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July 22 1977 Chief Justice Warren E. Burger said HALF of US trial attorneys unqualified

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Greegor

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Dec 11, 2009, 6:27:15 PM12/11/09
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Can anybody obtain Chief Justice Warren E. Burger's
exact words presented in London on July 22 1977
before the Royal Commission on Legal Services?

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1129&dat=19780213&id=I90NAAAAIBAJ&sjid=M20DAAAAIBAJ&pg=4208,1715944

Pittsburgh Post-Gazette Monday Feb 13, 1978 Page 4 halfway down on
left side

Burger Urges trial Lawyers' Ability Exam

--------------------------------------------------------------

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1350&dat=19780213&id=uAkVAAAAIBAJ&sjid=cgIEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6947,2554371

The Blade, Toledo, Ohio Monday Feb 13, 1978 Page 3, upper left corner

ABA Convention Speech
Burger Asks Competence Tests for Trial Lawyers

New Orleans (AP) Chief Justice Warren Burger, already under fire for
questioning the competence of half the nation's trial lawyers
esclaated his attack Sunday by declaring that all lawyers should have
to earn the right to appear in court.
Calling trial lawyer incompetence "one of the most serious problems
facing our profession," Justice burger told the American Bar
Association convention.
[...]

The ABA's governing body will consider a resolution this week
from the Illionois bar Association demanding that Justice Burger
either "publicly repudiate" comments that he made last July about
trial lawyer incompetence or provide proof of their accuracy.

The resolution was sparked by testimony that Justice Burger gave to
the Royal Commission on Legal Services in London in which he estimated
that one half of U.S. trial lawyers are unqualified to represent their
clients.

[ ABA countered with a figure of 20% ! ]

[ So on July 22 of 1977, in London, before the Royal Commission on
Legal Services Chief Justice Warren Burger said half are not
qualified! ]

Greegor

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Dec 12, 2009, 12:19:12 PM12/12/09
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1977 Chief Justice Burger on incompetent trial lawyers

July 22 1977 in London England, before the Royal
Commission on Legal Services, U.S. Chief Justice
Warren E. Burger said HALF of US trial attorneys
are unqualified. [ Seeking the exact text of this speech! ]

Can anybody find an ONLINE source of this text?

I found more evidence of the ABA's hysterical
REACTION to the speech than to the speech itself!

LOL

Greg Hanson in Cedar Rapids, Iowa

If I can't find an ONLINE text of this speech,
I'll have to go to his LIBRARY in Minnesota,
or to the Library of Congress.

-------------------------------------------------


On Feb 12 1978 Burger did a "State of the Judiciary" address
at the ABA convention in New Orleans. He referred to his
London comments the previous July. The ABA membership
became QUITE upset and began to "circle their wagons".

On Feb 13 some in the ABA tried to start a resolution
demanding that Burger retract his July comments
about incompetent lawyers, and the ABA countered
by saying that only 20% of US trial attorneys are
incompetent. ( ! )

[ As if 20% is not so bad????? ]


On Sunday Feb 12th, 1978 Chief Justice Warren E. Burger
addressed the American Bar Associaation in New Orleans.
State of Judiciary speech made a statement about trial lawyer
incompetence and called for trial lawyers proficiency test.


CBS Sunday Feb 12, 1978 Burger / New Orleans Speech 02:00 256344

http://tvnews.vanderbilt.edu/tvn-displayfullbroadcast.pl

02/12/1978 05:25:40 pm-05:27:40 pm Sunday CBS

(Studio) Chief Justice Warren Burger's address to American Bar
Association in New Orleans, Louisiana, noted.
REPORTER: Morton Dean

(New Orleans, Louisiana) Controversy over Burger's
State of Judiciary speech cited; exclusion of media
noted. Details of Burger's speech with regard to
Illinois and New Jersey bar assns. given; Burger's
statement on lawyer incompetence noted.
[Carole BELLOWS - cites attitude toward Burger's
statement.] [Griffin BELL - discusses complication
of issue.] Burger's request for lawyer proficiency
test noted. Vote on Burger by ABA's house of
delegates cited.
REPORTER: Fred Graham
CBS Evening News for
Sunday, Feb 12, 1978

