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Ken (NY]
Dateline: Hazel Park, MI - 7/30/2002
BY HUGH MCDIARMID JR., LAURA POTTS AND BILL LAITNER
DETROIT FREE PRESS STAFF WRITERS
The 900 block of East Jarvis was a familiar run for Hazel Park police.
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About a half-dozen times since 1999, officers had rolled in response
to calls about the steelworker with the bad temper, but it never
amounted to much -- not even an arrest, said Police Chief David
Niedermeier.
Sunday night was just another neighbors' spat on East Jarvis. And even
though Officer Jessica Wilson called for backup as she stopped her
scout car, there was no reason to expect a complaint about walking a
dog without a leash to turn into a shotgun ambush.
Wilson, 26, was approaching the steelworker's porch when he fired a
shotgun blast of No. 6 birdshot into her neck, just above her
bulletproof vest, police said.
The man was identified by neighbors as Hans-George Hofe, 42.
Robin Hand, who lives next door, rushed from her house to see Wilson
on the ground between the sidewalk and the street, crying out, "Help
me! Help me!"
A firefighter who lives two doors away ran to Wilson's aid, but she
died at the scene.
As she fell, Wilson fired back once, hitting Hofe in the abdomen.
He was in serious condition Monday night at Beaumont Hospital in Royal
Oak.
Oakland County Deputy Prosecutor James Halushka said that a murder
warrant could be issued as early as today.
Russell Winger, a Jarvis Street resident, said that a friend, who did
not want to be identified, reported Hofe to police.
That man was on a porch with a woman when Hofe walked by Sunday night
with his unleashed black Labrador retriever. The woman told Hofe that
Hazel Park has leash laws for dogs, and Hofe threatened her.
"He said, 'I'm going to kill you -- and whoever comes to my property
I'm going to kill them,' " Winger said.
The man called police. Shortly after, gunfire was heard.
Niedermeier said Wilson responded alone to the report. Other officers
were on their way to back her up, he said.
Police had a half-dozen encounters with Hofe but never arrested him,
the chief said. No one expected Sunday night's call to be
life-threatening.
Niedermeier said the killing stunned the other 37 members of the
department. "This is a senseless shooting," he said. "There's no
reason or rhyme for this. The value for life today is pathetic. If
someone's lying in wait for you, there's no way to prepare for it."
Neighbors said that Hofe, who lives in the 900 block of East Jarvis,
was a neighborhood agitator who lost his job as a steelworker more
than a year ago. They described him as a heavy drinker with many
personal problems.
Hand said she and her husband, Don, "were never in any concern of him
injuring our kids." But when Hofe was in the backyard drinking, Hand
said her young daughters "knew not to play back there."
Hand said Hofe, who had lived in the house for about 20 years and
usually kept to himself, "wasn't vicious or mean." But he did get
agitated when neighbors wouldn't engage in conversation with him.
On one of those occasions, Hand called police after she said Hofe
yelled at her, "You're playing with fire. You'll get burned. You don't
know who you're dealing with."
Sam Semma, owner of the neary Marinco party store, said Hofe was a
regular customer. He sometimes bought rum or vodka, Semma said, and
occasionally would bring his dog and buy sausage to give her.
Then Hofe lost his job and girlfriend.
"He was so mad about it," Semma said.
Wilson's death was the first fatal police shooting in Hazel Park's
52-year history, Mayor Ben Colley said, his voice cracking with
fatigue after a night of little sleep.
Wilson had been working a 12-hour shift alone in her patrol car.
That's not an unusual schedule among suburban departments, said
William Dwyer, Farmington Hills police chief and past president of the
Michigan Association of Chiefs of Police.
As officers from surrounding communities converged Monday on Hazel
Park's police station to offer condolences, Officer Bryan McNair shook
his head. "Life's too short, way too short," he said.
Residents in the close-knit community of 18,963 residents were
saddened.
"Everybody knows each other around here," said Barbara Kalopelesis,
65, a 45-year resident, who had seen Wilson on patrol.
