What's in the pack?
Bck2DFtr
Hello fellow Joes! I'm in need of some help/information. I am just wondering
what sorts of items soldiers (WW1 - Present) carried(y) in their packs?
For example:
mess kit
tools (what kinds)
personal items (what kinds)
first aid kit
photos (girlfriend, etc.)
decon kit
small bible
cigs and matches
chocolate bars
ETC.
Well, you get the idea. I'm also wondering where I might be able to find some
of these items that are scale to Joe. I probably could make some of these, but
would like to have the item be as accurate (packaging, etc) to the time frame
it was used. Did you follow that? I would like to add a lot of detail to my
fig, even to what he has in his pack. So, if you can add to the list, please
do. Let me and the Sandbox know, just incase others want to know too. Thanks
for your time.
Triplett98
<<Hello fellow Joes! I'm in need of some help/information. I am just
wondering
what sorts of items soldiers (WW1 - Present) carried(y) in their packs?>>
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LRic54
well ww2 my guess would be:Mess Kit,Entrenching tool [if the 1928 pack system
if still atached],maybe some lolcal food,the Slop as they called it
,matchs,maybe some caned food,cigeretes,soem Bandages moe medical suplys ifa
Medic obveisly!,from Modern here :Megelen stalite Location device,MREs or Power
Bars got this out of My SEAL book depends a Power bar or MRE you be the
judge,posibly a Radio,handheld walkie talkie extra batterries,Bandages,Medic
suplys,extra box of bullet,extra set of BDUs,.Nam era i can giv eyou excact
detail i'm to tired to keep typeing if you want to know LMK
Carin
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Bck2DFtr <bck2...@aol.com> wrote in article
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>
> Hello fellow Joes! I'm in need of some help/information. I am just
wondering
> what sorts of items soldiers (WW1 - Present) carried(y) in their packs?
>
blackdog
>Hello fellow Joes! I'm in need of some help/information. I am just
wondering
>what sorts of items soldiers (WW1 - Present) carried(y) in their packs?
>
C-rat's
tools: weapons cleaning kit, wire cutters/lineman's pliers, entrenching
tool, solid fuel stove
personal items: towel, washcloth, toothbrush, toothpaiste, bar of soap,
razor
jungle first aid kit (6"x6"x2" case O.D. w/red cross)
small bible(new testement)
a whole lot of cigs and a zippo
chocolate bars, flask of jack black, gum.
extra uniform(not always) undies, sockes, foot powder, wet and cold weather
gear (very by location)
lot's and lot's and lot's of ammo
jimi g.
Uncle Wilfred
According to the early World War II field manuals the "standard" field pack
included the following:
raincoat (later poncho); shelter half, guy rope, tent stakes, one folding
tent pole; change of undergraments;blanket; rations; razor; shaving brush;
shaving soap; toothbrush; tooth powder and bar soap.
In addition to the field pack, the soldier was attired with ammo cartridge
belt, first aid pouch, mess kit, canteen w/ cover; e-tool with cover and,
early on, gas mask with carrier.
I think that World War I U.S. soldiers would be similarly outfitted - I
believe WWI doughboys usually carried a second pair of boots strapped to
the outside of the pack. Not sure if World War II soldiers did this or not.
Of course, the typical GI lightened his load as much as practical - and he
carried personal extras on his person or in his pack - souvenirs, photos,
maybe a camera, writing paper and pencil.
My father said that they rarely hauled the shelter halves - it was trenches
and such in forward areas and when they were bivouaced in the rear, the
army brought up the tents and what not that they would need. But he was an
MP, not a frontline soldier.
Wilfred.
SJSNYDR
As for a modern day joe, this is what I carry;
couple pairs of socks, T-shirts, MRE's, shaving kit, slepping bag, 'snivel'
gear (poly- pro), GPS, NVG's, ponchos, and radio w/ extra batteries. Also
have a polypad for laying on the ground. Almost forgot the most important
thing! My WOOBIE!! You might call it poncho liner. It's a lifesaver on
those cold nights in the patrol base.
Steve Snyder
Alaska Joe
AIRBORNE!!!
GIDefender
As for the World One Pack, I have done a lot of research on this and it is very
similar to the D Day pack offered by hasbro. It was nothing more than a wrap
for a blanket with a "T"-handled E-tool attached with a smaller pocket for the
shaving accessories and change of skivies and socks. (Unknow about the extra
boots secured to the outside of the pack, but very possible.)
As for modern era post A.L.IC.E. a few changes of uniforms, poncho, poncho
liner, weapons cleaning kit, a couple of MREs, "Poagie Bait", shaving kit,
towel and wash cloth, sleeping system, a few bungees, mess kit, clean underwear
and socks and a lot of useless garbage they make us hump we don't wantt o put
on our belts.
One thing on the modern era, folks have taken a liking to sealing their
clothing and stuff in "ziplock bags" to keep them dry as well. I don't know
what your planning on doing here, but this is a very common practice indeed.
If you need a detailed picture of a WWI pack let me know and I will supply some
to you.
