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Geoff Miller

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Jul 17, 2003, 4:45:44 PM7/17/03
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Beverly <bev...@lmri.ucsb.edu> writes:

[ The Hunt For Brown October ]

> The pool was closed however due to, as the desk clerk told me,
> a kid taking a crap in the pool. They had to close the pool
> down to empty and disinfect it.

That sounds a little extreme. That's why swimming pools have
chlorine in them, after all. All they really had to do was
grab the net, scoop up the offending grogan and toss it over
the closest fence[*], and get back to business. "Under way
as before," as the ships' log entries go.

Hell, a third of the volume of any pubic swimming pool is
probably kid-pee, anyway. People pretend otherwise because
they can't see it -- one of those "out of sight, out of mind"
things -- but if pressed, I'm confident most folks would admit
to knowing damn well that kids routinely pee in pools. I
personally discharged enough urine into swimming pools during
the course of my childhood to float an Essex-class aircraft
carrier. I really don't see that crap is any worse just
because its visible.

Even diarrhea shouldn't be any big deal. If some kid were to
swim along trailing a brown cloud like an agitated cephalopod
trying to get away from Jacques Cousteau, granted, it might be
a little disconcerting to anyone swimming nearby. But it would
disperse and dissipate in no time. Why, in less than an hour
one could probably swim right through the same area of the
pool with his mouth open and not even be able to taste it.


> Now, wouldn't it seem that the people who own the kydz who
> do such a vile thing should pay for the establishment's loss
> of revenue and for the cost of draining/cleaning, etc.?

Why? Not that I'm defending shitting in swimming pools, mind
you, but it's not the kid's parents' fault that the operators
of the pool took such ridiculously extreme measures.


> I guess I'm just glad they do this, though, at all. Makes
> me feel a little better if I accidentally swallow some of
> the pool water knowing that at least if they know about a
> kyd-poop incident they take all the necessary (required?)
> precautions to protect the rest of us from it. (ick.)

Oh, foo. If you've spent any time at all in swimming pools,
perticularly *public* swimming pools, you've probably already
swallowed a gallon of dilute children's urine by this point in
your life without even realizing it. At the very least, all
that water spends its time sluicing over strangers' armpits
and genitals and anuses as they swim around. Surely you
realized this. Did it do you any harm? Of course not. Just
have an Altoid and get on with your existence. I recommend
the new cinnamon variety.

One summer I was in a public pool in Tulsa. I dove down to the
bottom of the deep end, just playing around, intending to touch
the bottom and come back up. In the process, I put my hand into
a three-inch layer of emulsified suntan lotion laying on the
bottom like some kind of vile sludge. Now _that_ was gross.


[*] I'm assuming it'd be rather awkward to try and
maneuver one of those nets-on-a-pole into the
restroom building.

Geoff

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reflex

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Jul 17, 2003, 11:20:40 PM7/17/03
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In article <bf71to$a...@u1.netgate.net>,
geo...@u1.netgate.net (Geoff Miller) wrote:

> Even diarrhea shouldn't be any big deal. If some kid were to
> swim along trailing a brown cloud like an agitated cephalopod
> trying to get away from Jacques Cousteau, granted, it might be
> a little disconcerting to anyone swimming nearby. But it would
> disperse and dissipate in no time. Why, in less than an hour
> one could probably swim right through the same area of the
> pool with his mouth open and not even be able to taste it.

and while we're envisioning with our minds' eyes such poetic images: if a
gaggle of tapeworms extrudes from the kid's anus as he/she swims away,
well, so much more like a jellyfish is he/she.

tapeworms thrusting through the anus like a thick bundle of coaxial cable.

yes, yes, I know tapeworms typically are solitary within the intestine.
perhaps hookworms, then, protruding in bulk and en masse from the rectum.
give 'em a little trim; cut them off nice neat and even, like a crew cut.

lovely lovely hookworms, spraying from the anus like one of them cheap
fiber optic lamps you get at novelty shops.

pics of hookworm-infested feet at: <http://www.biosci.ohio-state.edu/~parasite/clm.html>

santa

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Jul 18, 2003, 7:58:17 AM7/18/03
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"reflex" <ref...@zippydoodah.com> wrote in message
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: In article <bf71to$a...@u1.netgate.net>,

Jeffy boy your education is sadly lacking. Pee is essentially sterile as it
exits the body. SHit on the otherhand is loaded with bad stuff like E-coli,
Hep-A and other nifty bugs. Chlorine in doses that rednecks can paddle in
doesn't necessarily kill some of the really tough bugs. Sounds like you've
been out drinking the water in the stage 1 tank at the local sewage farm.

claus

Geoff Miller

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Jul 18, 2003, 1:40:13 PM7/18/03
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santa <sa...@southpole.com> writes:

> Jeffy boy your education is sadly lacking.

