On Monday, May 21, 2012 5:48:46 PM UTC-7, Zobovor wrote:
> On May 21, 2:27 pm, "G.B. Blackrock" <
nicodemusleg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Nit-picky and off-topic, but Dumbledore wasn't retconned.
>
> I'm inclined to agree, if only because his sexual orientation was
> never mentioned or discussed in the Harry Potter books proper—only
> mentioned as a parenthetical remark by the author, after the fact. At
> best, it's psedocanon, along the same lines as Bob Forward speculating
> as to the chronological ages of the Beast Wars characters. It's an
> interesting insight into the characters, but it's not part of the
> canon.
One of the books spent a lot of time on Dumbledore's past, and I remember thinking at the time, before J. K. Rowling made her statement, "His relationship with the other wizard really seems kind of gay."
It was there if you wanted to pick it up -- never explicitly stated, but the character's motivations and behavior make a lot more sense if it is there.
It's also what the author intended, but I don't think the author's intent matters one whit. F. Scott Fitzgerald never meant for Gatsby to be a light skinned black man passing for white, but the novel (novella?) works beautifully with that assumption. The writers of Energon never intended their work to be a series of pointless events loosely connected by the dreams you had as you dozed off from tedium, but again, there is it.
> > But in answer to your actual question: if Spock weren't a pre-existing character with an established
> > (hetero)sexuality, it SHOULDN'T have mattered, but given that this was Spock... well, it would have
> > caused a lot of uproar, and rightly so.
>
> I've never perceived Spock as an ambiguously gay character, in any
> continuity. He had a flirtation with Uhura in the 1960's television
> show, so it's not like the writers of the film just pulled those
> character moments out of nowhere. Granted, it was much more subtle
> and low-key in the TV show, but it was there.
Just because Spock had an interest in women does not mean that he didn't also have an interest in men. Or the food replicator.
> As far as I know, the only time Spock is depicted as homosexual is in
> fan fiction written by people who pair him with Captain Kirk.
The Kirk side of that seems more unlikely than the Spock side.