BW: What would you say?...(SPOILERS)
AMiller935
This might be interpreted as spoiler material (but probably not)...
Since we all seem to agree (or suspect) that BW Megatron plans to try and
influence the future somehow by interfering with the dormant Autobots and
Decepticons aboard the ark, let's assume he'll do just that. What would you say
if Megatron succeeded, thereby totally altering the history of what we know as
G1?
If you're inclined to argue that this can't happen, then quit watching BW
because there's no suspense in it for you! Myself, I am not thrilled by the
prospect of some tidy victory by the Maximals in which the Ark is left
undisturbed, just as it was at the beginning of MTMTE.Only the possibility,
however slight, that Megatron might succeed makes this the least bit
interesting.
Given the character of the TF universe that so many different continuities
exist at once, I don't think it's out of the question. So now our attention
turns to, what might happen?
Might the old G1 TFs be revived in the past instead of in 1984, and given Beast
Modes? We've seen that Japanese prototype...what if that lion is Optimus PRIME,
and the alleged dragon Galvatron is the original Megatron, convinced by BW
Megatron that Galvatron is his rightful name? (That's be a good matchup, no?)
How would you react if the BW cartoon just totally obliterated G1 as we know it
in a few more episodes? Would that upset you, or would it not be any different
than the disjointed cartoon/comic continuities?
Well, I predict that the BW crew will wimp out and not tamper with G1 all that
much...but let's talk about what might happen if they DID!
Oh, and before it comes up, Starscream's appearance does not preclude
Megatron's changing the future anymore than any other remnants of the timeline
the Maximals started out in does. Think of Starscream as starting out as the
same point as they did, adn travelling on the Axalon, and' you'll see what I
mean.
-Alex
HackGar1
>This might be interpreted as spoiler material (but probably not)..
>Since we all seem to agree (or suspect) that BW Megatron plans to try and
>influence the future somehow by interfering with the dormant Autobots and
>Decepticons aboard the ark, let's assume he'll do just that. What would you
>say
>if Megatron succeeded, thereby totally altering the history of what we know
>as
>G1?
Yeah, I've been pondering that one in my head as well. BW Megatron's basic
plan, I think, is to get rid of the Autobots on the shuttle, steal the dormant
Matrix, and conquer the Decepticons. Would this set up some kind of "Age of
Apocalypse" type story? Perhaps....
In my own little way, I would believe that Machine Wars would be the alternate
universe. Would it also accept the fact that Starscream is more powerful than
Megatron in the line? Another question....
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> Yeah, I've been pondering that one in my head as well. BW Megatron's
basic
> plan, I think, is to get rid of the Autobots on the shuttle, steal the
dormant
> Matrix, and conquer the Decepticons. Would this set up some kind of "Age
of
> Apocalypse" type story? Perhaps....
> In my own little way, I would believe that Machine Wars would be the
alternate
> universe. Would it also accept the fact that Starscream is more powerful
than
> Megatron in the line? Another question....
Zat! Would create a paradox in which Decepticons and Autobots never existed
to return power and fuel to the fledling Cybertron drifting hopelessly
without energy in deep space. I know many people could argue that they
could have sent others to find energy but its just a theory. Heck, you
aren't supposed to be able to figure out a paradox! The age old tampering
with time question: What if you went back in time and killed your parents
before you were born? If so, your parents would have never existed to
create you, thus, you would never have existed to go back in time to kill
your parents in the first place so would they be alive? If so, then you
should still be born to go back in time and kill them so that you were not
born thus, could not, but could still...you get the picture.
Well, I suppose, BW Megs go go back to Cybertron etc. As long as in the
long scope of things he didn't do things that grossly affects what
*originally* happened in the Beast Wars timeline. Other timelines would be
changed but if BW Begs wasn't affected then it wouldn't matter. If he had
somehow unknowingly killed those that built him, he would have in a sense
killed himself, not to do it again...OH NO! I'm spinning into that stupid
paradox thingy again...