What's up with this silly-assed crap of deliberately misspelling
my name? I'm seeing a spate of that lately from a host of retards.
Is that, like, supposed to get a rise out of me or something?
Christ, maybe you'll become a little more sophisticated when you
advance to junior high school.


> Pee is essentially sterile as it exits the body.

No kidding. And if _your_ education were anywhere near as compre-
hensive as you seem to believe it is, you'd also know that pee,
while sterile when it comes out, doesn't *stay* sterile; it supports
the growth of bacteria something fierce.


> SHit on the otherhand is loaded with bad stuff like E-coli, Hep-A
> and other nifty bugs.

You're truly a Rhodes scholar, santa old spud. But before you get
too full of yourself, you should bear in mind that when it comes
to exposure to nasty bugs and virii, a single grogan in a swimming
pool is hardly the equivalent of people going for a dip in the vat
of a sewage treatment plant. You see, the ratio of grogan surface
area to the volume of water renders the concentration of Bad Stuff
negligible. Especially in a swimming pool the size of the typical
public or community one.

And for another, there's the matter of exposure time: a turd in a
swimming pool probably wouldn't be there very long before being
noticed and fished out with a dip net (or by hand, if the pool
staff were ATers).

In addition, shit from a kid is less likely to be infected with
hepatitis than shit from an adult, due to a kid's lower likeli-
hood of exposure. Unless the kid routinely earns pocket money
by peddling his ass downtown, of course, but that'd obviously be
a special case.


> Chlorine in doses that rednecks can paddle in doesn't necessarily
> kill some of the really tough bugs.

Oh, foo. We live a goddam sea of bacteria. Big deal.


> Sounds like you've been out drinking the water in the stage 1 tank
> at the local sewage farm.

That was Jack Daniel's. That stuff tastes like it was sluiced over
dirty dog anuses, but it was all I had in the likker cabinet at the
time.

Timbo

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Jul 18, 2003, 2:11:49 PM7/18/03
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Geoff Miller wrote:
> santa <sa...@southpole.com> writes:
>
>
>>Jeffy boy your education is sadly lacking.
>
>
> What's up with this silly-assed crap of deliberately misspelling
> my name? I'm seeing a spate of that lately from a host of retards.
> Is that, like, supposed to get a rise out of me or something?

Dunno, but as far as "santa" is concerned you should
just use your twit filter, aka killfile.

He ain´t worth it. Not in a quality newsgroup like a.t.

Timbo, discouraging crap as per the FAQ.


ObNastySmell: Made some bread three days ago and dumped
the bowl in the sink full of water with a plate on top.
In summer. In Spain. Where we hit 42 degrees yesterday
(don't know what that is in old money).

Today I ran out of plates so I decided to do a bit of
washing up. Lifted up the plate on top of the bowl and
it hit me. Three day old yeast/flour ferment. Phew.


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thing with shit-coated teeth and tongue. - Nurzy


santa

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Jul 18, 2003, 5:37:26 PM7/18/03
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Jeffy, seems I got a rise out of you?
If you want to be so fucking pretentious its ok by me. I'll just call you
Mr. Asshole. Are you so insecure that misspelling your name causes you to
go into spasms? There is help available if you can afford it. Do I say
anything when you are politically incorrect and call me retard? I don't
think we know each other well enough to be on such a familiar basis. Mr.
Retard at least or if you truly want to use the rules of etiquette it should
probably be "developmentally challenged".

You know about Rhodes Scholars? SHit you might even be a bit educated, not
smart but educated.
I'm not so sure about piss growing bacteria. It certainly breaks down but
whether its from bacterial action I'll just have to cede to your apparently
in depth knowledge.
Aren't you sort of contradicting yourself when you say a single turn isn't a
problem there's lots of other stuff in the water to feed the bacteria such
as guys like you wacking off in the deep end and some honey leaking traces
of blood or some dude with a shit smeared asshole.
Your right we live in a sea of bacteria and some of them can make us very
dead very quickly.

Did you ever see the film clip of the various stages of "recycling a body
goes through after the plug's been pulled. Apparently a real pro can tell
you how long the dear departed has been gone just by the color. Quite a
talent. The other good marker is flies and maggots apparently.
I prefer makers mark myself a little upscale.

claus

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Robt. Miller

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Jul 18, 2003, 5:41:25 PM7/18/03
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In article <bf9bdt$j...@u1.netgate.net>, Geoff Miller wrote:
>
>
> santa <sa...@southpole.com> writes:
>
>> Jeffy boy your education is sadly lacking.
>
> What's up with this silly-assed crap of deliberately misspelling
> my name? I'm seeing a spate of that lately from a host of retards.

