Hingis on Big Mouth Williams
Geo
round with a 6-1 6-1 rout of France's Sarah Pitkowski,
was asked if she had seen the prediction of the tennis
sisters' outspoken father, Richard Williams, that
Venus and Serena would play each other in the
women's final.
"He always has a big mouth," Hingis said about the
elder Williams. "They always talk a lot. It happened
before. It's going to happen again. So I don't really
worry about that."
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Coleman E. Howard
John Oliveira <joli...@home.com> wrote in message
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> Geo <ge...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > The 18-year-old Swiss, after racing into the third
> > round with a 6-1 6-1 rout of France's Sarah Pitkowski,
> > was asked if she had seen the prediction of the tennis
> > sisters' outspoken father, Richard Williams, that
> > Venus and Serena would play each other in the
> > women's final.
> >
> > "He always has a big mouth," Hingis said about the
> > elder Williams. "They always talk a lot. It happened
> > before. It's going to happen again. So I don't really
> > worry about that."
>
>
> John
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I am a Williams sisters fan, and I don't appreciate that kind of talk
either. IMO, it puts EXTRA pressure on the Venus & Serena. I say let them
play, and may the BEST player win..Later with all the talk. ACTIONS speak
LOUDER THAN WORDS..
I really think all this is PR hype like in the WWF, as if they need it. When
Hingis plays anyone of the Williams sisters, it will be sell out crowd, and
the TV ratings will hit the ceiling. Women's tennis is on a roll.
Again, MAY the best player win, no MATTER who that is.
Coleman
John Oliveira
Robert B. Waltz
> I am a Williams sisters fan, and I don't appreciate that kind of talk
> either. IMO, it puts EXTRA pressure on the Venus & Serena. I say let them
> play, and may the BEST player win..Later with all the talk. ACTIONS speak
> LOUDER THAN WORDS..
>
> I really think all this is PR hype like in the WWF, as if they need it. When
> Hingis plays anyone of the Williams sisters, it will be sell out crowd, and
> the TV ratings will hit the ceiling. Women's tennis is on a roll.
>
> Again, MAY the best player win, no MATTER who that is.
I'm *not* a Williams fan, of course, but there was an interesting quote
from Venus a day or two ago: Somebody asked her something about how
she felt about all her father's stupid remarks. Speaking to the press,
she said something like, "Well, you print every word he says, don't
you?"
It almost seems as if the press is using Richard Williams the way it
used to use McEnroe: As a way to get something incendiary to work
with. Davenport and Hingis seem to have learned something recently
about the press. Williams hasn't -- and, as a non-player, doesn't
have to.
The press should take Venus's implicit advice, and stop interviewing
Richard Williams. If Venus and Serena decide to open their big mouths,
that's one thing. If Richard Williams wants to open his even bigger
mouth, why is that of any more actual significance than interviewing,
say, my father? :-)
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Robert B. Waltz
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anon...@anonymous.com
Serena Williams is much better than her father and her sister Venus,
tho.
On Wed, 1 Sep 1999 22:59:38 -0700, "Coleman E. Howard"
<ceho...@erols.com> wrote:
>
>John Oliveira <joli...@home.com> wrote in message
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>----------------------
>
>I am a Williams sisters fan, and I don't appreciate that kind of talk
>either. IMO, it puts EXTRA pressure on the Venus & Serena. I say let them
>play, and may the BEST player win..Later with all the talk. ACTIONS speak
>LOUDER THAN WORDS..
>
>I really think all this is PR hype like in the WWF, as if they need it. When
>Hingis plays anyone of the Williams sisters, it will be sell out crowd, and
>the TV ratings will hit the ceiling. Women's tennis is on a roll.
>
>Again, MAY the best player win, no MATTER who that is.
>
>Coleman
>
>
>
Glenn Fernandes
years now. A couple of years back Venus was supposed to end the year being
no.1. She has'nt till now, she has'nt even won a slam being in the final
of a slam only once too.
Glenn
On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Geo wrote:
> The 18-year-old Swiss, after racing into the third
> round with a 6-1 6-1 rout of France's Sarah Pitkowski,
> was asked if she had seen the prediction of the tennis
> sisters' outspoken father, Richard Williams, that
> Venus and Serena would play each other in the
> women's final.
>
> "He always has a big mouth," Hingis said about the
> elder Williams. "They always talk a lot. It happened
> before. It's going to happen again. So I don't really
> worry about that."
>
rugger
Question- What does Venus have to do to beat Hingis?
