PORTRAIT of a LOSER Test. Ignore.
Craig Chilton
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"PORTRAIT of a LOSER"
Inside the Warped Mentality of a GENUINE Bigot
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INTRODUCTION for All Who Read This Dialogue:
It's between a freedom-fighter who has nothing to hide, and thus
does NOT cower behind a phony alias and e-mail address (in *this*
instance, that would be me, Craig Chilton), and a demonstrably-ignorant
(as will soon become obvious) bigot whose agenda is SO shameful, it's
no big surprise that he DOES cravenly hide in that manner.
In my opinion, you will never get a much BETTER chance than
THIS to actually experience insight into the way that the mind of a
true bigot functions. So even though this is a long piece, it is a
VERY worthwhile read for all who are concerned about such
abberrations.
NEITHER of us is easy on the other in this dialogue. You'll see
us both with the gloves OFF -- which is the BEST way to see how
people think!
You are free to draw your own conclusions, and, of course,
respond, if you wish. I ask only one thing: Watch CLOSELY for any
FACTS that may be presented. And NOTE *which* of us does the
presenting of them.
IF any of you happen to think that *my* points are invalid, for
any reason(s), that is certainly your privilege. I simply ask only
that you BACK any attempts to refute me -- with FACTS... lest you
simply present yourself, instead, out of emotionalism only... as my
opponent in this dialogue did.
-- Craig Chilton
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>>>>>>> Maybe if the USA wasn't founded on religious principals
>>>>>>> the first place, we wouldn't have a select few that loathe
>>>>>>> the way societal morality has faltered as a whole.
>>>>>> The morality of society is, for the most part, just fine. Despite
>>>>>> the mindlessness of some of the early settlers of America, with
>>>>>> their pillaries and their ducking stools.
>>>>> If the homo's...
>>>> That would be "homosexuals," I presume? Gay people?
>>>> Doesn't using pejoritives against a whole group of people just
>>>> because YOU hatefully are prejudiced against them just make
>>>> you feel really GOOD? You GET OFF on that, don't you?
>>>>
>>>> THANKS for showing us all even MORE of your bigoted colors.
>>>>> ...want to exploit themselves then what should they
>>>>> expect?
>>>> "Exploit" themselves? Now just HOW would they be doing that,
>>>> you pathetic and mindless little bigot? By minding their OWN business?
>>>> (Something that YOU obviously don't know the first thing about!) By
>>>> seeking EQUAL treatment in the workplace? By seeking EQUAL treatment in
>>>> housing? By having the SAME benefits as couples that heterosexuals do?
>>>> That's ALL that I've EVER heard them ask for. EQUALITY. That's as
>>>> reasonable as it GETS, and exploits no one.
>>> What an intelligent response. If the queers...
>> (Mindless bigot! Thanks again for PROVING that!)
> YOUR society has labeled gays with such a tag; I didn't do it all by
> myself. You don't like it? TOUGH! as you say. They even refer to
> themselves as queer, and proud of it. You, and all the other queers,
> LOVE that word, eh?
All the "OTHER" queers? Hmmm. You really ARE the undereducated
one, aren't you? We heterosexual ALLIES of the gay community very
likely OUTNUMBER the gays. It is BECAUSE of all those EXTRA millions
of EGALITARIANS (that's a word you'll have to look up; you are the
diametric OPPOSITE of one!), in COMBINATION with the gays, that your
hateful agenda against gays will soon join the equally mindless agenda
of segregation in EXTINCTION.
By the way, you are pretty confusing. You said, "YOUR society has
labeled gays with such a tag." Just WHICH faction are you talking
about? OURS (the heterosexuals)? Or THEIRS (the homosexuals)?
If you think that THEY coined the label, "queer," then you're wrong
AGAIN. I'm almost 60, and I frequently heard gays being taunted with
the word, "queer" all the way back in the 1940s... before the battle
for EQUAL rights for gays even started... by decades!
>>> ...minded their own business they WOULDNT BE INTERFERRING
>>> WITH ESTABLISHED RULES AND LAWS that were part of the
>>> American culture.