IT'S GEOFFREY!!

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Julian Macassey

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Jul 18, 2003, 5:54:01 PM7/18/03
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On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:37:26 -0400, santa <sa...@southpole.com> wrote:
> Jeffy, seems I got a rise out of you?

What is it with top posting tards with bogus addresses?


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santa

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Geof,
There are you happy now? why not go play with your UNIX? You must be god
its crashproof and virus proof why I bet you walk above water. I thought a
god was tolerant of failures in mere mortals. Do you really think its
crashproof? Obviously you've never heard of Murphy and his law. I believe
there's a theorem somewhere that says at least at the present time there is
no way to prove a piece of code is correct and will act as intended under
all circumstances.

claus

santa

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Jul 19, 2003, 9:09:39 AM7/19/03
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christ another neatness freak can't you read any way but down. Are your the
format police?

claus
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artisan

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Jul 19, 2003, 10:29:42 AM7/19/03
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geo...@u1.netgate.net (Geoff Miller) wrote in message news:<bf71to$a...@u1.netgate.net>...

> Even diarrhea shouldn't be any big deal. If some kid were to
> swim along trailing a brown cloud like an agitated cephalopod
> trying to get away from Jacques Cousteau, granted, it might be
> a little disconcerting to anyone swimming nearby. But it would
> disperse and dissipate in no time. Why, in less than an hour
> one could probably swim right through the same area of the
> pool with his mouth open and not even be able to taste it.


I really have to THANK GOD that I will not be swimming in any public
pool that Geoff Miller, who thinks it's PERFECTLY OK to let loose a
cloud of diarrhea in a public swimming pool, will have been in
also......*goes to visit the porcelain goddess*...

Rox
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Robt. Miller

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Jul 19, 2003, 11:17:21 AM7/19/03
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You're confused, I'm not Geoff. Your invective is wasted.


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Frank McConnell

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Jul 19, 2003, 3:22:21 PM7/19/03
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wo-r...@th-ew-or-ld.c-m wrote:
> Yes, Santa, we *are* the format police. Think of us as Sister
> Euphemia, your eighth grade teacher at Our Lady of Perpetual
> Responsibility's Parochial School, and you'll do much better.
>
> ObT: Getting to rap Santa's knuckles with a ruler until *I* think he
> has enough.

And not just any ruler. I suggest an early 1980s Moore Business Forms
ruler, 16 inches (but marked out to 405 mm for the benefit of wog
forms) of stainless steel. I expect there's probably one in the
Clue Desk, if anyone knows where that's got to.

ObT: this waste of hundreds if not thousands of dollars brought to you
by the letters u, u, c, and p

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Dan Evans

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"Robt. Miller" <robtmil....@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> In article <cpbSa.734$F9....@newscontent-01.sprint.ca>, santa wrote:

> > Geof,
> > There are you happy now? why not go play with your UNIX? You must be
god
> > its crashproof and virus proof why I bet you walk above water. I
thought a
> > god was tolerant of failures in mere mortals. Do you really think its
> > crashproof? Obviously you've never heard of Murphy and his law. I
believe
> > there's a theorem somewhere that says at least at the present time there
is
> > no way to prove a piece of code is correct and will act as intended
under
> > all circumstances.

And it's not virus proof either.

Dan


Robt. Miller

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Jul 19, 2003, 6:31:13 PM7/19/03
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Sure it is. Don't confuse virii and trojans.


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Dan Evans

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"Robt. Miller" <robtmil....@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> In article <3f19bc99$0$7484$45be...@newscene.com>, Dan Evans wrote:
> >
> > "Robt. Miller" <robtmil....@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:slrnbhio76.u0v....@robtmil.com...
> >> In article <cpbSa.734$F9....@newscontent-01.sprint.ca>, santa wrote:
> >
> >> > Geof,
> >> > There are you happy now? why not go play with your UNIX? You must be
> > god
> >> > its crashproof and virus proof why I bet you walk above water. I
> > thought a
> >> > god was tolerant of failures in mere mortals. Do you really think
its
> >> > crashproof? Obviously you've never heard of Murphy and his law. I
> > believe
> >> > there's a theorem somewhere that says at least at the present time
there
> > is
> >> > no way to prove a piece of code is correct and will act as intended
> > under
> >> > all circumstances.
> >
> > And it's not virus proof either.
>
> Sure it is. Don't confuse virii and trojans.

Believing something to be virus proof is a sure way to get the first/next
one to come along.

