go.. go johnny go
bob
> 'David O'Bedlam' <theda...@frottage.org> wrote:
> >JohnnyFavoritewrote to our Fearless Leader, BOB M.:
> > > I am just pleased as shit that you started a newsgroup that
> > > I actually enjoy participating in.
>
> > Actually, I, TheDavid, newgrouped 'alt.thanatos' a couple years
> > ago. 'alt.sex.fetish.thedavid' and
> > 'alt.religion.st-jennifer-of-the-knife' came around the same
> > time, I think. DejaNews'll clarify the dates.
>
> Yes, us longtime a.t'ers know the whole story. We have publicly discussed
> your role in it many times. We've argued about your true motivations for
> newgroup'ing us into existence.
They were pure, I'm sure!!!
> > Then Bob "took over" as he was supposed to.
>
> Yes. He and ras2 are the ones who did the real work.
Whatever happened to Ras?
> > Would you, Mr. "JohnnyFavorite", like a newsgroup of your own too?
>
> The thought has crossed my mind recently. But I want to go the "legal"
> route. ras2 and Bob had a heck of a time getting this place past the
> people at alt.config. It's dicey enough that ras2 tells me that we would
> not be allowed to create, say, alt.thanatos.inane to deal with the
> overflow, because we are not an official second-level hierarchy.
The newsgroup is still here 9 years later.
> So, thanks for the offer, but if this place starts to overflow too badly I
> think the thing to do will be to take over an abandoned newsgroup somewhere
> else.
Didn't I create one for you? Sure, it might have been there earlier
but I did newgroup alt.fan.johnny.favorite. My newgroup could have
been the genesis of the group. Thing is, you stopped using it. That
was sooo mean.
> > Oh, and by the way, please try to be nicer to Bob M. (at least
> > in public). Thanks in advance for your anticipated cooperation.
>
> Have you actually been reading the threads? He pretty much jumped me out
> of nowhere. I am certainly a cyclical jerk, but he won't tell me which of
> my jerk-related activities it is that's really pissing him off. Time and
> time again I have tried to get him to explain himself and allow us to get
> past it.
I should have read that without bias. It seems you wanted to
reconcile. I was full of rage back then. Ah well.
> The only reason I am participating in the flabby flamewar at ALL is because
> of my pre-existing relationship with him. If somebody came in off the
> street and started talking to me like that I would immediately label them a
> troll and ignore them.
So, it wasn't the challenge. You were accommodating me?
We are very different, aren't we?
I was a bigger jerk in the past than I am now.
Sonnenblume
>>> Then Bob "took over" as he was supposed to.
>> Yes. He and ras2 are the ones who did the real work.
> Whatever happened to Ras?
Oh, he went off with Targa, and then hrmmm, I mailed a computer loaded
with free (and um, "free") software so he could get off his Amiga and
onto a PC, so he could get a job of some sort. I ran into him a year or
two later on a bin group dedicated to old PCs. He seemed to be doing ok.
m, less angstful at any rate
Sonnenblume
much increased. Mr. Noyes writes, that many this summer have been added
to the church, and particularly mentions several young persons that
belong to the principal families of that town.
There has been a degree of the same work at a part of Guildford; and
very considerable at Mansfield, under the ministry of the Rev. Mr.
Eleazar Williams; and an unusual religious concern at Tolland; and
something of it at Hebron, and Bolton. There was also no small effusion
of the Spirit of God in the north parish in Preston, in the eastern part
of Connecticut, of which I was informed, and saw something, when I was
the last autumn at the house, and in the congregation of the Rev. Mr.
Lord, the minister there; who, with the Rev. Mr. Owen, of Groton, came
up hither in May, the last year, on purpose to see the work of God.
Having heard various and contradictory accounts of it, they were careful
when here to satisfy themselves; and to that end particularly conversed
with many of our people; which they declared to be entirely to their
satisfaction; and that the one half had not been told them, nor could be
told them. Mr. Lord told me that, when he got home, he informed his
congregation of what he had seen, and that they were greatly affected
with it; and that it proved the beginning of the same work amongst them,
which prevailed till there was a general awakening, and many instances
of persons, who seemed to be remarkably converted. I also have lately
heard that there has been something of the work at Woodbury.
But this shower of divine blessing has been yet more extensive: there
was no small degree of it in some part of the Jerseys; as I was informed
when I was at New York (in a long journey I took at that time of the
year for my health), by some people of the Jerseys, whom I sa
bob
nations. How could this prophecy be fulfilled without the conversion of the
nations? And how could the nations be converted to the Messiah, if they did
not see this final effect of the prophecies which prove Him? Therefore, till
He had died, risen again, and converted the nations, all was not
accomplished; and so miracles were needed during all this time. Now they are
no longer needed against the Jews; for the accomplished prophecies
constitute a lasting miracle.
839. "Though ye believe not Me, believe at least the works." He refers them,
as it were, to the strongest proof.
It had been told to the Jews, as well as to Christians, that they should not
always believe the prophets; but yet the Pharisees and Scribes are greatly
concerned about His miracles and try to show that they are false, or wrought
by the devil. For they must needs be convinced, if they acknowledge that
they are of God.
At the present day we are not troubled to make this distinction. Still it is
very easy to do: those who deny neither God nor Jesus Christ do no miracles
which are not certain. Nemo facit virtutem in nomine meo, et cito possit de
me male loqui.191
But we have not to draw this distinction. Here is a sacred relic. Here is a
thorn from the crown of the Saviour of the world, over whom the prince of
this world has no power, which works miracles by the peculiar power of the
blood shed for us. Now God Himself chooses this house in order to display
conspicuously therein His power.
These are not men who do miracles by an unknown and doubtful virtue, which
makes a decision difficult for us. It is God Himself. It is the instrument
of the Passion of His only Son, who, being in many places, chooses this, and
makes men come from all quarters there to receive these miraculous
alleviations in their weaknesses.
840. The Church has three ki