>> They interfere with absolutely NOTHING. At least, no more than the
>> blacks "interefered" with the "established rules and laws" that prevailed
>> in the pre-1964 South. The blacks gained EQUALITY, and the BIGOTED
>> and WORTHLESS Jim Crow laws became EXTINCT.
>>
>> And society was the BETTER for it.
> YAWN..hmmm..."bigoted" laws are ANY that show a trace of
> condemnation for acts deemed unnatural, as it relates with the NORMAL
> procreative set-up of things.
EVERYTHING I just said in the paragraph above just SAILED right
over your pointed head, didn't it?
Just WHAT PART of:
(1) "They interfere with absolutely NOTHING"
(2) "The blacks gained EQUALITY" and
(3) "Society was the BETTER for it"
...did you find so HARD to UNDERSTAND????
>> VERY soon, now, the SAME will prevail for the gays. And society
>> will, once AGAIN, be the BETTER for having DISPOSED of another
>> aspect of its outmoded and worthless bigotry.
>>
>> Of course, THAT would be too much to expect an ignorant
>> schmuck like you to understand. The equally-ignorant segregationists
>> weren't able to comprehend it either. But they were given no choice.
>> Their bigoted agenda became extinct. Just as Anti-Choice and
>> anti-gay-rights bigotry soon will become exinct. As in GONE. FOREVER.
>>> Why in hell do you expect society to conform to the desires of
>>> homosexuals???
Here's a more complete answer to that than I gave you
the first time:
For the SAME reason I expected, in the early 1960's, society to
"conform" -- if you can call ENSURING *equality* to be "conforming" --
to the principles upon which America was FOUNDED -- ALL of us being
created EQUAL. That's not "conforming." That is simply getting the
GLITCHES *out* of the program. Slavery was a HUGE glitch.
Segregation was a very bad and unconscionable glitch. And SO is
DENYING equality to a group of people SOLELY because a collection
of utterly MINDLESS and hateful control-freaks just don't happen to
like what they do in PRIVATE -- which is NONE of the control-freaks
business in the FIRST place.
RE-READ the above paragraph for comprehension. Based on your
performance in this series of posts, I'll be AMAZED if you have
sufficient intelligence to DO that.
And it can be SUMMED UP as I said before:
>> For the same reason that society gave EQUALITY to the blacks.
>>
>> FAIRNESS and GOOD SENSE.
> [Homosexuals]* have equality...
* I will no longer REPEAT your hateful insults to the gays...
who have done NOTHING to you... in my posts.
> ...on the EXACT same level of natural standards that everyone
> else has.
"Natural standards." What a CROCK of utter CRAP!! You sound
JUST like the bigoted segregationists in the South, 40 years ago!
"Black and white TOGETHER?! That's UNNATURAL!"
Hell, you are JUST as mindless and hateful as THEY were!
> It's just that they WANT us to EMBRACE THEIR personal lifestyle.
Wrong. They simply want you to BUTT OUT and MIND YOUR OWN
business while they are JUST as free to marry their chosen mates, live
in their chosen housing, and work in the jobs for which they are
qualified -- as YOU are.
> Many hetero's DO just that OBVIOUSLY, with all the [programs
> which mention or discuss homosexuality that are] being broadcasted.
Millions of heterosexuals are perfectly ACCEPTING of our nation's
DIVERSITY. That's one of America's greatest STRENGTHS: Our
*diversity* with respect to ALL aspects of life... race, sexual
orientation, creed, faith or lack thereof, gender, and age ranges. A
continual SOURCE of NEW ideas and concepts, all interacting together,
in a population of hundreds of millions wherein MOST people WELCOME
such strengths, and put them to best advantage. Besides FAIRNESS,
that's the other primary reason why MOST people REJECT the hateful
and mindless bigotry of people like you.
> Maybe we should also have laws, and equal rights, for those that
> engage in other abhorrent practices: Beastiality and child molestation.
Well, I'm not a fan of bestiality, NOR are most people. But if
done PRIVATELY, and without harming the animal, then what
the heck? It would be NO business of mine.
HOWEVER, child molestation is out! For obvious reasons: It takes
unfair andvatage of, and usually does harm to, people who are too
young to defend themselves.
CLUE: Use COMMON SENSE! Works almost every time!
