Best TF action sequences ever!?
Blue-Jackal
Whats are the best TF action sequences ever?
For me I'd say.....
G1 - Season 2 opening credits,
Bruticus taking over Cybertron, "Bruticus outnumbered, but Bruticus
will win!"
Japanese - All I have of Japanese stuff is a few Masterforce eps and I'd
have to say both versions of the Masterforce opening credits
that I have rock! Especially where Dreadwind and Darkwing
fly along and suddenly swoop upwards Really fast! Yeah:)
(Can Japanese ones be mentioned here?)
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Blue-Jackal <Blue-...@warriorprincess.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Just like the nice header says.......
>
> Whats are the best TF action sequences ever?
>
> For me I'd say.....
>
> G1 - Season 2 opening credits,
> Bruticus taking over Cybertron, "Bruticus outnumbered, but Bruticus
> will win!"
>
> Japanese - All I have of Japanese stuff is a few Masterforce eps and I'd
> have to say both versions of the Masterforce opening credits
> that I have rock! Especially where Dreadwind and Darkwing
> fly along and suddenly swoop upwards Really fast! Yeah:)
>
> (Can Japanese ones be mentioned here?)
>
Best action sequence? well for the credits I LOVE the Headmaster's
begining and Victory. For in the actualy episode? Well the final fight
between Megatron and Prime in the movie was GREAT!
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The fight seen from BW season 1, the ep where the Maximals' true nature
is sublimated by the beast instincts?
The Rebirth opening
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Blue-Jackal <Blue-...@warriorprincess.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Just like the nice header says.......
> Whats are the best TF action sequences ever?
For me, it would have to be the Jetfire/Shockwave TV ad.
Seekers attacking pathetic, helpless, I think I saw Sunstreaker,
couple of other bots. The the MOUNTAIN splits open, and a
just utterly MASSIVE Jetfire steps out, firing two shots,
and taking out two Seekers. The final one, Starscream,
he chases down, after Transforming and launching. Just,
really, really, really cool-looking, and how Jetfire was MEANT
to be. :)
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C. Brickman Way
Well, no matter what your feelings on the movie, it had some awsome stuff.
I have always been partial to the "come on down, autobrat" scene during
the beginning of the battle for Autobot City. Blitzwing swoops in,
transforms, and lands facing the screen in the mid-backgound. Shortly
thereafter, Shrapnel, or a Shrapnel clone swoops down and flies into the
screen in front of him. It switches to a not-so-great bot-to-tank tf
sequence for Bzw, then a fairly lingering view of his cannon rising and
then through the targeting scope. Kup is seen tfing in the background,
then driving up to swing (out of proportion and too late to really have
kept Bzw from shooting) on the cannon and force it up so that it knocks
the same or different Shrapnel or Shrapnel clone out of the sky. Not that
believable, but nice in effect. Also right after that is a nice
split-second scene of Starscream herself transforming off of a cliff and
flying into the camera lasers blazing (nice jet sound on that one also)
Of course, the distruction of Lithone is one neat sequence, almost good
enough to stand on its own as a little horror short, I think.
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Cobalt2839
the movie...
Maybe not action(maybe just drama, or poetic justice?), but one of my favorites
is where Galvy challenges 'Magnus for the Matrix on Junk...
"'Magnus!" (only the second time someone's shortened his name, I might add) "I
want the Matrix!"
"NEVER!" 'Magnus shouts. (So brave, yet so stupid.)
"SWEEPS, Terminate him!" (Ah. One of his saner moments.)
and the ensuing agonizing moan 'Magnus so courteously utters as he blows up
into itty bitty bits. A friend of mine and I used to slow that one down...quite
gruesome, actually.
That, and the 'demolition derby' Kup and HotRod have with the
Sharkticons....and the Dinobots' entrance("Excuse me!")...
But my most favorite? The very last shot of the Battle for Autobot City...with
tracers skewing everywhere...