R. Williams- Just show up. (0-6, 0-6)
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> Serena, who is just as mouthy as Venus and the old man, said Hingis said this because of her lack of a formal education. Serena all proud of the fact she's learning a foreign language (I think Hingis can already speak 4 or 5).
Well, by tennis standards the Williamses have a lot of education -
both finished high school, right? How many top women players have any
college at all?
Coleman E. Howard
<anon...@anonymous.com> wrote in message news:37ce8789.350501@news...
> Look, the only BAD MOUTHS here are YOU, RICHARD AND VENUS WILLIAMS.
> Serena Williams is much better than her father and her sister Venus,
> tho.
>
You are a DIPSHIT. pure and simple..
Coleman
Robert B. Waltz
Well -- as a footnote, the Williams Sisters are home schooled. They have
completed high school -- but I don't trust a curriculum with Richard
Williams in charge. :-)
So the last top player to complete a *real* high school education
remains Davenport. There are, of course, players who have gone to
college -- but it appears that the highest-ranked female players to have
gone to college seriously are Raymond (#29) and Kremer (#31). (At
least, I think Raymond went to Stanford. I know Kremer did.)
On the other hand, I think Serena's mastery of a second language *is*
more significant than Hingis's (somewhat incomplete) mastery of four
(Hingis is fully fluent in the Slovak dialect of Czech and the Swiss
dialect of German, has fluent but somewhat imperfect English, and
speaks ungrammatical French). Serena started studying foreign
languages when she was much older; that makes it MUCH harder.
This assumes, of course, that Serena *has* mastered whatever it was
she was studying. :-)
Nemanja Dundjerovic
> On the other hand, I think Serena's mastery of a second language *is*
> more significant than Hingis's (somewhat incomplete) mastery of four
> (Hingis is fully fluent in the Slovak dialect of Czech and the Swiss
> dialect of German, has fluent but somewhat imperfect English, and
> speaks ungrammatical French). Serena started studying foreign
> languages when she was much older; that makes it MUCH harder.
Calling it "the Slovak dialect of Czech" is like calling Swedish the "Swedish
dialect of Norwegian". Slovak is a language in its own right. Closely related
to Czech, but not the same. Certainly not its dialect.
Nemanja
dar
> So the last top player to complete a *real* high school education
> remains Davenport. There are, of course, players who have gone to
> college -- but it appears that the highest-ranked female players to have
> gone to college seriously are Raymond (#29) and Kremer (#31). (At
> least, I think Raymond went to Stanford.
Standford?! You better hope Marsha (Gator Woman) Strong ain't reading this ...
dar
I know Kremer did.)
>
> On the other hand, I think Serena's mastery of a second language *is*
> more significant than Hingis's (somewhat incomplete) mastery of four
> (Hingis is fully fluent in the Slovak dialect of Czech and the Swiss
> dialect of German, has fluent but somewhat imperfect English, and
> speaks ungrammatical French). Serena started studying foreign
> languages when she was much older; that makes it MUCH harder.
> This assumes, of course, that Serena *has* mastered whatever it was
> she was studying. :-)
--
Will play tennis for food.
Robert B. Waltz
> Calling it "the Slovak dialect of Czech" is like calling Swedish the "Swedish
> dialect of Norwegian". Slovak is a language in its own right. Closely related
> to Czech, but not the same. Certainly not its dialect.
This was what is known as a "political compromise." :-)
At various times, Slovak has been declared to be the same as Czech,
and Czech has been forced down the Slovaks' throats. In this instance,
it wasn't entirely an Ethnic Superiority thing; the idea was to
give the Slovaks a literature, which until the formation of
Czechoslovakia, they had never had.
Now that the Czech Republic and the Slovak Republic are separate,
of course the two languages are declared distinct. It's happening
in the former Yugoslavia, too. (Serb and Croat are now sometimes
considered distinct, and let's not even start on Macedonian and
Bulgarian....) The point is, what people consider separate languages
is often more a political than a linguistic decision. And *I*
certainly don't have the knowledge to sort out the situation!
I wasn't trying to start a fight. I was trying to successfully
split hairs. Obviously it didn't work.
But it's all the Habsburgs' Fault! :-) (If you don't understand
that joke, well, it's another one you don't want me to start
upon....)
Tennis content: Hm -- wonder if this has to do with why Hingis
and Novotna broke off their doubles partnership? :-)
Nemanja Dundjerovic
"Robert B. Waltz" wrote:
> Nemanja Dundjerovic <dnem...@nortelnetworks.com> wrote:
>
> > Calling it "the Slovak dialect of Czech" is like calling Swedish the "Swedish
> > dialect of Norwegian". Slovak is a language in its own right. Closely related
> > to Czech, but not the same. Certainly not its dialect.
