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Heinrich

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Dec 8, 2005, 11:50:34 PM12/8/05
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The Hague - A Dutch secret agent left two disks containing compromising
information on politicians' private lives in a rented vehicle on Thursday.

Dutch daily, the Volkskrant, says most of the intelligence centres on the
sex life of the late populist leader Pim Fortuyn.

Fortuyn was assassinated by an animal rights activist in May 2002, days
before his List Pim Fortuyn party was poised to win parliamentary elections.

Fortuyn was always open about his homosexuality, expressing a preference for
Moroccan men.

The forgotten disks are now in the hands of SBS6 TV network journalist Peter
De Vries.

The disks show the AIVD intelligence agency was interested in the populist
leader's sexual exploits with Moroccan minors between 1994 and 2002.

Besides Fortuyn's sex life, the disks have information on far-right groups
and environmental activists.

The Dutch intelligence services have summoned de Vries to return the disks.

He faces a 15-year jail sentence for allegedly revealing state secrets.


Save Our Souls from Heinrich's Bullshit

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Dec 10, 2005, 6:20:48 AM12/10/05
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Heinrich should have written:

Denying the Soviet Holocaust
By Stephen Schwartz Published 12/09/2005


On Monday, December 5, The Wall Street Journal published a major
commentary by Robert Conquest, the dean of historians on Soviet tyranny
and, for some of us, one of the greatest living moral exemplars in the
world. Few authors have written so much and so well on the horrors of
Communism.

In a column titled "Stalinophilia," Conquest described the case of a
minor Italian academic, Luciano Canfora, who has managed to publish a
pro-Soviet account of 20th century politics, called in its original
tongue "Democracy: History of an Ideology." Canfora's volume has come
out in Italy, France, Spain and England. It is due to appear in the
U.S. next month under the more neutral title "Democracy in Europe: A
History."

A German publisher declined to issue the book, and has been accused of
"censorship," as if the exercise by a private business of its right not
to print and distribute a particular text is somehow a denial of press
freedom. Obviously, if Canfora's contribution had any merit, it could
be published in Germany by another enterprise. But a Swiss journalist,
Joachim Guntner, noted the objectionable character of the work, which
never mentions the word "gulag" but attacks the U.S. for alleged
support of fascism around the world. A German leftist denounced
Canfora's "dogmatic stupidity."

Canfora's professorial credentials reside in the field of Greek and
Roman studies, not that of modern politics. Misadventures by tenured
fools are hardly news. Nor is campus nostalgia for the intellectual
mischief of the Stalin era. In that dark time, democracy, along with
modernist art, psychoanalysis, 20th century developments in physics,
popular culture, and the established labor and socialist movements were
routinely vilified by the robotically-conditioned ranks of the world's
Communist parties.

Hitler would never have gained power without the implicit approval of
Moscow, which restrained its German adherents from uniting with the
social-democratic masses to oppose the Nazis. Stalin and Hitler openly
allied against the democracies from August 1939 to June 1941,
permitting the Russians to occupy such territories as the Baltic states
and Moldova. Only this week, the neo-Stalinist Vladimir Putin prevailed
on the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) --
which has a history of political corruption and mismanagement in
postwar Bosnia-Hercegovina and Kosovo, as well as rampant
anti-Americanism, even though the U.S. is an OSCE member -- to let
Russian troops remain on the impoverished territory of Moldova, the
last trophy of Stalin's romance with Hitler.

A renewed contempt for democracy has been visible in global politics
since the middle 1970s, when the end of authoritarianism in Spain and
Portugal revived the fantasies of small coteries of radical
intellectuals. Faced with the obvious triumph of capitalism, public
accountability, and popular sovereignty in these former dictatorships,
leftist revolutionaries, who could not escape their own "oppositional"
mental prison, began questioning the value of democracy itself. In
France, some of them turned into Nazi Holocaust deniers. An
antidemocratic idiom was then fostered by the Soviet Communist party,
which reintroduced the traditional Muscovite idiom of violent
Jew-baiting.


After Communism crashed in turn, the remnants of the Soviet
nomenklatura merged with existing and "new" neo-Nazi trends to form a
"red-brown alliance" of Communists and Hitlerians -- against
capitalism, the Jews, and the West in general. Communism and fascism,
as in 1939-41, once again appeared indistinguishable from one another.
So-called "conservative" isolationists in the U.S. defended such bloody
dictators as Slobodan Milosevic in Serbia, where "humanist Marxists"
one day suddenly opted for rabid ultranationalism. This situation may
change as racists in countries like Britain and France seize the
initiative in attacking local Muslims, as a substitute for their
historic Jewish target; by contrast, the decrepit left has rallied to
the defense of Saddam Hussein, and even offered support for Zarqawi's
terrorists, as well as Wahhabism in Saudi Arabia.