Dan


Matt Olson

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Jul 20, 2003, 12:49:30 AM7/20/03
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Robt. Miller (robtmil....@comcast.net) wrote:
> In article <3f19bc99$0$7484$45be...@newscene.com>, Dan Evans wrote:

<Unices>

>> And it's not virus proof either.
>
> Sure it is. Don't confuse virii and trojans.

http://www.mit.edu:8001/people/eichin/virus/main.html

Hell, for that matter:

http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1

It's software, it's written by people: it sucks. Not as much as most
alternatives, maybe, but it still sucks. There's enough complacent Unix
admins unknowingly running sendmail on their 500p3r 53cur3 r3d h47 b0x3n
already without you jumping on the "It's my favourite toy, therefore I
don't need to know how to secure it -- er, I mean, it doesn't need
securing" bandwagon.

ObImpendingT: My neighbourhood has acquired a new motorist: what appears
to be a young woman on an old Honda CB400. She has what looks
suspiciously like a snowmobile helmet, little in the way of confidence
or skill (listening to her try to shift sets my teeth on edge), and the
"it's too hot out for jeans... or a jacket... or boots..." gene. I look
forward to seeing the inevitable consequences.

Pity about the bike, though.

Cheers,
Matt
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Robt. Miller

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Jul 20, 2003, 9:35:06 AM7/20/03
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In article <3f19e07a$0$12086$45be...@newscene.com>, Dan Evans wrote:
>
>> Sure it is. Don't confuse virii and trojans.
>
> Believing something to be virus proof is a sure way to get the first/next
> one to come along.

I don't quite see the logic of that. I have 5 Windows virii/day
knocking on my ports and my belief either way can't affect my
vulnerability.


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Robt. Miller

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Jul 20, 2003, 9:43:26 AM7/20/03
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In article <slrnbhk7qr.4d...@ohaton.cs.ualberta.ca>, Matt Olson wrote:
> Robt. Miller (robtmil....@comcast.net) wrote:
>> In article <3f19bc99$0$7484$45be...@newscene.com>, Dan Evans wrote:
>
><Unices>
>
>>> And it's not virus proof either.
>>
>> Sure it is. Don't confuse virii and trojans.
>
> http://www.mit.edu:8001/people/eichin/virus/main.html

That was a 1988 exploit. Have anything for this millenium?

> Hell, for that matter:
>
> http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1

Only has Windows in that list.

> It's software, it's written by people: it sucks. Not as much as most
> alternatives, maybe, but it still sucks. There's enough complacent Unix
> admins unknowingly running sendmail on their 500p3r 53cur3 r3d h47 b0x3n
> already without you jumping on the "It's my favourite toy, therefore I
> don't need to know how to secure it -- er, I mean, it doesn't need
> securing" bandwagon.

The sendmail bug was fixed 6 months ago, mine was patched a day before
the announcement. There was no virus related to that vulnerability. The
rest of your last sentence is ridiculous.


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Nemesis

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Jul 20, 2003, 11:02:36 AM7/20/03
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Robt. Miller wrote:
> In article <3f19e07a$0$12086$45be...@newscene.com>, Dan Evans wrote:
>
>>> Sure it is. Don't confuse virii and trojans.
>>
>>Believing something to be virus proof is a sure way to get the first/next
>>one to come along.
>
>
> I don't quite see the logic of that. I have 5 Windows virii/day
> knocking on my ports and my belief either way can't affect my
> vulnerability.
>

Here's the definitive poop, old chap: *No* operating system
is literally "virus-proof". None. Zero. Including Linux.

Viruses are inherently OS-specific. A virus written for
Windoze will likely be useless in a Linux environment.

Since Micro$oft is the dominating juggernaut, with Windoze
in its various flavors being the vast majority of OS's in
use with business and the general public, most virus
creators make the little varmints *for* Windows. OTH, there
have been quite a few viruses made for Linux. And they work
as intended. But they are fewer and farther between than the
Windows versions...

Compare OS's to race. And viruses, in this context, would be
race-specific. What evil scientist in the germ-warfare
department would bother with very many Inuit-infecting
creepy crawlies, which would only spread to a few percent of
the populace at large? You'd make something that would
target the Whites, say, or the Hispanics... you'd infect the
larger percentage that way.

Same with computer viruses. Linux just isn't widespread
enough to be an attractive target. But, should the day come
where the majority OS is Linux, then you'll see just how
"virus-proof" it actually is. You'll be wheezing and gasping
your way the the backups, AV suites, rescue disks, etc.

Thus endeth the gospel.

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Timbo

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Jul 20, 2003, 10:15:49 AM7/20/03
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Nemesis wrote:

> Here's the definitive poop, old chap: *No* operating system is literally
> "virus-proof". None. Zero. Including Linux.
>

True, but Windows makes it far easier with scripting
everywhere, everything "tightly integrated" and everybody
running with administrator privilages.