The Cabin Boy
Tamara Scherbak
>
> Hello fellow Joes! I'm in need of some help/information. I am just wondering
> what sorts of items soldiers (WW1 - Present) carried(y) in their packs?
>
> mess kit
> tools (what kinds)
> personal items (what kinds)
> first aid kit
> photos (girlfriend, etc.)
> decon kit
> small bible
> cigs and matches
> chocolate bars
> ETC.
>
> Well, you get the idea. I'm also wondering where I might be able to find some
> of these items that are scale to Joe. I probably could make some of these, but
> would like to have the item be as accurate (packaging, etc) to the time frame
> it was used. Did you follow that? I would like to add a lot of detail to my
> fig, even to what he has in his pack. So, if you can add to the list, please
> do. Let me and the Sandbox know, just incase others want to know too. Thanks
> for your time.
>
> Bck2...@aol.com
There's some 1/6th scale cigarette packs and mathches at my site:
http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/armada/185/
Tamara
Gregory G. James
I just got off the telephone with Barbara Billingsley, and
here is what young Frederic is trying to say.....
Well, for WWII my guess would be: mess kit, an entrenching
tool (if the M1928 pack system, if still attached), maybe some lo-cal
food (slop, as they called it), matches, maybe some canned food,
cigarettes, some bandages, and more medical supplies (if they were
a medic, obviously!)
For modern era: a Magellan satellite location (GPS) device,
MRE's, or a Power Bar...(I got this out of my SEAL book, it depends,
you be the judge). Possibly a radio, or a hand-held walkie-talkie,
extra batteries, bandages, medical supplies, or an extra box of
bullets, and an extra set of BDU's.
For the Vietnam era, I can give you exact details, but I'm
too tired to keep typing, so if you want to know, LMK.
Barbara told me that if I call again with one of these, she's
gonna start charging me to translate.....
All in good fun,
Greg
RJohn68217
>
>Hello fellow Joes! I'm in need of some help/information. I am just
>wondering
>what sorts of items soldiers (WW1 - Present) carried(y) in their packs?
Well-
I downloaded a copy of Thor's kit list from the DOD website.
Capt Sadler carries:
Extra BDU
3 Sets skivvies (female, silk, for personal wear)
Matching evening bag and shoes (his personal pref: a comfortable clog or pedal
pusher).
Asst accy's (pearls for eveningr, etc....)
PlayGirl Magazine (the one with David Duchovney in it).
Estee Lauder blush/eyeliner/foundation.
Souvenier ticket stub and used towl from vacation to the Sutro bath house in
SF.
And a black, mid length dress, equally at home on the battlefield, in the
office, or out on the town.
Hope that helps ;-D
Roy
"I was wearing an onion on my belt, as was the style at the time...."
Abe Simpson
the_Hman
>
> Hello fellow Joes! I'm in need of some help/information. I am just wondering
> what sorts of items soldiers (WW1 - Present) carried(y) in their packs?
>
> mess kit
> tools (what kinds)
> personal items (what kinds)
> first aid kit
> photos (girlfriend, etc.)
> decon kit
> small bible
> cigs and matches
> chocolate bars
> ETC.
>
> Well, you get the idea. I'm also wondering where I might be able to find some
> of these items that are scale to Joe. I probably could make some of these, but
> would like to have the item be as accurate (packaging, etc) to the time frame
> it was used. Did you follow that? I would like to add a lot of detail to my
> fig, even to what he has in his pack. So, if you can add to the list, please
> do. Let me and the Sandbox know, just incase others want to know too. Thanks
> for your time.
>
> Bck2...@aol.com
packing list
-Socks, socks, and more socks (usually green or black wool)
-foot powder and perhaps moleskin.
-MRE(s depending on length of deployment)
-Wet weather gear
-poncho CAMO square piece of PVC (6x6 I think) with a drawstring hood
in the center
-2 piece OD PVC suit.
-MOPP gear
-protective chemical suit 2 piece OD green or camo outside, black
inside
-rubber boots(black with exterior eyelets and strings tied in a
sandal fashion when worn, or OD ones that look like civilian boot
galoshes
-black rubber dishwashing gloves.
-crook neck flashlight with red lens
-shaving kit (pretty standard to civilian stuff
-wash rag (brown)
-towel (brown)
-sleeping kit(again depending on length of deployment)
-shelter half, with six pole supports, rope and tent stakes
-sleeping bag (OD come in intermediate and extreme cold weather
versions the extreme being much bulkier)
-sleeping bag was usually rolled as tightly as possible and kept in
an OD water proof bag tied at the end and attached to the bottom of
the pack frame with two nylon OD pack straps
-sleeping mat (OD) you could make this out of craft foam cut 12"x3.5"
with 4 1/8" straps all painted/dyed OD
-sleeping hood (brown)
-poncho liner (camo sometimes substituted for sleeping bag in
temperate climes)
Light infantry units usually substitute ammo for comfort items (such as
a poncho and liner as their only sleeping kit) since they have to march
hundreds of miles with gear instead of riding in trucks or bradleys.
STRAC units (or anal depending on how you look at it) pack their rucks
the exact same way, (even the order in which things appear bottom to
top) the reason/excuse being that if you need to get something from an
MIA/KIA comrade, (such as MOPP gear) you won't have to dig around for
it.