I was interested, however, to note that Conquest's polemic against
Canfora coincided with a brief item in the Daily Telegraph of London,
dated December 1, reporting that the parliament of the Czech Republic
is considering whether it should be a criminal offense, punishable by a
three-year prison term, to deny the atrocities of Communism. This
piquant item seems to answer a question implied by Conquest: what
distinction may be made between a denier of the Nazi Holocaust and a
denier of the Soviet Holocaust? (The immediate difference is that the
latter will get a university teaching job without hiding his or her
views.)

I have never been a supporter of any legal restriction, aside from
libel laws, on speech or writing, no matter how repellent it may be. I
am opposed to the censorship of al-Qaida and similar internet sites,
because as an activist opponent of Islamist extremism I need to track
and study the enemy; I have also been opposed to laws against Holocaust
denial because I believe it is more important to expose the moral
treachery of such a posture than to pretend, according to canons of
political correctness, that such hallucinated discourse does not exist.
And while living in Bosnia-Hercegovina and Kosovo, I have opposed
restrictions on hate speech because I believe it is better for rage to
be vented than suppressed. A great thinker once argued that liberty is
defined by its preservation for what we oppose, not what we approve.
The point is undeniable.

Nevertheless? also because I lived in ex-Yugoslavia, and have
personally seen the baleful effects of Stalinism in Romania, Albania,
and Poland, the Czech adoption of a law against denial of the Soviet
Holocaust is more than provocative. It is tempting. Suppression of the
truth about Stalinism was the main characteristic of global
intellectual life throughout the four and a half decades from 1945 to
1990. The left falsely claimed that Russia wanted peace, when Slavic
imperialism planned and executed continuous aggressive adventures, from
the attempted coup in Greece in 1944 to the experiments in
totalitarianism that have continued in Cuba and a handful of other
countries. Today Castro urges on Hugo Chavez, a profound embarrassment
to Venezuela, just as the Russians manipulated the leftist military
dictatorship in Guatemala in the 1940s.

For its part, most of the right was so wedded to "realism" that an
accommodation with Soviet expansionism -- containment rather than
liberation, to paraphrase the immortal formulation of James Burnham --
was made to seem inevitable and salutary. The horror of the Soviet
legacy -- in which mass purges, the betrayal of the Spanish Republic in
that country's 1936-39 civil war, the assassination of exiles
including, but not limited to Trotsky, and similar atrocities, had
competed with the brutalities of Hitler, Mussolini, and the Japanese
imperialists -- was largely forgotten. Only a few individuals in the
West, among them Robert Conquest, broke the consensus about Sovietism.

To see the respectable caste of mediocrities in Western media and
academia exposed as liars and charlatans -- those who still insist, to
cite a few examples, that the so-called International Brigades in the
Spanish civil war were heroes rather than secret police murderers; that
the banal Russian spy Alger Hiss was innocent; that the evil Rosenbergs
who helped hand Stalin the atom bomb were victims of prejudice; that
the so-called Hollywood blacklist, in which a few people lost
opportunities for employment, was comparable with the Soviet purges in
which millions were slain -- that would be something, to say the least.
To see this reptile breed (as Trotsky once described the writers of The
Nation magazine) called to account for a generation's worth of history
betrayed, hope prostituted, and ideals treated as a pretext for
belly-crawling propaganda? is, to repeat, tempting. Perhaps too
tempting.

The Hiss case is especially germane to this discussion. That is because
much conclusive evidence about Alger Hiss was disclosed long after the
original Hiss affair of the 1940s. It showed Hiss and his circle to be
wretched traitors and accomplices of terror. And this evidence
originated in the files of the Czech Communist Party and the statements
of a fellow-spy of Hiss named Noel Field, who was once notorious but is
now forgotten.

I intend, at least, to find out if the Czech law passes the country's
upper legislative house, whether foreigners will have standing to enter
complaints against other foreigners under Prague's "Soviet Holocaust
denial" law. As much as I am, to repeat, opposed to any restriction on
spoken and printed argument, to see the issues debated in a Czech
courtroom, with someone like Noam Chomsky or Victor Navasky as a
defendant, would be memorable, to say the least. Even as we protect the
rights of those we despise, some people undeniably need to learn that
arguments have consequences. At least in today's Czech courts, unlike
those of Stalin, the defendants can be expected to get a fair hearing.


