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Sofa King

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Feb 3, 2012, 1:27:27 PM2/3/12
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http://www.care2.com/causes/anonymous-hacks-neo-nazis-finds-ron-paul.html

Well this just got interesting.

The hacktivist collective Anonymous set out to take down the white
supremacist American Third Party (A3P) in what they called “Operation
Blitzkrieg” but they may have done much more.

In a document dump that includes private forum messages, emails,
organization notes another other information the group found numerous
connections between Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul and A3P.
According to the documents, all hosted here, Paul himself regularly met
with many A3P members, engaged in conference calls with their board of
directors and engaged in a “bridging tactic” between A3P and the Ron Paul
Revolution.

Other excerpts show A3P webmaster Jamie Kelso (whose email account was one
hacked by the collective) coordinating meeting between Paul and other
members of A3P such as corporate lawyer and chairman of the neo-Nazi group
Paul. “I’m going to go to the Conservative Political Action Conference
(CPAC) with Bill Johnson,” reads an email to an A3P member dated January
2011. “Bill and I will be meeting with Ron and Ran Paul. I have a
teleconference call with Bill (and Ron Paul) tonight. Much more later.
Things are starting to happen (thanks to folks like you).”

In another passage, Kelso, a former Scientologist and account owner of other
German Nazi forums, wrote: “I’ll be at CPAC from Feb. 9 to Feb. 12. I’ll
send back reports to you from personal meetings with Ron Paul,
newly-elected Senator Rand Paul and many others. It’ll be here on
WhiteNewsNow, a place that is really starting to get interesting because of
the presence of folks like you. Birds of a feather flock together, and we
are really gathering some quality here.”

Accusations of racism and ties to neo-Nazi interests have plagued Paul since
the 1990s and have re-surfaced during this campaign. So far Paul has issued
standard denials, claiming not to have been aware of the ties between his
camp and the racist right and denied authorship of a series of racist
newsletters, despite confirmation from his closest staff that Paul signed
off on every detail.
So what’s Paul’s explanation now?

Read more:
http://www.care2.com/causes/anonymous-hacks-neo-nazis-finds-ron-paul.html#ixzz1lLQJynNj


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Joel Edge

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Feb 4, 2012, 8:50:46 AM2/4/12
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On Fri, 3 Feb 2012 13:27:27 -0500, Sofa King wrote
(in article <1622236.I...@127.0.0.1>):

> http://www.care2.com/causes/anonymous-hacks-neo-nazis-finds-ron-paul.html
>
> Well this just got interesting.
>
> The hacktivist collective Anonymous set out to take down the white
> supremacist American Third Party (A3P) in what they called â Operation
> Blitzkriegâ but they may have done much more.
>
> In a document dump that includes private forum messages, emails,
> organization notes another other information the group found numerous
> connections between Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul and A3P.
> According to the documents, all hosted here, Paul himself regularly met
> with many A3P members, engaged in conference calls with their board of
> directors and engaged in a â bridging tacticâ between A3P and the Ron Paul
> Revolution.
>
> Other excerpts show A3P webmaster Jamie Kelso (whose email account was one
> hacked by the collective) coordinating meeting between Paul and other
> members of A3P such as corporate lawyer and chairman of the neo-Nazi group
> Paul. â Iâ m going to go to the Conservative Political Action Conference
> (CPAC) with Bill Johnson,â reads an email to an A3P member dated January
> 2011. â Bill and I will be meeting with Ron and Ran Paul. I have a
> teleconference call with Bill (and Ron Paul) tonight. Much more later.
> Things are starting to happen (thanks to folks like you).â
>
> In another passage, Kelso, a former Scientologist and account owner of other
> German Nazi forums, wrote: â Iâ ll be at CPAC from Feb. 9 to Feb. 12.
Iâ ll
> send back reports to you from personal meetings with Ron Paul,
> newly-elected Senator Rand Paul and many others. Itâ ll be here on
> WhiteNewsNow, a place that is really starting to get interesting because of
> the presence of folks like you. Birds of a feather flock together, and we
> are really gathering some quality here.â
>
> Accusations of racism and ties to neo-Nazi interests have plagued Paul since
> the 1990s and have re-surfaced during this campaign. So far Paul has issued
> standard denials, claiming not to have been aware of the ties between his
> camp and the racist right and denied authorship of a series of racist
> newsletters, despite confirmation from his closest staff that Paul signed
> off on every detail.
> So whatâ s Paulâ s explanation now?
>
> Read more:
>
http://www.care2.com/causes/anonymous-hacks-neo-nazis-finds-ron-
paul.html#ixzz
> 1lLQJynNj
>
>
>

Wow. Scary stuff.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Third_Position_Party

You like wikipedia, don't you?

"New Hampshire state party chairman Ryan Murdough ran in the Republican Party
of New Hampshire primary for a seat representing the Eighth District of the
Grafton County delegation to the New Hampshire House of Representatives,[16]
but he was refused support by the Republican party, which called him a
"despicable racist".[17] He placed fifth out of five candidates in the
Republican primary, garnering 296 votes (11%).[18] Murdough is now the
National Political Director for the National Socialist American Labor Party,
a party which espouses Nazi beliefs.[19]"

Sounds like your kind of candidate, princess.

Sofa King

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Feb 28, 2012, 5:24:26 PM2/28/12
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Joel Edge wrote:

