a Band That Changes The Course Of Human
History.
(Cue sting music!)
> > Back onto TFs, I think it may be time for me to re-post my TMBG TF
> > parodies... "Prime Rodimus Prime", and "Trypticon".
>
> Actually, I get the urge to WRITE "Hall of Headmasters" now...
Somebody wrote a very good parody of "Subliminal" (one of my favorites,
and the only song I can play on my accordion... yes, I DO own an
accordion) called "The Maximals"... who WAS that, and would you PLEASE
re-post it?
(Back when I was on the TMBG group I had written a "Subliminal" parody
called "I Analyzed", a tongue-in-cheek look at some folks' penchent for
going WAAAY overboard in deciphering TMBG lyrics. Coupla people din't
take too fondly to it.)
(Well, slag them.)
> > (Okay, "Trypticon" is techincally a Mono Puff parody. But I first heard
> > "Tryptophan" on TMBG's Dial-A-Song, and it IS John F. who wrote it...)
>
> Dammit, I still haven't heard any Puff Stuff (tm) besides the
> Unsupervised album itself...
There's not much commercially available... just the EP "Devil Went Down
To Newport", which contains "Tryptophan" and a VERY good cover of a VERY
good Frank Black song called "Oddball". I've got two post-album MP discs
from the (sadly) now-gone HELLO club, and they rock. Plus a 7-inch
"Devil" single.
> "Autobots - transform, and roll out that special head!"
"Roll out that special head" is just a great line.
M "Here's Hoping You Don't Become A Robot, CLANG CLANG Whoops Too Late!"
Sipher
> > > This is really turning into an Exquisite Thread Guy, isn't it?
>
> > I trust you caught my "Exqusitie Dead Ape" in response to Bob Forward's
> > Q&A? Rather proud of that odd little poetry...
>
> Isn't that what inspired this?
"My purpose is to cause strife and conbtroversy for no good reason"
- Dave Barry
> > M "Oh Yeah! And One Jameel Might Like... 'Variation Man', A Parody Of
> > 'Television Man' by the Talking Heads, But Written With The Man Or
> > Astro-Man? Cover Version In Mind" Sipher
>
> The MoA-M? version was a cover? I did not know that.
Always read your linear notes, especially for wacky funster groups like
MoA-M?.
> Post, dude, post!
I shall.
(That cover DOES kick astro, don't it?)
**********
VARIATION MAN
a parody of Man or Astro-Man?'s cover of The Talking Heads' song
"Television Man", written by M "Reverb 1000" Sipher
And I'm walking into Target for the ninth time
And I'm talking to Wal-Mart on the phone line
I know this version's real
This one's plastic instead of steel
And the word crashes in to the newsgroup
Variations made me what I am
People like to hunt those variations down
The search it never ends
I'm a Variation Man
And I heard some guy say the Minispies were five
And I - But it's allright I knew that this was wrong
The only four there be
Is Posrche and Mazda, Jeep and Dune Buggy
When the word crashes in to the newsgroup
Variation Man is who I am
People like to hunt those variations down
The search it never ends
I'm a Variation Man
Take a look at my Transformer collection
From Overlord to the tiny Micros
Doesn't matter what you pay
Can't take them away
(NOTE: at this point, the song breaks into static. I'm thinking that the
classic transformation sound would go great here, repeating slowly at
first, then in more rapid succession as the bridge continues...)
The word crashes in to the newsgroup
The word crashes in to the newsgroup
The search it never ends - Variation Man
I'm getting everything - Variation Man
Variation Man - Variation Man
Getting everything - Variation Man
The search it never ends - The Powerdasher car
Variation Man - Brazilian Bumblebee
Getting everything - And I gotta say
My search will never end
Variation Man
**********
M "Taser Guns Mean Big Fun" Sipher
Completely understandable. A life without TMBG is no life at all, and
may be
susceptible to being seized under the Oregon Penal Code.
> Somebody wrote a very good parody of "Subliminal" (one of my favorites,
> and the only song I can play on my accordion... yes, I DO own an
> accordion) called "The Maximals"... who WAS that, and would you PLEASE
> re-post it?