> If people have the urge to perform these atrocities then why would
> you care? You're all about free will aren't you? WHO are YOU to tell
> ANYONE what they can and can't do?
See above. BTW, as regards beastiality, YOUR "atrocity" is
probably simply a harmless and enjoyable diversion for SOME other
people. We can assume that it prevails to SOME extent... and always
in private. So again -- MYOB!!! Mind Your Own Business!
> Obviously, you consider a child as an adult, who has the power to
> terminate life, so this should be up your distorted alley.
WRONG!! As I've explained to you before -- ANY girls faced with
an unwanted pregnancy should have the chance, unfettered and
unpressured, to CURE it if she so desires. Thereby putting their
lives BACK ON TRACK, and RESTORING normalcy to their lives.
And in getting the abortion, the "life" that they terminate has no
more value, since it's unwanted, than do sperm and ova. Which
ALSO are human, unique, a stage of development, NON-sentient,
POTENTIAL people. Abortion simply UNDOES the problem, and
makes it as though the sperm and ova had NEVER MET!
Ensuring that girls do NOT have to get parental consent before
getting abortion:
(1) SPARES thousands of them from retribution and punishment
by unreasonable, repressive parents. (MOST parents are
NOT that way, but enough of them ARE, that this eliminates
that risk.
(2) ENSURES that NO girl who does NOT want to have her
life disrupted by being forced to carry-to-term against
her will -- which could EASILY happen if she has one or
more hyperconservative LOONS for parents -- will be
cornered and trashed in that fashion.
These aspects are so very OBVIOUS, it absolutely AMAZES me that
such ignorance as YOU have been demonstrating is possible for any
adult capable of functioning within society!
> We have dominion over animals, so I suppose this wouldn't bother
> you either.
See what I said, above, about NOT harming animals.
> If we're lucky, maybe someday [someone] will introduce the world,
> via tv, to such a spectacle.
If so, it would happen on a PAY channel. Are you AWARE that TV
sets have KNOBS, and remotes have the equivalent? You get to WATCH --
*or* IGNORE -- whatever you like, or dislike. Other people have the
SAME capability.
Knowing you, you'd yowl and whine about that. Since you have NO
respect for so many rights, I suppose we can include freedom of
expression on your hit list.
BTW -- are you AWARE that one can find beastiality photos on the
INTERNET? Anytime anybody wants? NO big deal! Only the freshest
newbie wouldnt know how.
> Only then can YOU find peace, after EVERYONE has gratified their
> sexual desires and desecrated their bodies to the limit.
I'll find peace when hateful bigots like you GROW UP and realize
that their control-freakishness had been MINDLESS and downright
asinine.
MOST of the white, segregationist bigots DID just that, after
1964. So there MAY be hope for you yet!
>>> Why must the world change to benefit a perverted group
>>> of possibly condemned individuals??
>> Who's "perverted?" The homosexuals who mind their own
>> business and have sex in PRIVATE, just as heterosexuals do?
>> Or people like you who are ROTTEN TO THE CORE with the
>> perversion of bigotry?
> If the [homosexuals] minded their own business we wouldn't need to
> have this conversation now, would we?
When it comes to having sex, they DO mind their own business. But
when jerks like you seek to keep them from having EQUAL rights with
everyone else in terms of housing, partnerships, and the workplace,
that *IS* their business!!!
> Use your head for once.
I use mine all the time. If *you* EVER do, in here, it'll be for
the FIRST time!
> Is it too much to ask the queers to reside in their place like the
> rest of us?
Did you study the "Segregationists' Handbook" to become such
an outrageously hateful BIGOT? How WELL I remember them, when
I was a Civil Rights activist in the South, saying, over and over
again, "N--ers are fine -- IN THEIR PLACE."
Guess what, you sick LOSER: SOCIETY, and EQUALITY
within it, is EVERYONE'S "place."
> No, they must have "special" rules for their PRIVATE sexual
> prowess instead.
BULLCRAP!! They don't give a rat's ass how WE pursue sex... and
*we* SHOULDN'T give a rat's ass for how THEY go about it. You are, as
usual, being an unconscionable and control-freakish BUSYBODY.
