>WHY IS THAT WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS TO THE BLACK COMMUNITY, ITS THE WHITE
>MANS FAULT, FOR INSTANCE, A WHITE COP SHOT A BLACK YOUTH WHO LUNGED AT HIM WITH A CUTTING KNIFE. THE COP SHOT HIM AND UNFORTUNATELY THE YOUTH DIED. THE BLACK
>COMMUNITY WENT BERZERK SCREAMING RACISM. NOW IF THE YOUTH KILLED THE COP, IT
>WOULD HAVE BEEN JUSTIFIABLE, MEANING THE BLACK COMMUNITY WOULD HAVE ACCEPTED IT
>AS OK. BLACKS HAVE ALOT MORE PRIVELAGES THAN THEY THINK THEY DO. THEY HAVE ACCESS TO EQUAL EMPLOYMENT. IN FACT BECAUSE OF LOUSY QUOTA SYSTEMS, THEY CAN GET MOREJOBS THAN WHITES. WHERE IS THE RACISM???? HERE I AM IN COLLEGE READY TO GO OUT INTO THE REAL WORLD AND PEOPLE ARE TELLING ME I CANT GET A JOB BECAUSE I AM NOT BLACK. THEY WILL GIVE A JOB TO A BLACK WHO DOESN'T EVEN HAVE THE TRAINING I HAVE WENT THROUGH FOR 4 YEARS! DON'T TELL ME BLACKS DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO HIGHER EDUCATION BECAUSE THEY GOD DAMN DO!
!
>!! AT TEMPLE, IT IS HARDER FOR WHITE NEEDY STUDENTS TO GET AID. YOU GO TO THE FINACIAL AID OFFICE AND THEY LOOK AT YOU LIKE YOUR CRAZY!!! WHITE PEOPLE ARE NOT ALL RICH!!! SO, BLACK AND MEN AND WOMWN OF THE BLACK COMMUNITY, STOP MAKING AN EXAMPLE OF YOURSELVES AND MAYBE THERE WONT BE ALOT OF RACISM IN THE U.S.
Eric, I realize that you did not originally post to alt.tasteless!
However, your post is so well qualified to be a *winner* in our Stupid Posting
of the Month Contest, it deserves a shot anyway.
Your, yes your, power-packed score is:
* Using all caps: 20 points.
* "Creative" spelling: 20 points.
* Not using the carriage return: 30 points.
* Implied bigotry: 50 points.
* Whining: 100 points.
This gives you a total of 220 astonishing points.
You have won either:
A year's subscription to "Rap Record of the Week Club"! With a bonus:
Yoko Ono's Greatest Hits!
OR
A gourmet tour of Binghamton, New York! Drink yellow wine and eat
brown pate with our food critic, John Hollister!
Your prize will be delivered directly to your door by the one
and only Trashcan Man! But please let us know your home address
before it's too late.
All decisions are final and are the sole responsibility of the
judges.
Lenore Levine
Director of Prizes
Alt.Tasteless Quality Control, Inc.
P.S. Trashy can't wait to find out what you think about Latins.
>er...@astro.ocis.temple.edu (THE GODFATHER) writes:
>>WHY IS THAT WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS TO THE BLACK COMMUNITY, ITS THE WHITE
>>MANS FAULT, FOR INSTANCE, A WHITE COP SHOT A BLACK YOUTH WHO LUNGED AT HIM WITH A CUTTING KNIFE. THE COP SHOT HIM AND UNFORTUNATELY THE YOUTH DIED. THE BLACK
>>COMMUNITY WENT BERZERK SCREAMING RACISM. NOW IF THE YOUTH KILLED THE COP, IT
>>WOULD HAVE BEEN JUSTIFIABLE, MEANING THE BLACK COMMUNITY WOULD HAVE ACCEPTED IT
>>AS OK. BLACKS HAVE ALOT MORE PRIVELAGES THAN THEY THINK THEY DO. THEY HAVE ACCESS TO EQUAL EMPLOYMENT. IN FACT BECAUSE OF LOUSY QUOTA SYSTEMS, THEY CAN GET MOREJOBS THAN WHITES. WHERE IS THE RACISM???? HERE I AM IN COLLEGE READY TO GO OUT INTO THE REAL
>ORLD AND PEOPLE ARE TELLING ME I CANT GET A JOB BECAUSE I AM NOT BLACK. THEY WILL GIVE A JOB TO A BLACK WHO DOESN'T EVEN HAVE THE TRAINING I HAVE WENT THROUGH FOR 4 YEARS! DON'T TELL ME BLACKS DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO HIGHER EDUCATION BECAUSE THEY GOD DA
>!
