'Bring us home': GIs flood US with war-weary emails
al953
An unprecedented internet campaign waged on the frontline and in the US is
exposing the real risks for troops in Iraq. Paul Harris and Jonathan
Franklin report on rising fears that the conflict is now a desert Vietnam
Paul Harris and Jonathan Franklin
Sunday August 10, 2003
The Observer
Susan Schuman is angry. Her GI son is serving in the Iraqi town of Samarra,
at the heart of the 'Sunni triangle', where American troops are killed with
grim regularity.
Breaking the traditional silence of military families during time of war,
Schuman knows what she wants - and who she blames for the danger to her son,
Justin. 'I want them to bring our troops home. I am appalled at Bush's
policies. He has got us into a terrible mess,' she said.
Schuman may just be the tip of an iceberg. She lives in Shelburne Falls, a
small town in Massachusetts, and says all her neighbours support her view.
'I don't know anyone around here who disagrees with me,' she said.
Schuman's views are part of a growing unease back home at the rising
casualty rate in Iraq, a concern coupled with deep anger at President George
W. Bush's plans to cut army benefits for many soldiers. Criticism is also
coming directly from soldiers risking their lives under the guns of Saddam
Hussein's fighters, and they are using a weapon not available to troops in
previous wars: the internet.
Through emails and chatrooms a picture is emerging of day-to-day gripes,
coupled with ferocious criticism of the way the war has been handled. They
paint a vivid picture of US army life that is a world away from the
sanitised official version.
In a message posted on a website last week, one soldier was brutally frank.
'Somewhere down the line, we became an occupation force in [Iraqi] eyes. We
don't feel like heroes any more,' said Private Isaac Kindblade of the 671st
Engineer Company.
Kindblade said morale was poor, and he attacked the leadership back home.
'The rules of engagement are crippling. We are outnumbered. We are
exhausted. We are in over our heads. The President says, "Bring 'em on." The
generals say we don't need more troops. Well, they're not over here,' he
wrote.
One of the main outlets for the soldiers' complaints has been a website run
by outspoken former soldier David Hackworth, who was the army's youngest
colonel in the Vietnam war and one of its most decorated warriors. He
receives almost 500 emails a day, many of them from soldiers serving in
Iraq. They have sounded off about everything from bad treatment at the hands
of their officers to fears that their equipment is faulty.
The army-issue gas mask 'leaks under the chin. This same mask was used
during Desert Storm, which accounts for part of the health problems of the
vets who fought there. My unit has again deployed to the Gulf with this
loser,' ranted one army doctor.
Some veterans have begun to form organisations to campaign to bring the
soldiers home and highlight their difficult conditions. Erik Gustafson, a
veteran of the 1991 Gulf war, has founded Veterans For Common Sense. 'There
is an anger boiling under the surface now, and I, as a veteran, have a duty
to speak because I am no longer subject to military discipline,' he said.
A recent email from Iraq passed to Gustafson, signed by 'the Soldiers of the
2nd Brigade of the 3rd Infantry Division', said simply: 'Our men and women
deserve to see their loved ones again and deserve to come home. Thank you
for your attention.'
Another source of anger is government plans to reverse recent increases in
'imminent danger' pay and a family separation allowance. These moves have
provoked several furious editorials in the Army Times, the normally
conservative military newspaper. The paper said the planned cuts made 'the
Bush administration seem mean-spirited and hypocritical'.
Tobias Naegele, its editor-in-chief, said his senior staff agonised over the
decision to attack the government, but the response to the editorials from
ordinary soldiers was overwhelmingly positive.
A further critical editorial is planned for this week. 'We don't think
lightly of criticising our Commander-in-Chief,' Naegele said 'The army has
had a rough couple of years with this administration.'
Mainstream veterans' groups too are angry about cuts being proposed at a
time when politicians have heaped praise on the army's performance in
Afghanistan and Iraq and want to launch a recruitment drive.
Veterans plan protests to highlight the issue. 'We are going to show them
that veterans are people who know how to vote,' said Steven Robinson, a
veteran and executive director of the National Gulf War Resource Centre, one
of the websites where veterans' issues are raised.
Susan Schuman too is planning a protest. This week she plans to join members
of a new group, Military Families Speak Out, who will travel to Washington
to make their case for their sons, daughters, husbands and wives, to be
brought home from Iraq.
With soldiers dying there almost daily, comparisons have already been drawn
with the Vietnam war and the birth of the protest movements there that
divided America in the Sixties and Seventies.
Political scientists, however, think the war will have to get much worse
before anything similar happens over Iraq. 'To put it crudely, I think the
country can accept this current level of casualties,' said Professor Richard
Stoll, of Rice University in Houston, Texas.
That is little comfort to Schuman, who says she just wants to see her son,
Justin, return alive from a war she believes is unjust. 'It is a quagmire
and it is not going to be easy to get out,' she said. 'That's where the
parallel with Vietnam is.'
Guardian Unlimited © Guardian Newspapers Limited 2003
Don Ocean
Most of those folks are reservist...They took the good times money and
now are bellycaching
over taking the bad times money.. Or college tuition or whatever. As for
the regulars..
screw-em...They signed on the dotted line..So live up to the agreed
obligations.. They have
a voice as voters. I deeply admire the folks that are the backbone of
this countries military
and are doing their job without a whimper. And folks like you and I are
supposed to be doing
our jobs of keeping an eye on our politicians, so that they don't get
carried away. Matter of
fact it might go better if the politicians let the generals make the
decisions in the war zones.
The choices were to go into Iraq and spend a great deal of wealth and
lives and time(lottsa time)
suppressing a violent dictatorial regime or just flat not to..and wait
for the problem to
grow really huge and come home to roost. Well we are there now..So lets
do all the right things
and not fail in this mission due to those with a flimsy backbone. In a
flat response...It is too
late to turn back now! So lets leave Iraq a better place when we do
leave.. And I would of
course prefer it if they liked us for it..But ..whatever the case..
Leave Iqaq a free nation
with equality and peace and prosperity for ALL of its citizens. A
lasting government of their
people and not a clone government of any single religion.
al953
"Don Ocean" <oc...@amerion.com> wrote in message
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Screw 'em? We're talking about people who are risking their lives in an
illegal war
declared by our illegal & mentally-challenged leader, for little over
minimum wage.
Do you know how much their families will get if they get killed in Iraq? A
king's ransom of
$8000!
These people took a oath to fight for America, not for the terrorist state
of israel,
Haliburton, Chevron, or crooked politicians. They are soldiers, not
mercenaries.
They have every right to complain.
BRING OUR TROOPS HOME NOW!!!!
> > Guardian Unlimited Š Guardian Newspapers Limited 2003
DW Suiter
are a "good" card carrying Republican who thinks Bush is next to God.
Try addressing the issues of the post instead of attempting to minimize
criminal actions by creating a smokescreen about "reservists."
GI's are being killed on a regular basis. The reservist's blood is very much
the same as the RA blood. Mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, children of
the reservist; they all mourn the same as the families of the RA's when the
GI is killed.
Your response is asinine to say the least.
<oc...@amerion.com> wrote in message news:3F36D6DB...@amerion.com...
Don Ocean
DW Suiter wrote:
>
> Sounds like they have done a very good job of brainwashing you. I assume you
> are a "good" card carrying Republican who thinks Bush is next to God.
Nope! I assmume you are a card-carrying liberal socialistic embicile.
>
> Try addressing the issues of the post instead of attempting to minimize
> criminal actions by creating a smokescreen about "reservists."
I recognize that your limited attention span does not allow you to read
an
entire post. I also recognize that you are one that believes that a
signed contract
doesn't necessarily mean you have to live up to its obligations. I have
to supposition
that you are not of patriotic military timbre. Therefore you must be of
the Klinton
draft dodging traiter Klan. Earn your bones sonny...then you will have
earned the
right to debate with real Americans.
>
> GI's are being killed on a regular basis. The reservist's blood is very much
> the same as the RA blood. Mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, children of
> the reservist; they all mourn the same as the families of the RA's when the
> GI is killed.
Ummmm? When you Join(versus drafted) it is expected that maybe bad
things can occur..
And do. Someone coined the phrase "War is Hell" ..Well, dummy...They
weren't kidding.
Do you have any idea how many Americans are dying daily from aids? Or
how many service
men and women die daily from accidents, disease..etc...even in
peacetime. Do you even have
the foggiest on how many Marines died in the asault on Siapan? Now to
make my point
to you even clearer...DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MANY IRAQI"S WERE DYING
DAILY DUE TO
UN IMPOSED SANCTIONS? We (America) requested those sanctions to be
loosened.. Answer
was no...We kept a protective cover for years over the kurds(No fly zone
etc). We actually
have lost more service people in accidents,violent acts etc..in that
endeavor then in
this conflict. So Mr Bleeding Heart...Will you volunteer to help ease
the suffering
by joing one of the aid groups over there..the quicker this is
accomplished the quicker
my grandkids can come home!
>
> Your response is asinine to say the least.
That must be your sissy-boy response to issues that are far over your
head.
<snipped that which was a bit oo long>
Don Ocean
Ummmm? Please put that in plural.. Leader(S)
After all the prevail of War is in the Hands of congress...A congress
that is
almost equal for dems versus repubs.
, for little over
> minimum wage.
A bunch of us did that for $67.00 a month... Dad got $34.00 a month and
a bunch of ribbons and such.. When he was cremated a couple of years
ago..
I was given some schrapnel from the ashes.
> Do you know how much their families will get if they get killed in Iraq? A
> king's ransom of
> $8000!
They are encouraged to purchase a very cheap life policy...That came
into effect way
back in 1957(Military archives). And I thought you were the one that
wanted to leave
money out of this?
>
> These people took a oath to fight for America, not for the terrorist state
> of israel,
I take it that the Radical Muslims don't impress you with their
"kill the infidel" rhetoric?
As for Israel... It is time for all of those semites..Israeli's/Arabs
etc. to
settle up... This crap has been going on since 1917 with the Balfour
thingie.
And we have been supporting them since 1947...I think we have given both
sides
enough time.. We need to promptly develop our hydrogen energy resources
and
leave those folks to settle their own differences...And over
there....NOT over here.
> Haliburton, Chevron, or crooked politicians. They are soldiers, not
> mercenaries.
When and if America runs out of oil...You will be among the mob
demanding the
government get us some.
> They have every right to complain.