> OTH, there have been quite a few viruses made for Linux. And
> they work as intended. But they are fewer and farther between than the
> Windows versions...
>

"Fewer and farther between"...

> Same with computer viruses. Linux just isn't widespread enough to be an
> attractive target. But, should the day come where the majority OS is
> Linux, then you'll see just how "virus-proof" it actually is. You'll be
> wheezing and gasping your way the the backups, AV suites, rescue disks,
> etc.
>

A common misconception. People have been hacking Unix
for *far* longer than they've been hacking Windows.
Gaining root accesss, taking over the machine and/or
deleting system files isn't suddenly going to get any
easier just because Linux gets popular. Apache hacks
tend to be denial of service not "take over the system".

Robt. Miller

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Jul 20, 2003, 10:20:00 AM7/20/03
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In article <bfe7eg$dpq8e$1...@ID-186287.news.uni-berlin.de>, Nemesis wrote:
> Robt. Miller wrote:
>> In article <3f19e07a$0$12086$45be...@newscene.com>, Dan Evans wrote:
>>
>>>> Sure it is. Don't confuse virii and trojans.
>>>
>>>Believing something to be virus proof is a sure way to get the first/next
>>>one to come along.
>>
>>
>> I don't quite see the logic of that. I have 5 Windows virii/day
>> knocking on my ports and my belief either way can't affect my
>> vulnerability.
>>
>
> Here's the definitive poop, old chap: *No* operating system
> is literally "virus-proof". None. Zero. Including Linux.

Someday somebody may be able to write an exploit that a non root user
can replicate but it's gonna take more ability than any .vbs script
proliferators are capable of. Your assumption that Windows virii are
more popular because Windows is more popular is just that. Windows
security flaws are so manifold and gaping that 13yr. olds can change the
world. Someday soon there'll be a virus for Windows that's not going to
be as comfortable and treatable as the thousands currently available.
When the Linux virus comes along that can affect my user files, I'll log
in as root and fix the problem, until then Linux is virus proof.


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Dan Evans

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"Timbo" <bu...@the.stake> wrote in message
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> Nemesis wrote:
>
> > Here's the definitive poop, old chap: *No* operating system is literally
> > "virus-proof". None. Zero. Including Linux.
> >
>
> True, but Windows makes it far easier with scripting
> everywhere, everything "tightly integrated" and everybody
> running with administrator privilages.

And scripting doesn't exist on *nix? Oh yes it does, in a *major* way

> > Same with computer viruses. Linux just isn't widespread enough to be an
> > attractive target. But, should the day come where the majority OS is
> > Linux, then you'll see just how "virus-proof" it actually is. You'll be
> > wheezing and gasping your way the the backups, AV suites, rescue disks,
> > etc.
> >
>
> A common misconception. People have been hacking Unix
> for *far* longer than they've been hacking Windows.

Right, *hacking*, and given the availability of the souce code for LInux,
that's to be expected. A virus, OTOH, is different.


Dan Evans

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"Robt. Miller" <robtmil....@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Someday somebody may be able to write an exploit that a non root user
> can replicate but it's gonna take more ability than any .vbs script
> proliferators are capable of.

Right, they'll be a virus and not a worm.

> When the Linux virus comes along that can affect my user files, I'll log
> in as root and fix the problem, until then Linux is virus proof.

No, it's not virus proof, it's just that there are no virus' for it. Quite
different. It's like saying that my house is alien proof as no alien has yet
got in. I am, of course, basing this assumption on the fact that there
aren't actually any aliens round here.

Dan


Timbo

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Dan Evans wrote:
>>
>>True, but Windows makes it far easier with scripting
>>everywhere, everything "tightly integrated" and everybody
>>running with administrator privilages.
>
> And scripting doesn't exist on *nix? Oh yes it does, in a *major* way
>

I was going to say "so show me an email attachment which
can read my e-mail address list" and "how convenient, you
skipped the important part about administrator privilages".

Than I thought. Fuck it. This guy's a weeb and I'm damned
if *I'm* going to be the one to bring the Windows<->Linux
thing in here.

>>A common misconception. People have been hacking Unix
>>for *far* longer than they've been hacking Windows.
>
> Right, *hacking*, and given the availability of the souce code for LInux,
> that's to be expected. A virus, OTOH, is different.
>

Ditto. Unix had viruses way in the 70's so you're either
ignorant or trolling. I don't care, there are newsgroups
where you can argue this all day long but this ain't one
of them.