> On Fri, 3 Feb 2012 13:27:27 -0500, Sofa King wrote
> (in article <1622236.I...@127.0.0.1>):
>
>> http://www.care2.com/causes/anonymous-hacks-neo-nazis-finds-ron-paul.html
>>
>> Well this just got interesting.
>>
>> The hacktivist collective Anonymous set out to take down the white
>> supremacist American Third Party (A3P) in what they called “Operation
>> Blitzkrieg†but they may have done much more.
>>
>> In a document dump that includes private forum messages, emails,
>> organization notes another other information the group found numerous
>> connections between Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul and A3P.
>> According to the documents, all hosted here, Paul himself regularly met
>> with many A3P members, engaged in conference calls with their board of
>> directors and engaged in a “bridging tactic†between A3P and the Ron
>> Paul Revolution.
>>
>> Other excerpts show A3P webmaster Jamie Kelso (whose email account was
>> one hacked by the collective) coordinating meeting between Paul and other
>> members of A3P such as corporate lawyer and chairman of the neo-Nazi
>> group Paul. “I’m going to go to the Conservative Political Action
>> Conference (CPAC) with Bill Johnson,†reads an email to an A3P member
>> dated January 2011. “Bill and I will be meeting with Ron and Ran Paul.
>> I have a teleconference call with Bill (and Ron Paul) tonight. Much more
>> later. Things are starting to happen (thanks to folks like you).â€
>>
>> In another passage, Kelso, a former Scientologist and account owner of
>> other German Nazi forums, wrote: “I’ll be at CPAC from Feb. 9 to Feb.
>> 12.
> I’ll
>> send back reports to you from personal meetings with Ron Paul,
>> newly-elected Senator Rand Paul and many others. It’ll be here on
>> WhiteNewsNow, a place that is really starting to get interesting because
>> of the presence of folks like you. Birds of a feather flock together, and
>> we are really gathering some quality here.â€
>>
>> Accusations of racism and ties to neo-Nazi interests have plagued Paul
>> since the 1990s and have re-surfaced during this campaign. So far Paul
>> has issued standard denials, claiming not to have been aware of the ties
>> between his camp and the racist right and denied authorship of a series
>> of racist newsletters, despite confirmation from his closest staff that
>> Paul signed off on every detail.
>> So what’s Paul’s explanation now?
>>
>> Read more:
>>
> http://www.care2.com/causes/anonymous-hacks-neo-nazis-finds-ron-
> paul.html#ixzz
>> 1lLQJynNj
>>
>>
>>
>
> Wow. Scary stuff.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Third_Position_Party
>
> You like wikipedia, don't you?

sure:

"The American Third Position Party (A3P) is a third positionist American
political party which promotes white supremacism"

>
> "New Hampshire state party chairman Ryan Murdough ran in the Republican
> Party of New Hampshire primary for a seat representing the Eighth District
> of the Grafton County delegation to the New Hampshire House of
> Representatives,[16] but he was refused support by the Republican party,
> which called him a "despicable racist".[17] He placed fifth out of five
> candidates in the Republican primary, garnering 296 votes (11%).[18]
> Murdough is now the National Political Director for the National Socialist
> American Labor Party, a party which espouses Nazi beliefs.[19]"
>
> Sounds like your kind of candidate, princess.

actually, it sounds like ron paul doesn't have a problem with neo nazis,
while i DO have a problem with them - and apparently at some point the
republicans took issue with murdough's racism and neo-nazism. are you
having trouble reading for comprehension? will you be voting for ron paul
so you can give your state's neo-nazi groups a little more control over
your life via "state's rights"?
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Joel Edge

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Feb 29, 2012, 6:51:15 AM2/29/12
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On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 17:24:26 -0500, Sofa King wrote
(in article <9534424.E...@127.0.0.1>):

> Joel Edge wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 3 Feb 2012 13:27:27 -0500, Sofa King wrote
>> (in article <1622236.I...@127.0.0.1>):
>>
>>> http://www.care2.com/causes/anonymous-hacks-neo-nazis-finds-ron-paul.html
>>>
>>> Well this just got interesting.
>>>
>>> The hacktivist collective Anonymous set out to take down the white
>>> supremacist American Third Party (A3P) in what they called â  Operation
>>> Blitzkriegâ  but they may have done much more.
>>>
>>> In a document dump that includes private forum messages, emails,
>>> organization notes another other information the group found numerous
>>> connections between Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul and A3P.
>>> According to the documents, all hosted here, Paul himself regularly met
>>> with many A3P members, engaged in conference calls with their board of
>>> directors and engaged in a â  bridging tacticâ  between A3P and the
>>> Ron
>>> Paul Revolution.
>>>
>>> Other excerpts show A3P webmaster Jamie Kelso (whose email account was
>>> one hacked by the collective) coordinating meeting between Paul and other
>>> members of A3P such as corporate lawyer and chairman of the neo-Nazi
>>> group Paul. â  Iâ  m going to go to the Conservative Political Action
>>> Conference (CPAC) with Bill Johnson,â  reads an email to an A3P member
>>> dated January 2011. â  Bill and I will be meeting with Ron and Ran Paul.
>>> I have a teleconference call with Bill (and Ron Paul) tonight. Much more
>>> later. Things are starting to happen (thanks to folks like you).â Â
>>>
>>> In another passage, Kelso, a former Scientologist and account owner of
>>> other German Nazi forums, wrote: â  Iâ  ll be at CPAC from Feb. 9 to
>>> Feb.
>>> 12.
>> Iâ  ll
>>> send back reports to you from personal meetings with Ron Paul,
>>> newly-elected Senator Rand Paul and many others. Itâ  ll be here on
>>> WhiteNewsNow, a place that is really starting to get interesting because
>>> of the presence of folks like you. Birds of a feather flock together, and
>>> we are really gathering some quality here.â Â
>>>
>>> Accusations of racism and ties to neo-Nazi interests have plagued Paul
>>> since the 1990s and have re-surfaced during this campaign. So far Paul
>>> has issued standard denials, claiming not to have been aware of the ties
>>> between his camp and the racist right and denied authorship of a series
>>> of racist newsletters, despite confirmation from his closest staff that
>>> Paul signed off on every detail.
>>> So whatâ  s Paulâ  s explanation now?
State's right predate the Nazi Party and Ron Paul. You know......back when we
were the United States. I doubt the "Neo-Nazis" will be running for offices
in Georgia in November. So that doesn't particularly bother me. Maybe it
bothers liberals. You seem to be going out your way to call as many people
racist as possible.

Sofa King

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Mar 1, 2012, 12:49:49 PM3/1/12
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Garrett wrote:

> On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 17:24:26 -0500, Sofa King <ro...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>
>>Joel Edge wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 3 Feb 2012 13:27:27 -0500, Sofa King wrote
>>> (in article <1622236.I...@127.0.0.1>):
>>>
>>>>
http://www.care2.com/causes/anonymous-hacks-neo-nazis-finds-ron-paul.html
>>>>
>>>> Well this just got interesting.
>>>>
>>>> The hacktivist collective Anonymous set out to take down the white
>>>> supremacist American Third Party (A3P) in what they called â??Operation
>>>> Blitzkriegâ?? but they may have done much more.
>>>>
>>>> In a document dump that includes private forum messages, emails,
>>>> organization notes another other information the group found numerous
>>>> connections between Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul and A3P.
>>>> According to the documents, all hosted here, Paul himself regularly met
>>>> with many A3P members, engaged in conference calls with their board of
>>>> directors and engaged in a â??bridging tacticâ?? between A3P and the
>>>> Ron Paul Revolution.
>>>>
>>>> Other excerpts show A3P webmaster Jamie Kelso (whose email account was
>>>> one hacked by the collective) coordinating meeting between Paul and
>>>> other members of A3P such as corporate lawyer and chairman of the
>>>> neo-Nazi group Paul. â??Iâ??m going to go to the Conservative Political
>>>> Action Conference (CPAC) with Bill Johnson,â?? reads an email to an A3P
>>>> member dated January 2011. â??Bill and I will be meeting with Ron and
>>>> Ran Paul. I have a teleconference call with Bill (and Ron Paul)
>>>> tonight. Much more later. Things are starting to happen (thanks to
>>>> folks like you).â??
>>>>
>>>> In another passage, Kelso, a former Scientologist and account owner of
>>>> other German Nazi forums, wrote: â??Iâ??ll be at CPAC from Feb. 9 to
>>>> Feb. 12.
>>> Iâ??ll
>>>> send back reports to you from personal meetings with Ron Paul,
>>>> newly-elected Senator Rand Paul and many others. Itâ??ll be here on
>>>> WhiteNewsNow, a place that is really starting to get interesting
>>>> because of the presence of folks like you. Birds of a feather flock
>>>> together, and we are really gathering some quality here.â??
>>>>
>>>> Accusations of racism and ties to neo-Nazi interests have plagued Paul
>>>> since the 1990s and have re-surfaced during this campaign. So far Paul
>>>> has issued standard denials, claiming not to have been aware of the
>>>> ties between his camp and the racist right and denied authorship of a
>>>> series of racist newsletters, despite confirmation from his closest
>>>> staff that Paul signed off on every detail.
>>>> So whatâ??s Paulâ??s explanation now?
> Why do you hate Germans ? The word "nazi" is a Jewish/Hebrew word
> meaning "German". Just like the Yiddish/Hebrew word Ashkenazi.
> Which means "our beloved in the land of Naz". Naz was the old
> Jewish word for that land now known as Germany.
>
> When WW2 started, our so-called journalists heard the Jews calling
> the German leaders "nazi" and they assumed it meant Hitler's Fascists.
> It didn't. It meant "this goddam Germans" -- which is what the Jews
> had always called them.
>
> Why demean a whole country by calling them the same thing Jews call
> them ?

should i call them the SS, then? or just white nationalist "oppressed white
male" dickbags who want to blame all of their problems on everybody but
themselves? i guess you might be the expert here on what scum racists
would prefer to be called?

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_each_letter_in_the_word_Nazi_stand_for

"The word Nazi is based on the first two syllables of the German word
Nationalialsozialist."

"The term 'Nazi' was in widespread use in Germany as a mildly derogatory
term in the early 1930s. It was inspired by the use of 'Sozi' for
socialists. (Compare with 'Commie' for 'Communist'). Rival gangs of young
kids in German school playgrounds in the early 1930s called
themselves 'Nazis' or 'Sozis' and fought one another."

and before you fling the tired "oh aren't you a commie?" pathetically
retarded comeback: the nazis were clearly fascists and authoritarians.
nobody like myself, who believes in democracy and free information is on
the side of racist scum who seek political power through scapegoating.

Sofa King

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Mar 1, 2012, 12:52:05 PM3/1/12
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Joel Edge wrote:

> On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 17:24:26 -0500, Sofa King wrote
> (in article <9534424.E...@127.0.0.1>):
>
>> Joel Edge wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 3 Feb 2012 13:27:27 -0500, Sofa King wrote
>>> (in article <1622236.I...@127.0.0.1>):
>>>
>>>>
http://www.care2.com/causes/anonymous-hacks-neo-nazis-finds-ron-paul.html
>>>>
>>>> Well this just got interesting.
>>>>
>>>> The hacktivist collective Anonymous set out to take down the white
>>>> supremacist American Third Party (A3P) in what they called
>>>> “Operation Blitzkrieg†but they may have done much more.
>>>>
>>>> In a document dump that includes private forum messages, emails,
>>>> organization notes another other information the group found numerous
>>>> connections between Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul and A3P.
>>>> According to the documents, all hosted here, Paul himself regularly met
>>>> with many A3P members, engaged in conference calls with their board of
>>>> directors and engaged in a “bridging tactic†between A3P and
>>>> the Ron
>>>> Paul Revolution.
>>>>
>>>> Other excerpts show A3P webmaster Jamie Kelso (whose email account was
>>>> one hacked by the collective) coordinating meeting between Paul and
>>>> other members of A3P such as corporate lawyer and chairman of the
>>>> neo-Nazi group Paul. “I’m going to go to the Conservative
>>>> Political Action Conference (CPAC) with Bill Johnson,†reads an
>>>> email to an A3P member dated January 2011. “Bill and I will be
>>>> meeting with Ron and Ran Paul. I have a teleconference call with Bill
>>>> (and Ron Paul) tonight. Much more later. Things are starting to happen
>>>> (thanks to folks like you).â€Â
>>>>
>>>> In another passage, Kelso, a former Scientologist and account owner of
>>>> other German Nazi forums, wrote: “I’ll be at CPAC from Feb. 9
we are talking about ron paul, dingbat. not the mayor of atlanta. get your
head out of your ass sometime. these neo-nazis are clearly trying to run
in elections and have been proved to have been working with the ron paul
campaign.
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Joel Edge

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Mar 2, 2012, 7:08:39 AM3/2/12
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On Thu, 1 Mar 2012 12:52:05 -0500, Sofa King wrote
(in article <3308486.t...@127.0.0.1>):