>>!! AT TEMPLE, IT IS HARDER FOR WHITE NEEDY STUDENTS TO GET AID. YOU GO TO THE FINACIAL AID OFFICE AND THEY LOOK AT YOU LIKE YOUR CRAZY!!! WHITE PEOPLE ARE NOT ALL RICH!!! SO, BLACK AND MEN AND WOMWN OF THE BLACK COMMUNITY, STOP MAKING AN EXAMPLE OF YOUR
>You have won either:
>OR
Note however, you did not address the question. The fact is, many blacks to
scream racism at the drop of a hat. It's a tool to stifle discussion, much
like screaming sexism or any other kind of ism. Blacks have been pawns to
both the right and left since the carpet baggers started using them to provide
a power base. The right wing saw them as little more than animals, and the
left saw them as children who needed saving. The left has used blacks as
cannon foder to their political/power aspirations for so long, that the idea
that should be responsible for their own lives would be political suicide.
A group which defines itself as the champion of the oppressed, must insure
that it has a steady supply of oppressed to "represent". When a group of
people are told over and over that they are not reponsible for their lot in
life, and that only by electing those who will "give" them empowerment
by taking it away from others (white males), and when that group finds
that the collective guilt of the left allow them to use terms like "racist"
and racial set asides, quota systems and other race specific "remedys",
are you supprised when they believe it to be true. If you are told
enough times that the world owes you a living, it's really easy to
buy into it, even if the end result means perpetual bondage, just
to different masters.
As long as blacks see themselves as part of a "group" rather than as
individuals, as long as they allow those self proclaimed "leaders"
to define what being black is, to allow themselves to be typecast
and thus controlled, they will never be free. This, regretabbly
fits into the political agenda of both the progressive left and
the religious right. Sadly, also, those blacks who don't
accept the definition of the left, are seen as sellouts, and as
not being "black" by those who refuse to accept individual
responsibility for their lives.
Michael Barbitta
A Liberal Patriotic NonHyphenated American
>>er...@astro.ocis.temple.edu (THE GODFATHER) writes:
>
>>>WHY IS THAT WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS TO THE BLACK COMMUNITY, ITS THE WHITE
>>However, your post is so well qualified to be a *winner* in our Stupid Posting
>>of the Month Contest, it deserves a shot anyway.
>Note however, you did not address the question. The...
That's right Mikey-poo, she didn't. It was a stupid post. The moron
can't even type is small characters.
Now, learn to read the header, and keep your crap out of alt.tasteless.
>A Liberal Patriotic NonHyphenated American
You mean, moron, right?
Bob
>You mean, moron, right?
>Bob
No, if I meant you, I would have said BOB...
You are right about one thing tho, you do belong on alt.tasteless
and alt.clueless and alt.sexless and all the other alt.(put in any low life
group here) much, much more than I do..
Have a nice day Bob Moron.
Mikee poo
Geez pindick here seems to have a pretty short supply of flames since he
already used this same one on me in private e-mail after I flamed the
fuckwit for posting to the wrong newsgroup. Funny thing is he's still
posting here. Some morons never learn.
Obtasteless: Grogan of the morning was a rather annoying sort. It seemed
to be without end at the time (I was running late), and I even ended up
flushing during the ongoing process. On completetion analysis revealed
what looked like a bowl full of baby snakes all curled together and
intertwined. Reminds me of that Zappa song.
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Materials Science and Engineering Carnegie Mellon University
God created mankind, Samuel Colt made them equal.
Thank God I'm an atheist.
These opinions are mine alone, others can find their own.
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> HERE I AM IN COLLEGE READY TO GO OUT
>INTO THE REAL WORLD AND PEOPLE ARE TELLING ME I CANT GET A JOB BECAUSE I AM
>NOT BLACK. THEY WILL GIVE A JOB TO A BLACK WHO DOESN'T EVEN HAVE THE TRAINING
>I HAVE WENT THROUGH FOR 4 YEARS!
That's what you get for wasting four years of college at frat parties and
beer-fests. Had you paid attention in english class, for instance, you might
have learned that the present perfect requires a past participle to accompany
the helping verb (i.e. "have gone" not "have went.")
If what you wanted was an assurance that you'd find a job when you graduated
then you should have become an engineer. Instead you've wasted four years
gaining non-skills (at least that's what I gather since you seem to feel
that a company could just as easily replace you with someone who hasn't had
any college education at all.) Had you studied Comp. Sci. for instance,
a company couldn't simply hire a minority with no college education
in your stead. But nooooo its so much easier to major in history, or
rhetoric, or spanish or whatever the "gut" major happens to be at your
school.