Robt. Miller

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In article <3f1aaecf$0$34609$45be...@newscene.com>, Dan Evans wrote:
>
> "Timbo" <bu...@the.stake> wrote in message
> news:puxSa.414885$iM4.6...@telenews.teleline.es...
>> Nemesis wrote:
>>
>> > Here's the definitive poop, old chap: *No* operating system is literally
>> > "virus-proof". None. Zero. Including Linux.
>> >
>>
>> True, but Windows makes it far easier with scripting
>> everywhere, everything "tightly integrated" and everybody
>> running with administrator privilages.
>
> And scripting doesn't exist on *nix? Oh yes it does, in a *major* way

Not as an automated email attachment.


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Robt. Miller

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In article <3f1aaf63$0$9887$45be...@newscene.com>, Dan Evans wrote:
>
> "Robt. Miller" <robtmil....@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:slrnbhl98e.u0v....@robtmil.com...
>
>> Someday somebody may be able to write an exploit that a non root user
>> can replicate but it's gonna take more ability than any .vbs script
>> proliferators are capable of.
>
> Right, they'll be a virus and not a worm.

When pigs fly, pigs will fly.


>> When the Linux virus comes along that can affect my user files, I'll log
>> in as root and fix the problem, until then Linux is virus proof.
>
> No, it's not virus proof, it's just that there are no virus' for it. Quite
> different. It's like saying that my house is alien proof as no alien has yet
> got in. I am, of course, basing this assumption on the fact that there
> aren't actually any aliens round here.

Have you looked in your attic lately? You're right, my statement wasn't
completely logical. I'll remember your warning and I'll keep in mind
that just because nobody's jumped over the Eiffel Tower doesn't mean it
can't happen.


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silvasurfa

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"Robt. Miller" <robtmil....@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:slrnbhlda4.u0v....@robtmil.com...

> In article <3f1aaecf$0$34609$45be...@newscene.com>, Dan Evans wrote:
> >
> > "Timbo" <bu...@the.stake> wrote in message
> > news:puxSa.414885$iM4.6...@telenews.teleline.es...
> >> Nemesis wrote:
> >>
> >> > Here's the definitive poop, old chap: *No* operating system is
literally
> >> > "virus-proof". None. Zero. Including Linux.
> >> >
> >>
> >> True, but Windows makes it far easier with scripting
> >> everywhere, everything "tightly integrated" and everybody
> >> running with administrator privilages.
> >
> > And scripting doesn't exist on *nix? Oh yes it does, in a *major* way
>
> Not as an automated email attachment.
>

You seem to be forgetting your ObT's here. Post an ObT with your technodweeb
crappulence, or get your reamed out old bungholes over to a group where this
is on topic.

ObT: Is it possible to conjoin twins (or even genetically unrelated
individuals) after they have been born? I'd really like to use a machete to
smack open the brain pans of Timbo and Miller, superglue the ragged edges of
their scalp to each other then tie them down until it heals.


Nemesis

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Timbo wrote:

> Dan Evans wrote:

<snip>

> Fuck it. This guy's a weeb and I'm damned
> if *I'm* going to be the one to bring the Windows<->Linux
> thing in here.

Glub-DAMMIT! I had 'im on the hook, fucker! Whyd'ja hafta
cut the line?

(grumbling, Nemesis packs up his rod and reel and moves on)

-----------------------------------------------------------

Robt. Miller

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In article <3JySa.5795$OM3....@news-server.bigpond.net.au>, silvasurfa wrote:
>
> You seem to be forgetting your ObT's here. Post an ObT with your technodweeb
> crappulence, or get your reamed out old bungholes over to a group where this
> is on topic.

Sorry, I'm done. I never did figure out what Obt is.

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Dan Evans

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"Robt. Miller" <robtmil....@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Sorry, I'm done. I never did figure out what Obt is.

Obligatory Tastelessness

Dan


Robt. Miller

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I would'a thought that was default with every post.


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silvasurfa

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"Robt. Miller" <robtmil....@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:slrnbhlg3g.u0v....@robtmil.com...

> In article <3f1abdb3$0$12878$45be...@newscene.com>, Dan Evans wrote:
> > "Robt. Miller" <robtmil....@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:slrnbhlels.u0v....@robtmil.com...
> >
> >> Sorry, I'm done. I never did figure out what Obt is.
> >
> > Obligatory Tastelessness
>
> I would'a thought that was default with every post.


What... like this post you just did that was a crap one liner with nothing
tasteless except the fact we know you are a mouth breathing bed wetting goat
fucking tard?

Do us a favour... grab a knife, pull out your dick and start hacking at it
around the base. That should give you something to post to AT about.


Semolina Pilchard

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Jul 20, 2003, 12:42:58 PM7/20/03
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On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 10:37:08 -0500, "Robt. Miller"
<robtmil....@comcast.net> wrote:
> Have you looked in your attic lately? You're right, my statement wasn't
>completely logical. I'll remember your warning and I'll keep in mind
>that just because nobody's jumped over the Eiffel Tower doesn't mean it
>can't happen.