> Joel Edge wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 17:24:26 -0500, Sofa King wrote
>> (in article <9534424.E...@127.0.0.1>):
>>
>>> Joel Edge wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 3 Feb 2012 13:27:27 -0500, Sofa King wrote
>>>> (in article <1622236.I...@127.0.0.1>):
>>>>
>>>>>
> http://www.care2.com/causes/anonymous-hacks-neo-nazis-finds-ron-paul.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Well this just got interesting.
>>>>>
>>>>> The hacktivist collective Anonymous set out to take down the white
>>>>> supremacist American Third Party (A3P) in what they called
>>>>> à ¢à  à  Operation Blitzkriegà ¢à  à  but they may have done much
>>>>> more.
>>>>>
>>>>> In a document dump that includes private forum messages, emails,
>>>>> organization notes another other information the group found numerous
>>>>> connections between Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul and A3P.
>>>>> According to the documents, all hosted here, Paul himself regularly met
>>>>> with many A3P members, engaged in conference calls with their board of
>>>>> directors and engaged in a à ¢à  à  bridging tacticà ¢à  à Â
>>>>> between A3P and
>>>>> the Ron
>>>>> Paul Revolution.
>>>>>
>>>>> Other excerpts show A3P webmaster Jamie Kelso (whose email account was
>>>>> one hacked by the collective) coordinating meeting between Paul and
>>>>> other members of A3P such as corporate lawyer and chairman of the
>>>>> neo-Nazi group Paul. à ¢à  à  Ià ¢à  à  m going to go to the
>>>>> Conservative
>>>>> Political Action Conference (CPAC) with Bill Johnson,à ¢à  à  reads
>>>>> an
>>>>> email to an A3P member dated January 2011. à ¢à  à  Bill and I will be
>>>>> meeting with Ron and Ran Paul. I have a teleconference call with Bill
>>>>> (and Ron Paul) tonight. Much more later. Things are starting to happen
>>>>> (thanks to folks like you).à ¢à  à Â
>>>>>
>>>>> In another passage, Kelso, a former Scientologist and account owner of
>>>>> other German Nazi forums, wrote: à ¢à  à  Ià ¢à  à  ll be at CPAC
>>>>> from Feb. 9
>>>>> to Feb.
>>>>> 12.
>>>> Ià ¢à  à  ll
>>>>> send back reports to you from personal meetings with Ron Paul,
>>>>> newly-elected Senator Rand Paul and many others. Ità ¢à  à  ll be
>>>>> here on
>>>>> WhiteNewsNow, a place that is really starting to get interesting
>>>>> because of the presence of folks like you. Birds of a feather flock
>>>>> together, and we are really gathering some quality here.à ¢à  à Â
>>>>>
>>>>> Accusations of racism and ties to neo-Nazi interests have plagued Paul
>>>>> since the 1990s and have re-surfaced during this campaign. So far Paul
>>>>> has issued standard denials, claiming not to have been aware of the
>>>>> ties between his camp and the racist right and denied authorship of a
>>>>> series of racist newsletters, despite confirmation from his closest
>>>>> staff that Paul signed off on every detail.
>>>>> So whatà ¢à  à  s Paulà ¢à  à  s explanation now?
You brought up states rights. Before that, I pointed out that Republicans had
shunned a neo-nazi. You seem to be floundering around and trying to work in
talking points. In some obscure way, trying to tie Ron Paul, state rights,
neo nazis and republicans. The only people that worry about the nazis are
liberals. Generally trying to do what you tried to do. And failing miserably
But keep doing it. We need the Dem party to alienate more of the voting
public.

Sofa King

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Mar 2, 2012, 12:12:05 PM3/2/12
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Garrett wrote:

> On Thu, 01 Mar 2012 12:49:49 -0500, Sofa King <ro...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>
>>Garrett wrote:
>>
>
>>> Why do you hate Germans ? The word "nazi" is a Jewish/Hebrew word
>>> meaning "German". Just like the Yiddish/Hebrew word Ashkenazi.
>>> Which means "our beloved in the land of Naz". Naz was the old
>>> Jewish word for that land now known as Germany.
>>>
>>> When WW2 started, our so-called journalists heard the Jews calling
>>> the German leaders "nazi" and they assumed it meant Hitler's Fascists.
>>> It didn't. It meant "this goddam Germans" -- which is what the Jews
>>> had always called them.
>>>
>>> Why demean a whole country by calling them the same thing Jews call
>>> them ?
>>
>>should i call them the SS, then? or just white nationalist "oppressed
>>white male" dickbags who want to blame all of their problems on everybody
>>but
>>themselves? i guess you might be the expert here on what scum racists
>>would prefer to be called?
>
> I have no interest in what you call them. I'm opposed to stupidity
> no matter who displays it.
>
>>http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_each_letter_in_the_word_Nazi_stand_for
>>
>>"The word Nazi is based on the first two syllables of the German word
>>Nationalialsozialist."
>
> No it is not.
>
> That is the lie that the Jews

quick question: do you have a problem with jews?

> offered the stupid American journalists.
> They bought it.
>
> See for yourself. Look up the definition of Ashkenazi. "Ashke"
> means "Our beloved".....who live in the land of the Germans ---
> "Nazi".
>
> Have you ever heard the word nazi except in those two cases ? Learn,
> my friend. Don't be a fool all your life.

Sofa King

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Mar 2, 2012, 12:52:12 PM3/2/12
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Joel Edge wrote:

> On Thu, 1 Mar 2012 12:52:05 -0500, Sofa King wrote
> (in article <3308486.t...@127.0.0.1>):
>
>> Joel Edge wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 17:24:26 -0500, Sofa King wrote
>>> (in article <9534424.E...@127.0.0.1>):
>>>
>>>> Joel Edge wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 3 Feb 2012 13:27:27 -0500, Sofa King wrote
>>>>> (in article <1622236.I...@127.0.0.1>):
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>> http://www.care2.com/causes/anonymous-hacks-neo-nazis-finds-ron-paul.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well this just got interesting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The hacktivist collective Anonymous set out to take down the white
>>>>>> supremacist American Third Party (A3P) in what they called
>>>>>> “Operation Blitzkrieg†but they may have done
>>>>>> much more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In a document dump that includes private forum messages, emails,
>>>>>> organization notes another other information the group found numerous
>>>>>> connections between Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul and
>>>>>> A3P. According to the documents, all hosted here, Paul himself
>>>>>> regularly met with many A3P members, engaged in conference calls with
>>>>>> their board of directors and engaged in a “bridging
>>>>>> tactic†between A3P and
>>>>>> the Ron
>>>>>> Paul Revolution.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Other excerpts show A3P webmaster Jamie Kelso (whose email account
>>>>>> was one hacked by the collective) coordinating meeting between Paul
>>>>>> and other members of A3P such as corporate lawyer and chairman of the
>>>>>> neo-Nazi group Paul. “I’m going to go to the
>>>>>> Conservative
>>>>>> Political Action Conference (CPAC) with Bill Johnson,â€ÂÂ
>>>>>> reads an
>>>>>> email to an A3P member dated January 2011. “Bill and I
>>>>>> will be meeting with Ron and Ran Paul. I have a teleconference call
>>>>>> with Bill (and Ron Paul) tonight. Much more later. Things are
>>>>>> starting to happen (thanks to folks like you).â€ÂÂ
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In another passage, Kelso, a former Scientologist and account owner
>>>>>> of other German Nazi forums, wrote: “I’ll be at
>>>>>> CPAC from Feb. 9
>>>>>> to Feb.
>>>>>> 12.
>>>>> I’ll
>>>>>> send back reports to you from personal meetings with Ron Paul,
>>>>>> newly-elected Senator Rand Paul and many others. It’ll be
>>>>>> here on
>>>>>> WhiteNewsNow, a place that is really starting to get interesting
>>>>>> because of the presence of folks like you. Birds of a feather flock
>>>>>> together, and we are really gathering some quality here.â€ÂÂ
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Accusations of racism and ties to neo-Nazi interests have plagued
>>>>>> Paul since the 1990s and have re-surfaced during this campaign. So
>>>>>> far Paul has issued standard denials, claiming not to have been aware
>>>>>> of the ties between his camp and the racist right and denied
>>>>>> authorship of a series of racist newsletters, despite confirmation
>>>>>> from his closest staff that Paul signed off on every detail.
>>>>>> So what’s Paul’s explanation now?
you just said that you brought up republicans. you brought it up... i
commented on it.