Don't get me wrong. The liberal arts are a fine way to go. I majored in
philosophy, for instance. But if you're going to make a go of it in
the liberal arts then you've got to have a little bit of talent and be
willing to put in the effort and the hours to show that you were in it for
more than just four years of cheap beer and a diploma.
Seriously, all this white bitching and moaning jut pisses me off. If you
are white and can't get hired its because you're bottom of the barrel
among white applicants. With all the advantages you enjoy as a white man,
that's pretty lame. Perhaps you should have worked just a little bit harder.
Perhaps you should have studied more and partied less. But in any case stop
your belly-aching.
Big_Dave
Rest of my rant deleted.
Whooops!
Mr. GODFATHER's bizzarre post lacking, as it was, in carriage returns
required that I do some cutting and pasting to get it right on my
editor. Unfortunately I only got if half right. I've inadvertently
screwed up the attribution. Ms. Levine's name should not have
appeared at all in the above.
Sorry, and thank you Ms. Levine for pointing that out.
Big_Dave
Obtasteless: Ever have a phantom roadkill? You know the kind where
you're damn sure that you hit something, but there is no trace
whatsoever. I keep having this problem with small birds. They seem to
cluster on the streets around here in packs of three. I can usually
manage a good head of steam and get the car on top of them before they
can properly react. I find that two out of three make the needed rate of
climb and one doesn't appear. This usually make me feel that I must have
either mashed the critter or stuck it to my car. Problem is when I
check. The rear-view mirror shows nothing, and they're no little birdie
chunks anywhere on my car. What the hell is going on anyway?
Actually, there's a little more to this guy's story than he probably knows.
I know of at least two cases, one from personal experience and one from a lady
who worked in another company, of white applicants being lied to about why they
didn't get the job.
The lady found out about it when a friend complained to her that her company
turned him down for a job because they needed to use the slot to hire a
minority worker. She knew for a fact that the company hadn't hired ANYBODY
in over a year, so she asked a friend of hers who had done the interview what
was going on. The guy told her that the company isn't hiring, but that he
and a few of the other Personnel people felt that telling applicants that they
weren't hiring would make them wonder why they were being interviewed, and
telling them that they just weren't good enough would hurt their feelings and
confidence, so instead they were just telling everybody that they didn't get
the job because they weren't a minority. She asked what they told minority
applicants, and he said that they were just told they didn't get the job, with
no explanation.
This didn't suprise me, because I'd been told after an interview pretty much
the same thing, and then a good friend who was black and equally qualified came
back from meeting the SAME GUY at the same company, and told me that he
was told there was a hiring freeze, and they just wanted to keep applicants on
file if hiring resumed.
I also knew a guy who told me that he was told he lost the job because of
minority quotas, and from my knowledge of his skills and presentation I was
astonished that anyone would have even considered him for that position. Only
later, after these other two incidents, did I understand that he never was
really considered. I don't know how widespread this is, but I suspect it's not
at all rare.
So I finally understood the answer to one of the biggest mysteries in modern
America: How come so many whites claim to lose their jobs to minority hiring,
while even a cursory glance at most workplaces finds very few blacks in any
good positions?
Dr. Dan
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NASA and the NRC don't have opinions, and if they
did mine still wouldn't represent theirs.
: Big_Dave
Gee, big Dave,
Whites have the right to bitch and moan just as much as blacks do.
In Philadelphia, if you are white, and your electric bill is
unpaid for, saying you are trying to pay your bills but are having
problems with money, they will shut it off. , but if you are black, and have a $700.00 electric bill, they will let you slide.
pourmgu ;philadelphia,
: Whooops!
: Big_Dave
Well big Dave,
I'm sorry to say but all we have here at the moment is the
"half ass" vi editor. But, I guess being you're probably black,
you have the better editors.
finer ast d
>Seriously, all this white bitching and moaning jut pisses me off. If you
White bitching and moaning pisses me off. Black bitching and moaning
pisses me off. Christian bitching and moaning pisses me off. Perverts'
bitching and moaning pisses me off. _All_ bitching and moaning pisses
me off.
The fact that only the white bitchers and moaners piss you off
says a lot more about you than it says about them.
When a member of NALHM (the National Association of Lazy Hiring Managers)
says "we'd like to hire you, but we have a quota to meet and you're the
wrong race" what he really means is usually:
1) "You're not qualified to do the job, but I don't have the courage to
come out and say it." or
2) "You strike me as someone who's competent and independent enough that
you aren't going to be willing to check your brains at the door and kiss
my ass all the time, and people like you give me the creeps because one
of you might replace me." or
3) "We'd rather hire someone with less experience because he's going to
be cheaper in the short run, and in the long run we're all dead."