> Personally, I am not bigoted.
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You are one of the MOST bigoted people I've seen in the last
forty years! Totally MINDLESS!
> I don't care what the [homosexuals] do in their privacy, but I am
> sick of SEEING flocks of pansies protest things that are in
> CONFLICT with God's word.
Screw YOU! WHERE does the Bible appoint YOU -- or anyone else --
to be its GESTAPO versus society in general? Or against any group of
people within society?
*** CITE me chapter and verse -- or ADMIT your *ignorance*!! ***
> Of course, that's fine by you though, since you refuse to acknowledge
> anything that could blow holes in your analysis.
LOL!!! I certainly just blew a MAJOR one in YOURS! 'WAY below the
water line. And your ship of hate is sinking FAST!
> Also, why weren't you HONEST enough to point out that
> EVERYONE has a viewpoint, and that it may differ from YOURS?
Since when have I ever said otherwise? HOWEVER --- We
are NOT carrying on this conversation in private, via e-mail. We
are doing it in a PUBLIC FORUM, where potentially millions, and
certainly thousands, of people are likely to see it -- and potentially
be influenced by it. And THAT makes BOTH of us ACTIVISTS.
Society currently is engaged in a cultural war: Society versus
bigotry, on two fronts -- abortion rights and gay rights.
We each have viewpoints, and we each have a right to those
viewpoints. But in this public forum, engaged as we are as
combatants in this two-front war, I will do all in my power to
dismember and expose your bigoted mindlessness, piece-by-piece
and issue-by-issue for all to see. Then they'll make up their minds.
It would be HELPFUL to your hateful agenda IF (1) it weren't
hateful, (2) there were ANY *facts* to back up what you say.
But your two-pronged agenda is bigoted and clueless, so has
NEITHER of those things going for it. For you, that's the breaks.
As for society -- society WINS.
> Yet, because it does, you wish to give it no concern and, in
> conclusion, no ultimate fair chance.
In a cultural war for human rights, there is NO such thing as
giving "fair chances" to BIGOTRY. You either make you case,
based on FACTS, as I have been doing... or you properly remain
a LOSER.
> My view is that procreation established us, and it continues to
> be, and will ALWAYS, BE, a heterosexual act. Our laws are
> established in this regard, NOT vice-versa.
See? You just blew it AGAIN. Homosexuality has been around for
thousands of years longer than either of us. It was QUITE prevalent
in ancient Greece. And... SURPRISE! Humanity has survived just FINE!
Homosexuals don't harm procreation by heterosexuals in the LEAST!!
>>>>> Why can't the homo's...
>>>> (ALWAYS the ignorant bigot!)
>>>>> ...live under the same laws that hetero's live under?
>>>> They DO! And soon, we ALL will live under
>>>> slightly-altered laws that ENSURE fair and equal treatment
>>>> of ALL Americans.
>>> No, don't even say that [homosexuals] deserve to have the
>>> same procreative laws that frequent a NORMAL marriage.
>> To YOU, a "normal" marriage is heterosexual. To THEM, a
>> "normal" marriage is same-sex.
> To define the problem, all we have to do is expose the meaning of
> traditional marriage vows, which BTW do NOT endorse same-sex marriage.
An EXCELLENT reason for REVISING the laws. Simply remove that
GLITCH, and treat EVERYONE fairly and equally.
> Why do you suppose SOCIETY has labeled them as being QUEER?
IGNORANT bigotry, plain and simple!!
> Maybe because they have ODD actions of a QUEER nature??
Have you considered the possibility that they regard OUR sexual
behavior the same way? But if they DO, we have to give them CREDIT
for being FAR more charitable to US, than the BIGOTED people in the
HETEROsexual community have been to THEM.
>> Thus, ALL marriage is perfectly normal, for those who are involved.
>> You don't LIKE that? TOUGH. Your hateful and bigoted regime is
>> about to become HISTORY. Very soon. And there isn't a damned thing
>> that you and your fellow, mindless bigots can do about it. America
>> OUTGROWS bigotry. Steadily. Inexorably. And now there are only
>> two aspects of it left. BOTH rapidly on their way OUT. Forever.
>>
>> That's the breaks. TOUGH, loser.