The Lady Razorsharp
Astalis
Cobalt2839 wrote:
> Well, at the risk of sounding scandalous...some of my favorite action is from
> the movie...
>
> Maybe not action(maybe just drama, or poetic justice?), but one of my favorites
> is where Galvy challenges 'Magnus for the Matrix on Junk...
> "'Magnus!" (only the second time someone's shortened his name, I might add) "I
> want the Matrix!"
> "NEVER!" 'Magnus shouts. (So brave, yet so stupid.)
> "SWEEPS, Terminate him!" (Ah. One of his saner moments.)
> and the ensuing agonizing moan 'Magnus so courteously utters as he blows up
> into itty bitty bits. A friend of mine and I used to slow that one down...quite
> gruesome, actually...
You scare me... :-)
Astalis
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rak...@mycle.dyn.ml.org
"C. Brickman Way" <bri...@grove.ufl.edu> wrote:
>
> Well, no matter what your feelings on the movie, it had some awsome stuff.
I did like one or two bits ... the interaction among the Decepticons when
Laserbeak returns with news, for instance. And Prime's death scene ...
couldn't fail to enjoy that one.... :)
And if I cut out the first half hour or so altogether and just watch the rest
of the Movie from that point onward, I can enjoy it as a bit of a fluff piece
set in an alternate universe....
--Raksha
Eric Harding
>In article <Pine.OSF.4.02A.9809142146580.25989-100000@dogwood>,
> "C. Brickman Way" <bri...@grove.ufl.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Well, no matter what your feelings on the movie, it had some awsome stuff.
>
>I did like one or two bits ... the interaction among the Decepticons when
>Laserbeak returns with news, for instance. And Prime's death scene ...
>couldn't fail to enjoy that one.... :)
What interaction? Megatron basically calling Starscream useless again, and
the con's standing around and listening to Laserbeak?
And, as to enjoying Prime's death scene, I enjoyed it to. I enjoyed how loyal
Prime's comrades where, and how touched they were by his passing. He was a
great leader, who gave his life so others could live, and also managed to
single handedly stop a massive Deception assault. He died a truely noble
death, one fitting for him. Shame they had ruin it in the next year with
TROOP.
Eric
Michael Fromel
>the con's standing around and listening to Laserbeak?
I mean the bit where Laserbeak lands on Megatron's arm.
Other good scenes..
Oddly enough MTMTE when the decepticons invade the ship. You get to
see Soundwave actually fighting.
The ep where they run out of 'cybertronium' (shutter to think of the
plot), but the scene where the decepticons are all jumping around
trying to fly is great. And starscream doing (yet again) the 'your
leader has fallen!' line then flying into a pile of cans!!!
Web World has some nice dramatic scenes when the planet tried to suck
out galvy's brain.
And the battle at the beginning was nice cause it wasn't the some old
'Rodimus, ultramag, galvy,cyclonus, 5 million sweeps' battle over and
over again. It was great seeing Sludge. Sludge..not even grimlock.
Just Sludge.
I'm sure I'll remember more later.
How about the ultimate pointless battle...
The minibots trying to stop Trypticon.
Heck even if he was scaled the size of the toy (like in the comic)
he's still kick thier butts.
Cobalt2839
>> Well, at the risk of sounding scandalous...some of my favorite action is
>from
>> the movie...
>>
>> Maybe not action(maybe just drama, or poetic justice?), but one of my
>favorites
>> is where Galvy challenges 'Magnus for the Matrix on Junk...
>> "'Magnus!" (only the second time someone's shortened his name, I might add)
>"I
>> want the Matrix!"
>> "NEVER!" 'Magnus shouts. (So brave, yet so stupid.)
>> "SWEEPS, Terminate him!" (Ah. One of his saner moments.)
>> and the ensuing agonizing moan 'Magnus so courteously utters as he blows up
>> into itty bitty bits. A friend of mine and I used to slow that one
>down...quite
>> gruesome, actually...