> The only people that worry about the
> nazis are liberals.

yes, because scapegoating chickenshits like yourself think that it's okay to
be a scapegoating chickenshit. for instance: neo-nazis would probably call
any random middle easterner "hadji" and not feel bad at all about it. they
wouldn't have any problem with you.

> Generally trying to do what you tried to do. And
> failing miserably But keep doing it. We need the Dem party to alienate
> more of the voting public.

too bad i'm not a member of any organized party, clownshoes. that's just
you trying really hard to distract from the facts - ron paul was talking
directly with this racist neo-nazi scum.

Garrett

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On Fri, 02 Mar 2012 12:12:05 -0500, Sofa King <ro...@127.0.0.1> wrote:

>Garrett wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 01 Mar 2012 12:49:49 -0500, Sofa King <ro...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>
>>>Garrett wrote:
>>>
>>
>>>> Why do you hate Germans ? The word "nazi" is a Jewish/Hebrew word
>>>> meaning "German". Just like the Yiddish/Hebrew word Ashkenazi.
>>>> Which means "our beloved in the land of Naz". Naz was the old
>>>> Jewish word for that land now known as Germany.
>>>>
>>>> When WW2 started, our so-called journalists heard the Jews calling
>>>> the German leaders "nazi" and they assumed it meant Hitler's Fascists.
>>>> It didn't. It meant "this goddam Germans" -- which is what the Jews
>>>> had always called them.
>>>>
>>>> Why demean a whole country by calling them the same thing Jews call
>>>> them ?
>>>
>>>should i call them the SS, then? or just white nationalist "oppressed
>>>white male" dickbags who want to blame all of their problems on everybody
>>>but
>>>themselves? i guess you might be the expert here on what scum racists
>>>would prefer to be called?
>>
>> I have no interest in what you call them. I'm opposed to stupidity
>> no matter who displays it.
>>
>>>http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_each_letter_in_the_word_Nazi_stand_for
>>>
>>>"The word Nazi is based on the first two syllables of the German word
>>>Nationalialsozialist."

That would be "Nati". I've heard it described every way but the
right way.

>> That is the lie that the Jews
>
>quick question: do you have a problem with jews?

Does it matter ? Actually this subject has nothing to do with
anybody except fools who hear a word being used -- and pick it not
knowing what it means. Such as American journalists circa WW2.

Do you have a problem with Germans ? You are maligning them.

Joel Edge

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On Fri, 2 Mar 2012 12:52:12 -0500, Sofa King wrote
(in article <2527729.h...@127.0.0.1>):

> Joel Edge wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 1 Mar 2012 12:52:05 -0500, Sofa King wrote
>> (in article <3308486.t...@127.0.0.1>):
>>
>>> Joel Edge wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 17:24:26 -0500, Sofa King wrote
>>>> (in article <9534424.E...@127.0.0.1>):
>>>>
>>>>> Joel Edge wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 3 Feb 2012 13:27:27 -0500, Sofa King wrote
>>>>>> (in article <1622236.I...@127.0.0.1>):
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> http://www.care2.com/causes/anonymous-hacks-neo-nazis-finds-ron-paul.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well this just got interesting.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The hacktivist collective Anonymous set out to take down the white
>>>>>>> supremacist American Third Party (A3P) in what they called
>>>>>>> à  à ¢à  à  à  à  Operation Blitzkriegà  à ¢à  à  à  à Â
>>>>>>> but they may have done
>>>>>>> much more.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In a document dump that includes private forum messages, emails,
>>>>>>> organization notes another other information the group found numerous
>>>>>>> connections between Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul and
>>>>>>> A3P. According to the documents, all hosted here, Paul himself
>>>>>>> regularly met with many A3P members, engaged in conference calls with
>>>>>>> their board of directors and engaged in a
>>>>>>> à  à ¢à  à  à  à  bridging
>>>>>>> tacticà  à ¢à  à  à  à  between A3P and
>>>>>>> the Ron
>>>>>>> Paul Revolution.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Other excerpts show A3P webmaster Jamie Kelso (whose email account
>>>>>>> was one hacked by the collective) coordinating meeting between Paul
>>>>>>> and other members of A3P such as corporate lawyer and chairman of the
>>>>>>> neo-Nazi group Paul.
>>>>>>> à  à ¢à  à  à  à  Ià  à ¢à  à  à  à  m going to go to the
>>>>>>> Conservative
>>>>>>> Political Action Conference (CPAC) with Bill
>>>>>>> Johnson,à  à ¢à  à  à  à Â
>>>>>>> reads an
>>>>>>> email to an A3P member dated January 2011.
>>>>>>> à  à ¢à  à  à  à  Bill and I
>>>>>>> will be meeting with Ron and Ran Paul. I have a teleconference call
>>>>>>> with Bill (and Ron Paul) tonight. Much more later. Things are
>>>>>>> starting to happen (thanks to folks like you).à  à ¢à  à  à  à Â
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In another passage, Kelso, a former Scientologist and account owner
>>>>>>> of other German Nazi forums, wrote:
>>>>>>> à  à ¢à  à  à  à  Ià  à ¢à  à  à  à  ll be at
>>>>>>> CPAC from Feb. 9
>>>>>>> to Feb.
>>>>>>> 12.
>>>>>> Ià  à ¢à  à  à  à  ll
>>>>>>> send back reports to you from personal meetings with Ron Paul,
>>>>>>> newly-elected Senator Rand Paul and many others.
>>>>>>> Ità  à ¢à  à  à  à  ll be
>>>>>>> here on
>>>>>>> WhiteNewsNow, a place that is really starting to get interesting
>>>>>>> because of the presence of folks like you. Birds of a feather flock
>>>>>>> together, and we are really gathering some quality
>>>>>>> here.à  à ¢à  à  à  à Â
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Accusations of racism and ties to neo-Nazi interests have plagued
>>>>>>> Paul since the 1990s and have re-surfaced during this campaign. So
>>>>>>> far Paul has issued standard denials, claiming not to have been aware
>>>>>>> of the ties between his camp and the racist right and denied
>>>>>>> authorship of a series of racist newsletters, despite confirmation
>>>>>>> from his closest staff that Paul signed off on every detail.
>>>>>>> So whatà  à ¢à  à  à  à  s Paulà  à ¢à  à  à  à  s
I brought up Republicans because you seem to be trying to link a Republican
candidate to a neo-nazis. No surprise there. You been trying that for a
while. And throwing in various scary liberal words like 'states rights".