> What is also TOUGH is that [homosexuals] will NEVER be accepted.
ROTFLMAO!!!! That's JUST what the segregationists were saying
about the blacks in the 1950s. Today, we see a few hundred LUDICROUS,
laughingstock KKK members as the last tiny remnant of that form of
bigotry. I'm glad they're still on the scene. They serve to REMIND
us of just how IDIOTIC such bigotry was, and provide us all some
comic relief.
THAT is the very WELL-deserved and certain fate of the bigotry of
the Anti-Choicers and the homophobes.
> Not only that, but [homosexuals] will NOT go to Heaven being
> gay either.
GEE!!! I had NO IDEA that I was corresponding with GOD!!
> God will NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, permit a homosexual angel
> in Heaven LOL!!!!!
Nor a HETEROSEXUAL one, either -- since the Bible makes it VERY
clear that angels are specifically-created beings which are DIFFERENT
from humans, and the souls of humans.
BTW -- if the homosexuals can't make it, then NEITHER can YOU,
since the Bible makes it VERY clear that NO one is perfect, and entry
to heaven is by God's GRACE -- *ONLY*!
>>> It was NEVER a custom, in the bible, for two of the same
>>> gender to be married.
>> Hell, you don't even have enough respect for the Bible to
>> capitalize its name, hypocrite.
> And instead of an appropriate reply, we get the usual runaround BS.
> What else can we expect if YOU continue to ignore all relevant issues?
STILL dumber'n a dead rock, aren't you? Not even observant
enough to see that I ANSWERED your point right after pointiong
out your hypocritical disrespect for the Bible. (WHICH, I notice, you
IGNORED! Tough row to hoe, being a hypocrite, isn't it?)
>> WHERE in the Bible does it say that YOU, or ANY of your ilk, have
>> been appointed its GESTAPO -- to enforce YOUR interpretations
>> (usually wrong) of its precepts on society?
>>
>> WHERE? Cite us chapter and verse!
> LOL!! Is this the only training you have when faced with the truth?
> Didn't "they" teach you to have another pro-gay irrelevant snippy
> comeback to VALID scripture????
WHO the hell is "they???"
ANSWER the QUESTION, loser! WHERE does the Bible
authorize you to be its ENFORCER????
> Your PATHETIC attempt at HIDING, in view of those that you are
> trying to redeem yourself in front of,
I expose your bigotry on behalf of SOCIETY... MOST of which
already REJECTS your form of hatefulness. The only one here who
needs to REDEEM himself areound here, is YOU. In front of practically
EVERYONE. I hide from NO one... but YOU certainly are doing a LOT
of ducking. And you STILL have NO FACTS on your side.
> ...is amazingly CRYSTAL clear. Why would I need to refute scripture
> that is ABUNDANTLY evident, YOU stuuuuuuuuuuuuupid twat?
YOU clearly are the STUPID one, for shopping around in the Bible,
cafeteria-style, for verses you like, while IGNORING all the ones that
deal with the REDEMPTION taught by Jesus. (Hypocritical loser.)
>>>>> Why would you expect a preacher to marry
>>>>> two gays?
>>>> Because he's a preacher, and marrying people is one of the
>>>> things that preachers DO. If he doesn't want to do that, let
>>>> him find another line of work that's more in keeping with his bigotry.
> Yeah, [homosexual] preachers are the new alternative thing these
> days, I forgot.
Glad I was able to remind you. Just MORE strong evidence, like
Vermont's new freedom, that your style of bigotry is well on its way
-- very deservedly -- to extinction.
>>>> Maybe he can get together with some equally mindless ones
>>>> and start "The First Church of Prejudice," to give us all a good
>>>> laugh.
>>> What can a gay couple contribute to the continuance
>>> of society?
>> PRECISELY that which heterosexual couples do. As for
>> procreation -- no problem. You're an Anti-Choicer, aren't you?
>> Doesn't that make ADOPTION something that you're just CRAZY
>> about? (BTW, we PRO-Choicers are JUST as supportive as
>> adoption as you are!) So they can ADOPT... and MANY of them
>> ALREADY are doing that!