Copyright © 2005 Tech Central Station - www.techcentralstation.com

Don Ocean

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Dec 10, 2005, 1:09:48 PM12/10/05
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Write all the bullshit you want...But it still boils down to one
motivating force. The Jews... Without their avarice and massive
humanity consuming greed there would have been no 2 world wars
and no Hitler. Its GodDamned time the Jews took responsibility
for their own actions. Count the multiple millions of good folks
of every country the world over that died, were maimed or lost
family and loved ones in that! It far surpasses the whine about
the Jewish holocaust. Its time for the pagan Jews to shut the Hell
up and start doing good works as penance! There are Gentiles that
were open to Jewish corruption that share this Massive guilt! In
fact making a lasting peace with their neighbors in the middle east
would a good start. I do wonder how much American blood has been shed
for this despotic state of Israel and its criminal minions the world
over. New York Jews should be expelled just for money influenzing our
political leaders into this bloody quagmire in Iraq! I don't like
crossposting, but I will leave in your crosspost of Israel. By the way
you may blame Russia all you want... But since the Jewish Bolsheviks
tortured and murdered the Christian Czar and his entire Aryan family...
I don't think the blame lies with the Russian bloodlines Persay. Russia
had no hand in establishing Hitler in Germany. Anything the Bolshevik
Jews did in Russia was typical of all greedy Jews... Only for
themselves! When you people throw off your pagan beliefs and start
acting like real human beings. Do get back with me.. But I have no hope
of that happening. It must be an insanity DNA thing with you!

A realist goy

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Dec 11, 2005, 6:03:04 PM12/11/05
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What nice tirage full of hatred and void of any facts nor truth. There
are greedy people all over the world, without any distinction of race,
sex, religion and position, with perhaps a small exception within the
White Patriots and some members of today's U.S. Government.

In any case, you ought to join, or at least contribute to the ADL: Anti
Defamation League
http://www.adl.org/default.htm

Perhaps that your life could change for the better.

Don Ocean

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Dec 11, 2005, 9:35:16 PM12/11/05
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Actually you promote dislike by posting your Jewish propaganda in this
News Group... You as usual are way off topic and this is *not* a jewish
group. Actually I think you do tremendous harm to the Jewish cause, just
by inundating us with your crap. We all know what a blood bath you have
put the poorest of the poor Palestinians through. And we are aware of
the torture rooms that tens of thousands of Young Jewish soldiers have
long been aware of, but unlike America and Switzerland have not lodged
one word of dissent!~

All of this of course is now being monitored by your ISP and I also
required mine to do the same.


>
> In any case, you ought to join, or at least contribute to the ADL: Anti
> Defamation League
> http://www.adl.org/default.htm
>
> Perhaps that your life could change for the better.

If you Jews would not commit such Heinous crimes, there would be no need
for your ADL. Americans don't have one, Switzerland doesn't have one.
You people are the only people that seem to have need for one.

And I have no need to be so rude as to cross post to more then one
on topic NG... But I am leaving your crossposting in as an excellent
example of the Propaganda machine!

>

br...@indystart.com

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Dec 12, 2005, 2:56:01 PM12/12/05
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Don Ocean wrote:
> A realist goy wrote:
> > Don Ocean wrote:
> >
>

<deleted more unproven claims>

I asked you for proof of your claim that the USA had submarines
cruising in SE Asian waters during the Vietnam War.


WHERE IS IT???????????????????????????????????????????

Heinrich

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Dec 12, 2005, 3:50:54 PM12/12/05
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<br...@indystart.com> schreef in bericht
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they lost their way


Don Ocean

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Dec 12, 2005, 4:32:58 PM12/12/05
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br...@indystart.com wrote:
> Don Ocean wrote:
>
>>A realist goy wrote:
>>
>>>Don Ocean wrote:
>>>
>>
>
> <deleted more unproven claims>
>
> I asked you for proof of your claim that the USA had submarines
> cruising in SE Asian waters during the Vietnam War.

Check the Ops plans for those days. There were always 2 with the Carrier
groups One led the screen in wide sweeps and one laid in drag.
And on the Asian Thermal Shelf we always kept a Boomer of two.
And from time to time we ran a HUK Sub through just to be safe and
also to provide tansport for up country Seals. One was even outfitted
to carry trained Dolphins... Used to find and kill NVA frogmen.
Check Compacflt. Do your own homework! Are you sure you were in our
Navy? Proof????????????????????? By the way, There were lots of Subs
there..and a number of them were not ours. Thus the fallacy of the
Tonkin Gulf fiasco.

>
>
> WHERE IS IT???????????????????????????????????????????

Its in the Archives at the Warroom at Camp Smith, Oahu, Hawaiia.

>

Heinrich

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Dec 12, 2005, 4:30:40 PM12/12/05
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"Don Ocean" <oc...@amerion.com> schreef in bericht
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do you think he can find it on a map ?