Mildred Miller, who lives two houses down from Hofe, said she heard
Wilson screaming for help moments before she fell silent.
"I felt so sorry for her," said Miller. "I cried when she died."
Visitation for Officer Wilson -- who is survived by her husband,
parents, a brother and a sister -- will be 5-9 p.m. Thursday and 1-8
p.m. Friday at D.S. Temrowski & Sons Funeral Home, 30009 Hoover Road,
Warren. A funeral service will be held at 11 a.m. Saturday at Bethesda
Christian Church, 14000 Metro Parkway, Sterling Heights.
Flowers and contributions can be sent to the Jessica Nagle Wilson
Charitable Foundation, Hazel Park Police Department, 111 E. Nine Mile,
Hazel Park 48030.
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Ken (NY)
Chairman,
Department Of Redundancy Department
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DJ
>family
Losing a son *is* a death in the family. Ken, you and I have learned how to
avoid arguements and get along, but I do have to tell you that since this
morning with your article about turning to the police for help to die, I have
been more then a little on edge. Normally I would've responded to this post
with more compassion but I am having trouble finding it today. What happened
to this Officer is horrifying, but I get the feeling today that you don't see
the other side of things. This article states that this poor officer cried for
help....Well my son gasped for air in the driveway of my home, while no one
helped him and his family was denied any access to comfort or aid him. He died
alone while his family was less than 30 ft from him. My son bled to death in
the driveway while an ambulance took 23 minutes to go 6.33 miles. I drove it
in 8 minutes without lights and siren. I try very hard to see your side of
things and be compassionate. I sure wish I felt like you did too.
DJ
"The gravest abuse of power - and the gravest threats to personal liberty and
security - are those in which the very individuals to whom we look for the
preservation of law and order turn out to be the predators."
d...@cheetah.net
>>Losing policewoman is like a death in the
>>family
>
>Losing a son *is* a death in the family. Ken, you and I have learned how to
>avoid arguements and get along, but I do have to tell you that since this
>morning with your article about turning to the police for help to die, I have
>been more then a little on edge. Normally I would've responded to this post
>with more compassion but I am having trouble finding it today. What happened
>to this Officer is horrifying, but I get the feeling today that you don't see
>the other side of things. This article states that this poor officer cried for
>help....Well my son gasped for air in the driveway of my home, while no one
>helped him and his family was denied any access to comfort or aid him. He died
>alone while his family was less than 30 ft from him. My son bled to death in
>the driveway while an ambulance took 23 minutes to go 6.33 miles. I drove it
>in 8 minutes without lights and siren. I try very hard to see your side of
>things and be compassionate. I sure wish I felt like you did too.
>
>
> DJ
>
What utter bullshit, to attempt to include yourself
in that scheme of a tragedy. You son had choices all
the way, he used his free will and checked out from
remaining among the living and performing his duty
as a father. But he chose to die and got someone
else to do the deed.
DCI
DJ
>in that scheme of a tragedy.
This wasn't posted to you and I would appreciated if you would mind your own
damned business Donn. I will *not* discuss my son with you....not now, not
ever.
Debbie
>From: d...@cheetah.net
>Date: 7/30/2002 9:44 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: <iijekukineotr0csp...@4ax.com>
You couldn't leave things alone, could you Donn? You just HAD to take another
jab at her family, didn't you? That's just fine, we'll do this your way BUT
don't start the "poor, poor, pitiful me" routine when the going gets rough.
Debbie
I keep my ideals, because in spite of everything, I still believe that people
are really good at heart.
-Anne Frank
DJ
>another
>jab at her family, didn't you? That's just fine, we'll do this your way BUT
>don't start the "poor, poor, pitiful me" routine when the going gets rough.
>
>Debbie
He has no idea just how rough things will get if he doesn't knock off that
jabbing garbage.
