SIZES
Edmund Whitmore
Hello once again. (Before anyone asks, the novel is going smoothly) I
just feel like starting a new thread. In the cartoons, every TF was
ROUGHLY the same size, correct? We'll conveniantly forget the tapes and
the mini-bots. So what I'm asking is this:
What was with the toys?
Like so many others, I had a zillion TF figures when I was younger. (All
gone now. Dammit!!!) And no two were the same size! Examples:
1.Pretender Bumblebee (robot) is pretty small, right? But why is
Pretender Jazz the same size?
2.How big WAS Ultra Magnus??? He was bigger than any other
figure I had! The only way I could use him in a decent fighting scene
was to either use Voltron or pretend I was a gestalt! (Don't lie and say
you've never done that!)
3.Gestalts are supposed to be big, right? What about the
Seacons? Each one was about an inch tall! The gestalt (Piranicon?)
wasn't even as tall as the Pretender Bumblebee shell! (That's why I am
now afraid to purchase gestalts, for fear that my Batman figure could
whup it)
4.Was every Op Prime a different size? I never had the original,
but I had Powermaster (Ul Mags's size), Combat Hero (Nice, normal size),
and Laser (Ridiculously big. Ain't no Megatron figure in the world
that's gonna mess with him!)
Was there ever a set size for TF's? I mean, a sort of "most-TF's-are-
about-this-size-unless-it's-a-gestalt-or-just-hideously-overgrown" size?
The very few TF's I now have (all purchased in one way or another due to
the fine people of this newsgroup) are roughly 5 to 5 and 1/2 inches, so
that is the measurement I shall use. Any thoughts?
*Slowly rebuilding my Autobot/Decepticon armies. Wish me luck!*
Drogn
In article <3223DB...@earthlink.net>, Edmund Whitmore
<edmu...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Hello once again. (Before anyone asks, the novel is going smoothly) I
> just feel like starting a new thread. In the cartoons, every TF was
> ROUGHLY the same size, correct? We'll conveniantly forget the tapes and
> the mini-bots. So what I'm asking is this:
> What was with the toys?
> Like so many others, I had a zillion TF figures when I was younger. (All
> gone now. Dammit!!!) And no two were the same size! Examples:
I think the problem is that the toys weren't equipped with mass
shunt units. This also explains the lousy proportions forced on many of
the toys.
<chunkWHANG>
> 3.Gestalts are supposed to be big, right? What about the
> Seacons? Each one was about an inch tall! The gestalt (Piranicon?)
> wasn't even as tall as the Pretender Bumblebee shell! (That's why I am
> now afraid to purchase gestalts, for fear that my Batman figure could
> whup it)
The Seacons were the same size as the rest of the posthead gestalts,
and in fact I used two of them to sub for missing Technobots on my
Computron. The itty-bitty gestalt was Monstructor, made form the monster
pretenders. If you had him, you were pretty lucky!
> 4.Was every Op Prime a different size? I never had the original,
> but I had Powermaster (Ul Mags's size), Combat Hero (Nice, normal size),
> and Laser (Ridiculously big. Ain't no Megatron figure in the world
> that's gonna mess with him!)
Actually, LOP is about the same size as the original OP, except for
those huge shoulders. The orignal Megs toy was about the same size IIRC,
and I was under the impression that the big green G2 Megs was about the
same size as well.
> Was there ever a set size for TF's? I mean, a sort of "most-TF's-are-
> about-this-size-unless-it's-a-gestalt-or-just-hideously-overgrown" size?
> The very few TF's I now have (all purchased in one way or another due to
> the fine people of this newsgroup) are roughly 5 to 5 and 1/2 inches, so
> that is the measurement I shall use. Any thoughts?
For the toys, I think that the "set size" was for the vehicle modes,
which is what they were sold in. The packages have to fit into a shipping
crate, which has to be efficiently packable in a truck. There are also
shelving conventions that have to be observed or the store will have a
half-box sze space at the end of a row, space which is wasted for the
intended purpose of selling as much merchandise as possible. Put a bunch
of TFs in vehicle mode and see if I'm right, why don't you? I'd be
interested to know myself, since I don't have any tf's even approximately
the same size in my still-highly-limited collection (this is all from
memory)
On a somewhat related note, does anyone know what mode Sixshot was
sold in?
-Drogn, who seems to look at life
from an odd angle
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Comparing the toys to the cartoon/comic, there is no scale. Why, I can
only guess that with so many subspacers if you made them all scale in
one mode, then when you transformed them they would be out of scale.
Same if you tried with everyone in another mode so they probably
made them at what was a convienent size.
I guess.
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Warpticon
>> What was with the toys?
>> Like so many others, I had a zillion TF figures when I was younger. (All
>> gone now. Dammit!!!) And no two were the same size! Examples:
>
> I think the problem is that the toys weren't equipped with mass
> shunt units. This also explains the lousy proportions forced on many of
> the toys.