Thomas R Stanford
On 3 Feb 1998, AMiller935 wrote:
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What if the storyline as we know it was ALREADY due in part to BW
Megatron meddling around with the dormant TF's? Really. That would be a
good explanation in order to end the confusion, i think. Maybe if he
revives a few of them, they will still have their Cybertronian vehicle
forms. That would be interesting. Only question is...is that if this
were the story behind the story, somehow the revived ones would have to
somehow end up back in the Ark, and deactivated, no less. Hmmmmmmmm.
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Thomas R Stanford wrote:
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> > if Megatron succeeded, thereby totally altering the history of what we know as
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Maybe if the show follows some of the comic story line, Shockwave could
make an appearance in the show as well. :)
That would be the greatest IMO. Some big conflict could emerge, and
Shockwave's defeat would wind him up being imprisoned in rock again/for
the first time.
Dalmatian
Gluesey Z
Jeremy: I agree. i think all time travelling movies are a bunch of crap,
except for the few that are in a fixed space-time-contimuum, like 12 Monkeys,
if any have seen that movie, where people who go in the past are just
fulfilling what already happened before they time travelled or whatever. With
that setup, there are no paradoxes or somwthing. But what i really posted for
was to say that there is no way that BW megs is trying to kill the G1 bots.
That's like the most stupid thing i've ever heard!! Not only is it too hokey
for BW, but he is much too occupied with the aliens right now.
Gluesey Z
Blurr
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> revives a few of them, they will still have their Cybertronian vehicle
> forms. That would be interesting. Only question is...is that if this
> were the story behind the story, somehow the revived ones would have to
Well, they could be the insecticons.The Insecticons were said to have jetisoned
from the Ark, and took on Beast forms, not being able to find any mechanical life,
geee..... maybe this could be used in against one of those BW sucks people %^)
Anthony
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Thomas R Stanford wrote in message ...
>On 3 Feb 1998, AMiller935 wrote:
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>Megatron meddling around with the dormant TF's? Really. That would be a
>good explanation in order to end the confusion, i think. Maybe if he
>revives a few of them, they will still have their Cybertronian vehicle
>forms. That would be interesting. Only question is...is that if this
>were the story behind the story, somehow the revived ones would have to
>somehow end up back in the Ark, and deactivated, no less. Hmmmmmmmm.
The Maximals and Autobots would surely see to that. Now, keeping the Ark
where it is and BW Megs away from it for the remainder of the Beast Wars is
the catch..
But, I have absolute confidence that Bob and Larry will come up with
something great. Er, have come up with something great. Well, for a season
finale, it will be great. No doubt. They wouldn't end the season on a "Low
Road."
ADY, who is still sick that he has to have BW tapes mailed to him. :/
TimberWarp
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> geee..... maybe this could be used in against one of those BW sucks people %^)
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> Anthony
And don't forget SkyFighter, he never appeared on G1 until the later episodes so they
could sneak him in the plot too they wanted to. Because when he first appeared he
crashed landed on earth with out him knowing of it and was deactiviated. So BW Megs
could activate him and get off the planet if he wanted to. "I guess we have to wait
and see. "
TimberWarp
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That would destroy the time-space continuum! We cannot allow it!
For more info on time travel talk to Doc Brown.
Quickstrk7
>Date: Tue, Feb 3, 1998 18:37 EST
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>> revives a few of them, they will still have their Cybertronian vehicle
>> forms. That would be interesting. Only question is...is that if this
>> were the story behind the story, somehow the revived ones would have to
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>geee..... maybe this could be used in against one of those BW sucks people
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i HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION if BWmegs did destroy the dorment G1 transformers what
would become of cybertron if he had the matrix then what would protect
Cybertron from Unicron and if unicron did Destroy Cyberton then shouldn't all
the BW transformers cease to exist?