Don Ocean

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Dec 12, 2005, 4:46:59 PM12/12/05
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Hell... He can't find his ass with both hands! ;-p

>
>

Save Our Souls from Heinrich's Bullshit

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Dec 12, 2005, 4:47:52 PM12/12/05
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Don Ocean wrote:
> Hell... He can't find his ass with both hands! ;-p

And you pretended to have attented college and finished with two
degrees with suma cum laude?

I think that in fact you have attended a nutshouse kitchen all your
life and ended in a isolated cell with suma cum bullshit!

Don Ocean

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Save Our Souls from Heinrich's Bullshit wrote:
> Don Ocean wrote:
>
>>Hell... He can't find his ass with both hands! ;-p
>
>
> And you pretended to have attented college and finished with two
> degrees with suma cum laude?

Suma Cum Laude.. High, but not that high.. I had to work my way through.
I didn't get one of those Welfare college free trips sport! And when I
finished.. I owned my degrees. With that knowledge I designed and
built a bunch of things as I still do. By the way Idiot.. I still
take classes in one thing or another almost every year. It wouldn't hurt
you to upgrade your education... Getting your bedwetting and and
getting housebroken would be a step in the right direction! It might
even cure you of stalking us Gentiles on the net! I once took a class at
Paris Island that would do you a lot of good! It was only 12 weeks
long.. ;-p

>
> I think that in fact you have attended a nutshouse kitchen all your
> life and ended in a isolated cell with suma cum bullshit!

I think you hallucinate too much and that eventually the drugs
you use to turn your feeble mind to mush will eventually do
us all the favor of silencing you.

>

A realist goy

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Dec 13, 2005, 8:14:01 AM12/13/05
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Congratulating you on your working on your brains, which however does
not help you, as all your "studies" have not been able to rid yourself
of your inbred hatred against whoever is not exactly like you.

How strange that such a seemingly well educated person can sputter out
the kind of idiocies you splatter the NG with as soon as somebody
opposes your ideas.

You might just be as mentally inbalanced and sick as your poor
uneducated megalomanic comrade-in-stupidity Heinrich the Dutch.

Don Ocean

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Dec 13, 2005, 8:48:07 PM12/13/05
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Ah Yes.. One of the ignorant of the Masses of Jews that are being
led down the garden path by the pathological criminals that lead
Israel. Murder of Gentiles is OK, and to chastise Jews for that is a
high crime! As for education... You will find that the better educated
people of this world have no trust or love for the present criminal
goals of the Jews. Instead of removing "In God We Trust" from our
money perhaps it would be wiser to remove the Jews from our shores.

I cannot speak for Heinrich, But I think you may find his education
supasses yours, as does his vocational position. Please do understand
however...This world has plenty of folks that have moved mountains
without a lot of superflous upper education. It is apparent that
you are not one of them.. And if you have a secondary education..
It has failed you1 ;-p

>

Heinrich

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Dec 14, 2005, 1:41:11 AM12/14/05
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"Don Ocean" <oc...@amerion.com> schreef in bericht
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ugh vey !!!getting upset old imbecile ? feel free to call it a life and kill
yourself, i suggest 25.12.05 to be an excellent date to do us all a big
favor.

>
> Ah Yes.. One of the ignorant of the Masses of Jews that are being
> led down the garden path by the pathological criminals that lead
> Israel. Murder of Gentiles is OK, and to chastise Jews for that is a
> high crime! As for education... You will find that the better educated
> people of this world have no trust or love for the present criminal
> goals of the Jews. Instead of removing "In God We Trust" from our
> money perhaps it would be wiser to remove the Jews from our shores.
>
> I cannot speak for Heinrich, But I think you may find his education
> supasses yours, as does his vocational position.

goy boy is fun to play with; begging for attention and ignored by the most
of us, it is really a cruel life. hahahaha

Heinrich

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Dec 14, 2005, 2:10:25 AM12/14/05
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Heinrich wrote:

The secret of love, how can it be contained
The heart and the tear are talebearers.
The heart is restrained from what it seeks,
Shut up and be passion of him besieged,
Unable to obtain its desire.
If it presumes to attain to the stars,
Its pride is brought down, laid low.
Beloved like a hart, with heart of a panther,
If you desire to slay,
My heart is in your hand as clay.
But do not summon wanderings upon it.
For in its midst your name is sheltered.
Beloved, like a scarlet cord his lips,
Burining like fire for they are his censer,
And in them is the work of his signs.
Live by them, for it waits for them --
A heart long suffering because of them.
How my fate has hardened its spirit.
A while and separation will cause it to be odious
To my friends who knew its thoughts.
If wandering has separated us,
It has increased love.
I will watch for the gazelle
To leave in the garden my pleasures,
Although my rebuker stands to accuse me.

Isaac Ibn Abraham (12th century)

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