Are these folks real Military or snotty-nosed CubScouts?
>
> BRING OUR TROOPS HOME NOW!!!!
Not very realistic at this stage of the game...
>
>
DW Suiter
record.
BTW oh dimwitted one, I'm a DAV.
Try addressing the issues with some semblance of intelligence. I realize
that may be very difficult for you, but try.
"Don Ocean" <oc...@amerion.com> wrote in message
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Captain America ex-warhol
An unprecedented internet campaign waged on the frontline and in the US is exposing the real
risks for troops in Iraq. Paul Harris and Jonathan Franklin report on rising fears that the
conflict is now a desert Vietnam
Sunday August 10, 2003
Don Ocean
DW Suiter wrote:
>
> Tell us all about Bush's obligations as a reservist. Then tell us about his
> record.
You obviously have a problem with reading comprehension. I don't
advocate
either major party, but I do advocate what is best for true Americans. I
do
have better things to do then check out the president for dirty laundry!
>
> BTW oh dimwitted one, I'm a DAV.
Obviously a whiny one... Apparently the disability is mental or you
wouldn't be sucking
hind tit on the Klintonista's.
>
> Try addressing the issues with some semblance of intelligence. I realize
> that may be very difficult for you, but try.
It truly amazes me that when you are fishing for trophy game fish, that
bottom feeders
keep popping up! Oh well...Bait is cheap.. ;-p
***However, I do recommend that you reread the original parts of this
thread,
and do pay attention this time.
Henrik Bengtsson
"Don Ocean" <oc...@amerion.com> skrev i meddelandet
news:3F37EB0C...@amerion.com...
>
>
> DW Suiter wrote:
> >
> > Tell us all about Bush's obligations as a reservist. Then tell us about
his
> > record.
>
> You obviously have a problem with reading comprehension. I don't
> advocate
> either major party, but I do advocate what is best for true Americans. I
> do
> have better things to do then check out the president for dirty laundry!
In other words you are not doing your job properly.
--
------------------------------------------
Henrik Bengtsson
Armchair Mercenary
Illuminati(Retired), A.T.V. Inf.(Retired)
Political Maverick and Loose Cannon
------------------------------------------
DW Suiter
who follows the same old worn out principle of "an offense is the best
defense."
Whining? No, you are the whiner, starting with your response to the post.
Only a fool would see my response as whining.
Sounds to me you are merely another worthless pile of dung regurgitating the
same old nonsensical garbage others do when confronted with the facts and
the truth.
"Don Ocean" <oc...@amerion.com> wrote in message
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Don Ocean
Henrik Bengtsson wrote:
>
> "Don Ocean" <oc...@amerion.com> skrev i meddelandet
> news:3F37EB0C...@amerion.com...
> >
> >
> > DW Suiter wrote:
> > >
> > > Tell us all about Bush's obligations as a reservist. Then tell us about
> his
> > > record.
> >
> > You obviously have a problem with reading comprehension. I don't
> > advocate
> > either major party, but I do advocate what is best for true Americans. I
> > do
> > have better things to do then check out the president for dirty laundry!
>
> In other words you are not doing your job properly.
Sorry Henrik...Your mistake..I checked the duty roster and its not in my
job description to teach the constitution and Bill of Rights to slack-
jawed politicians.. I do however retain the right to whine and groan
in harmony with you when they screw up. ;-p
Don Ocean
DW Suiter wrote:
>
> Got to admit, you are a hard headed, stupid, died in the wool Republican,
> who follows the same old worn out principle of "an offense is the best
> defense."
>
> Whining? No, you are the whiner, starting with your response to the post.
> Only a fool would see my response as whining.
>
> Sounds to me you are merely another worthless pile of dung regurgitating the
> same old nonsensical garbage others do when confronted with the facts and
> the truth.
>
> "Don Ocean" <oc...@amerion.com> wrote in message
> news:3F37EB0C...@amerion.com...
I note that your mental disability keeps you from enjoying reality.
It is a shame that you have such an enmity for the very political
party that is now signing your very large disability checks. Perhaps
the Democrats will soon take over that function.. Remember what your
hero Billy-Bob Klinton did to the Veterans administration budgets?
Of course if you had followed Billy-Bob to London..Your problems
wouldn't exist... Oppps..Thats wrong...You enlisted! Right? ;-p
Semper Fi!!
PS If you need someone to babysit your current president...Why don't you
volunteer?
After all..Your available..
DW Suiter
Congress controls my pension funds. However, it was Bush who has cut funding
to the VA hospitals showing what he really thinks about Vets.
I see no reason to continue responding to your drivel.
"Don Ocean" <oc...@amerion.com> wrote in message
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Don Ocean
DW Suiter wrote:
>
> I see reality, truth, fact, is not welcome in your mind. First, the US
> Congress controls my pension funds. However, it was Bush who has cut funding
> to the VA hospitals showing what he really thinks about Vets.
>
> I see no reason to continue responding to your drivel.
Gotcha...Now I see what your disability is... You burned your brain on
drugs
and now the taxpayer carries your frieght. Congress controls ALL
budgets!!
But I guess with your nose Up Klintons butt..You missed government
classes.
I suggest that you search all VA budget issues since 1992 foreward..
That is if
you fried little brain can handle reality!
Dore
as civilians and become AWOL, get out of Iraq, and then move to Canada. To
sit there waiting for a Satan worshipper BUSH, to bring them home, is
LUDICROUS, while they DIE for the wallets of the rich and oil owners. Bush
and the actual rulers of the world, doesn't care if every American would
rise up and demand to bring them home, they will do what they want, because
their only desire is to invade, control and profit from every nation they
want to control. They consider ALL military personnel as collateral, and
couldn't care less about their lives, only their own bank accounts and
power. WAKE UP, the leaders don't care about them, so no amount of protest
is going to do a thing in this NAZI, SATANIC New World Order, so if they
want to save their own lives, they had better find their own ways to get out
of the situation. Fact is, the Patriot Acts totally destroyed the
Constitution, and NO American has any rights, liberties or freedom and they
sit back and nary a peep about that, even though it imprisons and steals
everything in their own lives, you surely don't think they are gonna stand
up and do anything about some stranger, who's life is in the military in
Iraq, do you? I am appalled that every citizen in every state isn't in
uproar and outraged by the Patriot Acts, and protesting in the streets for
their OWN LIVES. How much moreso will they lay down and cower in the face of
the rulers and government for strangers they don't even know?
It is all pathetic and unbelievable, and makes me think that I am living in
the twilight zone, since the apathy of Americans is so overwhelming, I
simply cannot believe it. They let the devil and his minions in the
government do as they please without a peep. Are there any Christians at all
on the earth? I wonder. They all look like COWARDS who bow and kiss the
feet of SATAN to me.
--
Dore
"al953" <al...@xyz.com> wrote in message
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Dore
there and lay down YOUR life so that the rich oil barons can line their
pockets. You say leave Iraq a FREE nation, when you are so stupid that you
don't even know that YOU are NOT free in anything, but simply believe the
wealthy corrupt, greedy, self-serving LIARS tell you that you are free, and
you drink in that crap, because you are TOO stupid to SEE REALITY. MORON!
YOU don't have peace nor prosperity, but are nothing but a brainwashed robot
cowering at the feet of the wealthy. That's the trouble with Americans, they
are all stupid MORONS like you, who haven't a clue, but trust and believe
the LYING, CORRUPT, OPPRESSING, NAZI, SATANISTS, WEALTHY GREEDY,
SELF-SERVING, FREEMASON, POWERLUSTING IDIOTS who rule this government. Fact
is, MORON, you are NOT doing your job, but demanding that people DIE for the
rich man's wallet, while you cower and kiss his ass, so you can watch the
game on Monday night. HYPOCRITE! When those greedy Satanic Nazi's cause the
nukes to fly and infect YOU with their own biological destruction, to fall
on YOUR head, who will you blame then? You know what, let em, destroy the
stupid moronic, selfish, cowards, like you, for who needs the likes of you
anyway.
--
Dore
"Don Ocean" <oc...@amerion.com> wrote in message
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Don Ocean
Dore wrote:
>
> Get your butt over there and stand in their shoes, you coward.
Been there..Done that!! Semper Fi ...And now what have you accomplished
to
pay your way into this discussion?
YOU go over
> there and lay down YOUR life so that the rich oil barons can line their
> pockets. You say leave Iraq a FREE nation, when you are so stupid that you
> don't even know that YOU are NOT free in anything,
I think that living arrangements for you in Iraq can be negotiated...
Then you can tell me/us all about freedom! Are you one them them thar
socialists.
but simply believe the
> wealthy corrupt, greedy, self-serving LIARS tell you that you are free, and
> you drink in that crap, because you are TOO stupid to SEE REALITY. MORON!
> YOU don't have peace nor prosperity, but are nothing but a brainwashed robot
> cowering at the feet of the wealthy. That's the trouble with Americans, they
> are all stupid MORONS like you, who haven't a clue, but trust and believe
> the LYING, CORRUPT, OPPRESSING, NAZI, SATANISTS, WEALTHY GREEDY,
> SELF-SERVING, FREEMASON, POWERLUSTING IDIOTS
Ummm? I think you missed the Illuminati, the Builderburgers, and
Mussolini!! ;-p
who rule this government. Fact
> is, MORON, you are NOT doing your job, but demanding that people DIE for the
> rich man's wallet, while you cower and kiss his ass, so you can watch the
> game on Monday night. HYPOCRITE! When those greedy Satanic Nazi's cause the
> nukes to fly and infect YOU with their own biological destruction, to fall
> on YOUR head, who will you blame then? You know what, let em, destroy the
> stupid moronic, selfish, cowards, like you, for who needs the likes of you
> anyway.
I do think your due for a mental rebuild//
> > > Guardian Unlimited © Guardian Newspapers Limited 2003
Don Ocean
oldickeastman
> DW Suiter wrote:
> >
> > I see reality, truth, fact, is not welcome in your mind. First, the US
> > Congress controls my pension funds. However, it was Bush who has cut funding
> > to the VA hospitals showing what he really thinks about Vets.
> >
> > I see no reason to continue responding to your drivel.
>
> Gotcha...Now I see what your disability is... You burned your
> brain on drugs and now the taxpayer carries your frieght.
> Up Klintons butt..You missed government classes.
> I suggest that you search all VA budget issues since 1992
> foreward.. That is if you fried little brain can handle
> reality!