Cool. I second the call for that.
> (Back when I was on the TMBG group I had written a "Subliminal" parody
> called "I Analyzed", a tongue-in-cheek look at some folks' penchent for
> going WAAAY overboard in deciphering TMBG lyrics. Coupla people din't
> take too fondly to it.)
Geez, I can't imagine that. a.m.tmbg has always seemed like such an
open-
minded, good-humored group. That hates Flans and anything post-Pink
Album.
(LV was a a.m.tmbg lurker for a looooong time...)
> (Well, slag them.)
I second this, too.
> There's not much commercially available... just the EP "Devil Went Down
> To Newport", which contains "Tryptophan" and a VERY good cover of a VERY
> good Frank Black song called "Oddball". I've got two post-album MP discs
> from the (sadly) now-gone HELLO club, and they rock. Plus a 7-inch
> "Devil" single.
I know. I quest for the EP endlessly. It's a shame, isn't it?
> "Roll out that special head" is just a great line.
So is the segment in "Until My Head Falls Off" about "Clearing my
throat...
bathroom sink". I love that. It's sheer, unadulterated brilliance.
M "Here's Hoping You Don't Become A Robot, CLANG CLANG Whoops Too Late!"
Sipher
RESPONSE: While we're talking post-modern music, it should be KLING
KLANG, the label tat Kraftwerk, a band that often sings about robotics,
is on.
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>Completely understandable. A life without TMBG is no life at all, and
>may be
>susceptible to being seized under the Oregon Penal Code.
<Runamuck> Heh heh....he said "penal." Heh heh heh.
<Runabout> Heh heh heh.....cool.
--David
> M "And that band is They Might Be Giants" Sipher wrote:
> > Of course not. But I figured it'd just be good to keep the group alerted
> > to little details about TMBG, a Band That Changes The Course Of Human
> > History.
>
> Completely understandable. A life without TMBG is no life at all, and
> may be
> susceptible to being seized under the Oregon Penal Code.
(Snerk!)
> > Somebody wrote a very good parody of "Subliminal" (one of my favorites,
> > and the only song I can play on my accordion... yes, I DO own an
> > accordion) called "The Maximals"... who WAS that, and would you PLEASE
> > re-post it?
>
> Cool. I second the call for that.
From the e-mail bin, from Suzanne Ferree...
> |sf>Playground Psychotic wrote it & it's on my WWW page (Doesn't *anyone*
> pay any attention to the Fanfic List anymore? *sigh*)
I THOUGHT it was someone we don't see 'round here too often.
(And I'd just like to apologize for not referencing the Fanfic List. I
am a fool.)
> > (Back when I was on the TMBG group I had written a "Subliminal" parody
> > called "I Analyzed", a tongue-in-cheek look at some folks' penchent for
> > going WAAAY overboard in deciphering TMBG lyrics. Coupla people din't
> > take too fondly to it.)
>
> Geez, I can't imagine that. a.m.tmbg has always seemed like such an
> open-
> minded, good-humored group. That hates Flans and anything post-Pink
> Album.
Didjya catch the giant bruhaha over whether the first album should be
called "The Pink Album" or "The Big Blue Dog Album"? SAD. Um, folks?
Little secret. The album is called THEY MIGHT BE GIANTS.
(Besides, it's a godsdamn personal opinion over what knickname you call
it. To tie it into TFs, it's like the subspace theory/quantum physics
whatever theory... a mere personal opinion, and anybody acting like
theirs is the end-all %100 final word in the matter needs to be slapped
repeatedly with a frozen trout.)
> (LV was a a.m.tmbg lurker for a looooong time...)
I took to lurking after a while, then to not reading, then to simply
removing it from my newsgroups...
> > "Roll out that special head" is just a great line.
>
> So is the segment in "Until My Head Falls Off" about "Clearing my
> throat...
> bathroom sink". I love that. It's sheer, unadulterated brilliance.
THAT is classic TMBG wordplay.
M "Maybe If I Do TFTMMST Again For BC'98, The 'Till My Head Falls Off'
Reference Will Get A Laugh" Sipher
I'll third the call for that.
(And I own an accordion as well.)