>
> <chunkWHANG>
>
and Microman) were of varying size, but the cartoonists couldn't well
represent a tank being itty-bitty next to a corvette, so certain allowances
were made to make things more realistic.
>> 3.Gestalts are supposed to be big, right? What about the
>> Seacons? Each one was about an inch tall! The gestalt (Piranicon?)
>> wasn't even as tall as the Pretender Bumblebee shell! (That's why I am
>> now afraid to purchase gestalts, for fear that my Batman figure could
>> whup it)
>
> The Seacons were the same size as the rest of the posthead gestalts,
> and in fact I used two of them to sub for missing Technobots on my
> Computron. The itty-bitty gestalt was Monstructor, made form the monster
> pretenders. If you had him, you were pretty lucky!
>
the wrong shells. Monstructor is about 5 inches tall. (I've got to
get out of this stupid measurement system. about 12.5 cm tall.) Piranacon
is significantly taller (although I can't say how much, since I don't
and never had him. Anybody who knows, let me know for the TFBOK.
>> 4.Was every Op Prime a different size? I never had the original,
>> but I had Powermaster (Ul Mags's size), Combat Hero (Nice, normal size),
>> and Laser (Ridiculously big. Ain't no Megatron figure in the world
>> that's gonna mess with him!)
>
> Actually, LOP is about the same size as the original OP, except for
> those huge shoulders. The orignal Megs toy was about the same size IIRC,
> and I was under the impression that the big green G2 Megs was about the
> same size as well.
>
tall. Laser Prime is about 7.5 inches tall head to toe, original prime
was about 6 inches tall, and tank (G2) megatron is either 6 inches
tall (hero version) or almost 10 (!) inches tall for the big green
tank.
>> Was there ever a set size for TF's? I mean, a sort of "most-TF's-are-
>> about-this-size-unless-it's-a-gestalt-or-just-hideously-overgrown" size?
>> The very few TF's I now have (all purchased in one way or another due to
>> the fine people of this newsgroup) are roughly 5 to 5 and 1/2 inches, so
>> that is the measurement I shall use. Any thoughts?
"normal." Therefore, the Deluxe BWs are the "normal" ones and the
regulars are more along the lines of the minibots, 'except they're
much more posable.
>
> For the toys, I think that the "set size" was for the vehicle modes,
> which is what they were sold in. The packages have to fit into a shipping
> crate, which has to be efficiently packable in a truck. There are also
> shelving conventions that have to be observed or the store will have a
> half-box sze space at the end of a row, space which is wasted for the
> intended purpose of selling as much merchandise as possible. Put a bunch
> of TFs in vehicle mode and see if I'm right, why don't you? I'd be
> interested to know myself, since I don't have any tf's even approximately
> the same size in my still-highly-limited collection (this is all from
> memory)
>
Dreadwing in such oversized boxes. Or the G1 cars and plaines for
that matter. Seems smaller boxes could've had them shipping, storing,
and selling more...oh, well. And they say packaging is half the cost
of the toy...
> On a somewhat related note, does anyone know what mode Sixshot was
> sold in?
>
envious of you for having one. :( :) Nah, really I'm glad you got
sumpin'. Myself, I've got 43 TFs, but only 4 g1s. At least for the
time being. I know 4 poeple that have sixshots, though. maybe I'll
get one.
> -Drogn, who seems to look at life
> from an odd angle
>
want theirs anymore.
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On Aug 28, 1996 18:19:30 in article <Re: SIZES>, 'merr...@sover.net
(Drogn)' wrote:
>On a somewhat related note, does anyone know what mode Sixshot was
>sold in?
>
>from an odd angle
Drogn
In article <505h2r$o...@news1.t1.usa.pipeline.com>,
ada...@usa.pipeline.com(Luther Durham) wrote:
> On Aug 28, 1996 18:19:30 in article <Re: SIZES>, 'merr...@sover.net
> (Drogn)' wrote:
>
> >On a somewhat related note, does anyone know what mode Sixshot was
> >sold in?
>
> Jet mode.
Really? I would have thought it would be one where his wings were folded,
since they're so wide when extended. His box must have been HUGE!
-Drogn, frequent perpetrator of
multitudinous typographical errors
Andrius Schmid
In article <merryhwd-300...@pm0a19.bf.sover.net> Drogn wrote:
>> >On a somewhat related note, does anyone know what mode Sixshot was
>> >sold in?
>>
>> Jet mode.
>
>Really? I would have thought it would be one where his wings were folded,
>since they're so wide when extended. His box must have been HUGE!
I just measured the box. In inchs (sorry standard-hating non-Americans) it
is 14 by 3 1/2 by 11 3/4. Yowza!
Distancingly yours,
Andrius
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