HackGar1
>Maybe if the show follows some of the comic story line, Shockwave could
>make an appearance in the show as well. :)
>That would be the greatest IMO. Some big conflict could emerge, and
>Shockwave's defeat would wind him up being imprisoned in rock again/for
>the first time.
Would that mean that the Savage Land would exist in the continuity too?
Oh, and for the whole "time paradox" thing, it's true that it really can't be
predicted. That's why Dinobot thinks Megs will destroy Max, Pred, and "all who
came before". Basically, becuase Megatron really doesn't know what the hell
he's doing!! Even his genious can't predict what might be if he did steal the
dormant Matrix. He could make things worse for his ancestors if they had the
Matrix (remember what happened to Scourge when he had the Matrix?).
Shatter-Tite
>i HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION if BWmegs did destroy the dorment G1 transformers
what
>would become of cybertron if he had the matrix then what would protect
>Cybertron from Unicron and if unicron did Destroy Cyberton then shouldn't
all
>the BW transformers cease to exist?
I would think that BW Megs could cause some cataclysmical events in the
timeline. On the other hand I don't think he and the other Earth ridden
Beast Warriors would be affected by any alterations they created, they would
probably be protected because they would currently be existing before the
altered time. Although some of the events they remembered would never come
to pass, they would still remember the events.
Unlike Back to the Future when Marty looks at the picture of his family
fading away (well wouldn't his memory of them fade away aswell, wouldn't he
fade away?) [don't worry i'm aware it's only a movie]
later,
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Quickstrk7 wrote:
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> would become of cybertron if he had the matrix then what would protect
> Cybertron from Unicron and if unicron did Destroy Cyberton then shouldn't all
> the BW transformers cease to exist?
Maybe he thinks that he can do it. He does have a rather high opinion
of himself.
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> Quickstrk7 wrote:
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> > would become of cybertron if he had the matrix then what would protect
> > Cybertron from Unicron and if unicron did Destroy Cyberton then shouldn't all
> > the BW transformers cease to exist?
Hmm... If BW Megatron destroys the g1 transformers, then the BWs would
cease to exist. If the BWs then don't exist, then there is no BW Megs to
destroy the g1 transformers, so then th g1s happen the original way, and
the BWs do go on to exist, leaving BW Megs to destroy the g1s again...
I guess that's why there will never be an episode where BW Megatron
destroys the g1 transfomers.
HackGar1
>Hmm... If BW Megatron destroys the g1 transformers, then the BWs would
>cease to exist. If the BWs then don't exist, then there is no BW Megs to
>destroy the g1 transformers, so then th g1s happen the original way, and
>the BWs do go on to exist, leaving BW Megs to destroy the g1s again...
>I guess that's why there will never be an episode where BW Megatron
>destroys the g1 transfomers.
He probably doesn't want to destroy the G1s, just steal the Autobot Matrix. He
probably realizes if he destroys his ancestors, he'll cease to exist
Darzonique
Ugh, I hate temporal Mechanics.
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Spoiler Space
Ok, most likely if they're going to address this, its going to probably create
some alternate timeline, not a paradox. Paradox is too messy. Either time
won't change, and only the insecticons and the like will be encountered, or
time will, and a new, alternate future will arise where the changes have taken
place.
Either way, could be interesting.
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> >Megatron meddling around with the dormant TF's? Really. That would be
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> >good explanation in order to end the confusion, i think. Maybe if he
> >revives a few of them, they will still have their Cybertronian vehicle
> >forms. That would be interesting. Only question is...is that if this
> >were the story behind the story, somehow the revived ones would have to
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> The Maximals and Autobots would surely see to that. Now, keeping the Ark
> where it is and BW Megs away from it for the remainder of the Beast Wars
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> But, I have absolute confidence that Bob and Larry will come up with
> something great. Er, have come up with something great. Well, for a
season
> finale, it will be great. No doubt. They wouldn't end the season on a
"Low
> Road."