(ahem)

Some of us did that decades ago.

Now, do us all a little favour, will you?
Take your deadly dull, poorly informed debate which we could find in
any one of a hundred tedious dweeb-groups and shove it up your arse,
if you can find it.

The only person in a.t interested in what you have to say is you.
Fuck off. Your delurk has been several posts too long already.
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Robt. Miller

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In article <XlzSa.5810$OM3....@news-server.bigpond.net.au>, silvasurfa wrote:
>
> "Robt. Miller" <robtmil....@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:slrnbhlg3g.u0v....@robtmil.com...
>> In article <3f1abdb3$0$12878$45be...@newscene.com>, Dan Evans wrote:
>> > "Robt. Miller" <robtmil....@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> > news:slrnbhlels.u0v....@robtmil.com...
>> >
>> >> Sorry, I'm done. I never did figure out what Obt is.
>> >
>> > Obligatory Tastelessness
>>
>> I would'a thought that was default with every post.
>
>
> What... like this post you just did that was a crap one liner with nothing
> tasteless except the fact we know you are a mouth breathing bed wetting goat
> fucking tard?

I don't mouth breathe any more.


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Stevet Thompson

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Jul 20, 2003, 5:46:00 PM7/20/03
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Nemesis <lordnemesi...@netzero.net> wrote in message news:<bfe7eg$dpq8e$1...@ID-186287.news.uni-berlin.de>...
[snip]

> Same with computer viruses. Linux just isn't widespread
> enough to be an attractive target. But, should the day come
> where the majority OS is Linux, then you'll see just how
> "virus-proof" it actually is. You'll be wheezing and gasping
> your way the the backups, AV suites, rescue disks, etc.

None of that shit actually helps much to protect against the most
insidious vulnerabilities that put most U*IX systems at risk. Just
learn to keep multiple backup copies of your data and expect to
reinstall and reconfigure your application software when you
eventually get hit.

All OSes suck. Linux just happens to suck less.

> Thus endeth the gospel.

Amen.


Regards,

Steve

Geoff Miller

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Jul 21, 2003, 3:06:07 PM7/21/03
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santa <sa...@southpole.com> writes:

> Jeffy, seems I got a rise out of you?

Acknowledging your stupidity means you got a rise out of me?
You have an interesting definition of "getting a rise" out
of someone.


> If you want to be so fucking pretentious its ok by me.

Why thank you. I've been awaiting your explicit permission,
you know. With bated breath, even.


> I'll just call you Mr. Asshole.

*yawn*

How imaginative. I think I'll call you Drippidong. (Sounds
vaguely Malayan, doesn't it? I've always loved their cuisine.)


> Are you so insecure that misspelling your name causes you to
> go into spasms?

Pointing out that you misspelled my name means I'm insecure?
Or that I went into spasms? You might want to check with
your doctor about upping the dosage of your meds. If you're
realy nice, maybe you can even talk him into giving you a
'scrip for suppositories.


> Do I say anything when you are politically incorrect and call
> me retard?

Calling someone a retard is politically incorrect? You must
hang out with a bunch of old ladies.


> I don't think we know each other well enough to be on such a
> familiar basis.

We will once you've run your tongue up and down the length of
my hairy asscrack a few times, especially if you go the extra
mile and tease the back of my scrote on alternating downstrokes.
I find that dropping trou and presenting my starfish in such an
inviting manner is a real ice-breaker, socially speaking.


> Mr. Retard at least or if you truly want to use the rules of
> etiquette it should probably be "developmentally challenged".

The one that's starting to piss me off is "special needs." It
makes it sound as though the person should be sent to Burger
King to "have it his way."


> I'm not so sure about piss growing bacteria. It certainly
> breaks down but whether its from bacterial action I'll just
> have to cede to your apparently in depth knowledge.

"In depth?" Only up to about mid-thigh, I'm afraid.


> Aren't you sort of contradicting yourself when you say a single
> turn [sic] isn't a problem there's lots of other stuff in the
> water to feed the bacteria such as guys like you wacking off in
> the deep end and some honey leaking traces of blood or some dude
> with a shit smeared asshole.

Not at all. You see, if there's already that other stuff in the
water, and people aren't dropping dead like flies from it, then
a few more bacteria won't be any big deal. Especially when you
consider that an intact grogan doesn't have a lot of surface area.

If the offending gruntfudge is removed from the pool promptly,
before it starts to deterioriate, the bacteria on its surface
won't have a lot of opportunity to go for an aquatic excursion
in the water. And when you consider the volume of the typical
public swimming pool, the bacterial concentration would be
negligible.