I usually carried a butt pack, (like the small pack on the 21st sets)
where I kept a small camping 1st aid kit, socks, goretex socks (2 tone
blue and black) towel, mosquito repellent, handkerchiefs (brown),
poagie bait and a Dean Koontz novel.
RJohn68217
>
>I just got off the telephone with Barbara Billingsley, and
>here is what young Frederic is trying to say.....
Excuse me Stewardess, but I speak jive ;D
MERK
Gregory G. James wrote in message <360D3...@flash.net>...
>LRic54 wrote:
> Well, for WWII my guess would be: mess kit, an entrenching
>tool (if the M1928 pack system, if still attached), maybe some lo-cal
>food (slop, as they called it), matches, maybe some canned food,
I was trying to figure out the "lo-cal food"...why would you need lo-cal??
Watching that girlish figure,I guess.... I reckon Freddy meant....Local
Food. ya think??
MERK!!..................Deeds Speak!!
kmer...@usit.net Box Resident since 94
Gregory G. James
> I was trying to figure out the "lo-cal food"...
>why would you need lo-cal??
>I reckon Freddy meant....Local
> Food. ya think??
>
> MERK!!..................Deeds Speak!!
> kmer...@usit.net
> Box Resident since 94
Yes,
Frederic had Barb and I stumped on that one,
sometimes things get lost in the "translation".......
Too bad that more kids aren't as knowledgeable in
history as he is.....he just needs to check that
spelling and typing(like I have to) a little more
often.
Greg
Opie
>Roy
LOLROFUITIBAG!
(Laughing out loud rolling on floor until I thought I'd bust a gut!)
What a hoot!
- Opie
Thor
You're dead meat!!! I would NEVER have a copy of Playgirl!!! Those other
items are essential to my line of work of getting information from the
enemy. I use them as bribes or tools to gain the enemy's women's trust and
confidence. At times Roy...I have to use my body to get the information to
save our chaps from the enemy juggernaut. Until you bed down with
something that came from Wendy's commercial on Russian evening wear you
have NO RIGHT to expose me and the dirty job I must do. For our
country...SHAME ON YOU!
BTW-Anna Onatov sends her love from Russia. ;-D
THOR
RJohn68217 <rjohn...@aol.com> wrote in article
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>
> >
> >Hello fellow Joes! I'm in need of some help/information. I am just
> >wondering
> >what sorts of items soldiers (WW1 - Present) carried(y) in their packs?
>
> Well-
> I downloaded a copy of Thor's kit list from the DOD website.
> Capt Sadler carries:
> Extra BDU
> 3 Sets skivvies (female, silk, for personal wear)
> Matching evening bag and shoes (his personal pref: a comfortable clog or
pedal
> pusher).
> Asst accy's (pearls for eveningr, etc....)
> PlayGirl Magazine (the one with David Duchovney in it).
> Estee Lauder blush/eyeliner/foundation.
> Souvenier ticket stub and used towl from vacation to the Sutro bath house
in
> SF.
> And a black, mid length dress, equally at home on the battlefield, in the
> office, or out on the town.
> Hope that helps ;-D
> Roy
Thor
;-)
THOR
Opie <opie...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
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> >Hope that helps ;-D
> >Roy
Opie
>Opie...come closer so I can hurt you.
>;-)
>THOR
Help! Help! Now he's trying to use his wile, wit, and charm to
seduce me! Sorry, Thor, I don't do your SadoMaso games! Try Aaron...
I understand he even gets INSPECTED while wearing dresses! Between
your lingerie and his dress inspections, you two are scary! HA!
;-)
- Ope
Aaron Luck
really pushing your luck Opie. Desist from all of this slander or face
some sort of terrible negative action. Actually, I think I'll just let
Thor take care of you as I understand he still has some small kittens
roaming about the neighborhood.
Aaron Luck
Opie wrote:
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Go Army!
Check out my Joe website at : http://members.xoom.com/ALuck/GIJoe.htm
Thor
> On 27 Sep 1998 15:00:34 GMT, "Thor" <tsa...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> >Opie...come closer so I can hurt you.
> >;-)
> >THOR
> Help! Help! Now he's trying to use his wile, wit, and charm to
> seduce me! Sorry, Thor, I don't do your SadoMaso games! Try Aaron...
> I understand he even gets INSPECTED while wearing dresses! Between
> your lingerie and his dress inspections, you two are scary! HA!
> ;-)
> - Ope
If you find my remarks as a charm to seduce you, then I dare say you have
mated with many a goat, a cow, and sloth as they have more charm in their
flagellation than my plead to strike you.
;-D
THOR
Opie
guys wearin' rayon evening gowns surrounding my house!!! (I didn't
know the Army was issuing pink web gear, but it's gotta match their
pumps, I guess... ) I give up!
HA!
- Op
P.S. I just read where the courts tossed out that gay Army guy's
discriminitaion suit over the "don't ask don't tell" policy. It was a
suit joined by a gay Navy guy. Gives new meaning to the term "sister
service." :-)