Re: Debunking Rudy's BS that first American slave owner was black

[Strom]

Rudy Canoza <notg...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:OQOXJ.60241$dln7...@fx03.iad:

> On 3/14/2022 1:25 PM, Scout wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Just Wondering" <J...@jw.com> wrote in message
>> news:0oKXJ.116339$LN2....@fx13.iad...
>>> On 3/14/2022 8:10 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>> https://www.aaihs.org/the-curious-history-of-anthony-johnson-from-ca
>>>> ptive-african-to-right-wing-talking-point/ It's a lie.  It's a lie
>>>> beloved by lying right-wingnut liars, but it's a lie.
>>>
>>> "What Difference At This Point Does It Make?!"  - Hiliary Klinton
>>
>> Hmm... so his source is what amounts to a blog.
>
> "a blog" — ha ha ha ha ha! That's a common right-wingnut whine.
>
> It's authoritative, scooter.

This is too.

https://digitalassets.lib.berkeley.edu/sfbagals/Coming_Up/1987_CU_Vol08_No
07_Apr.pdf


>>
>> https://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~arihuang/academic/abg/slavery/history.ht
>> ml
>
> This is *less than* a blog, scooter. It's something called "open
> computing facility," where anyone can post anything.

Like here on Usenet where you pollute things.

> Now:
>
> John Punch (fl. 1630s, living 1640) was an enslaved African who
> lived in the colony of Virginia. Thought to have been an
> indentured servant, Punch attempted to escape to Maryland and was
> sentenced in July 1640 by the Virginia Governor's Council to serve
> as a slave for the remainder of his life. Two European men who ran
> away with him received a lighter sentence of extended indentured
> servitude. For this reason, some historians consider John Punch
> the "first official slave in the English colonies," and his case
> as the "first legal sanctioning of lifelong slavery in the
> Chesapeake."
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Punch_(slave)
>
>
> This is where I say Point, Game, Set and Match, and hack scooter's
> head off.
>
> The first slave owner in the U.S. was not a black. This is settled.

That's correct to some degree as nobody really knows. The first slave
owners in the Americas were Spanish / Mexicans. Might as well be black
because they are just as ignorant as Democrats today, yourself included.

The first North American slave owners were were from Virgina, where slaves
stolen from Spanish slavers in Mexico were traded for food in 1619.

[Red Stone]

On 14 Mar 2022, Rudy Canoza <notg...@gmail.com> posted some
news:foPXJ.146223$7F2....@fx12.iad:

> On 3/14/2022 3:21 PM, Strom wrote:
>> Rudy Canoza <notg...@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:OQOXJ.60241$dln7...@fx03.iad:
>>
>>> On 3/14/2022 1:25 PM, Scout wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Just Wondering" <J...@jw.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:0oKXJ.116339$LN2....@fx13.iad...
>>>>> On 3/14/2022 8:10 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>> https://www.aaihs.org/the-curious-history-of-anthony-johnson-from-
>>>>>> ca ptive-african-to-right-wing-talking-point/ It's a lie.  It's
>>>>>> a lie beloved by lying right-wingnut liars, but it's a lie.
>>>>>
>>>>> "What Difference At This Point Does It Make?!"  - Hiliary Klinton
>>>>
>>>> Hmm... so his source is what amounts to a blog.
>>>
>>> "a blog" — ha ha ha ha ha! That's a common right-wingnut whine.
>>>
>>> It's authoritative, scooter.
>>
>> This is too.
>
>

> No, Blowjob, it isn't.

https://blackthen.com/was-the-first-slave-owner-in-america-was-a-black-
man/

>>
>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~arihuang/academic/abg/slavery/history.

>>>> ht ml
>>>
>>> This is *less than* a blog, scooter. It's something called "open
>>> computing facility," where anyone can post anything.
>>

>>> Now:
>>>
>>> John Punch (fl. 1630s, living 1640) was an enslaved African who
>>> lived in the colony of Virginia. Thought to have been an
>>> indentured servant, Punch attempted to escape to Maryland and
>>> was sentenced in July 1640 by the Virginia Governor's Council
>>> to serve as a slave for the remainder of his life. Two European
>>> men who ran away with him received a lighter sentence of
>>> extended indentured servitude. For this reason, some historians
>>> consider John Punch the "first official slave in the English
>>> colonies," and his case as the "first legal sanctioning of
>>> lifelong slavery in the Chesapeake."
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Punch_(slave)
>>>
>>>
>>> This is where I say Point, Game, Set and Match, and hack scooter's
>>> head off.
>>>
>>> The first slave owner in the U.S. was not a black. This is settled.
>>
>> That's correct to some degree as nobody really knows.
>

> No, we do know, Blowjob. The first slave owners in the colonies were
> white. This is not in rational dispute.

That doesn't support your claim that they were Americans. A lot of French
and Dutch settled in America, they didn't consider themselves Americans.