---------------------------------------------------

http://tvnews.vanderbilt.edu/program.pl?ID=256344

Headline: Burger / New Orleans Speech
Abstract: (Studio) Chief Justice Warren Burger's
address to American Bar Association in New
Orleans, Louisiana, noted.
REPORTER: Morton Dean

(New Orleans, Louisiana) Controversy over Burger's
State of Judiciary speech cited; exclusion of media
noted. Details of Burger's speech with regard to
Illinois and New Jersey bar assns. given; Burger's
statement on lawyer incompetence noted.
[Carole BELLOWS - cites attitude toward Burger's
statement.] [Griffin BELL - discusses
complication of issue.] Burger's request for
lawyer proficiency test noted. Vote on Burger
by ABA's house of delegates cited.
REPORTER: Fred Graham

http://tvnews.vanderbilt.edu/program.pl?ID=497438

NBC Evening News for
Monday, Feb 13, 1978

------------------------------------------

Headline: American Bar Association / Burger
and United States Attorneys' Competence
Abstract: (Studio) Supreme Court Chief Justice
Warren Burger's stated belief re: incompetency
of United States trial attys. mentioned.
American Bar Association reaction and proposed
resolution with regard to statement, made at
New Orleans conv., reported.
REPORTER: David Brinkley

(New Orleans, Louisiana) American Bar
Association debate with regard to Burger's
statement and own proposed resolution that
he either prove or retract it detailed. [Kentucky
attorney William RUMMAGE - thinks Burger
should acknowledge indiscretion.] [DC
attorney Lee LOEVINGER - thinks work
should be done to increase competence of
attys., not start fight with Burger.] [Illinois
attorney Barnabas SEARS - thinks
resolution monstrous; cites reasons for
defense of Burger.] [MAN - takes vote;
announces resolution's failure.] Burger's
statement to reporter after vote on
resolution quoted.
REPORTER: Carl Stern

Search: Search Vanderbilt Television
News Archive for additional items:
Program Time: 05:40:30 pm -
05:42:50 pm. Duration: 02:20
Reporters: Brinkley, David; Stern, Carl
Link to this page

http://tvnews.vanderbilt.edu/program.pl?ID=497438

Broadcast Type: Evening News Segment Type: News Content
Context:
Record Number: 497438


http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1350&dat=19780213&id=uAkVAAAAIBAJ&sjid=cgIEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6947,2554371

The Blade, Toledo, Ohio Monday Feb 13, 1978 Page 3, upper left corner

ABA Convention Speech
Burger Asks Competence Tests for Trial Lawyers

New Orleans (AP) Chief Justice Warren Burger, already under fire for
questioning the competence of half the nation's trial lawyers
esclaated his attack Sunday by declaring that all lawyers should have
to earn the right to appear in court.
Calling trial lawyer incompetence "one of the most serious problems
facing our profession," Justice burger told the American Bar
Association convention.


[...]


The ABA's governing body will consider a resolution this week
from the Illionois bar Association demanding that Justice Burger
either "publicly repudiate" comments that he made last July about
trial lawyer incompetence or provide proof of their accuracy.

The resolution was sparked by testimony that Justice Burger gave to
the Royal Commission on Legal Services in London in which he estimated
that one half of U.S. trial lawyers are unqualified to represent their
clients.

[ ABA countered with a figure of 20% ]

[ So on July 22 of 1977, in London, before the Royal Commission on
Legal Services Chief Justice Warren Burger said half are not
qualified! ]


http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1129&dat=19780213&id=I90NAAAAIBAJ&sjid=M20DAAAAIBAJ&pg=4208,1715944

Pittsburgh Post-Gazette Monday Feb 13, 1978 Page 4 halfway down on
left side

Burger Urges trial Lawyers' Ability Exam

New Orleans (AP) Chief Justice Warren E. Burger,

Kent Wills

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Dec 12, 2009, 12:37:49 PM12/12/09
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On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 09:19:12 -0800 (PST), Greegor
<gree...@gmail.com> wrote:

>1977 Chief Justice Burger on incompetent trial lawyers
>
>July 22 1977 in London England, before the Royal
>Commission on Legal Services, U.S. Chief Justice
>Warren E. Burger said HALF of US trial attorneys
>are unqualified. [ Seeking the exact text of this speech! ]
>
>Can anybody find an ONLINE source of this text?
>
>I found more evidence of the ABA's hysterical
>REACTION to the speech than to the speech itself!
>
>LOL
>
>Greg Hanson in Cedar Rapids, Iowa

Twice convicted wife beater and child abuser.