>>
>> Even MORE fascinating, it's very PROBABLE that cloning
>> will soon make it possible for same-sex couples to have their OWN
>> children, employing JUST the DNA of the members of the couple,
>> via one of the members when female, and via a surrogate mother,
>> when the couple is male.
> Yep, [homosexuals] have to use heterosexual procreation to
> make their dreams come true.
You idiot!! WHAT is heterosexual about two lesbians contributing
their DNA and eggs to bring about a child that is SOLELY, genetically
THEIRS? (You don't READ very well, do you? No surprise there!
You've ALREADY demonstrated that *many* times!)
> Too bad sodomy can't bring forth children eh? [Homosexuals]
> must "endure" this sickening ordeal to have offspring.
ALWAYS the HATEFUL schmuck, aren't you?
THANK YOU for proving the MINDLESSNESS and VICIOUSNESS
of the homophobic bigots for all the world to see. Not only will I
ensure that this lesson be visible for all to see, but I will INCLUDE
this dialogue on a new website that I'm developing. People who
don't yet realize just HOW irrational and hateful people of your ilk
truly are, need to see it for themselves.
>>>>> They TAKE our moral values AWAY and GIVE nothing
>>>>> in return.
Additional comment to my previous response to this:
They do NOTHING to OUR (societal) moral values... but YOURS
need a LOT of help! And they contribute MUCH of value to society.
Despite the bigotry that has bombarded them from a minority of people
like you, those people are more creative than average, and are FAR
more successful, on average. Their median income is around $45,000 a
year, whereas that of society as a whole is under $28,000 a year.
>>>> You can KEEP your bigoted "morality." No one's going to
>>>> take it away from you. Unlike you bigots, homosexuals have
>>>> NO desire to hatefully take things AWAY from people.
>>>>
>>>> But you will NOT be allowed to IMPOSE your hatefulness
>>>> on others. TOUGH!!
>>> Hmm..they can spread their BIOLOGICALLY DOOMED sodomy
>>> to other unsuspecting children, who have yet to harness appropriate
>>> knowledge, which comes with age.
>> What utter bullcrap! That's the sort of mindlessness that's dooming
>> the bigoted Boy Scouts organization. (CLUE: Studies have found
>> with a great deal of certainty that a HETEROSEXUAL person is 3
>> TIMES more likely than a homosexual one to be a child molester.
> What an incompetant you are. Only a homosexual performs sodomy
> on another male. Heterosexuals ARE NOT GAY!
Heterosexuals who are BIsexual ARE! But that's neither here nor
there. You made reference to a form of child molestation. However,
there are MANY forms of child molestation... NOT by any means all
having to do with "sodomy." And studies have shown that HETERO-
sexuals are THREE TIMES more likely to offend against children than
HOMOsexuals are.
> If a "supposed" hetero performs sodomy on a man, then he is NOT
> hetero, he is [HOMOSEXUAL!!] DUH! IDIOT!! A heterosexual could
> still be a child molester, raping female children, but most appear to
> sodomize young boys.
See above. (Talk about "Duh!!" They don't COME much more
ignorant than you!)
>>>>> Show me a child born from sodomy and I will bow down
>>>>> and kiss your arse.
>>>> Thanks, but I will very happily PASS!
>>>> But YOU are very likely, within THIS decade, to see
>>>> children of THEIRS that are GENETICALLY theirs.
>>> WHY do you support acts that endorse NO responsibility,
>>> NO morality, NO procreativity?
>> See above. Homosexuals are "different" from heterosexuals in
>> ONE way, and one way ONLY: The gender *with whom* they
>> choose to engage in sex -- PRIVATELY. Otherwise,they are absolutely
>> NO different from heterosexuals. You probably know MANY of them,
>> and don't even have a CLUE that they are gay. They are THAT normal.
> BUFFOON!!! You have accidentally exposed what I HAVE BEEN
> SAYING all along. Yes, to be NORMAL in appearance & demeanor, they
> must HIDE their abnormal identity to FIT IN with the NORMAL crowd. I
> love how you inadvertantly associated "Normal" with NOT appearing
> gay. You are correct. NORMAL doesn't apply to perverse acts, such as
> homosexuality.