What kind of man is Don Ocean, who sells out the good, who sells out
the people of this country for organized crime. Put the money under
his nose (or is it coke?) and he'll slit his mothers throat and piss
on his father's grave or do what Don Ocean does on this newsgroup.
Don Ocean is the Bush Administration -- he is its ethics, he is its
soul.
ANd this is the kind of thing Don Ocean the traitor merely blinks at:
Is There Anything Left That Matters?
By Sister Joan Chittister, OSB
t r u t h o u t | Perspective
Thursday 29 May 2003
This is what I don't understand: All of a sudden nothing seems to
matter.
First, they said they wanted Bin Laden "dead or alive." But they
didn't get him. So now they tell us that it doesn't matter. Our
mission is greater than one man.
Then they said they wanted Saddam Hussein, "dead or alive." He's
apparently alive but we haven't got him yet, either. However,
President Bush told reporters recently, "It doesn't matter. Our
mission is greater than one man."
Finally, they told us that we were invading Iraq to destroy their
weapons of mass destruction. Now they say those weapons probably don't
exist. Maybe never existed. Apparently that doesn't matter either.
Except that it does matter.
I know we're not supposed to say that. I know it's called
"unpatriotic."
But it's also called honesty. And dishonesty matters. It matters
that the infrastructure of a foreign nation that couldn't defend
itself against us has been destroyed on the grounds that it was a
military threat to the world.
It matters that it was destroyed by us under a new doctrine of
pre-emptive war" when there was apparently nothing worth pre-empting.
It surely matters to the families here whose sons and daughters went
to war to make the world safe from weapons of mass destruction and
will never come home.
It matters to families in the United States whose life support
programs were ended, whose medical insurance ran out, whose food
stamps were cut off, whose day care programs were eliminated so we
could spend the money on sending an army to do what did not need to be
done.
It matters to the Iraqi girl whose face was burned by a lamp that
toppled over as a result of a U.S. bombing run.
It matters to Ali, the Iraqi boy who lost his family - and both his
arms - in a U.S. air attack.
It matters to the people in Baghdad whose water supply is now fetid,
whose electricity is gone, whose streets are unsafe, whose 158
government ministries' buildings and all their records have been
destroyed, whose cultural heritage and social system has been looted
and whose cities teem with anti-American protests.
It matters that the people we say we "liberated" do not feel
liberated in the midst of the lawlessness, destruction and wholesale
social suffering that so-called liberation created.
It matters to the United Nations whose integrity was impugned, whose
authority was denied, whose inspection teams are even now still being
overlooked in the process of technical evaluation and disarmament.
It matters to the reputation of the United States in the eyes of the
world, both now and for decades to come, perhaps.
And surely it matters to the integrity of this nation whether or not
its intelligence gathering agencies have any real intelligence or not
before we launch a military armada on its say-so.
And it should matter whether or not our government is either
incompetent and didn't know what they were doing or were dishonest and
refused to say. The unspoken truth is that either as a people we were
misled, or we were lied to, about the real reason for this war.
Either we made a huge - and unforgivable - mistake, an arrogant or
ignorant mistake, or we are swaggering around the world like a blind
giant, flailing in all directions while the rest of the world watches
in horror or in ridicule.
If Bill Clinton's definition of "is" matters, surely this matters.
If a president's sex life matters, surely a president's use of global
force against some of the weakest people in the world matters. If a
president's word in a court of law about a private indiscretion
matters, surely a president's word to the community of nations and the
security of millions of people matters.
And if not, why not? If not, surely there is something as wrong with
us as citizens, as thinkers, as Christians as there must be with some
facet of the government. If wars that the public says are wrong
yesterday - as over 70% of U.S. citizens did before the attack on Iraq
- suddenly become "right" the minute the first bombs drop, what kind
of national morality is that?
Of what are we really capable as a nation if the considered judgment
of politicians and people around the world means nothing to us as a
people?
What is the depth of the American soul if we can allow destruction
to be done in our name and the name of "liberation" and never even
demand an accounting of its costs, both personal and public, when it
is over?
We like to take comfort in the notion that people make a distinction
between our government and ourselves. We like to say that the people
of the world love Americans, they simply mistrust our government. But
excoriating a distant and anonymous "government" for wreaking rubble
on a nation in pretense of good requires very little of either
character or intelligence.
What may count most, however, is that we may well be the ones
Proverbs warns when it reminds us: "Kings take pleasure in honest
lips; they value the one who speaks the truth." The point is clear: If
the people speak and the king doesn't listen, there is something wrong
with the king. If the king acts precipitously and the people say
nothing, something is wrong with the people.
It may be time for us to realize that in a country that prides
itself on being democratic, we are our government. And the rest of the
world is figuring that out very quickly.
From where I stand, that matters.
Sister Joan
Ben mitts
>
> Dore wrote:
>
>>Get your butt over there and stand in their shoes, you coward.
>
>
> Been there..Done that!! Semper Fi ...And now what have you accomplished
> to
> pay your way into this discussion?
>
equivalent of The Vietnam
War's Hanoi Jane!- She be-
lieves in telling them any
thing but dont get caught
doing it yourself!
--
Peace!
Sincerely,
Ben mitts
From The Word of God: And as Moses lifted up the serpent
in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted
up; that whoever believes may in Him have eternal life."
Similarly, God so loved the world, that He gave His only
begotten Son, that who ever believes in Him should not
perish, but Have eternal life. Another: God did not send
the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the
world should be saved through Him. He spoke elsewhere: I
am the resurrection and the life; he who believes in Me
shall live even if he dies, and everyone who lives and
believes in Me shall never die. Believe you this?
Therefore we may, as many will to do so: "But as many as
received Him, to them He gave the right to become child-
ren of God, even to those who believe in His name,"
(John 1:12)
DW Suiter
your mind is either too small or totally incapable of determining fact from
fiction.
Never used drugs you stupid asshole, in fact I was a cop for many years.
Now, pile of shit, go hide under the rock you crawled out from under, with
all the other lying, false accusing, worthless piles of dung who have no
value as a human being.
It is you who needs to research the reason why Vets have to wait six months
for a doctors appointment; why they cannot get the medical attention they
need and deserve.
It's simple; just read some back issues of the DAV magazine. Or do you
accuse all of the nations Vets and heroes of lying? Probably. Your kind of
slime will do anything to promote your political mayhem.
"Don Ocean" <oc...@amerion.com> wrote in message
news:3F39A539...@amerion.com...
Dore
> Been there..Done that!! Semper Fi ...And now what have you accomplished
> to
> pay your way into this discussion?
Oh another warmonger, who loves to murder and kill other people in other
nations, without conscience, nothing but a killing machine robot, bowing
down and serving the evil desires of the American wealthy. No wonder.
you wrote.
> I think that living arrangements for you in Iraq can be negotiated...
> Then you can tell me/us all about freedom! Are you one them them thar
> socialists.
Why, when I can live in Nazism, socialism, tyranny, oppression, NO freedom,
lies, thievery, and volumes upon volumes of laws, denying every single
freedom there is, in THIS country. In Iraq, the US destroyed their water,
but here they are poisoning ours. In Iraq, they are murdering people with
depleted uranium, (including their own military soldiers) but here, they
create and implement Sars, Aids, Ebola, West Nile virus, chemicals that
cause cancers, chemtrails, air pollution, toxic waste, and various other
means to get rid of the poor secretly. WHAT FREEDOM? I can't protest or
else I will be imprisoned, beat up or shot (remember Kent State and
Seattle?) I can't drive my car without restraint of a seat belt, I can't
smoke a joint because it makes you wise and they want stupid robots who
protest nothing, I can't put up a Christian sign, because it's against the
law, I can't do anything without the written, and PAID request by the
government. I have to lock myself in my house or else someone will come in
and rape, molest or murder me, or steal all of my stuff, I have to fear
walking down the street at night or I might get accosted, mugged or worse. I
am NOT allowed to say anything public that is negative about BUSH, or I get
monitored by the FBI. I am forced to pay 25% of my pitiful wages so that the
rich wealthy billionaires can invade other countries and force them under
their NAZI SATANIC New World Order, and if I don't they come and take
everything away and put me in prison. Have you read the Patriot Acts? It has
totally annihilated the Constitution and ANY right any citizen has in the
US. AS if, those secret FREEMASON Satanists ever honored it in the first
place. If I am accused of breaking one of their zillion laws, I don't have a
court that respect truth, justice and fairness, but greedy corrupt court
system, who's ONLY concern is the LAW, NOT Justice and fair judgment. YOU
tell me WHAT freedom I have here in the US, and tell me how it is better
than the rest of the world. Heck, Europe, Canada, Australia, and most every
other nation is more FREE than we are. You wanna send me to Iraq, sure after
you bombed the hell out of it, tainted it with depleted uranium, destroyed
the water, power and facilities. You wanna call Saddam an oppressor, because
he killed hundreds of Iraqis, but heh, those Iraqis, were the ones who
rebelled against his tyranny, of which YOUR government would do the exact
same thing, if any of us, ever got groups together to fight against their
unjust tyranny. At least they had the gonads to fight against injustice of
an unfair dictator, YOU fight FOR the evil SATANIC wicked ones, against the
innocent. And if called, when they decide that all Christians and people who
demand Constitutional rights, are all terrorists, and put them in
concentration camps to be annihilated, you would be back in service,
abusing, imprisoning, beating and capturing your fellow citizens, so get off
your high horse and stop pretending that your evil government is so
RIGHTEOUS and you are such a patriot, when all you are, is a mindless,
unthinking killing robot that PRETENDS you fight for FREEDOM, when you fight
for the EXACT opposite, you fight for tyranny and the SATANIC NAZI'S. WAKE
UP TO TRUTH!
you wrote.
> Ummm? I think you missed the Illuminati, the Builderburgers, and
> Mussolini!! ;-p
Exactly, Hitler too, he was a buddy to Bush's grandfather, who financed his
rise to power, oh and don't forget the bin Laden's, they are buddies to the
Bush's as well. In fact, they were meeting with Bush just days before 911.