>
>> The only people that worry about the
>> nazis are liberals.
>
> yes, because scapegoating chickenshits like yourself think that it's okay to
> be a scapegoating chickenshit. for instance: neo-nazis would probably call
> any random middle easterner "hadji" and not feel bad at all about it. they
> wouldn't have any problem with you.

You've lost that one already. Try again.

>
>> Generally trying to do what you tried to do. And
>> failing miserably But keep doing it. We need the Dem party to alienate
>> more of the voting public.
>
> too bad i'm not a member of any organized party, clownshoes. that's just
> you trying really hard to distract from the facts - ron paul was talking
> directly with this racist neo-nazi scum.
>
>

Oh please. You have to be the biggest liberal/socialist/ big government
supporter by your posts. I know you like to see yourself as a 'libertarian'.
Your only fooling yourself. The timbre and content of your posts have given
that game away long ago.

Sofa King

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Mar 6, 2012, 12:49:29 PM3/6/12
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i guess only if you have the balls to answer.

> Actually this subject has nothing to do with
> anybody except fools who hear a word being used -- and pick it not
> knowing what it means. Such as American journalists circa WW2.
>
> Do you have a problem with Germans ?

no... i have a problem with whining white nationalists.

> You are maligning them.

how so? mentioning that nazis existed and that white nationalists
AKA "neo-nazis" have similar scapegoating and ideas for elimination of
races that they deem "impure"?

i don't think so, junior.

Sofa King

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Mar 6, 2012, 1:28:19 PM3/6/12
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Joel Edge wrote:

> On Fri, 2 Mar 2012 12:52:12 -0500, Sofa King wrote
> (in article <2527729.h...@127.0.0.1>):
>
>> Joel Edge wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 1 Mar 2012 12:52:05 -0500, Sofa King wrote
>>> (in article <3308486.t...@127.0.0.1>):
>>>
>>>> Joel Edge wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 17:24:26 -0500, Sofa King wrote
>>>>> (in article <9534424.E...@127.0.0.1>):
>>>>>
>>>>>> Joel Edge wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 3 Feb 2012 13:27:27 -0500, Sofa King wrote
>>>>>>> (in article <1622236.I...@127.0.0.1>):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
http://www.care2.com/causes/anonymous-hacks-neo-nazis-finds-ron-paul.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well this just got interesting.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The hacktivist collective Anonymous set out to take down the white
>>>>>>>> supremacist American Third Party (A3P) in what they called
>>>>>>>> “Operation
>>>>>>>> Blitzkrieg†but they may have done
>>>>>>>> much more.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In a document dump that includes private forum messages, emails,
>>>>>>>> organization notes another other information the group found
>>>>>>>> numerous connections between Republican presidential candidate Ron
>>>>>>>> Paul and A3P. According to the documents, all hosted here, Paul
>>>>>>>> himself regularly met with many A3P members, engaged in conference
>>>>>>>> calls with their board of directors and engaged in a
>>>>>>>> “bridging
>>>>>>>> tactic†between A3P and
>>>>>>>> the Ron
>>>>>>>> Paul Revolution.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Other excerpts show A3P webmaster Jamie Kelso (whose email account
>>>>>>>> was one hacked by the collective) coordinating meeting between Paul
>>>>>>>> and other members of A3P such as corporate lawyer and chairman of
>>>>>>>> the neo-Nazi group Paul.
>>>>>>>> “I’m going to go to
>>>>>>>> the Conservative
>>>>>>>> Political Action Conference (CPAC) with Bill
>>>>>>>> Johnson,â€ÂÂÂ
>>>>>>>> reads an
>>>>>>>> email to an A3P member dated January 2011.
>>>>>>>> “Bill and I
>>>>>>>> will be meeting with Ron and Ran Paul. I have a teleconference call
>>>>>>>> with Bill (and Ron Paul) tonight. Much more later. Things are
>>>>>>>> starting to happen (thanks to folks like
>>>>>>>> you).â€ÂÂÂ
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In another passage, Kelso, a former Scientologist and account owner
>>>>>>>> of other German Nazi forums, wrote:
>>>>>>>> “I’ll be at
>>>>>>>> CPAC from Feb. 9
>>>>>>>> to Feb.
>>>>>>>> 12.
>>>>>>> I’ll
>>>>>>>> send back reports to you from personal meetings with Ron Paul,
>>>>>>>> newly-elected Senator Rand Paul and many others.
>>>>>>>> It’ll be
>>>>>>>> here on
>>>>>>>> WhiteNewsNow, a place that is really starting to get interesting
>>>>>>>> because of the presence of folks like you. Birds of a feather flock
>>>>>>>> together, and we are really gathering some quality
>>>>>>>> here.â€ÂÂÂ
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Accusations of racism and ties to neo-Nazi interests have plagued
>>>>>>>> Paul since the 1990s and have re-surfaced during this campaign. So
>>>>>>>> far Paul has issued standard denials, claiming not to have been
>>>>>>>> aware of the ties between his camp and the racist right and denied
>>>>>>>> authorship of a series of racist newsletters, despite confirmation
>>>>>>>> from his closest staff that Paul signed off on every detail.
>>>>>>>> So what’s Paul’s
no dimwit. ANONYMOUS did that for everybody.... in fact they did not make
the link, they just made it public.

pic of ron paul with neo-nazi leader don black
http://img.ibtimes.com/www/data/images/full/2012/02/01/224388.jpg