I exposed NOTHING, because I've been up front with you all along.
(1) There are still many gays who are in the closet because they
have NO DESIRE to waste their valuable time arguing with the
TRUE buffoons in our society -- hateful bigots like YOU.
They (UNLIKE you) have NOTHING to be ashamed of, and
they ARE perfectly normal. In ALL ways. INCLUDING sex.
For gays, having sex with partners of the same gender IS
normal -- and what YOU do is ABnormal. (The difference
being that THEY are FAR more fair to YOU, than YOU are
to THEM.)
(2) Millions of gays have come OUT of the closet, to PROVE
to bigots like you that they are your EQUALS in ALL ways.
>>>> Procreation, I've covered.
>>>>
>>>> And PIT VIPERS are more "moral" than YOU are.
>>> All of which are leading to the ultimate cataclysmic conclusion
>>> that is mentioned in revelations. Do you have ANY damn idea
>>> why Satan is on earth?
>> He probably gets off on feeding the serum of bigotry to pathetic
>> losers like you.
>>> Are you consciously aware that YOU are obeying Satan and
>>> helping him to fulfill biblical scripture which result in the
>>> widespread evil that YOU endorse??
>> Sorry, guy, but while there are MANY aspects of evil in the
>> world, one can only actively OPPOSE a handful of them. Hateful
>> BIGOTRY is the one that I actively oppose.
>>> You act as if the bible [sic!]
>> LOL!!!! CLUE: It's "Bible."
>>> ...was the primary say so in all of your conclusive efforts. If
>>> so, then how can you explain, without taking scripture literally out
>>> of text, all the condemnation that the bible concludes, regarding
>>> homosexuality? It's quite evident that God does NOT approve of
>>> sodomy, from ANYONE, not just the gays.
>> Remember what I said about the Bible's NOT appointing a
>> GESTAPO?
> Yes, do you also remember my valid reply?
No. Because you DUCKED that question and gave NO answer to it.
JUST as you are doing AGAIN right now. COWARD!
> From this point further, the rest of your garbage, below, has already
> been defended, and refuted at my leisure, with accuracy. I have no
> time to rehash my stance against your redundant BS.
You refuted NOTHING that I said, below.
You have presented *NO* FACTS that support your stance,
ANYWHERE in this dialogue. ALL you have done is whine,
grouse and emit emotional outbursts of hatefulness and bigotry.
There is NOTHING that you can say that would refute MY refutations
of YOU, in the text that follows... so you're taking the COWARD'S way
out. No surprise, since, at bottom, that's what MOST bigots ARE:
Insecure, pathetic, hateful cowards.
The remainder of this piece is retained , so that everyone can see
what you said, and the way that I effectively rebuffed you with FACTS.
(Lest anyone get the wrong idea, this is NOT braggadocio on my
part. Facts are FACTS. Simply consider me to be a MESSENGER
who is capable of refuting bigotry with facts.)
>> No matter what the Bible says or doesn't say about any of that...
>> guess what? It's between them and GOD! Neither God, nor Jesus,
>> nor the disciples who wrote the New Testament, appointed
>> ANYONE to be the ENFORCERS of Biblical precepts upon society
>> as a whole.
A point that you REPEATEDLY ducked. And perhaps the
MOST GERMAINE point of all !!!
>> Somewhere in there, there's even a verse that tells people NOT to
>> try to do that. (I've lost track of it, but I've seen it. And when I find it
>> again, I'll add it to my list of SIGS, and employ it OFTEN!)
>>> You rightfully pick and choose how you desire to
>>> read the bible.
>> Wrong. But YOU certainly do that. For example, even though I've
>> told you about this several times, you STILL are too DENSE to learn
>> or acknowledge THESE Biblical facts:
>>
>> -- Abortion isn't condemned anywhere in the Bible.
>> -- Abortion isn't even MENTIONED in the Bible.
>> -- No human entities that have not been BORN are
>> DEFENDED by the Bible.
>> -- ALL human entities that ARE defended in the Bible
>> HAVE been BORN.