Did you know that the only plane allowed to fly after 911 was a private jet,
getting the bin Laden family out of the US for their safety? Did you know
that the military jets in Washington DC, stay grounded, until 30 minutes
AFTER the Pentagon got hit? Did you know that the FBI was ordered NOT to
investigate Al qaida, bin laden or the 911 attacks, with threats of
imprisonment? Did you know that the US financed and helped the Taliban come
to power in Afghanistan, but when they decided they wanted an oil pipeline
to go through Afghanistan and that the Taliban destroyed all of the poppy
fields, putting a big dent in their heroin profits, that along with the
desire to get more money to finance more home security, more military, more
oppression, power and control, suddenly 911 occurred and Afghanistan had to
be invaded and set "FREE" as well. Do you know that in Oklahoma City, there
were THREE MORE bombs that were strategically placed, so that the building
would completely collapse, that never went off? In fact, do you know
anything at all? You guys so PROUDLY want to go and get rid of terrorism,
when it is your own government that planned, orchestrated, financed, trained
and implemented the 911 attacks, as well as The Oklahoma City bombing,
Flight 800 and the various attacks around the world, to bring in the Nazi
New Word Order. Well, if you marines would really like to destroy the
terrorists, start at the White House, Tony Blair, Rockefeller, Rothschild's,
Cheney, Clintons, the Bilderburgs, the Oil barons, the Federal Reserve,
which is PRIVATELY owned banks, of Europeans, JEWS and American families,
preying on the working class of the US and the Illuminati, etc, because that
is where the REAL terrorists are.
you wrote.
> I do think your due for a mental rebuild//
I think you and the rest of the US military, as well as ALL Americans are in
need of a wake up call, instead of believing all of the LIES of your
government, who throw your lives, liberties, and FREEDOM away for THEIR
riches.
--
Dore
"Don Ocean" <oc...@amerion.com> wrote in message
news:3F39B3BE...@amerion.com...
Dore
--
Dore
"Don Ocean" <oc...@amerion.com> wrote in message
news:3F39B467...@amerion.com...
> > > Guardian Unlimited © Guardian Newspapers Limited 2003
> > >
> > >
torresD
Kindblade said morale was poor,
and he attacked the leadership back home.
'The rules of engagement are crippling.
We are outnumbered.
We are exhausted.
We are in over our heads.
The President says, "Bring 'em on."
The generals say we don't need more troops.
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,1015684,00.html
'Bring us home': GIs flood US with war-weary emails
An unprecedented internet campaign waged
on the frontline and in the US is exposing the
real risks for troops in Iraq.
Paul Harris and Jonathan Franklin report
on rising fears that the conflict is now a
desert Vietnam
Sunday August 10, 2003
Blutkrieg 88
>
>
> DW Suiter wrote:
>>
>> Tell us all about Bush's obligations as a reservist. Then tell us
>> about his record.
>
> You obviously have a problem with reading comprehension. I don't
> advocate
> either major party, but I do advocate what is best for true Americans.
> I do
> have better things to do then check out the president for dirty
> laundry!
You sound like a lying kike bastard. Damn dirty Jew. Any White man
(especially those who have woken up over there . . . . keep in mind, there
are alot of White Power Skinheads in the combat arms fields) who has pulled
his head out of his ass and purged his system of the Jewish poison can see
this war is a load of shit. I pray to the gods for a day when treasonous
scum on capital hill will be hanging side by side.
>>
>> BTW oh dimwitted one, I'm a DAV.
>
> Obviously a whiny one... Apparently the disability is mental or you
> wouldn't be sucking
> hind tit on the Klintonista's.
Oh goody, the good little shabbes goy, invokes Clinton. As far as I'm
concerned Klinton and Bu$h are two sides of the same coin. When Whites
become angry en masse and say "to hell with the ballot box, where's the
goddamned Ammo box", Democraps and Repugnacunts will both be dodging
bullets and/or "hanging around". All is needed is a serious economic
disaster and the gov't becoming even more draconian (due to another Mossad
orchestrated Terrorist attack), and there will be a Balkans styled "Free
For All" - CIVIL WAR TWO! IT'Z COMING!
>>
>> Try addressing the issues with some semblance of intelligence. I
>> realize that may be very difficult for you, but try.
>
> It truly amazes me that when you are fishing for trophy game fish,
> that bottom feeders
> keep popping up! Oh well...Bait is cheap.. ;-p
>
You're either a kike shill or someone seriously misguided. I think you're
the former . . . . when the writing on the walls becomes so apparent that
even you with your judaic mental poisoning will not be able to ignore it,
keep your head down!
Right Click and save as to see what REAL White People think of this
bullshit war.
http://www.vonbluvens.com/081503.mp3
Blutkrieg 88
ziv...@worldnet.att.net
to realize that they can't go home when they feel likt it. When they
"sign up", they know it could for a very long time. War is not joke
and those who aren't killed in this "game" will remember their stint
in Iraq. I'd not reup if I were them. We are thankful for what the do.
Let's just pray for their peace of mind and strength to make it for
however long they have to remain there.
"DW Suiter" <dwsu...@toast.net> wrote in message news:<vjdmv8g...@corp.supernews.com>...
al953
do you know Dore is a woman?
"Don Ocean" <oc...@amerion.com> wrote in message
news:3F39B467...@amerion.com...
> > > Guardian Unlimited © Guardian Newspapers Limited 2003
> > >
> > >
Don Ocean
al953 wrote:
>
> Sure appreciate your effort Don, but I'm an athiest not a christian,
Thats OK...Apparently neither is she/it. Seems to be of the Satanic
order..
>& how do you know Dore is a woman?
By the vicious response.. ;-)
al953
They're soldiers, not mercenaries!
<ziv...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:a416cbbf.03081...@posting.google.com...
> > > > Guardian Unlimited © Guardian Newspapers Limited 2003
dt
> Don Ocean" <oc...@amerion.com> wrote in message
> news:3F39B3BE...@amerion.com...
>
> > Been there..Done that!! Semper Fi ...And now what have you accomplished
> > to
> > pay your way into this discussion?
>
> Oh another warmonger, who loves to murder and kill other people in other
> nations, without conscience, nothing but a killing machine robot, bowing
> down and serving the evil desires of the American wealthy. No wonder.
>
> you wrote.
> > I think that living arrangements for you in Iraq can be negotiated...
> > Then you can tell me/us all about freedom! Are you one them them thar
> > socialists.
>
> Why, when I can live in Nazism, socialism, tyranny, oppression, NO freedom,
> lies, thievery, and volumes upon volumes of laws, denying every single
snip..
methinks this screeching hermaphrodite has become unhinged.
vae victus
dt
Dore
Thats OK...Apparently neither is she/it. Seems to be of the Satanic
> order..
Let's see, YOU love and support warmongering, murder, destruction, chaos,
oppression, greed, thievery, lies, propaganda, and evil, but I am of the
Satanic order? HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
--
Dore
"Don Ocean" <oc...@amerion.com> wrote in message
news:3F427342...@amerion.com...
Don Ocean
dt wrote:
>
> "Dore" <spiri...@frontiernet.net> wrote in message news:<%kB_a.17772$hQ.1...@news02.roc.ny>...
> > Don Ocean" <oc...@amerion.com> wrote in message
> > news:3F39B3BE...@amerion.com...
>
>
> snip..
> methinks this screeching hermaphrodite has become unhinged.
> vae victus
>
> dt
Thats really insulting to the hermaphrodite species!
Don Ocean
Dore wrote:
>
> Don Ocean" <oc...@amerion.com> wrote in message
> news:3F427342...@amerion.com...
> Thats OK...Apparently neither is she/it. Seems to be of the Satanic
> > order..
>
> Let's see, YOU love and support warmongering, murder, destruction, chaos,
> oppression, greed, thievery, lies, propaganda, and evil, but I am of the
> Satanic order? HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
& how do you know Dore is a woman?
fireflye
the female of the species is more deadly than the male
Rudyard Kipling 1911
http://www.poetry.com.au/classics/titles/f/female-species.html
Don Ocean
fireflye wrote:
>
> "Don Ocean" <oc...@amerion.com> wrote in message
> news:3F430A4B...@amerion.com...
> >
> >
> > Dore wrote:
> > >
> > > Don Ocean" <oc...@amerion.com> wrote in message
> > > news:3F427342...@amerion.com...
> > > Thats OK...Apparently neither is she/it. Seems to be of the Satanic
> > > > order..
> > >
> > > Let's see, YOU love and support warmongering, murder, destruction,
> chaos,
> > > oppression, greed, thievery, lies, propaganda, and evil, but I am of the
> > > Satanic order? HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
> >
> > & how do you know Dore is a woman?
> >
> > By the vicious response.. ;-)
>
> the female of the species is more deadly than the male
> Rudyard Kipling 1911
> http://www.poetry.com.au/classics/titles/f/female-species.html
Interesting poem Fireflye. Why are you still up? Raining here in the
S.Dakota.
Been kinda dry...Really good for the crops. Been really busy.. Still a
night-owl though. best to you and yours..
Don O.
fireflye
You're incorrigible :-)
take care Don O.
Mark Swejlallik
wrote:
>On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 00:37:27 -0500, Don Ocean <oc...@amerion.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>Blutkrie(Real name Goldman) 88 wrote:Some of the most ignorant crapola
>>ever to be regurgitated.
>>
>>Well goldy ...Back to your cave ...And do try to at least act human...
>>What a boring dolorous bunch of upchuck! Ho Hum...
>
>He sounds like a thirteen year old. A definite possibility that your
>request to "act human" is probably a futile gesture.
>Don, you and I know that the anonymity of Usenet let's a lot of real
>life pussies talk awfully brave as long as their hiding behind their
>keyboard while sitting on their fat asses, but one backhand and they
>start bawling like little girls. You and I have seen them come and go
>for years. We'll have to leave the group windows open for awhile so
>the stench from this crybaby goes away. ;-)
>
>Keep on keeping on my friend.
>
>
>
Hahahaha . . . even if he's a 13 year old (which he isn't), he has a
hell of alot more wisdom than you or that idiot you're slurping.
Don't worry about him 'hiding behind his keyboard' (that has to be the
most overused (f)lame) on the usenet. There'll come a time when you
and others stupid enough to believe in this rotten Jew infested
system, will be in for a rude awakening and will be too busy watching
your world fall apart instead of 'projecting' (like a Jew) in usenet
forums.