My thoughts? I'm guessing that BW takes place too early for Megs to get to
the Ark. And how could he have counted on that time warp thing? Was that
ever mentioned or implied that he expected that to happen? If the Earth got
burnt to a cinder like it did, I think that might be a problem for the Ark.
Just another reason to think that they are much earlier than 4 million
years in the past. Nonetheless, the Ark is definitely a tourist attraction,
so to speak. But I don't see how they could use the Ark without really
screwing up the "More Than Meets the Eye" plot and the rest of everything..
The importance of the disks might be that they can lead them to the Ark. So
it could be leading up to some plot where the Maximals have to stop the
Preds from activating Telatran-1 or reviving the other TFs, and naturally
the Maximals win in some particular way so that no one can reach the Ark
for a very, very long time.
Prowlhound
Heres my 2 cents. What if the eruption that originally stirred the G1 tfs was
caused by Bw megs. Possible? or garbage.? Anyway, we dont get Bw in the UK yet,
but the possibility of gen1/bw storyline intergration seems great.>Would that
Ginsana!
One thing that I think people are forgetting is that Bob and Larry
_have_ carte blanche to screw up established G1 continuity, as Has/Ken
seems far more interested in introducing new toys into the show than
keeping the canon nice and tidy (as opposed to, for instance,
Lucasfilm). I think it would be extremely gutsy and innovative on their
part if they allowed Megatron to at least partially succeed in altering
the past, thus altering the entire G1 storyline we've seen thus far AND
CLEARING THE WAY FOR A NEW SERIES OF STORIES ABOUT MACHINE-BASED
TRANSFORMERS. I think some of you guys are so wrapped up in G1
nostalgia that you're ignoring the potential boon staring you right in
the face, which is that even a small alteration of the G1 past could
invalidate all the old (and, sadly, generally not so good) G1 cartoons.
This would leave an opening for Has/Ken to create a machine-based
Transformers TV show which _supplants_ G1, continuity-wise. Let's say
that Megatron's tampering causes the Transformers to remain dormant for
an extra 13 years. Instead of awakening in 1985, they awaken in
_1998_...which means that they'd have updated vehicle forms, which means
a whole new set of toys. Think about this seriously. Now, I'm actually
kind of hoping that Bob and Larry _do_ have Megatron or some of the
other Beast Warriors alter the past...
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Blurr
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> > caused by Bw megs. Possible? or garbage.? Anyway, we dont get Bw in the UK yet,
> > but the possibility of gen1/bw storyline intergration seems great.>Would that
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> present. Someone would have noticed. ;-)
no, because the G1 TF's left Cybertron 4 million years ago.If the BW's were thrown
into the past like it appears, then they may be on Earth BEFORE the Ark arrives.
There have been rumors of the Ark Crashing in the last episodes of this season.
So ProwlHound's thoery does hold up. Remember, the G1's were left dormant in the
Ark for 4 million years.
Anthony
DiTillio
>BTW- really, no BW in the UK?
>Yeesh, we've even got it here in NZ, and we're usually the one of the
>last countries to get anything. (Books, TV, games, you name it.)
You guys got LUCY LAWLESS! What more do you need?
Larry DiTillio
Story Editor - Beast Wars
Rajan Ragupathy
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> caused by Bw megs. Possible? or garbage.? Anyway, we dont get Bw in the UK yet,
> but the possibility of gen1/bw storyline intergration seems great.>Would that
> mean that the Savage Land would exist in the continuity too?
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Er, didn't that eruption take place in our time?
That would have to mean that the BW TFs would have to around in the
present. Someone would have noticed. ;-)
BTW- really, no BW in the UK?
Yeesh, we've even got it here in NZ, and we're usually the one of the
last countries to get anything. (Books, TV, games, you name it.)