Jamie Kelso and American Third Position Hacked and Destroyed; Private Emails
Expose Blatant Racism and Ties to Ron Paul

#ANONYMOUS #ANTIFASCIST #OPBLITZKRIEG #OCCUPYWALLSTREET #ANTISEC

DISCUSS ON PIRATEPAD OR IRC.ANONOPS.LI #OPBLITZKRIEG

Fellow anons: we are pleased to bring you the dismantling of a major
US-based white supremacist network known as the "American Third
Position"(A3P). These racist losers have chapters across the US, operate
several white power websites, forums and online stores, and are even
running a candidate in the 2012 elections. Although they try hard to
maintain a professional public image to camouflage their vile racism, we're
now airing all their dirty laundry all over the internet. Contained in this
major dump are several thousand private forum messages, personal emails,
internal organization notes, names, phone numbers, home addresses and other
information on all of their members and supporters. It’s time for these
cowardly suit and tie white supremacists to sleep with one eye open. Scared
much?

In addition to finding the usual racist rants and interactions with other
white power groups, we also found a disturbingly high amount of members who
are also involved in campaigning for Ron Paul. According to these messages,
Ron Paul has regularly met with many A3P members, even engaging in
conference calls with their board of directors as recent as XXXXXX. Ron
Paul's racist politics and affiliations are already well known, being
viciously anti-immigrant, anti-abortion and against gay marriage -- not to
mention having authored the racist "Ron Paul Papers" and receiving
financial support from other white power groups (pictured with Don Black
from stormfront.org). Hard to believe Ron Paul draws some support from the
left and the occupation movements, especially now that it is confirmed Ron
Paul hangs out with straight up racist hate groups.

We put extra effort in ruining the life of A3P webmaster Jamie Kelso. On top
of being on the board of directors of A3P, former $cientologist, and high
ranking Ron Paul organizer, he also is the account owner of german nazi
forums and store nsl-forum.org, rhs-versand.com. We went ahead and wiped
those websites off the internet as well, dumping private messages and order
information. Aside from us releasing his information such as his social
security number, address, resume and private discussions, we also heard
some folks went on a joyride with Kelso's credit card and made some lulzy
purchases, including sex toy purchases and making donations to the Anti
Defamation League and many others. Oops.

We call upon not only other antifascists but all those opposed to white
supremacy to utilize this information and make hell for these white
nationalist scumbags. It is essential if we wish to live in a world free
from oppression to expose and confront racists at their jobs, their
schools, at their homes and in the streets.

No Dialogue! No sympathy! Destroy White Supremacy!

> No surprise there. You been trying
> that for a while. And throwing in various scary liberal words like 'states
> rights".

"liberal words"? are you familiar with the federalist papers, you dolt?

>
>>
>>> The only people that worry about the
>>> nazis are liberals.
>>
>> yes, because scapegoating chickenshits like yourself think that it's okay
>> to
>> be a scapegoating chickenshit. for instance: neo-nazis would probably
>> call
>> any random middle easterner "hadji" and not feel bad at all about it.
>> they wouldn't have any problem with you.
>
> You've lost that one already. Try again.

no. you admit to barking hadji at people in the desert... you can't admit
it's racist. you lose for not being able to owe up to being just another
insensitive, uninformed, american soldier.

>
>>
>>> Generally trying to do what you tried to do. And
>>> failing miserably But keep doing it. We need the Dem party to alienate
>>> more of the voting public.
>>
>> too bad i'm not a member of any organized party, clownshoes. that's just
>> you trying really hard to distract from the facts - ron paul was talking
>> directly with this racist neo-nazi scum.
>>
>>
>
> Oh please. You have to be the biggest liberal/socialist/ big government
> supporter by your posts.

how so? perhaps you could point out one thing i suggest that the government
tell you to do inside your home that isn't for the safety of everybody?

you seem to be so anti-government that you'd be all for people just building
their own homes and doing their own wiring and gas piping without permits
or a license. all i have to do is favor democracy and having a government
and it's "big government" to your dumb ass.

> I know you like to see yourself as a
> 'libertarian'.

not really... i see myself as a progressive social democrat who favors
efficiency and compromise in government matters. i also am intelligent
enough to see that the dawn of the robber-barons back in the late 1800s and
corporations consistently taking more and more from the taxpayers and
giving less and less back to the government has destroyed the middle-class
and increased poverty. these people need to stop being rewarded for simply
being born ultra-rich, and they certainly don't deserve to control
political campaigns that keep everything either in a stasis or moving
toward less taxes for the rich and less government oversight of potential
environmentally detrimental operations.

> Your only fooling yourself. The timbre and content of your
> posts have given that game away long ago.

yes, dorothy... just repeat it and it will come true...

Joel Edge

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On Tue, 6 Mar 2012 13:28:19 -0500, Sofa King wrote
(in article <1879776.9...@127.0.0.1>):

> i see myself as a progressive social democrat who favors
> efficiency and compromise in government matters.

There ya go. That's the admission I've been waiting on. Was that so hard? So
you're not the libertarian that you claim. Good. Admitting your problem is
the first step in healing. It also might help if you now admit what Dem shill
organization you're working for.
Admitting your flaws will help you release the class envy and resentment of
other people.

"these people need to stop being rewarded for simply
being born ultra-rich,"

Might also help with those self-loathing anti-mommy/step-daddy issues. Do
they still have those horses?

"yes, dorothy... just repeat it and it will come true..."

Apparently it has.


Sofa King

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Joel Edge wrote:

> On Tue, 6 Mar 2012 13:28:19 -0500, Sofa King wrote
> (in article <1879776.9...@127.0.0.1>):
>
>> i see myself as a progressive social democrat who favors
>> efficiency and compromise in government matters.
>
> There ya go. That's the admission I've been waiting on. Was that so hard?
> So you're not the libertarian that you claim.

politics transcends the labels that you use idiot. there is not just one
label that fits everybody. the real world around you is much more complex
than your dumbed-down horse-blinder version...

hmm... let's see.

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Economic Left/Right: -5.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.67
http://www.politicalcompass.org/printablegraph?ec=-5.25&soc=-8.67

looks like you're wrong again, joel.

check out how awesome my choices for president are compared to my political
compass:
http://www.politicalcompass.org/crowdchart.php?showform=&Rick+Santorum=7%2C8.5%2C-115&Newt+Gingrich=8%2C7.5&Mitt+Romney=7%2C6.5%2C7%2C10&Ron+Paul=9%2C-1%2C10%2C10&Barack+Obama=6%2C6%2C-118%2C10&You=-5.25,-8.67

i DARE you to take that test and post your answers and results, joel.