Race traitors such as yourself (that is, if you're actually White and
not a hooknosed, rat faced, Khazaro-Edomite Satanic Seedline Jew or a
bootlipped shabbes-nigger) and the kikes you worship will be swinging
in the breeze! Believe you me! All it takes is an economic disaster
coupled with a 'terrorist' attack which result in the government
becoming more repressive, and 'Civil War II' will begin. You call
Blutkrieg a 'crybaby' but neither you or that other pathetic excuse
for a White Man, "Mr. Ocean" have bothered to refute him.
Mark Swejlallik
"IT'Z COMIN'! WAKE UP WHITE PEOPLE!"
ps. Hey Mr. Ocean! Here's a little preview of what you can expect in
the not-so-distant future of Sioux Falls from those Som00lians you
have living among you. I hope this happens to you and other race
traitors:
http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/images/promos/cartoons98.jpg
What's happening to American troops in Iraq and who's behind it!
http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/images/promos/cartoon_meatgrinder.jpg
More cartoons!
What's the difference between a Neoconservative and a teenage girl?
http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/images/promos/neos.jpg
What is the vilest type of Jew? (This is for you JEWdeo-"Christians"
http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/images/promos/worst.jpg
Coming to your state soon!
http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/images/promos/cartoon_comingsoon.jpg
Best Freep yet!
http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/images/promos/victory.jpg
The Spirit of 2003!
http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/images/promos/76-03.jpg
To all of you JEWdeo-"Christians" check out the links to get a glimpse
of what will happen to you and the Shatan Yehudi you serve!
--
http://www.vnn.com
http://www.regmeister.net/pearson/index.htm
http://www.churchofthesonsofyhvh.org/
http://www.kingidentity.com/seedline.htm
http://users.mo-net.com/mlindste/index.html
http://churchoftrueisrael.com/identity/
http://assemblyoftrueisrael.com/
http://posse-comitatus.org/
http://abbc.com/
http://www.nowarforisrael.com/
Who are the Jews? Pt I
http://www.scripturesforamerica.org/html2/jm0014a.htm -
Although a Non-Seedline Identity site, good info concerning the Jew can be found
Who are the Jews? Pt II
http://www.scripturesforamerica.org/html2/jm0014b.htm
HEY JEWS! Take a look! I got a picture of one of you thanks to "NIZKOR WATCH <doc_t...@my-deja.comDELETE2MAIL-NO-SPAM>"!
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if you're told to go you go. PERIOD! (Or they'll go to jail.) That's
just what the deal is. The only way one doesn't have to go and fight
is if they don't enlist themselves.
"al953" <al...@xyz.com> wrote in message news:<nCu0b.105517$3o3.7...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
Don Ocean
showed up!
Mark Swejlallik wrote:
>
> On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 13:27:34 -1000, Thomas <mau...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 00:37:27 -0500, Don Ocean <oc...@amerion.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>Blutkrie(Real name Goldman) 88 wrote:Some of the most ignorant crapola
> >>ever to be regurgitated.
> >>
> >>Well goldy ...Back to your cave ...And do try to at least act human...
> >>What a boring dolorous bunch of upchuck! Ho Hum...
> >
> >He sounds like a thirteen year old. A definite possibility that your
> >request to "act human" is probably a futile gesture.
> >Don, you and I know that the anonymity of Usenet let's a lot of real
> >life pussies talk awfully brave as long as their hiding behind their
> >keyboard while sitting on their fat asses, but one backhand and they
> >start bawling like little girls. You and I have seen them come and go
> >for years. We'll have to leave the group windows open for awhile so
> >the stench from this crybaby goes away. ;-)
> >
> >Keep on keeping on my friend.
> >
> >
> >
> Hahahaha . . . even if he's a 13 year old (which he isn't),
Not even that old , huh?
he has a
> hell of alot more wisdom than you or that idiot you're slurping.
> Don't worry about him 'hiding behind his keyboard' (that has to be the
You really should clean the dogfood from your teeth before
you annunciate.
> most overused (f)lame) on the usenet. There'll come a time when you
> and others stupid enough to believe in this rotten Jew infested
> system, will be in for a rude awakening and will be too busy watching
> your world fall apart instead of 'projecting' (like a Jew) in usenet
> forums.
Only Jews project in newsgroups? Then why are you here?
>
> Race traitors such as yourself (that is, if you're actually White and
> not a hooknosed, rat faced, Khazaro-Edomite Satanic Seedline Jew or a
> bootlipped shabbes-nigger) and the kikes you worship will be swinging
> in the breeze! Believe you me! All it takes is an economic disaster
> coupled with a 'terrorist' attack which result in the government
> becoming more repressive, and 'Civil War II' will begin. You call
> Blutkrieg a 'crybaby' but neither you or that other pathetic excuse
> for a White Man, "Mr. Ocean" have bothered to refute him.
Whats to refute.? Maniacal ravings? They gotta make sense before
you can even have an intelligent conversation..
And 5 to 1 says you/sockpuppet and your idiot mentor haven't paid any
dues
to even begin to have the privilege of posting here and to real human
beings. So basically..Perhaps you should go soak your head/heads.
>
> Mark Swejlallik
> "IT'Z COMIN'! WAKE UP WHITE PEOPLE!"
>
> ps. Hey Mr. Ocean! Here's a little preview of what you can expect in
> the not-so-distant future of Sioux Falls from those Som00lians you
> have living among you. I hope this happens to you and other race
> traitors:
Babble on... If you have issues with this...perhaps you should converse
with "Lutheran Social Services" and the federal government. The
government
pays LSS approx $500 a head to administer their immigration to whatever
area of the USA is designated.. The US government pays for all expenses.
LSS is huge and sucks up millions of taxpayer dollars. The have a branch
in
Baltimore called "Lutheran Immigration Services". They travel oversees
and
set up the immigrations and refugee status.. All of this is in spite of
Seperation of Church and State. Have fun with this project.. They have
another Branch for your type...Called "Lutheran Legal Services
< I deleted and snipped your Nazi Propaganda... We don't allow spamming!
< I also sent in a spam abuse notification.. Have a nice day>
".
Mark Swejlallik
wrote:
>I was wondering how long it would be before the SOCKPUPPET
>showed up!
>
Think again dumbass. Grep my name in google and learn to read headers.
Mark Swejlallik
You really need to get some treatment for that Syphillis you got from
your nigger boyfreind. Those spirochetes have already started on
what's left of your brain.
>> most overused (f)lame) on the usenet. There'll come a time when you
>> and others stupid enough to believe in this rotten Jew infested
>> system, will be in for a rude awakening and will be too busy watching
>> your world fall apart instead of 'projecting' (like a Jew) in usenet
>> forums.
>
>Only Jews project in newsgroups? Then why are you here
Oh, how could I be so rude as not to include "Shabbes Goyim" race
traitors wannabe kike morons such as yourself?
>
>>
>> Race traitors such as yourself (that is, if you're actually White and
>> not a hooknosed, rat faced, Khazaro-Edomite Satanic Seedline Jew or a
>> bootlipped shabbes-nigger) and the kikes you worship will be swinging
>> in the breeze! Believe you me! All it takes is an economic disaster
>> coupled with a 'terrorist' attack which result in the government
>> becoming more repressive, and 'Civil War II' will begin. You call
>> Blutkrieg a 'crybaby' but neither you or that other pathetic excuse
>> for a White Man, "Mr. Ocean" have bothered to refute him.
>
>Whats to refute.? Maniacal ravings? They gotta make sense before
>you can even have an intelligent conversation..
So you think George W(higger) Bush and his rat-faced jew buddies make
sense?
>And 5 to 1 says you/sockpuppet and your idiot mentor haven't paid any
>dues
>to even begin to have the privilege of posting here and to real human
>beings. So basically..Perhaps you should go soak your head/heads.
Well, well, well, look at the self-righteous gasbag spout his
sanctimonious bull! "blah blah blah, I paid my dues! blah blah blah!"
That horsecrap may impress your Somali boyfreind but it has no effect
on us "de-judaized" White folks.
>> Mark Swejlallik
>> "IT'Z COMIN'! WAKE UP WHITE PEOPLE!"
>>
>> ps. Hey Mr. Ocean! Here's a little preview of what you can expect in
>> the not-so-distant future of Sioux Falls from those Som00lians you
>> have living among you. I hope this happens to you and other race
>> traitors:
>
>Babble on... If you have issues with this...perhaps you should converse
>with "Lutheran Social Services" and the federal government. The
>government
>pays LSS approx $500 a head to administer their immigration to whatever
>area of the USA is designated.. The US government pays for all expenses.
>LSS is huge and sucks up millions of taxpayer dollars. The have a branch
>in
>Baltimore called "Lutheran Immigration Services". They travel oversees
>and
>set up the immigrations and refugee status.. All of this is in spite of
>Seperation of Church and State. Have fun with this project.. They have
>another Branch for your type...Called "Lutheran Legal Services
The Lutherans have been thoroughly Judaized. Martin Luther is turning
over in his grave. Why would I need "Lutheran Legal Services"? Were
you assuming I was Lutheran? I'm Racial Covenant Identity. Stick to
watching your favorite $90 million niggerball player on the
TalmudVision.
I bet those Som00lians are already imagining you roasting over an open
fire. To that I say: Bon Appetit Niggers!
>
>< I deleted and snipped your Nazi Propaganda...
So? The message is still in the Google archives.
>We don't allow spamming!
>< I also sent in a spam abuse notification.. Have a nice day>
>"
"We don't allow"? Mr. Dipshit appears to be having delusions of
granduer! Are you in the process of converting to kike-ism? This
newsgroup is moderated? If so, the moderator is doing a poor job.
Spam? LOL! I've been netcopped by real Jews and I'm still around.
What makes you think you (a shabbes butt-goy) will fare any better?
Mark Swejlallik
--
http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com
Blutkrieg 88
> I was wondering how long it would be before the SOCKPUPPET
> showed up!
>
Dude, I take back what I said about you being a Jew. You're way too stupid.
<Snipped)
Blutkrieg 88
Blutkrieg 88
news:9e846dd93df1ea0b...@news.sonicnews.com:
> On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 17:41:11 -0500, Don Ocean <oc...@amerion.com>
> wrote:
>
>>I was wondering how long it would be before the SOCKPUPPET
>>showed up!
>>
>
> Think again dumbass. Grep my name in google and learn to read headers.
>
You know it's a good thing that halfwit is on their side. I just wish he
were of a different race so he wouldn't be an embarassment to us!
Blutkrieg 88
al953
<ziv...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:a416cbbf.0308...@posting.google.com...