>
> You scare me... :-)
>
>Astalis
>
Flattery will get you nowhere. j/k...
The Lady Razorsharp
Eric Harding
>>What interaction? Megatron basically calling Starscream useless again, and
>>the con's standing around and listening to Laserbeak?
>Bub did you catch HOW well it was animated.
>I mean the bit where Laserbeak lands on Megatron's arm.
Okay, so we have Laserbeak landing on Megatron's arm, Megatron basically
calling Starscream useless again, and the con's standing around listening to
Laserbeak.
Sure the animation was cool, but seriously now, Microbots had better
interaction when Megs and the gang got drunk on the super-energon.
Eric
Charlotte Brogden
>In article <Pine.OSF.4.02A.9809142146580.25989-100000@dogwood>,
> "C. Brickman Way" <bri...@grove.ufl.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Well, no matter what your feelings on the movie, it had some awsome stuff.
>
>I did like one or two bits ... the interaction among the Decepticons when
>Laserbeak returns with news, for instance. And Prime's death scene ...
>couldn't fail to enjoy that one.... :)
Which doesn't quite make up for the last part of the movie where
Unicron attacks the Decepticons living on Cybertron. What a fizzer!
What a colossal disappointment! The battle between half the
Transformers species and a transforming planet is reduced to a couple
of scenes of jets taking off. The next thing we know, Autobots are in
control of the Cybertron. No fight scenes, no following of the
individual Decepticon stories, no great feeling of loss at a hundred
thousand brave Decepticon deaths in defense of their home planet...a
great gaping gulf in the story.
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cbro...@s054.aone.net.au (Charlotte Brogden) wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Sep 1998 20:35:32 EST, rak...@mycle.dyn.ml.org wrote:
parts snipped
> >I did like one or two bits ... the interaction among the Decepticons when
> >Laserbeak returns with news, for instance. And Prime's death scene ...
> >couldn't fail to enjoy that one.... :)
>
> Which doesn't quite make up for the last part of the movie where
> Unicron attacks the Decepticons living on Cybertron. What a fizzer!
> What a colossal disappointment! The battle between half the
> Transformers species and a transforming planet is reduced to a couple
> of scenes of jets taking off.
If it had been longer we'd have probably seen even more
destruction of Cybertron and it's large surface population of
Decepticons we all loved (like Shockwave and a ton of
nameless 'cons.)
> The next thing we know, Autobots are in
> control of the Cybertron. No fight scenes, no following of the
> individual Decepticon stories, no great feeling of loss at a hundred
> thousand brave Decepticon deaths in defense of their home planet...a
> great gaping gulf in the story.
As incredibly amaze the aftermath in FFoD was, it would
have been nice to see the post-Unicron battle for
Cybertron. I've always considered the result of it had the
surviving Decepticons (on the planet) either flee or join the
Autobots; which could explain Octane being caught in the
middle.
Are there any fanfics out there written about this time
in TF history?
J.L.
"I am Galvatron! Greatest of the Decepticons! You have
no right to change what I am!!!!"
-Galvatron
Charlotte Brogden
>In article <3600c21...@news.syd.aone.net.au>,
> cbro...@s054.aone.net.au (Charlotte Brogden) wrote:
>> Which doesn't quite make up for the last part of the movie where
>> Unicron attacks the Decepticons living on Cybertron. What a fizzer!
>> What a colossal disappointment! The battle between half the
>> Transformers species and a transforming planet is reduced to a couple
>> of scenes of jets taking off.
>
> If it had been longer we'd have probably seen even more
>destruction of Cybertron and it's large surface population of
>Decepticons we all loved (like Shockwave and a ton of
>nameless 'cons.)
You're being incredibly kind to the makers of the movie! :-) I
personally don't think "the movie was too short to be able show what
happened to the Decepticons" to be a very good excuse! Considering the
first part of the movie dwelled on the destruction of a mere Autobot
city and actually showed Arcee and Springer's race to pull on a
*lever*, I think the destruction of the Decepticon half of the
Transformers species deserved more time.