Ken (NY]
unmitigated audacity to write:
>>Losing policewoman is like a death in the
>>family
>
>Losing a son *is* a death in the family. Ken, you and I have learned how to
>avoid arguements and get along, but I do have to tell you that since this
>morning with your article about turning to the police for help to die, I have
>been more then a little on edge. Normally I would've responded to this post
>with more compassion but I am having trouble finding it today. What happened
>to this Officer is horrifying, but I get the feeling today that you don't see
>the other side of things. This article states that this poor officer cried for
>help....Well my son gasped for air in the driveway of my home, while no one
>helped him and his family was denied any access to comfort or aid him. He died
>alone while his family was less than 30 ft from him. My son bled to death in
>the driveway while an ambulance took 23 minutes to go 6.33 miles. I drove it
>in 8 minutes without lights and siren. I try very hard to see your side of
>things and be compassionate. I sure wish I felt like you did too.
Then maybe you ought to write the family of the dead female
police officer and her fellow cops, and tell them about your views
that her murder doesn't matter as much as your loss does. That was
rather cruel of you to attempt to ridicule their loss. In fact, I can
hardly believe you wrote the above.
And I didn't post either article with you or anyone personally
in mind.
Ken (NY)
Chairman,
Department Of Redundancy Department
____________________________________
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There are three simple rules for becoming
a perfect cop, respected by friend or foe.
Unfortunately no one knows what they are.
DJ
>police officer and her fellow cops, and tell them about your views
>that her murder doesn't matter as much as your loss does. That was
>rather cruel of you to attempt to ridicule their loss. In fact, I can
>hardly believe you wrote the above.
> And I didn't post either article with you or anyone personally
>in mind.
>
>Ken (NY)
Ken, if I came across as trying to trivialize or ridicule her death, that was
not my intention. You know me better then that. No one deserves to be
murdered, not her and not my son. Everytime I hear about *anyone* getting
murdered it makes me heart ache. I can feel the families pain, more then most
people could, having been there myself. I felt as though your post trivialized
and ridiculed Davids death and if that was not your intention, I apologize, but
please try to understand where this is coming from.
d...@cheetah.net
When you let the woman play cyber
kissy face with you, Ken, what did
you actually expect? Placating will
not work.
DCI
d...@cheetah.net
>> Then maybe you ought to write the family of the dead female
>>police officer and her fellow cops, and tell them about your views
>>that her murder doesn't matter as much as your loss does. That was
>>rather cruel of you to attempt to ridicule their loss. In fact, I can
>>hardly believe you wrote the above.
>> And I didn't post either article with you or anyone personally
>>in mind.
>>
>>Ken (NY)
>
>
>Ken, if I came across as trying to trivialize or ridicule her death, that was
>not my intention. You know me better then that. No one deserves to be
>murdered, not her and not my son. Everytime I hear about *anyone* getting
>murdered it makes me heart ache. I can feel the families pain, more then most
>people could, having been there myself. I felt as though your post trivialized
>and ridiculed Davids death and if that was not your intention, I apologize, but
>please try to understand where this is coming from.
>
>
> DJ
>
You're backing peddling and bullshitting
at the same time.
DCI
d...@cheetah.net
>>Losing policewoman is like a death in the
>>family
>
>Losing a son *is* a death in the family. Ken, you and I have learned how to
>avoid arguements and get along, but I do have to tell you that since this
>morning with your article about turning to the police for help to die, I have
>been more then a little on edge. Normally I would've responded to this post
>with more compassion but I am having trouble finding it today. What happened
>to this Officer is horrifying, but I get the feeling today that you don't see
>the other side of things. This article states that this poor officer cried for
>help....Well my son gasped for air in the driveway of my home, while no one
>helped him and his family was denied any access to comfort or aid him. He died
>alone while his family was less than 30 ft from him. My son bled to death in
>the driveway while an ambulance took 23 minutes to go 6.33 miles. I drove it
>in 8 minutes without lights and siren. I try very hard to see your side of
>things and be compassionate. I sure wish I felt like you did too.
>
>
> DJ
>
What utter bullshit, to attempt to include yourself
in that scheme of a greater tragedy. Your son made
choices all the way, he used his "free will" and
checked out from remaining among the living and/or
performing his duties as a father and parent. But
he chose to die and got someone else to do the deed.