Seriously, equality of opportunity means more-qualified white applicants
are occasionally going to be passed over in favor of less-qualified black
applicants, rather than only in favor of less-qualified white applicants
(the latter having been an everyday occurrence since the start of the
Industrial Revolution, if not earlier).
[...blather about the idea that it's really not race but race is used
as an excuse deleted...]
Sorry to burst your bubble, but if they say to you that they had a
racial quota to fulfil, they have committed a crime in that it's
illegal to discriminate on the basis of race, color, national origin,
etc. If they say that they hired you due to race, you can nail them
to the wall AND get them to pay you damages plus all the
court/attorney fees.
From their perspective, if they say it's due to race, it's definitely
due to race, because it's much easier (and completely legal) to say to
a person that he's not qualified. It's much, much more difficult (and
completely illegal) to say that it was due to race. I have
experienced this first-hand, but in my case I was hired for the
position based on my qualifications, and the personnel people had to
DRAFT A LETTER TO THE HOME OFFICE STATING THE REASONS THEY HIRED A
WHITE MALE RATHER THAN A MINORITY AND/OR WOMAN. These are the exact
words of the personnel representative.
(It's probably because they do federal contract work, but that
shouldn't matter...)
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Since anyone with a gnat's worth of brain cells could tell that I was responding
to another post, it follows for thinking beings that I didn't deliberately
crosspost ANYWHERE, I simply hit "reply" and assumed that the person I was
responding to had used some judgement in deciding where to post.
Of course, what follows logically for thinking beings has little relevance
to a moron like you.
Now, you've had your little insult-fest, please don't continue this thread
any further. Obviously it no longer has anything to do with either newsgroup.
Dr. Dan
Oh, my God. 'Dr.?' Dan -- from where, U of PO Box 3000, where they have
new goals for recruiting students from the chromosomally enhanced segment
of the population, so long underrepresented in our institutes of higher
education?
Look, Dr. Drool --
If you had *replied* to the post, it would have gone through *email.* In
many newsreaders, the character r will accomplish this laudable goal.
In the newsreader I use, when you make the decision to post a *followup*,
the system reminds you that you are about to post and aks you
"please be sure you know what you are doing."
Doktor, I must say, if you can't even sort out the words to distinguish
from email and posting then you have no idea what you are doing. the "I
assumed it was a responsible post and so I needn't glance at the headers"
defence buys you no slack here.
Thanks for playing, but isn't it around nap time for you now in any event?
Peter
be...@minerva.cis.yale.edu
ObT: NYC this weekend, down to visit my brother. Riding the subway,
hell, *finding* the subway: "mmm, I know it's near here somewhere -- I
can *smell* it. Then, waiting to catch the train back uptown from
Washington Square. First, the lovely Urine Sauna Effect -- my theory is
that they just don't turn the heat off in the subways in NYC, since it
might be hard to get it to switch back on. Then, the past-her-prime
Asian whore who got on the train with us -- thigh-high black boots, a
teddy, and a light suitcoat over the top to avoid getting busted too
early in the eventing. Her face had not aged well, but I expect that she
will continue earning well past the productive peak of your average
hooker, servicing everyone's favorite clientele, the asian fetishist.
Hey, mebbe youy alt.politics.pc people should study that for us - reverse
discrimination in retirement age of anglo versus 'exotic' whores.
Guess what, asshole: My newsreader isn't the one you know about. So?
It's point-and-click, which I dislike, but it displays stuff better than
the character-based reader you're using. Who gives a shit what character
yours uses to reply by mail vs. replying by posting a followup?
>In the newsreader I use, when you make the decision to post a *followup*,
>the system reminds you that you are about to post and aks you
>"please be sure you know what you are doing."
Mine assumes you knew what you were doing already. So what, shit-for-brains?
>Doktor, I must say, if you can't even sort out the words to distinguish
>from email and posting then you have no idea what you are doing. the "I
>assumed it was a responsible post and so I needn't glance at the headers"
>defence buys you no slack here.
I don't need your slacks, you dipshit blowhard. I simply stated that in replying
to someone's posted opinion, by using the method of posting a followup, the
process is not the same as selecting a bunch of newsgroups to post to and then
doing so. The previous asshole didn't seem to understand that distinction
any better than you do, but it's a fact.
>Thanks for playing, but isn't it around nap time for you now in any event?
>
>Peter
>be...@minerva.cis.yale.edu
Yale, huh? What are you studying, drama or political science?
My Ph.D. is in the sciences, by the way. When you get yours, Rush will be
skiing in Hell.