>> As far as "sodomy" (a word coined LATER) is concerned... the Bible
>> does contain verses that oppose it. But the Bible is available to everyone,
>> and gays have the COMPLETE right to take it up with God. Or not. As
>> they prefer. Meanwhile, you have NOT been appointed an ENFORCER
>> of Biblical precepts upon society in general. And neither has anyone else.
And HERE (above), you chickened out AGAIN!
>>> It mentions in the bible that the ONLY sin you can commit against
>>> your body is pre-marital sex. Why don't you speak out and criticize
>>> these young women who have abortions based on this exact
>>> scenario?
>> Oh? You think people should only criticize WOMEN... who have
>> ABORTIONS... for premarital sex?
>>
>> Talk about IGNORANCE.
>>
>> Why don't you be CONSISTENT, rather than just sexist and
>> hateful? And criticize (1) OLDER women who engage in
>> premarital sex, instead of just the "younger" ones.. (2) all the MEN who
>> engage in premarital sex... and (3) the women who have premarital sex,
>> and then choose to carry-to-term, rather than have abortions?
>>
>> BETTER YET: Why don't you simply MIND YOUR OWN
>> BUSINESS?
>>> Abortions would cease dramatically if the kids were
>>> treated as kids.
>> Abortion is merely a REMEDY. Most people can afford them.
>> They aren't that expensive. Abortion is NO big deal. And NO ONE is
>> going to stop enjoying the world's GREATEST form of recreation, just to
>> kowtow to hateful and mindless control freaks like you. NO ONE!!
>>> Why don't you speak out against adults, who you insist
>>> have the right to do ANYTHING with their own body, including
>>> pre-marital sex that can lead to pregnancy? Because you are a
>>> one-dimensional advocate of depravity in its most self-indulging form.
>> Wrong. Mindlessly and STUPIDLY wrong.
>>
>> I don't speak out against ANYTHING which consenting adults
>> (or even teens, for that matter) choose to do in PRIVATE which
>> causes no overt harm to their neighbors -- BECAUSE, unlike you
>> and your hateful, brainless ilk, I am NOT a control-freakish
>> busybody. What they do is NONE of my business. And it is NONE
>> of YOURS, either.
>>> You believe that we need not adhere to any rules that could lead
>>> to responsibility.
>> Wrong. I never said that. I only said that NO ONE is
>> "responsible" to carry-to-term against their will, just to please
>> losers like you.
>>> Let me guess, you are one of those people who refuse to
>>> admonish your child? You probably don't believe in spanking
>>> your child.
>> Wrong. You sample from the Bible cafeteria-style. I, as a
>> fundamentalist, take it quite literally, and believe that its advice is
>> good. When my kids deserved spankings, they got them. All three
>> of them grew up to be very successful, well-balanced and
>> accomplished adults. And there are NO bigots among them.
>> They would be fully as disdainful of your mindless hatefulness as
>> I am.
>>> Disciplne is LACKING in this world, that's why we have these
>>> spoiled fanatical views, ...
>> If views that conflict with YOURS are "spoiled and
>> fanatical," then I'm all FOR them.
Originally, I simply OMITTED his NEXT comment when responding
to him, because it was too utterly hateful and inane to even MERIT a
response. But to give you more insight into his thinking... here it
is:
>>> Disciplne is LACKING in this world, that's why we have these
>>> spoiled fanatical views, presented to us by both the parent AND
>>> the child. I suppose you wouldn't mind if your son was denied
>>> the benefits of heterosexual marriage, after being seduced as a
>>> child, by his older queer scout leader, who is a well trained
>>> predator. Do you know the affects this form of RAPE could cause
>>> on the mentality of a child that has yet to reach the pinnacle of his
>>> awareness? A true heterosexual child would have PAINFUL
>>> memories, when he reached a level of adequate understanding,
>>> if he was seduced by a filthy gay mongrol. I'm not sure if the rest
>>> of your reply is even worth a spit in the wind, not unless you
>>> show me some form of disciplined moral integity instead of
>>> hypocrisy and contempt.
FYI -- The word for which I substituted "homosexual" in his
comments, in this piece, was -- as you almost surely have surmised --
the word, "queer." I made the substitution in the text to in
deference to the group upon which he was to so gratuitously
attempting to heap his hatefulness.
-- Craig Chilton xana...@mchsi.com