Then along comes DJ trying to get his acts leading
to his own demise included with the acts of cold
blooded killers of law enforcement officers. You
again reach the all time low by trying to suggest
such a parity in life and death. The pipes and flags
draped over those caskets does not begin to describe
the grief, anger and dismay of those loved ones and
peers left behind after their lives were taken in
the line of duty. Officers swear to uphold the laws
of the land and Constitution. Your son, while loved
dearly by your, was one of those individuals that
law enforcement had to deal with over a period of
time.
DCI
DJ
>dearly
>DCI
Yes, he was and leave my family out of your posts entirely Donn. I am not
kidding.
DJ
>kissy face with you, Ken, what did
>you actually expect? Placating will
>not work.
>
>DCI
Leave it to you to make something out of nothing again. You're disgusting
Donn.
DJ
>at the same time.
>
>DCI
>
Whatever you say, you filthy minded old man.
d...@cheetah.net
>>Your son, while loved
>>dearly
>
>>DCI
>
>Yes, he was and leave my family out of your posts entirely Donn. I am not
>kidding.
>
> DJ
>
And?
DCI
onthe_coast
I read Ken's story, what does it have to do with you DJ? This group
is not just for you and your story of police abuse!
FUQIT .
d...@cheetah.net
>Did you ever get to see that web site that they made for you yet DCI? I
>was just curious as to how that was coming along.
It should be a gem.
Many years ago I was interviewed for a
position in the organization where I had
worked for about 7 years. One of the
questions I was asked, "Do you have any
skeletons in your closet." My answer got
me the position: "I don't know about
skeletons, but you'll find a lot of bones
and your free to make any kind of a skeleton
you like."
DCI
Debbie
>Message-id: <4tmqlug7gntpkloqe...@4ax.com>
>
>On 10 Aug 2002 04:35:59 GMT, inthed...@aol.com (DJ) wrote:
>
>>>>What's REALLY bothering you, Donn? It's not DJ or her son...she's just
>>>someone
>>>>you ran across on a newsgroup, and you never even knew David.
>>>>
>>>>DAVID....the name DAVID....is that it, Donn? Did your David disappoint
>>>>you....40 something years old and still living in "Daddy's" house...
>>>>
>>>>Debbie
>>>
>>>You are taking some really bad drugs. And now you
>>>are once again "high" and acting like a spokesperson
>>>when you are not addressed.
>>>
>>>Go sit down.
>>>
>>>DCI
>>
>>I think she has a really good point Donn. Why is it that you seem to take
>me
>>and my son's lives so personally? It's really quite odd that you get so
>into
>>someone that you have never even met. BTW, Why *does* David live in a house
>>that you own?
>>
>>
>>
>> DJ
>>
>
>Curiosity abounds. You unfortunately have your
>facts wrong as does your bunky buddy. You've
>been advised to get names correct. To date,
>you've neither got the facts straight nor the
>names correct.
>
>Now go back to your seat.
>
>DCI
>
Oh, we have the facts and the names straight....Won't me to prove it? I think
I'll just do that.
FUQIT .
think
I'll just do that.
Debbie
=====================================
BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Yeah debbie. I " Won't " you to prove it. If you weren't so angry
you might be able to say what you really " won't " to.
DJ
>think
>I'll just do that.
>
>Debbie
>
Would you mind waiting on that for a week or two?
DJ
>
>Yeah debbie. I " Won't " you to prove it. If you weren't so angry
>you might be able to say what you really " won't " to.
Actually, when she talks with that Texas accent, it sounds like she is saying
won't instead of want. Our grand daughter loves to listen to her talk. She
walks around speaking with a Texas accent for days after talking to Deb.
(Sorry Deb, had to tease you just a little! You know that I love you) =)
Debbie
>Date: 8/22/2002 9:32 AM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: <1082-3D6...@storefull-2331.public.lawson.webtv.net>
So I made a mistake BFD...WANT...there, is that better?
