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Oct 14, 2001, 6:28:16 PM10/14/01
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Ken is absolutely correct. I have in the past made statements that were
questionable.

To all of the readers I now would like to apologize for those posts.

I have given considerable thought to these actions and find them to be
in conflict with my intended purpose.

There is no joy to be found in the death of any person. My outrage
against law enforcement as a whole was intended to pressure changes from
within by shaming
them.

Killing and abusive targeting of people by police will continue to be my
area
of concern. This does not mean that I condone any killing, by or against
police,
legal or not.

Again, Let me once again apiologize to all the LEOs and their supporters
for
any pain that I have given to them by my words.

I would also like to thank Ken for forcing me to re-examine my beliefs.

My goal is not to add to tremendous amount of pain already in society,
but
to reduce it. If I deviate from this goal, please feel free to point it
out.

INTHEDOGHOUSE

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Oct 14, 2001, 10:04:12 PM10/14/01
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>Subject: - Ken is Right about OFR -
>From: - None_y...@hotmail.com
>Date: 10/14/01 4:28 PM Mountain Daylight Time
>Message-id: <3BCA0F...@hotmail.com>

OFR? Is that you?

DJ

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Oct 14, 2001, 10:07:00 PM10/14/01
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Oops, I forgot.

Paul F.Garrow.

>
> DJ

Pagan

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Oct 15, 2001, 1:30:02 AM10/15/01
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"-" <None_y...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3BCA0F...@hotmail.com...

> Ken is absolutely correct. I have in the past made statements that were
> questionable.
>
> To all of the readers I now would like to apologize for those posts.

Thank you.

Pagan


Ken [NY

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Oct 15, 2001, 2:09:01 PM10/15/01
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Go in peace and live long.
Ken [NY]
--
Chairperson,
Department of Redundancy Department
____________________________________

No trees were harmed to bring you
this e-Presentation...

Lenny Stover

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Oct 15, 2001, 4:59:05 PM10/15/01
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> > Ken is absolutely correct. I have in the past made statements that were
> > questionable.
> >
> > To all of the readers I now would like to apologize for those posts.

Damn....he musta *really* been sick. Too bad Rock isn't here to see this.

Lenny Stover

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Oct 15, 2001, 5:00:36 PM10/15/01
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> >Again, Let me once again apiologize to all the LEOs and their supporters
> >for
> >any pain that I have given to them by my words.
> >
> >I would also like to thank Ken for forcing me to re-examine my beliefs.
> >
> >My goal is not to add to tremendous amount of pain already in society,
> >but
> >to reduce it. If I deviate from this goal, please feel free to point it
> >out.


> Go in peace and live long.
> Ken [NY]

Somebody wake me up, I'm dreaming!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jafo

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Oct 15, 2001, 5:05:20 PM10/15/01
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As viewed from alt.thebird.copwatch, OFR wrote:

>Ken is absolutely correct. I have in the past made statements that
>were questionable.

"Questionable"? The words that he quotes were a little bit stronger
than "questionable", dontcha think?

So after initially flaming those who pointed out your past
statements, you've now decided to own up to them and apply
a little spin control?

--
Jafo

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Oct 15, 2001, 9:31:36 PM10/15/01
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>Subject: Re: - Ken is Right about OFR -
>From: Ken4b...@usa.SPAM.net (Ken [NY)
>Date: 10/15/01 12:09 PM Mountain Daylight Time
>Message-id: <3bcd2631...@news.speakeasy.net>


He forgot the "and prosper" part!


DJ

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Oct 15, 2001, 9:32:39 PM10/15/01
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>Subject: Re: - Ken is Right about OFR -
>From: "Lenny Stover" mppd...@the-police.com
>Date: 10/15/01 3:00 PM Mountain Daylight Time
>Message-id: <v%Hy7.10792$tE2.5...@feed.centurytel.net>

LOL! It's nice though!


DJ

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Oct 15, 2001, 9:33:25 PM10/15/01
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>Subject: Re: - Ken is Right about OFR -
>From: "Lenny Stover" mppd...@the-police.com
>Date: 10/15/01 2:59 PM Mountain Daylight Time
>Message-id: <4_Hy7.10791$tE2.5...@feed.centurytel.net>

Now, lets not push things, alright! <lol>


DJ

RichaHovis

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Oct 16, 2001, 11:12:54 AM10/16/01
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No apology necessary.

I don't recall Ken apologizing for Diallo, the kid in Cincinatti, Rodney King
or anybody else.

He cites Rodney King's latest lawbreaking as an excuse for police
brutality.Yes, Rodney King deserves to be arrested, yes, he is wrong, but Ken
seems to be implying: "King deserved that beating by the LA cops that he got
way back when."

Two wrongs don't make a right.

In some of my posts, I have complimented cops to the point of being
compromising, but Ken has never acknowledged it.

I agreed that the "Kill a Cop" stickers he blasted were in poor taste. Unless
I missed it, I don't recall Ken replying to that at all.

Why should he?

Because he knows that I don't condemn cop-killing, although he'll never admit
it (Oh, boy, Now I've done it .Expect K-k-ken to flood the post with a bunch of
"We- hate- Mumia- and- you- don't-so-you're-going-to-fry-in-Hell posts).

Your outrage against CORRUPT LEOs is understandable.It's just a matter of
keeping that outrage in focus and not losing perspective.