>
>If I can't find an ONLINE text of this speech,
>I'll have to go to his LIBRARY in Minnesota,
>or to the Library of Congress.

[...]

If only you could afford either trip.
I do recall that years ago, Ken Smith linking to either the whole
transcript, or an except from it in which Burger states something
about half of the lawyers being unqualified. I'm sure a search on
Google will bring forth the post(s) in question.

A select number of items that really are about Gregory Scott "Piggly
Wiggly" Hanson (either directly or through the same standards he
DEMANDS be held to others):

Title: ST VS GREGORY HANSON
(DOB 05/22/1959)
CRIMINAL COMPLAINT 04/10/1996
Comments: CT 1 OWI 1ST
OTHER CITATION 04/10/1996
Comments: CT 2 SPEED
Disposition Status
GUILTY PLEA/DEFAULT

"That's the chick, but not the pic, zipperhead!"
Greg "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson proving his bigotry towards Asians, by
attacking my first wife (deceased).
http://www.rsdb.org/search?q=zipperhead

Me: "I suspect your stalking is due to the use and abuse of illegal
drugs, Greg. Is the reason for your stalking the members of
alt.friends due to the use and abuse of illegal drugs?

Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson, wife beater and child abuser:
"Of course."


"My family's case is for Neglect, but we are treated
in virtually every regard as child abusers, marked on
the Child Abuse registry, for example."
-- Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson, wife beater and child
abuser

" ... But there ought to be conferences and studies on how to curb
minority overpopulation, repatriate minorities abroad, imprison more
minorities, increase use of the death penalty and divest minorities of
the power they have usurped over us in recent years. That would
address the most pressing problems of our day. ... "
April 2000, Gregory "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson
http://www.nationalist.org/ATW/2000/040101.html#Hanson

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From: Greegor <gree...@gmail.com>
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With the Christmas season upon us again, my stepdaughter was launching
into her usual tirade of "I need this" (Nintendo 64 games, Pokemon,
videos, Rhianna CD, etc.) After enduring a trip through Kmart, I
was at my wits end. I took the kid home and filled the bathtub with
water. Then I dunked the brat's head under the water and counted out
a full minute, with her flailing her arms. I brought her up and she
gasped for air. When she'd caught her breath, I asked her, "When you
were under that water, did you 'need' Nintendo? Pokemon? Rhianna?"
She shook her head. "What were you thinking about?" I
prodded. She told me "I was thinking that I needed air."

"Now you know the difference between 'need' and 'want'" I exclaimed
triumphantly.

--a true story


As of Sunday, Nov. 29, 2009:

Financials
Title: STATE OF IOWA VS HANSON, GREG SCOTT
Case: 06571 AGCR015216 (LINN)
Citation Number:

Summary Orig Paid Due
COSTS 9200.00 850.00 8350.00
FINE 500.00 500.00 0.00
SURCHARGE 150.00 150.00 0.00
RESTITUTION 0.00 0.00 0.00
OTHER 0.00 0.00 0.00


$9850.00 $1500.00 $8350.00

Yes, Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson still owes over
$8000.00 related to his convictions for BEATING his ex-wife.

Greegor

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Dec 13, 2009, 1:17:43 AM12/13/09
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KBW > I do recall that years ago, Ken Smith linking
KBW > to either the whole transcript, or an except
KBW > from it in which Burger states something
KBW > about half of the lawyers being unqualified.
KBW > I'm sure a search on Google will bring forth
KBW > the post(s) in question.

Nope.

Dan?
LIT?

Kent Wills

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Dec 13, 2009, 5:32:37 AM12/13/09
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You actually have to do a search.

>Dan?

No, Kent is the nym I use on Usenet.

>LIT?

No, Kent is the nym I use on Usenet.
How bad is your Fregoli these day, Greg?

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