> No, they really don't have a right to refuse to fight. You know that
> if you're told to go you go. PERIOD! (Or they'll go to jail.) That's
> just what the deal is. The only way one doesn't have to go and fight
> is if they don't enlist themselves.
>
Yes, they do. They enlisted to defend their country, not to commit war
crimes for the neocons & the zionist vermin!
Don Ocean
Mark Swejlallik wrote:
>
> On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 17:41:11 -0500, Don Ocean <oc...@amerion.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I was wondering how long it would be before the SOCKPUPPET
> >showed up!
> >
>
> Think again dumbass. Grep my name in google and learn to read headers.
To which penitentry will I be directed? ;-p
Actually I am 100% American.. My roots are Swiss/german ...And I don't
have a beef with any color, Nationality, religion..etc that live and let
live.
I do however have a beef with puffed up blowhards like you.. It has been
my
pleasure to help eliminate the world of such cancers. I doubt seriously
that you
have the stomach to do a face to face with your so-called Kikes, Niggers
etc.
I personally don't like such stereotyping. I bet your Mommy let you play
with dolls
to toughen you up! My Granddaughter(US military) would kick your puny
butt into next
year. And you would run crying home to your Mama!! ;-P
>
> >
> >>
> >> Race traitors such as yourself (that is, if you're actually White and
> >> not a hooknosed, rat faced, Khazaro-Edomite Satanic Seedline Jew or a
> >> bootlipped shabbes-nigger) and the kikes you worship will be swinging
> >> in the breeze! Believe you me! All it takes is an economic disaster
> >> coupled with a 'terrorist' attack which result in the government
> >> becoming more repressive, and 'Civil War II' will begin. You call
> >> Blutkrieg a 'crybaby' but neither you or that other pathetic excuse
> >> for a White Man, "Mr. Ocean" have bothered to refute him.
> >
> >Whats to refute.? Maniacal ravings? They gotta make sense before
> >you can even have an intelligent conversation..
>
> So you think George W(higger) Bush and his rat-faced jew buddies make
> sense?
Actually not until you showed up... The comparison actually makes Bush &
company
look like absolute genius's!
>
> >And 5 to 1 says you/sockpuppet and your idiot mentor haven't paid any
> >dues
> >to even begin to have the privilege of posting here and to real human
> >beings. So basically..Perhaps you should go soak your head/heads.
>
> Well, well, well, look at the self-righteous gasbag spout his
> sanctimonious bull! "blah blah blah, I paid my dues! blah blah blah!"
> That horsecrap may impress your Somali boyfreind but it has no effect
> on us "de-judaized" White folks.\
I note that you avoided answering the hard question.. In otherwords you
and Billy Klinton both avoided service to this great country. Sorry, but
you have
mot earned the right to converse with your betters in this forum.. Now
run along
and play...(on the freeway would be nice!) ;-p
>
> >> Mark Swejlallik
> >> "IT'Z COMIN'! WAKE UP WHITE PEOPLE!"
> >>
> >> ps. Hey Mr. Ocean! Here's a little preview of what you can expect in
> >> the not-so-distant future of Sioux Falls from those Som00lians you
> >> have living among you. I hope this happens to you and other race
> >> traitors:
> >
> >Babble on... If you have issues with this...perhaps you should converse
> >with "Lutheran Social Services" and the federal government. The
> >government
> >pays LSS approx $500 a head to administer their immigration to whatever
> >area of the USA is designated.. The US government pays for all expenses.
> >LSS is huge and sucks up millions of taxpayer dollars. The have a branch
> >in
> >Baltimore called "Lutheran Immigration Services". They travel oversees
> >and
> >set up the immigrations and refugee status.. All of this is in spite of
> >Seperation of Church and State. Have fun with this project.. They have
> >another Branch for your type...Called "Lutheran Legal Services
>
> The Lutherans have been thoroughly Judaized. Martin Luther is turning
> over in his grave. Why would I need "Lutheran Legal Services"? Were
> you assuming I was Lutheran? I'm Racial Covenant Identity.
Church of the covenant is merely a tax dodge used by the Arian
nations...So that they
can collect welfare and avoid real military service. About as
AntiAmerican as you can
get. American blacks and American Jews along with many others have
fought and died
in every war American has been in.. As for Lutheran Legal
Services...That was a warning
that they would stomp your idiot butt flat in court if you screwed with
them. Why don't
you pick a fight with the Mormans..They would, with great relish send a
Danite out to
convert your thinking. By the way your last name indicates Slavik
descent. I understood
that the real radical Arians and Teutons were also antiSlavik. Maybe you
shouldn't turn
your back on your Arian brotherhood!! ;-p
Stick to
> watching your favorite $90 million niggerball player on the
> TalmudVision.
>
> I bet those Som00lians are already imagining you roasting over an open
> fire. To that I say: Bon Appetit Niggers!
> >
>
> >< I deleted and snipped your Nazi Propaganda...
>
> So? The message is still in the Google archives.
>
> >We don't allow spamming!
> >< I also sent in a spam abuse notification.. Have a nice day>
> >"
> "We don't allow"? Mr. Dipshit appears to be having delusions of
> granduer! Are you in the process of converting to kike-ism? This
> newsgroup is moderated? If so, the moderator is doing a poor job.
> Spam? LOL! I've been netcopped by real Jews and I'm still around.
\
You are an embecile!! Your IP's TOS don't allow spamming.. I guess you
already
got the notice!
Don Ocean
So we smoked out the other personality again! So Butt-Krieg..are you
still
sending out Virii? I think Microsoft wants to talk to you.. ;-p
Don Ocean
Blutkrieg 88 wrote:
>
> Don Ocean <oc...@amerion.com> wrote in news:3F454A87...@amerion.com:
>
> > I was wondering how long it would be before the SOCKPUPPET
> > showed up!
> >
>
> Dude,
Dude?? Did you learn a new word... What are you 11 years old and still
not weaned?
I take back what I said about you being a Jew. You're way too stupid.
All this from an entity that still fills its diaper at regular
intervals...And when that
gets full, it runs out the top end to end up as a posting in the NG's
If your the enemy of the Jew and the Blacks...they certainly have
nothing to worry about.
Nice troll though Goldman..
>
> <Snipped)
>
> Blutkrieg 88
Mark Swejlallik
wrote:
Neither do I . . . I just would like to see those other races living
in their own countries where they pose no threat to the White Race.
Jews, on the other hand need to be deported to another planet . . . or
at least one of Jupiters moons.
>I do however have a beef with puffed up blowhards like you..
The jet-black pot, looking to the kettle and the silver screams
"Niggers!"
>It has been
>my
>pleasure to help eliminate the world of such cancers. I doubt seriously
>that you
>have the stomach to do a face to face with your so-called Kikes, Niggers
>etc.
>I personally don't like such stereotyping. I bet your Mommy let you play
>with dolls
>to toughen you up! My Granddaughter(US military) would kick your puny
>butt into next
>year. And you would run crying home to your Mama!! ;-P
Nonsense! Your grand daughter will be too busy raising her mullato
offspring . . .
Ocean's Grandaughter: Hello Dad! I just got married!
Donny Ocean: I'm so happy for you! Now it won't be long before I'm a
great grandfather! Woohoo!
Ocean's Grandaughter: Uh . .. I don't think you'll have to wait that
long . . . meet my husband Leroy and my sons, Malik and Tryone! Say
hello guys!
The Groidz: Waaaaazzzzzzuuuuuup!!!!!!!
Donny: . . . . . . . .
>> >
>> >Whats to refute.? Maniacal ravings? They gotta make sense before
>> >you can even have an intelligent conversation..
>>
>> So you think George W(higger) Bush and his rat-faced jew buddies make
>> sense?
>
>Actually not until you showed up... The comparison actually makes Bush &
>company
>look like absolute genius's!
You really shouldn't attack someone else's intelligence when your
misuse of apostrophes make your messages appear as if a drunken nigger
posted them.
>
>
>>
>> >And 5 to 1 says you/sockpuppet and your idiot mentor haven't paid any
>> >dues
>> >to even begin to have the privilege of posting here and to real human
>> >beings. So basically..Perhaps you should go soak your head/heads.
>>
>> Well, well, well, look at the self-righteous gasbag spout his
>> sanctimonious bull! "blah blah blah, I paid my dues! blah blah blah!"
>> That horsecrap may impress your Somali boyfreind but it has no effect
>> on us "de-judaized" White folks.\
>
>I note that you avoided answering the hard question.. In otherwords you
>and Billy Klinton both avoided service to this great country. Sorry, but
>you have
>mot earned the right to converse with your betters in this forum.. Now
>run along
>and play...(on the freeway would be nice!) ;-p
>>
I put up with eight years of bongoids, beaners, 'multiculturalism
/diverSHITTY' and race mixing in ZOG's Air Force. Your 'hard'
question wasn't avoided - just ignored for the self-righteous bullshit
(like everything you post) it is -- as if that makes you any less of a
whigger or legitmizes your "points". "I served mah country!" says the
braindead CONservative whigger. No, you served ZOG. "Patriots"
flaunting their military credentials come off like Al Bundy (the
archetype of Boobus Americanus Whiggerus) constantly going on about
his high school football years. Big deal. Prisons are full of Groid
and Mexishit gangbangers who've also served.
<snipped>
>Church of the covenant is merely a tax dodge used by the Arian
>nations...So that they
>can collect welfare and avoid real military service. About as
>AntiAmerican as you can
>get. American blacks and American Jews along with many others have
>fought and died
>in every war American has been in.. As for Lutheran Legal
>Services...That was a warning
>that they would stomp your idiot butt flat in court if you screwed with
>them. Why don't
>you pick a fight with the Mormans..They would, with great relish send a
>Danite out to
>convert your thinking.
Why would I need a warning? What gives you the impression I would
"screw" with them? There's a chance when the malodorous waste matter
hits the proverbial fan, those Lutherans in the northern states may
become our allies. You're an idiot to the extreme.
> By the way your last name indicates Slavik
>descent.
Nope. Baltic. Estonian to be exact.
>I understood
>that the real radical Arians and Teutons were also antiSlavik. Maybe you
>shouldn't turn
>your back on your Arian brotherhood!! ;-p
LOL! I don't believe it! A whigger shabbes goy trying tell a true
white man about his heritage. I'm not a "National Socialist" in any
sense of the word. I know the Jew Tube and the kikes you see on it,
label anyone who cares about the White Race and sees the Jews for the
murderous, nation destroying, parasites they are, as a "Nazi".