Debbie
>Date: 8/22/2002 10:54 AM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: <20020822115447...@mb-fi.aol.com>
>
>>BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
>>
>>Yeah debbie. I " Won't " you to prove it. If you weren't so angry
>>you might be able to say what you really " won't " to.
>
>
>Actually, when she talks with that Texas accent, it sounds like she is saying
>won't instead of want. Our grand daughter loves to listen to her talk. She
>walks around speaking with a Texas accent for days after talking to Deb.
>(Sorry Deb, had to tease you just a little! You know that I love you) =)
>
>
> DJ
>
what I'm saying....HEY...I've got your entire family using the term SWAMP
DADDY!
Debbie
>Message-id: <20020822115118...@mb-fi.aol.com>
>
>>Oh, we have the facts and the names straight....Won't me to prove it? I
>>think
>>I'll just do that.
>>
>>Debbie
>>
>
>
>Would you mind waiting on that for a week or two?
>
>
> DJ
Not even an itsy bitsy bit of proof???
d...@cheetah.net
Go ahead, your game.
DCI
DJ
>what I'm saying....HEY...I've got your entire family using the term SWAMP
>DADDY!
>
>Debbie
Yes, we *do* all say Swamp daddy now. Did you know that my grand daughter
loves to put her ear up to the other side of the phone while I am talking to
you to hear you talking? She is enchanted with that accent. = )
DJ
>
>Debbie
>
Ohhhh...Alright, but leave Dexter out of it, okay?
DJ
>
>DCI
No, little darlin', it's been your game all along. I have repeatedly asked you
to leave my family alone and you refuse. It's always been your game. We just
haven't been as ruthless as you have been. Hey, Did you hear where Deb went on
vacation? I told her when she called me from there, that she should stop and
visit while she was in the neighborhood.
d...@cheetah.net
>>Go ahead, your game.
>>
>>DCI
>
>No, little darlin', it's been your game all along. I have repeatedly asked you
>to leave my family alone and you refuse. It's always been your game. We just
>haven't been as ruthless as you have been. Hey, Did you hear where Deb went on
>vacation? I told her when she called me from there, that she should stop and
>visit while she was in the neighborhood.
>
>
> DJ
>
Good for her.
DCI
Debbie
>Date: 8/22/2002 3:04 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: <20020822160445...@mb-mi.aol.com>
>
>>Not even an itsy bitsy bit of proof???
>>
>>Debbie
>>
>
>Ohhhh...Alright, but leave Dexter out of it, okay?
>
>
> DJ
>
You got a deal..
DJ
>Good for her.
>
>DCI
>
>
I'm sure you would've made sure that she had a nice dinner in your home, and
some pleasant conversation. = )
DJ
>>
>>
>> DJ
>>
>
>You got a deal..
>
>Debbie
I knew I could count on you. = )
d...@cheetah.net
>>
>>Good for her.
>>
>>DCI
>>
>>
>
>I'm sure you would've made sure that she had a nice dinner in your home, and
>some pleasant conversation. = )
>
>
> DJ
>
But of course, and then . . .
DCI
DJ
>
>DCI
Heck, I don't know....maybe you could've shared pictures of cute grandkids or
something. You know....normal stuff.
Debbie
>Message-id: <20020824015814...@mb-mt.aol.com>
>
>>But of course, and then . . .
>>
>>DCI
>
>Heck, I don't know....maybe you could've shared pictures of cute grandkids or
>something. You know....normal stuff.
>
>
>
> DJ
>
Do you remember Richard and Karen Carpenter? They recorded a bunch of hit
songs back in the 70's..."Close to You", 'We've Only Just Begun", "Rainy Days
and Mondays"....to name a few......ANYWAY...they were from Downey...
DJ
>songs back in the 70's..."Close to You", 'We've Only Just Begun", "Rainy Days
>and Mondays"....to name a few......ANYWAY...they were from Downey...
>
>Debbie
Really? I didn't know that. Donn plays guitar. Downey must have something in
the water, to produce such musical talent. Tim plays in a band too. Sounds
like music just runs rampant in the veins of the Irving family. I'm
embarrassed to admit that I can''t even carry a tune.