Best, Raptor
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Rajan Ragupathy
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> > > Heres my 2 cents. What if the eruption that originally stirred the G1 tfs was
> > > caused by Bw megs. Possible? or garbage.? Anyway, we dont get Bw in the UK yet,
> > > but the possibility of gen1/bw storyline intergration seems great.>Would that
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> > That would have to mean that the BW TFs would have to around in the
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> into the past like it appears, then they may be on Earth BEFORE the Ark arrives.
> There have been rumors of the Ark Crashing in the last episodes of this season.
> So ProwlHound's thoery does hold up. Remember, the G1's were left dormant in the
> Ark for 4 million years.
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> Anthony
I was referring to the volcano eruption that woke the G1 transformers
up in both the comic and the cartoon, which happens sometime in the 80s.
I assume that what he meant by "the eruption originally stirred the
G1 tfs."
Best, Raptor
Rajan Ragupathy
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> >Yeesh, we've even got it here in NZ, and we're usually the one of the
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> Larry DiTillio
> Story Editor - Beast Wars
Hey, believe it or not, I cringe when someone mentions the words
"New Zealand" and "Hercules"/"Xena" in the same sentance. ;-)
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Here's a new idea. What if the BW wake up the G1 TF's, but when
Teletran-1 tries to search for vehicle forms, and can't find any, so the G1'ers
are forced to keep their Cybertroning vehicle forms! Cool huh?
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> what he said...
That's awesome! I love the idea. But one thing I think might be constant.
They woke up when Mt. St. Helens (whoops!) erupted in 1985, and I don't
think that could be changed. Unless! Megatron somehow reprograms the Ark to
wait a several years before it reactivates the Transformers. Cybertron
doesn't have enough energon to defend itself from Unicron... This is
brilliant. Now how to get Hasbro/Kenner to fund it...
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The Nixtr <Remove X to reply>
QUOTING:
I think it would be extremely gutsy and innovative on their
part if they allowed Megatron to at least partially succeed in altering
the past, thus altering the entire G1 storyline we've seen thus far AND
CLEARING THE WAY FOR A NEW SERIES OF STORIES ABOUT MACHINE-BASED
TRANSFORMERS.
RESPONSE: But that would not actually explain how hte continuity got
lost. Instead the past-altering would explain one non-continuity at the
expense of another.
War Dawn demonstrates that the TF continuity follows the Law of
Conservation of Events (it is further exemplified in FOREVER IS A LONG
TIME COMING, where events go out of whack to accomodate for this law).
Altering the past would break down that law, and be inconsistant with
the G1 mythos.
The Nixtr <Remove X to reply>
QUOTING:
Heres my 2 cents. What if the eruption that originally stirred the G1
tfs was
caused by Bw megs. Possible? or garbage.? Anyway, we dont get Bw in the
UK yet,
but the possibility of gen1/bw storyline intergration seems
great.>Would that
mean that the Savage Land would exist in the continuity too?
RESPONSE: This would be ultra-cool, and a lot better than the idea of
Megatron altering the past to invalidate all that happened in G1.
The Nixtr <Remove X to reply>
QUOTING:
Er, didn't that eruption take place in our time?
That would have to mean that the BW TFs would have to around in the
present. Someone would have noticed. ;-)
RESPONSE: Megatron coulda time Traveled!!! I thought that was the whole
point. Time travel without messing up the G1 series.
ZAPGUN
ALaN12084 wrote:
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> Here's a new idea. What if the BW wake up the G1 TF's, but when
> Teletran-1 tries to search for vehicle forms, and can't find any, so > the G1'ers
> are forced to keep their Cybertroning vehicle forms! Cool huh?
Nope. They would probably be mechanical animals (remember the Dinobots
in the comics?).
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"Waspinator" <ayo...@bscn.com> writes:
>Thomas R Stanford wrote in message ...