Dr. Dan
> Whites have the right to bitch and moan just as much as blacks do.
> In Philadelphia, if you are white, and your electric bill is
> unpaid for, saying you are trying to pay your bills but are having
> problems with money, they will shut it off. , but if you are black, and have a $700.00 electric bill, they will let you slide.
--
How does the electric company know what color everyone is?
Tom Camfield - camf...@olympus.net
> asshole
> shit
> shit-for-brains
> dipshit
> blowhard.
> asshole
> Hell.
all about
>In article <1994Jul25.1...@news.yale.edu>, be...@minerva.cis.yale.edu
>(vineland expatriate) says:
The immortal bob christ had written:
>>>> Hey hey, Dr. Dan, there's even more to it than that! NASA may have
>>>>admited that they've hired white retards that can't use their newsreader.
>>>> These retards crosspost to inapproiate newsgroups from
>>>>alt.politics.correct.
>>>> So, are you one of them, Dr. Dan?
>>>>Bob
>>>
>>>Since anyone with a gnat's worth of brain cells could tell that I was
>>> responding
>>>to another post, it follows for thinking beings that I didn't deliberately
>>>crosspost ANYWHERE, I simply hit "reply" and assumed that the person I was
>>>responding to had used some judgement in deciding where to post.
this will obviously come as a surprise to you, but by default we assume
people locally know how to read the "newsgroups" line, and that they do
so.
>>If you had *replied* to the post, it would have gone through *email.* In
>>many newsreaders, the character r will accomplish this laudable goal.
^^^^ note: not 'the' not 'all' not 'most.' Many.
Once your class gets up to words using sometimes y (the sneaky letter)
you may be able to purchase a clue on the meaning of that word.
>Guess what, asshole: My newsreader isn't the one you know about. So?
<snort>. The one I know about.
>It's point-and-click, which I dislike, but it displays stuff better than
>the character-based reader you're using. Who gives a shit what character
>yours uses to reply by mail vs. replying by posting a followup?
The point, you nitwit, is that terms like reply and followup have
meanings in an electronic forum other than the ones you've assigned to
them to cover the space between ears.
>Mine assumes you knew what you were doing already. So what, shit-for-brains?
Goodness me, so it does. Is yours configured so you can download
porn and display it in a separate window faster than you can say
"premature ejaculation?" 'course, you probably can't admit that on
alt.politics.correct.
>I don't need your slacks, you dipshit blowhard. I simply stated that in
My slacks? I am *not* offering garments, buddy.
> replying
>to someone's posted opinion, by using the method of posting a followup, the
This is the first time you've used "followup" in this exchange bub. so
acting as if you'd already stated it is nice, but no cigar.
>process is not the same as selecting a bunch of newsgroups to post to and then
>doing so. The previous asshole didn't seem to understand that distinction
>any better than you do, but it's a fact.
would "I'm too dumb to read the "newsgroups" line and it isn't fair to
expect me to" be a fair translation of your position, Doktor? You made
your post, you are expected to pay attention to where your blather propogates.
>Yale, huh? What are you studying, drama or political science?
Ah, Yale flames. I love 'em.
>
>My Ph.D. is in the sciences, by the way.
Ah, yes, the grad program in Janitorial Science at U of PO Box 3000. The
finest of its kind in the country, I'm sure. And I understand that
people of the chromosomally enhanced persuasion do extremely well in it.
Sorry I missed the episode where you got in there, Corky. The last
episode I saw, you were bawling about not having been allowed to graduate
high school, and then ABC stopped carrying your show. Apparently, you've
grown considerably since then, though -- why just today, you've learned
to pay attention to where your mewling is posted!
Just one question, Corkles -- given the remarkable flow of virtually
one-theme obscenity in your followup, have you considered taking the
medicine first, *then* posting? Or were you mortified that I chose to
mention Asian fetishes in a post where I should have been devoting my
entire post to you? Or perhaps I inadvertently *did* devote my post
entirely to you?
Night night, Doktor Corky.
Peter
be...@minerva.cis.yale.edu
ObPCandTasteless: This guy gets paid US tax money to lose instruments at
Goddard? He better hope he's wrong on his second guess at my field of
study, cuz Yalie political science (sic) weasels of all political stripes
have been doing well nationally lately.
By the identification of so-called "disadvantaged neighborhoods" and
the linkage of free utilities to recipients of various welfare
programs. See my previous post in the same subject thread for details.
Robin
Kinda makes a mockery of the word equality.
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Vinnie Jordan, 170 lbs. of rompin' stompin' sonofabitch. vin...@sco.COM
"A dirty mind is a terrible thing to waste."
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