> Are there any fanfics out there written about this time
>in TF history?
Please add me to the list of people who want to know the answer to
that question. I've never seen a single fanfic that dealt with the
fate of the Decepticons who stayed on Cybertron during the movie. And
Primus I'd like to see one! Talk about epic potential! :-)
ALFett
> If it had been longer we'd have probably seen even more
>destruction of Cybertron and it's large surface population of
>Decepticons we all loved (like Shockwave and a ton of
>nameless 'cons.)
> Are there any fanfics out there written about this time
>in TF history?
I made an attempt at a more detailed depiction of the battle, but it really was
so bad I refused to post it anywhere.
To note about your Shockwave comment, in one of the early drafts of the movie
Shockwave was crushed by Unicron. Why do ya think he was in almost no (if any)
post movie eps?
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alf...@aol.com (ALFett) wrote:
> To note about your Shockwave comment, in one of the early drafts of the movie
> Shockwave was crushed by Unicron. Why do ya think he was in almost no (if any)
> post movie eps?
He wasn't in any. The only time we saw Shockwave, sort-of, was in the
opening credits of FFoD, where he was colored a weird yellow and was piling
on top of an energon cube along with a bunch of other Decepticons. I don't
think we can take this as a legitimate appearance by Shockwave in the third
season. I've always felt he died in the Movie ... a sad thing to say, but
better than having him exist in that terrible and empty third-season
universe. Compared to, for instance, Soundwave, Shockwave was the lucky one
in that continuity....
--Raksha
Zik Zak
> He wasn't in any. The only time we saw Shockwave, sort-of, was in the
> opening credits of FFoD, where he was colored a weird yellow and was piling
> on top of an energon cube along with a bunch of other Decepticons. I don't
> think we can take this as a legitimate appearance by Shockwave in the third
> season. I've always felt he died in the Movie ... a sad thing to say, but
> better than having him exist in that terrible and empty third-season
> universe. Compared to, for instance, Soundwave, Shockwave was the lucky one
> in that continuity....
Well, we also saw Showckwave in FFoD itself. In one of the episodes, we
got to see several Shockwaves, all colored yellow. Again, you could argue
that this was not a legitimate apearance.
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JLva...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> As incredibly amaze the aftermath in FFoD was, it would
> have been nice to see the post-Unicron battle for
> Cybertron. I've always considered the result of it had the
> surviving Decepticons (on the planet) either flee or join the
> Autobots;
I just have to say here that *no* true Decepticon would ever join the
Autobots. If you can't picture an Autobot joining the Decepticons, then it
should be no easier to imagine it the other way around. Decepticons would
sooner fight to the death than give in and become slaves to their hated
enemies and be forced to accept everything they loathe. This is an entire
lifetime's entrenched philosophy we're talking about here, and the notion
that an individual on either side would just give it up when it becomes
momentarily inconvenient, is just not consistent with what we know of any of
these characters. They have more internal strength and consistency than
that.
Nor do I think there was much of a battle following Unicron's attack.
Consider - Cybertron at the beginning of the Movie was inhabited entirely by
Decepticons. Unicron, when he attacked the planet, annihilated vast numbers
of them. That's the *only* way the Autobots were able to take back the
planet - because Unicron had killed most of the opposition for them. We can
assume that the Autobots killed those who remained, those who were unable to
escape (because, like I said, they'd never have surrendered and joined the
'Bots).
>which could explain Octane being caught in the
> middle.
I'm not sure I'd consider Octane "caught in the middle". He had some
suspicious interactions with an Autobot, but that was Sandstorm, as I recall,
who was really a Paradronian, and thus probably didn't have the biases that
Cybertronian Autobots would have. Still, if I were leading the 'Cons, I'd
have looked with great disfavor on Octane's buddy-buddy interaction with the
enemy. Under the circumstances of Galvatron's leadership, though, I'm not
sure he was really a security threat - it wasn't as though he was giving
information to the 'Bots. He's just a Decepticon who blundered onto the bad
side of an insane commander. But he never did anything that could have
helped the Autobots against the Decepticons, and thus I don't see him really
"in the middle." When it counted, his loyalties were in the right place.