> Good. Admitting your problem
> is the first step in healing. It also might help if you now admit what Dem
> shill organization you're working for.
> Admitting your flaws will help you release the class envy and resentment
> of other people.
>
> "these people need to stop being rewarded for simply
> being born ultra-rich,"
>
> Might also help with those self-loathing anti-mommy/step-daddy issues. Do
> they still have those horses?

self loathing? how is having parents who have hobbies an "issue"? i
already told you that we agree to disagree on most things. it's not a
fucking "issue", you dipshit.

>
> "yes, dorothy... just repeat it and it will come true..."
>
> Apparently it has.

your delusions don't count.

Joel Edge

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Mar 9, 2012, 8:09:00 AM3/9/12
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On Wed, 7 Mar 2012 16:35:34 -0500, Sofa King wrote
(in article <3580831.y...@127.0.0.1>):
My results are pretty much on view on a daily basis. I don't have to take a
test to tell me my views and positions. The fact that you did and proudly
announce it attests to your confusion.

>
>> Good. Admitting your problem
>> is the first step in healing. It also might help if you now admit what Dem
>> shill organization you're working for.
>> Admitting your flaws will help you release the class envy and resentment
>> of other people.
>>
>> "these people need to stop being rewarded for simply
>> being born ultra-rich,"
>>
>> Might also help with those self-loathing anti-mommy/step-daddy issues. Do
>> they still have those horses?
>
> self loathing? how is having parents who have hobbies an "issue"? i
> already told you that we agree to disagree on most things. it's not a
> fucking "issue", you dipshit.

Ahh...it's a hobby now. You've let go of the anger about those horses?

>
>>
>> "yes, dorothy... just repeat it and it will come true..."
>>
>> Apparently it has.
>
> your delusions don't count.
>
>

Your delusions are pretty much now on view. The jigs up.

Sofa King

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Mar 9, 2012, 12:50:31 PM3/9/12
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yes... that you are on par with douchebags who just happen to have the same
views about some things as some racist neocons do. that you bark "hadji"
at brown people unapologetically, you call seatbelt and helmet and dui
laws "nanny state" laws dreamed up by ONLY liberals without checking to see
who is introducing this legislation... yep.

> I don't have to take
> a test to tell me my views and positions.

i didn't either, but you have challenged my claims about eight million times
so i figured i'd provide some solid evidence. the next time you go
bleating about "what i am" and "what i believe" i'll reference this message
ID and quote the above questions/answers as needed.

> The fact that you did and
> proudly announce it attests to your confusion.

no. it attests to a little loudmouthed prick like yourself invisibly
claiming that i don't have libertarian views while at the same time
demonstrating that you completely misunderstand that libertarianism is just
one quality of a person's political attitude. everything is black and
white to dumbasses like yourself because like you, it is simple.

>
>>
>>> Good. Admitting your problem
>>> is the first step in healing. It also might help if you now admit what
>>> Dem shill organization you're working for.
>>> Admitting your flaws will help you release the class envy and resentment
>>> of other people.
>>>
>>> "these people need to stop being rewarded for simply
>>> being born ultra-rich,"
>>>
>>> Might also help with those self-loathing anti-mommy/step-daddy issues.
>>> Do they still have those horses?
>>
>> self loathing? how is having parents who have hobbies an "issue"? i
>> already told you that we agree to disagree on most things. it's not a
>> fucking "issue", you dipshit.
>
> Ahh...it's a hobby now. You've let go of the anger about those horses?

you need to stop with the armchair psychologist bit, dufus. does me
pointing out that you are a racist really make you this angry, that you
have to write your own melodrama about my life? pretty weird, joel.

>
>>
>>>
>>> "yes, dorothy... just repeat it and it will come true..."
>>>
>>> Apparently it has.
>>
>> your delusions don't count.
>>
>>
>
> Your delusions are pretty much now on view. The jigs up.

which "delusions" would those be? can you handle just providing some
examples, or was that just you trying to make another unfounded bullshit
claim?

Joel Edge

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Mar 11, 2012, 8:49:14 AM3/11/12
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On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 13:50:31 -0400, Sofa King wrote
(in article <1459536.v...@127.0.0.1>):
You've lost that one already, nothing new.

>
>> I don't have to take
>> a test to tell me my views and positions.
>
> i didn't either, but you have challenged my claims about eight million times
> so i figured i'd provide some solid evidence. the next time you go
> bleating about "what i am" and "what i believe" i'll reference this message
> ID and quote the above questions/answers as needed.

Solid evidence of what. That you're a liberal/socialist? The answers you've
provided certainly do that. You already admitted to it. You posting that test
was pointless. It shows what I already knew. The only thing you're post shows
is that you're confused and have to really on some test to tell you what you
are.

>
>> The fact that you did and
>> proudly announce it attests to your confusion.
>
> no. it attests to a little loudmouthed prick like yourself invisibly
> claiming that i don't have libertarian views while at the same time
> demonstrating that you completely misunderstand that libertarianism is just
> one quality of a person's political attitude. everything is black and
> white to dumbasses like yourself because like you, it is simple.

When the target is as two dimensional and simple as you are, it's not
difficult.

>
>>
>>>
>>>> Good. Admitting your problem
>>>> is the first step in healing. It also might help if you now admit what
>>>> Dem shill organization you're working for.
>>>> Admitting your flaws will help you release the class envy and resentment
>>>> of other people.
>>>>
>>>> "these people need to stop being rewarded for simply
>>>> being born ultra-rich,"
>>>>
>>>> Might also help with those self-loathing anti-mommy/step-daddy issues.
>>>> Do they still have those horses?
>>>
>>> self loathing? how is having parents who have hobbies an "issue"? i
>>> already told you that we agree to disagree on most things. it's not a
>>> fucking "issue", you dipshit.
>>
>> Ahh...it's a hobby now. You've let go of the anger about those horses?
>
> you need to stop with the armchair psychologist bit, dufus. does me
> pointing out that you are a racist really make you this angry, that you
> have to write your own melodrama about my life? pretty weird, joel.

You calling me a racist doesn't bother me. You've been doing it since you got
here. It's part of your extremely thin liberal debating style. Not that
uncommon with you folks.
Good to know that you're getting along with mommy and step-daddy now.
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