I respect Adolf Hitler but I don't worship or deify him. The early
Klan during the "reconstruction" period is more of an inspiration to
me. I aslo look to Yahshua the Christ who will return and destroy the
literal spawn of satan - the cursed Yehudi known as Jews!
I suggest you do a little net-research about White Nationalism and
stop watching Jerry Springer (God's Chosen Jew?) on your TalmudVision
(aka The "One Eyed Electronic Jew". The "Hitler didn't like Slavs"
mantra does not apply to modern White Nationalism. Hitler wasn't the
be all and end all of White Power. White Nationalism is dynamic and
diverse. Modern White Power movements whose members are SERIOUS (not
hobbyists) are not marred by old intra-European prejudices as most
racially aware Whites know the Teutons, Slavs and Celts are
intermingled.
>You are an embecile!! Your IP's TOS don't allow spamming..
LOL! You need a clue-by-four upside that head of yours. You're the
one who said "WE" don't allow spam . . . who is "we"? You and your
bone-in-the-nose Som00lian boyfreind?
Let's see how "spam" is defined, shall we?
"Spam, defined as commercial messages posted to non-commercial
newsgroups, off-topic posts to a newsgroup, or large-scale redundant
posts . . . " - http://www.hsnp.com/news.html
Was my politically incorrect message commercial in nature? No!
Was it off-topic? No!
Large-scale redundant i.e. repeated postings of the same message? No!
>I guess you
>already got the notice!
You guessed wrong. I'm still here . . . much to your dismay.
Don Ocean
Mark Swejlallik wrote:
Sorry folks...My mistake! I thought we had a dyed-in-the-wool "Aryan
Nations Brotherhood" type.
I was wrong ...Its a lower then scum Klanner!
<Snipped long dull antihuman slobber by a wannabe Klanner>
He would make a nice violent pet for some Antisemite though. No real
teeth...
Just a lotta bark!! ;-P
Mark Swejlallik
wrote:
>
>
>Mark Swejlallik wrote:
>
>Sorry folks...My mistake! I thought we had a dyed-in-the-wool "Aryan
>Nations Brotherhood" type.
>I was wrong ...Its a lower then scum Klanner!
>
I never said I was in the Klan. Like most Whiggers, you don't know
what the hell you're talking about (much like the garden variety
nigger 'intellectual') . . . .
><Snipped long dull antihuman slobber by a wannabe Klanner>
>
>He would make a nice violent pet for some Antisemite though. No real
>teeth...
>Just a lotta bark!! ;-P
Call me what you will but at least I'm not some drooling wannabe
bootlipped shitskin nigger like you. I hope you enjoy you little
nappyheaded nigglet inlaws and grand children . . .
Mark Swejlallik
Hardcore Jew Hater and Bane of Race Traitors
Mark Swejlallik
wrote:
>
>
>Mark Swejlallik wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 19:01:32 -0500, Don Ocean <oc...@amerion.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >Mark Swejlallik wrote:
>> >
>> >Sorry folks...My mistake! I thought we had a dyed-in-the-wool "Aryan
>> >Nations Brotherhood" type.
>> >I was wrong ...Its a lower then scum Klanner!
>
>First you said you were a member of church of the concourse(Aryan
>Brotherhood)
>then you indicated the Klan...Now you claim independent thought(thats a
>joke~)
I never said anything like that Mr. Illiterate. I said I am "Dual
Seedline Racial Covenant Identity". Read that again. That's a belief,
not a Church or group requiring membership. Aryan Brotherhood? I
never indicated that either. In fact that's a prison gang. Old Klan?
I'm inspired by them, but not a member. Membership in open
organizations is not a good thing as they are often infiltrated by
feds.
You don't read very well do you? Niggers straight from the trees of
Bongostan with the bones still in their noses look like geniuses
compared to to you. You're a world class idiot. Something tells me
you're not a very high-ranking Mason judging from your reading
(non)comprension skills.
>Then you stated 8 years in someones airforce..Obviously not the USAF as
>you
>are not one file at the Bureau of Veterans Affairs. And if you had 8
>years in our
>airforce...Its obvious you were kicked out or you would have finished to
>19 years
>6 months.
Boy, not only are you stupid. You're also obsessed with me. If I want
to know anything about anyone (which is rare) I drop their name in a
search engine. You actually called the Bureau of Veteran's Affairs?
DUMBASS! HAHAHAHAAA! Just how bad did I get under your skin?
Heheheheheh!
How closely have you examined my last name? Read it closely. You're
getting warmer. Read it upside down, sideways - in every direction.
It's amazing how much flies over your head so easily. Moron. If you
figure it out, I'll be amazed. I actually surprised you bothered to
look me up. I guess your stint with the Imperial Israeli Occupied
Armed Forces of the JewNited Snakes of Ameri-kwa really means the
world to you. You're a half-turn from those bogus Militia generals I
used to see at meetings strutting their stuff in their uniforms
talking about what they did in the military. Thankfully the hardcore
militias (mainy TWO SEEDLINE RACIAL COVENANT IDENTITY) have gone
underground and are waiting for the right time (when things really go
to shit under a Democrat president) to thrust the blade into ZOG's
belly. Go to a search engine and type "Leaderless Resistance Louis
Beam". You might actually learn something (fat chance).
Too bad your military training won't do you any good when the shit
hits the fan. Why? When the feds come to confiscate you firearms
(and THEY WILL) and there's a RepubliCUNT (conservative in name only
like Dubya) in the Whitehouse who swears "It'll be temporary" and for
your safety, you'll be the first to turn your weapons in. They come
for my weapons, they will be like myself - nowhere to be found! >:-)
I was in for 8 years and found it to be bullshit for the reasons I
described in another post. I did the smart thing and told Uncle Sam to
kiss my White ass. Perhaps you were in the Military when it was still
larglely white (higher standards) and wasn't infected with political
correctness.
>As for the blacks ..
Obviously smarter than you (for what they are). They can't help but
act the way they do. It's in their genes.
> I guess they are safe from an inferior
>being such
>as yourself. You would probably get a perfect score on a Mensa test...
>ZERO!!
>I guess your other personality is out getting lunch out of a garbage
>can.
This coming from someone with reading comprehension of a pile of
stepped in pigshit who talks about things of which he knows nothing
(various White Power groups) as if he were an authority. The blacks
wouldn't be a problem with me if they were living in their own
countries where they can rape, loot and eat each other in peace. You
on the other hand, need to move to Israel along with the rest of
Satan's Seed (the Cursed Yehudi) -- you know, get you all in one place
then nuke it.
>By the
>way ...Do you hate blacks because one made you his bitch in military
>prison?
>If so!! It just shows he had extremely bad taste.. ;-p So Goldie..Go
>back to
>trolling in the appropriate NG's.
>
>
Now I see! Ol' Donny boy is projecting his fantasies of interracial
cornholing . . . not much of a surprise considering you're one of
those ring-knocking Sodomite Masons.
What's wrong? Someone hold up a mirror to you and expose your
non-Whiteness? You know that same Whiteness you probably wrap
yourself in when it's convenient . . . I wish I had a nickel for every
psuedo-patriotic moron (too stupid to know whatever helps the kikes is
bad news for Whites) coming to pro-white forums screaming "bomb the
ragheads!" as if they would get support from the regulars.
I know RJ Goldman was your obsession. Now it's me. I used to route
for you when you and he would argue. That's why I'm surprised you'd
be pro- George W. Buschowitz and for this Jewish orchestrated war in
Iraq.
I don't see how anyone in their right mind can have no problem with
American kids (many of them WHITE) dying for a L-I-E and in the
interests of a foreign power (I-S-R-A-E-L). Anyone who fails to see
otherwise is either woefully ignorant and have no idea of what the
elders of zion have in store for them, or are simply jews,
race-traitors or have some other vested interest in the system.
Mark Swejlallik
checkout http://users.mo-net.com/mlindste/ledrless.html
Don Ocean
Mark Swejlallik wrote:
>
> On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 23:28:29 -0500, Don Ocean <oc...@amerion.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >Mark Swejlallik wrote:
> >First you said you were a member of church of the concourse(Aryan
> >Brotherhood)
> >then you indicated the Klan...Now you claim independent thought(thats a
> >joke~)
> I never said anything like that Mr. Illiterate. I said I am "Dual
> Seedline Racial Covenant Identity". Read that again. That's a belief,
> not a Church or group requiring membership. Aryan Brotherhood? I
> never indicated that either. In fact that's a prison gang. Old Klan?
> I'm inspired by them, but not a member. Membership in open
> organizations is not a good thing as they are often infiltrated by
> feds.
>
> You don't read very well do you? Niggers straight from the trees of
> Bongostan with the bones still in their noses look like geniuses
> compared to to you.
I wish you would make up that miniscule pea you call a mind. Now you are
admiring the
the black folks...Amd before you were calling them bad things.
I didn't know there were low to high ranking Masons...Do tell me more..
Your ignorance is very entertaining.
judging from your reading
> (non)comprension skills.
Comprehension is the word you were seeking.. I do regret that you have
such a problem with any word with more then one sylable.
>
> >Then you stated 8 years in someones airforce..Obviously not the USAF as
> >you
> >are not one file at the Bureau of Veterans Affairs. And if you had 8
> >years in our
> >airforce...Its obvious you were kicked out or you would have finished to
> >19 years
> >6 months.
>
> Boy, not only are you stupid. You're also obsessed with me. If I want
> to know anything about anyone (which is rare) I drop their name in a
> search engine. You actually called the Bureau of Veteran's Affairs?
> DUMBASS! HAHAHAHAAA! Just how bad did I get under your skin?
> Heheheheheh!
Actually I do a great deal of research in Veterans records. Its
a necessary function. But it is interesting to prove what a lying
sack of crap your are!! ;-p
>
> How closely have you examined my last name? Read it closely. You're
> getting warmer. Read it upside down, sideways - in every direction.
> It's amazing how much flies over your head so easily. Moron. If you
> figure it out, I'll be amazed. I actually surprised you bothered to
> look me up. I guess your stint with the Imperial Israeli Occupied
> Armed Forces of the JewNited Snakes of Ameri-kwa really means the
> world to you
Like I said..If you have issues with those folks...Take it up with them!