> Are there any fanfics out there written about this time
> in TF history?
I've got one sort-of in the planning stage, but who knows when it'll get
written ... it follows an altered history anyway, seeing as I don't accept
the Movie and third season as part of the pre-Movie universe ... and my stuff
kind- of works its way around the pre-Movie episodes.....
> "I am Galvatron! Greatest of the Decepticons! You have
> no right to change what I am!!!!"
One of the few lines from Galvatron that I can actually admire, at least when
taken out of context.... :)
Skyflight
: I just have to say here that *no* true Decepticon would ever join the
: Autobots. If you can't picture an Autobot joining the Decepticons, then it
: should be no easier to imagine it the other way around. Decepticons would
: sooner fight to the death than give in and become slaves to their hated
: enemies and be forced to accept everything they loathe. This is an entire
: lifetime's entrenched philosophy we're talking about here, and the notion
: that an individual on either side would just give it up when it becomes
: momentarily inconvenient, is just not consistent with what we know of any of
: these characters. They have more internal strength and consistency than
: that.
A very good point here, one often clouded by the very few exceptions. One
has to go no further than More Than Meets the Eye for proof of this. Look at
how desperate the Bots must be for energon in this episode - they take off
in a ship which probably has most of their resources tied up, without
adequete secrecy or stealth, looking for energy with no specific
destination. This says quite a bit about the Bots, IMHO, that they hadn't
already surrendered, and instead pinned all their hopes on that one
mission. At the very least they were willing to go down fighting. Now,
naturally, I think the Decepticons, being a warrior race by nature would be
even less likely to surrender and live according to someone else's rules
than the Bots.
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>I just have to say here that *no* true Decepticon would ever join the
>Autobots. If you can't picture an Autobot joining the Decepticons, then it
>should be no easier to imagine it the other way around. Decepticons would
>sooner fight to the death than give in and become slaves to their hated
>enemies and be forced to accept everything they loathe. This is an entire
>lifetime's entrenched philosophy we're talking about here, and the notion
>that an individual on either side would just give it up when it becomes
>momentarily inconvenient, is just not consistent with what we know of any of
>these characters. They have more internal strength and consistency than
>that.
>
>Consider - Cybertron at the beginning of the Movie was inhabited entirely by
>Decepticons. Unicron, when he attacked the planet, annihilated vast numbers
>of them. That's the *only* way the Autobots were able to take back the
>planet - because Unicron had killed most of the opposition for them. We can
>assume that the Autobots killed those who remained, those who were unable to
>escape (because, like I said, they'd never have surrendered and joined the
>'Bots).
ThAt is if, the Autobots killed any of them, I always imagined it would be cool
to see Shockwave Taking out Large Numbers of Autobots, before finally being
brought donw under a vast mob of them, <<sigh>> wishful thinking eh Raksha?
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rak...@mycle.dyn.ml.org wrote:
> Decepticons would
> sooner fight to the death than give in and become slaves to their hated
> enemies and be forced to accept everything they loathe.
I agree! A die-hard Decepticon (one who believes in the cause,
not just out of fear of Megatron) would rather die fighting than
surrender, but I wasn't talking about surrender, I was talking about
a free will conversion, as a result of seeing the light; ok, maybe not
'the light', but by some kind of revelation. And Transfromers, as
free willed beings, are capable of that.
Now one reason the switch was so rare was probably
Hasbro/Marvel didn't want to upset how they'd marketed a toy,
and probably weren't too keen on re-releasing a toy on the
other side. (I think G.I.Joe's StormShadow was the only case.)