>>On 3 Feb 1998, AMiller935 wrote:
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>> What if the storyline as we know it was ALREADY due in part to BW
>>Megatron meddling around with the dormant TF's? Really. That would be a
>>good explanation in order to end the confusion, i think. Maybe if he
>>revives a few of them, they will still have their Cybertronian vehicle
>>forms. That would be interesting. Only question is...is that if this
>>were the story behind the story, somehow the revived ones would have to
>>somehow end up back in the Ark, and deactivated, no less. Hmmmmmmmm.
>The Maximals and Autobots would surely see to that. Now, keeping the Ark
>where it is and BW Megs away from it for the remainder of the Beast Wars is
>the catch..
>But, I have absolute confidence that Bob and Larry will come up with
>something great. Er, have come up with something great. Well, for a season
>finale, it will be great. No doubt. They wouldn't end the season on a "Low
>Road."
>ADY, who is still sick that he has to have BW tapes mailed to him. :/
OOOOOOOOOHHHHH......'member the LioConvoy toy? What if the
G1'ers are woken up, and the *real* Optimus gets beastie-ized :)
Prowl, Ironhide and (ooh, silverbolt was created during the g1
series) Hm....well, I was gonna say Magnaboss could be created,
but, um....
:) cheers :)
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(snip everything in previous post)
I honestly think that it is quite impossible that BW Megatron's meddling
results in the events in G1. First, MTMTE had it explained well enough.
Since the G1s were in serious need of repair, he might need to activate
Teletran-1, which might be hard to do, since the Ark has no power. Somehow
I don't think that one's going to stop the writers. If that is, they plan
to do what we all hope they do.
I think the three valid theories are 1) Alter history and nullify the
current G1 history, 2) We get to see the Ark, but the Maximals manage to
preserve history or 3) They're too early to encounter the Ark. Seeing how
number 1 is pretty controversial in nature and number 2 is pretty
improbable (even in a cartoon), lets hear some theories for number 3. What
then is Megatron after if he isn't after the Ark?
BluePard
Jeremy Ng wrote:
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> > Yeah, I've been pondering that one in my head as well. BW Megatron's
> basic
> > plan, I think, is to get rid of the Autobots on the shuttle, steal the
> dormant
> > Matrix, and conquer the Decepticons.
Well, my G1 knowledge is VERY limited, so correct me if I'm wrong... but
the Decepticons are really big jet guys, so wouldn't they just step on
BW Megs if he tried to conquer them? Actually, they're probably not that
much bigger-- at least not the ones on the Ark --but he'd have to trap
them somehow before awakening, or he'd be in deep trouble. He could use
the Matrix's power, I suppose, but wouldn't that rewrite his programming
like it did to Starscream? [I think]
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In article <34E394D4...@buffnet.net>, BluePard <blue...@buffnet.net>
writes:
>Well, my G1 knowledge is VERY limited, so correct me if I'm wrong... but the
>Decepticons are really big jet guys, so wouldn't they just step on BW Megs if
>he tried to conquer them?
Uh, unless the story editors are using the comic-book's scale. That means your
average TFs are as big as buildings. If they're using the cartoon's scale,
then TFs are about as tall as Zentraedi (50 feet).
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Shatter-Tite
I didn't get the original message you replied to.
Are you talking about a Beast Wars/G1 crossover movie? That'd ROCK!! They'd
have to use Jurassic Park/ILM technology, real animals and,...cool we'd get
to see the Autobot's and Decepticon's Cybertronian modes. Um,..I think the
budget would get a little out of control. But anythings possible. For
Director's I've heard suggestions such as Spielberg, James Cameron and of
course Lucas. I'd like to know what Larry and Bob would think of this.
later,
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>> what he said...
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>That's awesome! I love the idea. But one thing I think might be constant.
>They woke up when Mt. St. Helens (whoops!) erupted in 1985, and I don't
>think that could be changed. Unless! Megatron somehow reprograms the Ark to
>wait a several years before it reactivates the Transformers. Cybertron
>doesn't have enough energon to defend itself from Unicron... This is
>brilliant. Now how to get Hasbro/Kenner to fund it...
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