I am sure they will gladly listen to your spewed hatred and treat you
accordingly.
You're a half-turn from those bogus Militia generals I
> used to see at meetings strutting their stuff in their uniforms
> talking about what they did in the military. Thankfully the hardcore
> militias (mainy TWO SEEDLINE RACIAL COVENANT IDENTITY) have gone
> underground
You/They were so brain dead..that someone buried them?? ;-p
and are waiting for the right time (when things really go
> to shit under a Democrat president) to thrust the blade into ZOG's
> belly. Go to a search engine and type "Leaderless Resistance Louis
> Beam". You might actually learn something (fat chance).
>
> Too bad your military training won't do you any good when the shit
> hits the fan. Why? When the feds come to confiscate you firearms
> (and THEY WILL) and there's a RepubliCUNT (conservative in name only
> like Dubya) in the Whitehouse who swears "It'll be temporary" and for
> your safety, you'll be the first to turn your weapons in. They come
> for my weapons, they will be like myself - nowhere to be found! >:-)
>
> I was in for 8 years and found it to be bullshit for the reasons
Not on record!! ;-P Do you really think that my research was cursory?
I have been at this a long time and am very good at it.
> described in another post. I did the smart thing and told Uncle Sam to
> kiss my White ass.
Sam would have given you a section 8 discharge if you had actually been
in service.
Perhaps you were in the Military when it was still
> larglely white (higher standards) and wasn't infected with political
> correctness.
One of the finest fireteams I ever ran across was black and career!!
I guess it beats Your Fathers incestuous relationship with his sister..
Your mother...Just how many generations has this been going on?
>
> I know RJ Goldman was your obsession. Now it's me. I used to route
> for you when you and he would argue. That's why I'm surprised you'd
> be pro- George W. Buschowitz and for this Jewish orchestrated war in
> Iraq.
>
>
> Mark Swejlallik
Mark Swejlallik
wrote:
>
>
>Mark Swejlallik wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 23:28:29 -0500, Don Ocean <oc...@amerion.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >Mark Swejlallik wrote:
>
>> >First you said you were a member of church of the concourse(Aryan
>> >Brotherhood)
>> >then you indicated the Klan...Now you claim independent thought(thats a
>> >joke~)
>> I never said anything like that Mr. Illiterate. I said I am "Dual
>> Seedline Racial Covenant Identity". Read that again. That's a belief,
>> not a Church or group requiring membership. Aryan Brotherhood? I
>> never indicated that either. In fact that's a prison gang. Old Klan?
>> I'm inspired by them, but not a member. Membership in open
>> organizations is not a good thing as they are often infiltrated by
>> feds.
>>
>> You don't read very well do you? Niggers straight from the trees of
>> Bongostan with the bones still in their noses look like geniuses
>> compared to to you.
>
>I wish you would make up that miniscule pea you call a mind. Now you are
>admiring the
>the black folks...Amd before you were calling them bad things.
Re-read the message. Niggers are niggers. They can't help it.
Despite what they are, they're still smarter than you (considering
what they are). Poor attempt at word twisting noted.
>
>I didn't know there were low to high ranking Masons...Do tell me more..
>Your ignorance is very entertaining.
Rankings, levels, degrees whatever. You've already proven you have
the English reading skills of a spabook fresh out of the Congo. 2nd
Poor attempt at word twisting noted.
>
> judging from your reading
>> (non)comprension skills.
>
>Comprehension is the word you were seeking.. I do regret that you have
>such a problem with any word with more then one sylable.
Big fucking deal. It's called a "typo" you functionally illiterate
fuckstick. Desperate "reaching for a reply" action noted.
>>
>> >Then you stated 8 years in someones airforce..Obviously not the USAF as
>> >you
>> >are not one file at the Bureau of Veterans Affairs. And if you had 8
>> >years in our
>> >airforce...Its obvious you were kicked out or you would have finished to
>> >19 years
>> >6 months.
>>
>> Boy, not only are you stupid. You're also obsessed with me. If I want
>> to know anything about anyone (which is rare) I drop their name in a
>> search engine. You actually called the Bureau of Veteran's Affairs?
>> DUMBASS! HAHAHAHAAA! Just how bad did I get under your skin?
>> Heheheheheh!
>
>Actually I do a great deal of research in Veterans records. Its
>a necessary function. But it is interesting to prove what a lying
>sack of crap your are!! ;-p
No lies. You're just stupid. Are you sure you ain't at least 1/4
negro? You sure like to dance alot . . . .wait! YOU ARE A NEGRO! I
remember that singing negro "Billy Ocean" from the 80s. Are you his
father?
>
>>
>> How closely have you examined my last name? Read it closely. You're
>> getting warmer. Read it upside down, sideways - in every direction.
>> It's amazing how much flies over your head so easily. Moron. If you
>> figure it out, I'll be amazed. I actually surprised you bothered to
>> look me up. I guess your stint with the Imperial Israeli Occupied
>> Armed Forces of the JewNited Snakes of Ameri-kwa really means the
>> world to you
>
>Like I said..If you have issues with those folks...Take it up with them!
>I am sure they will gladly listen to your spewed hatred and treat you
>accordingly.
>
Slow in the uptake you are. I knew I was asking way too much when I
told you to read my name in every direction. Try it again or have
someone read it for you. For the first time in your life you'll get
the one thing which has always avoided you: A clue.
> You're a half-turn from those bogus Militia generals I
>> used to see at meetings strutting their stuff in their uniforms
>> talking about what they did in the military. Thankfully the hardcore
>> militias (mainy TWO SEEDLINE RACIAL COVENANT IDENTITY) have gone
>> underground
>
>You/They were so brain dead..that someone buried them?? ;-p
Wow! I'm rather impressed. Nice dodge. It appears you re-read the
messages in this thread again and found out "Damn! The little bastard
didn't claim to be with any group! Aw shucks! I don't wanna have to
admit to that little shit he was right!"
At least you didn't try to back-pedal. Here's a silver star!
> and are waiting for the right time (when things really go
>> to shit under a Democrat president) to thrust the blade into ZOG's
>> belly. Go to a search engine and type "Leaderless Resistance Louis
>> Beam". You might actually learn something (fat chance).
>>
>> Too bad your military training won't do you any good when the shit
>> hits the fan. Why? When the feds come to confiscate you firearms
>> (and THEY WILL) and there's a RepubliCUNT (conservative in name only
>> like Dubya) in the Whitehouse who swears "It'll be temporary" and for
>> your safety, you'll be the first to turn your weapons in. They come
>> for my weapons, they will be like myself - nowhere to be found! >:-)
>>
>> I was in for 8 years and found it to be bullshit for the reasons
>
>Not on record!! ;-P Do you really think that my research was cursory?
>I have been at this a long time and am very good at it.
No need to toot your own horn. Read my last name again. DO I HAVE TO
SPELL IT OUT FOR YOU? It's a wonder you're able to post usenet
messages all by your lonesome! Your inability to notice the obvious
"nature" of my name doesn't do much justice to your claim of being
"very good" at research. My name (depending on which direction you
want to read it) is VERY anti-semitic. It's not what it appears.
>
>> described in another post. I did the smart thing and told Uncle Sam to
>> kiss my White ass.
>
>Sam would have given you a section 8 discharge if you had actually been
>in service.
I would say the same about you but your brain isn't complex enough to
have anything go wrong with it. I'm surprised you haven't noticed
that stinging, sharp pain in the roof of your mouth son. My name says
it all. When it is finally revealed to you, you'll either laugh or
you'll be pissed as hell (if you're arrogant).
>
> Perhaps you were in the Military when it was still
>> larglely white (higher standards) and wasn't infected with political
>> correctness.
>
>One of the finest fireteams I ever ran across was black and career!!
Niggers are good at killing people. They can also figure out my name .
. . ask a dsylexic to help you with the name. Only idiots post their
real names on the usenet - especially when their usenet pastime is
pissing people off.
>>
>> Now I see! Ol' Donny boy is projecting his fantasies of interracial
>> cornholing . . . not much of a surprise considering you're one of
>> those ring-knocking Sodomite Masons.
>
>I guess it beats Your Fathers incestuous relationship with his sister..
>Your mother...Just how many generations has this been going on?
Oooooh! Look at the gem Ol' Donny boy dug up from the "trailer trash"
book of overused (f)lames. What next? "Yo Mama" jokes when the 1/4
negro part of you takes over?
It'll come to you . . .not right away but it will. >:-)
Mark Swejlallik (read name the way those A-Rabs do- Hint! Hint! Now
I'm gonna see if you fuck this up too! BWAHAHAHAHHHAAHAHHAAAAA!!!! If
it comes to you, I'll take back most of my attacks on your
intelligence! Even the hebes in the yid groups haven't figured it out
yet!)
>>
>> I know RJ Goldman was your obsession. Now it's me. I used to route
>> for you when you and he would argue. That's why I'm surprised you'd
>> be pro- George W. Buschowitz and for this Jewish orchestrated war in
>> Iraq.
>>
>>
>> Mark Swejlallik
Don Ocean
Mark Swejlallik wrote:
> Mark Swejlallik (read name the way those A-Rabs do- Hint! Hint! Now
> I'm gonna see if you fuck this up too! BWAHAHAHAHHHAAHAHHAAAAA!!!! If
> it comes to you, I'll take back most of my attacks on your
> intelligence! Even the hebes in the yid groups haven't figured it out
> yet!)
I take it that your afraid to post your hate in the clear...Are you
afraid
of the very people that you are disrespecting? You really ought to be
on
Springers show..
As for the communication between myself and Goldman...Well it wasn't
because
he was of the Jewish bloodline. My dispute with that person is the
Killing of
US Navy Seaman in 1967. And I don't particularly have much patience with
Anti-Gentile-Zion-Nazi's. If they wish to fight for Israel...Then they
belong
IN Israel. There is no way that anyone should hold US citizenship if
they
owe fialty to any other nation...That could one day be our enemy. And
dual
citizenship is not universal..thereby it is immoral and illegal under
the
legal clause justice and equality for all(referring only to US citizens)
I also think its time for the US taxpayer to be relieved of the burden
of
supporting Isreal.. They have had since 1947 to make peace with their
semitic
brethen...the Arabs!
Why do you post in Christian groups.?..Obviously you are not following
the teachings of Christ!!
As for the Zion-Nazi's...You appear to have more in common with them
then you admit! ;-p