>
> This was what is known as a "political compromise." :-)
>
> At various times, Slovak has been declared to be the same as Czech,
> and Czech has been forced down the Slovaks' throats. In this instance,
> it wasn't entirely an Ethnic Superiority thing; the idea was to
> give the Slovaks a literature, which until the formation of
> Czechoslovakia, they had never had.
>
> Now that the Czech Republic and the Slovak Republic are separate,
> of course the two languages are declared distinct. It's happening
> in the former Yugoslavia, too. (Serb and Croat are now sometimes
> considered distinct, and let's not even start on Macedonian and
> Bulgarian....) The point is, what people consider separate languages
> is often more a political than a linguistic decision. And *I*
> certainly don't have the knowledge to sort out the situation!
>
> I wasn't trying to start a fight. I was trying to successfully
> split hairs. Obviously it didn't work.
I'm familiar with the situation in the former Yugoslavia, but the cases are
slightly different. Serbian and Croatian are truly dialects of each other, if that
makes any sense - they don't differ in grammar and syntax, but they do in
phraseology - just like American and British English. There is a more appreciable
difference between Czech and Slovak - perhaps someone with hands-on experience can
back me up here?
I agree about the political point, though. Especially in the fmr Yugoslavia - now
they even have a Bosnian language going, which is really splitting hairs.
> But it's all the Habsburgs' Fault! :-) (If you don't understand
> that joke, well, it's another one you don't want me to start
> upon....)
Oh, come ON, give me a little credit here...
> Tennis content: Hm -- wonder if this has to do with why Hingis
> and Novotna broke off their doubles partnership? :-)
I always wondered which language they communicated in. Anybody know for sure?
Nemanja
Robert B. Waltz
of clarifications....
Nemanja Dundjerovic <dnem...@nortelnetworks.com> wrote:
[ ... ]
> I'm familiar with the situation in the former Yugoslavia, but the cases are
> slightly different. Serbian and Croatian are truly dialects of each
other, if that
> makes any sense - they don't differ in grammar and syntax, but they do in
> phraseology - just like American and British English.
Don't they also use different alphabets? A nitpick, and I'm not trying to
make a political statement here.... :-)
[ ... ]
> > But it's all the Habsburgs' Fault! :-) (If you don't understand
> > that joke, well, it's another one you don't want me to start
> > upon....)
>
> Oh, come ON, give me a little credit here...
I know YOU know. That was addressed to the rest of the audience. :-)
> > Tennis content: Hm -- wonder if this has to do with why Hingis
> > and Novotna broke off their doubles partnership? :-)
>
> I always wondered which language they communicated in. Anybody know for sure?
I heard once, when they hooked up, that they talked in Czech. But I
suspect the commentator knew even less about the situation than I
do. :-)
With those two, I suspect it might have been something of a mixture....
JGJOE
daughters!!!!!!!!!
Coleman E. Howard
JGJOE <jg...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> something funny is going on with the williams family!!!!!!!dad and
> daughters!!!!!!!!!
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Sure, something is funny is going on, they love each other.
Coleman
Alan Hanley
Robert B. Waltz wrote in message ...
>> > But it's all the Habsburgs' Fault! :-) (If you don't understand
>> > that joke, well, it's another one you don't want me to start
>> > upon....)
>>
>> Oh, come ON, give me a little credit here...
>
>I know YOU know. That was addressed to the rest of the audience. :-)
They were in The Holy Blood And The Holy Grail, weren't they? (the
Habsburg's that is, not the rest of the audience).
No, I have nothing to contribute. Phphth.
All the best,
Alan.
FistaSteel
In fact they are from the ghetto.So when they go flapping their big lip's
nobody really pay's much attention to them.
Coleman E. Howard
FistaSteel <fista...@aol.com> wrote in message
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And where are you from? The "better than thou" country. In reality, nobody
pays attention to dipshits like you. As far as looks are concerned, your
family might get mistaken for animals. You deserve that shot, for talking
about how other poeple's family looks..
fistasteel. Ha, you are bunsofsoft haw, haw, haw..
Get a life creep, that goes for you dipshit family too..
Coleman
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>
>Coleman
>
>
simple word's .There is hope ,I hear they have adult learning center's for
people that weren't educated the first time around .Stay hopeful and don't give
up.