Yours in the Struggle,

Comrade Hovis
(Thank you once again for the nickname above that you suggested, Ken)

INTHEDOGHOUSE

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Oct 16, 2001, 11:37:11 AM10/16/01
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>Subject: Re: - Ken is Right about OFR -
>From: richa...@aol.com (RichaHovis)
>Date: 10/16/01 9:12 AM Mountain Daylight Time
>Message-id: <20011016111254...@mb-fb.aol.com>
Ken will never admit he's done anything wrong. It's not in his nature. Nor is
it in his nature to admit that we all arent' cophaters, like he enjoys
pretending that we are. I don't understand the reasoning behind it, but I
understand stubborn pride, when I see it.

>I agreed that the "Kill a Cop" stickers he blasted were in poor taste.
>Unless
>I missed it, I don't recall Ken replying to that at all.
>
>Why should he?
>
>Because he knows that I don't condemn

You did mean condone, not condemn didn't you?


cop-killing, although he'll never admit
>it (Oh, boy, Now I've done it .Expect K-k-ken to flood the post with a bunch
>of
>"We- hate- Mumia- and- you- don't-so-you're-going-to-fry-in-Hell posts).
>
>Your outrage against CORRUPT LEOs is understandable.It's just a matter of
>keeping that outrage in focus and not losing perspective.
>
>Yours in the Struggle,
>
>Comrade Hovis
>(Thank you once again for the nickname above that you suggested, Ken)


DJ

Sergea...@webtv.net

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Oct 16, 2001, 11:34:53 PM10/16/01
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To OFR, 2 thumbs up!!!

Sgt. Doe
"Ph.D. graduate of University of Hard Knocks "

INTHEDOGHOUSE

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Oct 17, 2001, 9:52:08 AM10/17/01
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>Subject: Re: - Ken is Right about OFR -
>From: Sergea...@webtv.net
>Date: 10/16/01 9:34 PM Mountain Daylight Time
>Message-id: <13773-3BC...@storefull-283.iap.bryant.webtv.net>

>
> To OFR, 2 thumbs up!!!
>
> Sgt. Doe
>"Ph.D. graduate of University of Hard Knocks "


Wow! We're are all getting along! It's almost scary! <lol>


DJ

RichaHovis

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Oct 18, 2001, 7:46:50 AM10/18/01
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Someday, you'll get to visit Rock.

I hope he looks good in orange.

Comrade Hovis

(Who will be nice and send Rock a copy of "Jailhouse Rock")


INTHEDOGHOUSE

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Oct 18, 2001, 10:00:18 AM10/18/01
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>Subject: Re: - Ken is Right about OFR -
>From: richa...@aol.com (RichaHovis)
>Date: 10/18/01 5:46 AM Mountain Daylight Time
>Message-id: <20011018074650...@mb-ml.aol.com>


Maybe Evlis would be so kind as to do that!


DJ

RichaHovis

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Oct 19, 2001, 6:37:10 AM10/19/01
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Sgt. Doe wrote:

Right on, Sarge.

You're the best.

Comrade Hovis


INTHEDOGHOUSE

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Oct 19, 2001, 9:09:03 AM10/19/01
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>Subject: Re: - Ken is Right about OFR -
>From: richa...@aol.com (RichaHovis)
>Date: 10/19/01 4:37 AM Mountain Daylight Time
>Message-id: <20011019063710...@mb-ce.aol.com>


They are both really good men. It took alot for them to post what they did.
I'm proud to call them friends. BTW, Comrade....Thanks again. You are
appreciated.


DJ

RichaHovis

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Oct 19, 2001, 2:31:46 PM10/19/01
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DJ>.

I don't who Evlis is,DJ, but he's definitely on his own planet.

Oh, well.

He seems to be having a good time.

CH

RichaHovis

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Oct 19, 2001, 2:36:23 PM10/19/01
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DJ>>

Well, almost all of us, DJ..if you get my drift.

:)

Comrade Hovis


INTHEDOGHOUSE

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Oct 19, 2001, 5:16:23 PM10/19/01
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>Subject: Re: - Ken is Right about OFR -
>From: richa...@aol.com (RichaHovis)
>Date: 10/19/01 12:36 PM Mountain Daylight Time
>Message-id: <20011019143623...@mb-cj.aol.com>

It's alright. He's going in the killfile. I'm just worried about Deb. Keep
an eye on her for me, okay?

DJ

INTHEDOGHOUSE

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Oct 19, 2001, 5:17:38 PM10/19/01
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>From: richa...@aol.com (RichaHovis)
>Date: 10/19/01 12:31 PM Mountain Daylight Time
>Message-id: <20011019143146...@mb-cj.aol.com>

And he's harmless. Some are not.


DJ

RichaHovis

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Oct 20, 2001, 10:41:24 AM10/20/01
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DJ caught me on a typo here:

<<>Because he(Ken) knows that I don't condemn

You did mean condone, not condemn didn't you?


cop-killing, although he'll never admit it>""

(Snipped)

Yes, DJ, I did mean "condone".

Surprised you didn't jump on that, Ken!

You're slipping!


CH

INTHEDOGHOUSE

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Oct 27, 2001, 1:20:17 PM10/27/01
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>Subject: Re: - Ken is Right about OFR -
>From: richa...@aol.com (RichaHovis)
>Date: 10/20/01 8:41 AM Mountain Daylight Time
>Message-id: <20011020104124...@mb-ce.aol.com>

It's his age. We will all slip at that age. My hope is that we all won't be
bitter and nasty at DCI's age.


DJ

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