A an underwater spray of diarrhea would be another matter entirely,
of course, as I pointed out earlier.


> Did you ever see the film clip of the various stages of "recycling
> a body goes through after the plug's been pulled. Apparently a
> real pro can tell you how long the dear departed has been gone
> just by the color. Quite a talent.

No, I've never seen that, unfortunately. I'll watch for it.

It seems to me that an enterprising mortuary-supplies company
could produce a handy-dandy, pocket-sized, embossed chart
showing the color progression plotted against estimated duration
of death, and give it away to customers as a promotion.


> The other good marker is flies and maggots apparently. I prefer
> makers mark myself a little upscale.

That's not bad, but I recommend Knob Creek -- both for the product
itself _and_ for the name.

Geoff

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Semolina Pilchard

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On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:37:26 -0400, "santa" <sa...@southpole.com>
wrote:

> Do I say anything when you are politically incorrect and call me retard?

No, you just slobber, hoot and shit yourself. It may be politically
incorrect but it's accurate.
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santa

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"Geoff Miller" <geo...@u1.netgate.net> wrote in message
news:bfhdiv$b...@u1.netgate.net...
:
:
:

G,
only mid-thigh You say. You're just a short fellow then? Would this be
complaining or bragging?
What the hell is "bated" breath? Yah yah I know your shit covered finger
slipped on the keyboard right? You seem to be anally focussed so maybe Mr.
Asshole is really close to the mark?

claus

A.Lizard

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Jul 22, 2003, 6:22:43 AM7/22/03
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On 19 Jul 2003 19:24:11 -0500, "Dan Evans"
<mailer.dae...@danevans.com> wrote:

>
>"Robt. Miller" <robtmil....@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:slrnbhjhlf.u0v....@robtmil.com...
>> In article <3f19bc99$0$7484$45be...@newscene.com>, Dan Evans wrote:
>> >
>> > "Robt. Miller" <robtmil....@comcast.net> wrote in message

[snip]


>> > And it's not virus proof either.
>>
>> Sure it is. Don't confuse virii and trojans.
>
>Believing something to be virus proof is a sure way to get the first/next
>one to come along.
>
>Dan
>

While the rest of us use F-Prot AV for Linux. (this is a dual
boot system) http://www.f-prot.com

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On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 04:49:30 +0000 (UTC), Matt Olson
<spamb...@see.sig> said:

>ObImpendingT: My neighbourhood has acquired a new motorist: what appears
>to be a young woman on an old Honda CB400. She has what looks
>suspiciously like a snowmobile helmet, little in the way of confidence
>or skill (listening to her try to shift sets my teeth on edge), and the
>"it's too hot out for jeans... or a jacket... or boots..." gene.

Flag her down and offer her a good hard fuck. Mention that when she's
all scuffed up in a wheel chair and that soft skin and those good
looks have been grated off on the unforgiving tarmac, she won't be
able to pay enough for even a mediocre dicking from one of the
neighbourhood mutts.

If making small talk isn't your forte, just shove her off when she's
going slow. The relatively minor cuts and bruises she'll get are
nothing compared to what would have happened had she been going fast.
Point this out to her and she may even thank you for this instructive
lesson. If she's knocked out, strip and fuck her - remember what
Herry said, "unconcious is consensual" - afterall, she didn't say "no"
did she? If the merciless hounds of the law should try to interfere,
explain that you are a medical professional applying new styles of CPR
(cuntal-penoid resusitation) and that they'll be included in any suit
for malpractice involving death or injury to the vict^H^H^H^Hpatient.

Remember that the path of true love is never easy and you may have to
resort to threats, frenzied violence and sturdy restraints[1].

>I look forward to seeing the inevitable consequences.

So do we - never leave home without a digital camera.

Good luck, Matt. Don't forget the camera. A hockey mask and sidearm
may also come in handy.

Dave
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santa

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"Semolina Pilchard" <us...@myactiveware.com> wrote in message
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: On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:37:26 -0400, "santa" <sa...@southpole.com>

IS this a love note or something?I don't know whether or not we should date
I haven't been properly introduced; yet!

claus

Dan Hillman

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santa <sa...@southpole.com> wrote:

> [Quotes all of Geoff's article. Every fucking line.]

Trim quoted text, you sad, sad dungmonkey.

It's bad enough that you have absolutely nothing of merit to say, but
you don't even express that well. Your comments are about as
intelligible as Helen Keller singing "Come on Eileen" with eight inches
of mangristle pounding both ends of her alimentary canal.

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shitwipe

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Begin On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 12:19:16 -0500 "Robt. Miller"
<robtmil....@comcast.net> wrote in Message id:
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> I don't mouth breathe any more.

Got better, did you?

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