Garry Glaub
"People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones." At the adult learning
center, start first by asking the correct usage of the apostrophe. It
signifies possession and doesn't go with every "s" as you have used in
the following comments. "Word's" and "center's" should have no
apostrophe. The proper usage would be in the following
sentence..."FistaSteel's racist comments only show his ignorance. It's
too bad we have to deal with racists."
Notice, the "FistaSteel's" has an apostrophe, as the comments are
attributed to him. "Comments" has no apostrophe. Nor does "racists."
Starting to get it?
FistaSteel
African American heritage for reasons unrelated to their heritage that they are
still a racist? It's surprising that a person of your great intelligence would
not have a good understanding of racism.
Claire Abraham
>
> Don't the Williams Sisters both speak "foot in mouth" as a second language?
>
Actually, I think Venus is losing her fluency in that tongue. She's
grown up a lot in the past year, and has learned the art of making
confident statements that don't sound like idle boasts. I'm very glad
to see it, since I suspect she will be a very important force in tennis
for many years to come.
> Robert B. Waltz wrote in message ...
> >Georgiana Gates <ram...@hal-pc.org> wrote:
> >
> >> rugger wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Serena, who is just as mouthy as Venus and the old man, said Hingis
> >said this because of her lack of a formal education. Serena all proud of
> >the fact she's learning a foreign language (I think Hingis can already
> >speak 4 or 5).
> >>
> >> Well, by tennis standards the Williamses have a lot of education -
> >> both finished high school, right? How many top women players have any
> >> college at all?
> >
> >Well -- as a footnote, the Williams Sisters are home schooled. They have
> >completed high school -- but I don't trust a curriculum with Richard
> >Williams in charge. :-)
> >
> >So the last top player to complete a *real* high school education
> >remains Davenport. There are, of course, players who have gone to
> >college -- but it appears that the highest-ranked female players to have
> >gone to college seriously are Raymond (#29) and Kremer (#31). (At
> >least, I think Raymond went to Stanford. I know Kremer did.)
> >
> >On the other hand, I think Serena's mastery of a second language *is*
> >more significant than Hingis's (somewhat incomplete) mastery of four
> >(Hingis is fully fluent in the Slovak dialect of Czech and the Swiss
> >dialect of German, has fluent but somewhat imperfect English, and
> >speaks ungrammatical French). Serena started studying foreign
> >languages when she was much older; that makes it MUCH harder.
> >
> >This assumes, of course, that Serena *has* mastered whatever it was
> >she was studying. :-)
> >
> >--
> >Robert B. Waltz
> >(e-mail address hidden to avoid spam -- you know which text to remove)
>
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DJ
KC wrote:
> Don't the Williams Sisters both speak "foot in mouth" as a second language?
Then again, the "foot in mouth" language you mention is Hingis' first language. I
find it -almost- amusing that Hingis describes the Williams as "big mouths"
(although I may agree with her at times), but she's just as much a big mouth as they
are.
DJ
Coleman E. Howard
> >Get a life creep, that goes for you dipshit family too..
> >
> >Coleman
> >
> >
> Obviously you are from the ghetto too,with your language and improper use
of
> simple word's .There is hope ,I hear they have adult learning center's for
> people that weren't educated the first time around .Stay hopeful and don't
give
> up.
Ha, you got a nerve. Trying to correct my English with improper English. You
are more stupid then you sound. You used "simple word's" as in the plural
sense, which is completly wrong you dumb dipshit. The way you stated
"word's" was showing ownership, whereas, you were trying to show plural. So,
that tells me that you are haven't left the trailer, as in
"trailer-trash"..
Tell me more about the learning centers..:-)
Coleman
Coleman E. Howard
DJ <Dj...@aol.com> wrote in message news:37D8A232...@aol.com...
I agree 100%. And let us not forget that Hingis, and the Williams sisters
are still just
TEENAGERS. Dam, don't we all recall the dumb/stupid/stuff we did when we
were teenagers?
Coleman
KC
>Then again, the "foot in mouth" language you mention is Hingis' first
language. I
>find it -almost- amusing that Hingis describes the Williams as "big mouths"
>(although I may agree with her at times), but she's just as much a big
mouth as they
>are.
Yeah, but Hingis can back up her mouth most of the time. Besides, she's
cute and I like her.
Cynthia Jimenez
and I think it's great that black women are back in the tennis news. But
the one thing I dislike like and I'm not trying to be racist is that the
entire Williams' family seem a little too cocky and their dad, it appears
to me that the only reason he's involved for the sole purpose of his own
attention and quite possibly the money. He is f#$%^&g annoying. And the
press why can't they just let these girls talk the talk on the court instead
of the media of any form. Coleman E. Howard wrote in message
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