So the only side changes seen were origins or stories of how a
Transformer switched to the side that Hasbro/Marvel released
him on, like Skyfire, Constructicons (mind zap), and even BW
Dinobot; although BW has much more leeway and is not same
show/cannon.
> This is an entire
> lifetime's entrenched philosophy we're talking about here, and the notion
> that an individual on either side would just give it up when it becomes
> momentarily inconvenient, is just not consistent with what we know of any of
> these characters. They have more internal strength and consistency than
> that.
Hmmm... not really someone like Deadend, who I'm sure
didn't care much about a Decepticon cause as he was
portrayed as not caring about anything. I think his potential
switch, for ex., would require the Autobots to provide him with
something to actually care about, and for Breakdown to
realize it, none of which would be easy. Another example is
Slingshot. I always thought he'd be better as a Decepticon
because of his dissension and non-acceptance of Optimus
Prime's values, as shown on 2 occasions (the Key to Vector
Sigma p.2, and War Dawn). Since he's already shown his
desire to disassociate himself from the Autobots (in tKtVS2 I
think? It's been a decade!) his switch would require an incentive
to join the Decepticons and destroy the Autobots, which would
also be difficult.
Of course the general TF public (and Hasbro/Marvel)
wouldn't like to see a group split up, so this is another
deterrent. Because of this, I'm sure if more gestault teams
were featured in TFTM, none of their members would have
been killed.
> If you can't picture an Autobot joining the Decepticons, then it
> should be no easier to imagine it the other way around.
I think this has been covered in other threads, so I'll keep the
example brief. If Autobot 'A' and Decepticon 'D' each wanted
to equally join the other side, 'D' would have a better chance
of making it to the Autobot leader while 'A' would surely get
blasted by Megatron/Galvatron. Unless 'A' had something
useful in which case Meg/Galv would use him then blast him.
I lied. Here's more examples of Decepticons approaching
Autobots unharmed. Blitzwing approached Rodimus Prime
in FFoD#5, Scourge also in 'Starscream's Ghost', Octane
was Sandstorm's friend at Autobot city in 'Ghost in the Machine'
(did I mix up the last 2 episodes?) Anyway my point is it's
easier for a 'Con's switch to be accepted by the Autobots, than
for a 'Bot's switch being accepted by the Decepticons.
Deterrent #3 is that fans who have grown to know and love
TF's for who they are wouldn't like to see them switch, and I'm
no exception, trust me. I'm glad Blitzwing said no to Rodimus'
offer to change sides. It showed his integrity and raised his
value for me.
> Nor do I think there was much of a battle following Unicron's attack.
> Consider - Cybertron at the beginning of the Movie was inhabited entirely by
> Decepticons. Unicron, when he attacked the planet, annihilated vast numbers
> of them. That's the *only* way the Autobots were able to take back the
> planet - because Unicron had killed most of the opposition for them.
That makes good sense. It would explain how fast the
Cybertronian wars were over in Rodimus Prime's speech at
the end of the movie.
>We can
> assume that the Autobots killed those who remained, those who were unable to
> escape (because, like I said, they'd never have surrendered and joined the
> 'Bots).
Here there are possibilities. A Transformer who's new on the
scene, who's history we fans don't know about, who's not a
toy or part of a team, can be a candidate for a switch. That is,
there's nothing preventing the story from showing the 'Bot or
'Con having second thoughts about his side or its ideals, or
whatever, and realizing the other side would better suit
his/her purpose. A writer just has to be creative, not lambaste
one of the TF sides, and center that part of the story on the
switcher and what's best for him or her. Except for the Hasbro
toy restraints, I considered Octane in this category.
Well, these are my two energon's worth, from a fan who loves
both Autobots and Decepticons and all Transformers on either
side from the original TF cartoon. Well, maybe I only _liked_
Computron...
J.L.
"Galvatron!"
"Blitzwing, my comrade!"
"Galvatron, I thought the tales of your survival were but wishful thinking."
"No. I live!"
-Blitzwing and Galvatron's tearful reunion