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Kenji Doihara

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Jan 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/11/98
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In article <01bd1ea9$c520a840$bce5869f@default> "deborah cotter" <deb...@tinet.ie> writes:

>Women from all over Ireland and as far away as the United States and
>Australia will be coming together to celebrate the Fesitval of Brigit
>in the West of Ireland.

>The aim of the weekend is to "midwife the courageous, outrageous spirit
>of Brigit in us all."

>Throughout the weekend women will excavate, celebrate, meditate and
>liberate the myths, traditions, symbols, music and poetry of Brigit
>through workshops in drumming, dance, art, yoga, healing and more.
>We will be sharing our own stories and song in ritual, experiencing
>the power of women's creativity.

Mr Kenji want come to festival. Mr Kenji like very very
much to liberate myths and to and to heal and to yoga and to dance
nakid with women of Irish and United State and Australia around
very very big giant bonfire. Mr Kenji to bring marshmallows to
cook over fire after and to then to use for buttplugs when to catch
on to fire so to liberate myth of marsh mallow spirit.

Your friend,
Mr Kenji Doihara

>DATE: Friday, January 30 - Sunday, February 1

>VENUE: Esker Retreat House, Athenry, Co-Galway

>COST: £90 (including meals and accommodation) Scholarships available for
>women on lower incomes. Apply immediately.

>For registration forms and more information, contact:

>Institute for Feminism and Religion
>c/o Barbara Callan
>Cloon, Cleggan
>Co. Galway
>Tel/Fax: 095 44771
>catherin...@cimple.co.uk

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Kazuo Fujii

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Jan 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/11/98
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In article <kdoiharaE...@netcom.com>, kdoi...@netcom.com (Kenji Doihara) wrote:
>
> Mr Kenji want come to festival. Mr Kenji like very very
>much to liberate myths and to and to heal and to yoga and to dance
>nakid with women of Irish and United State and Australia around
>very very big giant bonfire. Mr Kenji to bring marshmallows to
>cook over fire after and to then to use for buttplugs when to catch
>on to fire so to liberate myth of marsh mallow spirit.
>
>Your friend,
>Mr Kenji Doihara
>
You gook pig. How dare you poste to this N.G. and you can't even write/speak
English. I want to beat you and your ugly wife with a club and fuck your
children with my Pit Bull. Fuck you dopy Nips who try to be univesal, go back
to your retarded Jap intranet. I hate you yellow ass holes who can't operate
in the real world. Suck my cheezy cock while I beat your family with the
gravestones on your ugly ancestors.
Kazuo

Kazuo Fujii

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Jan 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/11/98
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In article <kdoiharaE...@netcom.com>, kdoi...@netcom.com (Kenji Doihara) wrote:
>
> Mr Kenji want come to festival. Mr Kenji like very very
>much to liberate myths and to and to heal and to yoga and to dance
>nakid with women of Irish and United State and Australia around
>very very big giant bonfire. Mr Kenji to bring marshmallows to
>cook over fire after and to then to use for buttplugs when to catch
>on to fire so to liberate myth of marsh mallow spirit.
>
>Your friend,
>Mr Kenji Doihara
>
I don't thik you are are a Nip pig, just an impostor. Shove a large diakon
up your hungry hole.
Kazuo

Stesal

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Jan 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/11/98
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Hank Blake wrote:

>
> On Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:25:22 GMT, ka...@urban.or.jp (Kazuo Fujii) wrote:
>
> >In article <kdoiharaE...@netcom.com>, kdoi...@netcom.com (Kenji Doihara) wrote:
> >>
> >> <snip>

> >>
I hate you yellow ass holes who can't operate
> >in the real world.
>
{*Stoopid-assed* flame of Kenji snipped]
> You dumb fucking benjo-sucker, you haven't the least fucking clue as to
> how totally you stepped into the shit here. And the absolute totally
> fucking funny thing is that you don't have a fucking clue.
>
> Fucking jewban totally stupid fuckwit muthafucka. Slantycunt.
> Dipfuckingshit. You're outta your league. If you had a clue, you'da
> *never*, *ever* lashed out at Kenji. Fucking bakka bastard. Go commit
> hari fucking kari. Your life is a loss.
>
> --
> Hank Blake
>
I think I'll just sit back and watch the fireworks. What's the best way
to serve smoked Nip? With bar-b-que sauce or hollandaise?

BTW Mr. Slanted-Eyed Rice Eating Motherfucker, where do you get the idea
that Kenji is a pig fucking gook like you? The accent sounds more
African or Caribbean to me.

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Citizen Ted

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Jan 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/14/98
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hbl...@tyrannosaur.ixnay.com (Hank Blake) wrote:

>I like where gainip (or is that nipjin?) here gainsays that Mr Kenji is
>a Nip pig. I mean...gainip's half Nip pig himself.

Exactly.
A clue for Sr. Fujii:

You, my friend, are a fucking Nip, through and through.
It matters not what lineage you claim; in the eyes of any reasonable
Earthling, you are a slope-headed, slant-eyed coolie fuck whose only
worth is discernable as a target at a firing range.
Your claim that Vinnie is an inbred redneck is particularly
hypocritical when one considers the monolithic culture that is Nippon.

(You're born, you're short, you have black hair, you die.)

You can make all the intellectual validations of having a white slut
Momma you want, but you're still nothing more than an unwanted,
smelly, seaweed-chewing, coolie bastard. That "Merkin blood in your
veins is of no consequence when it coarses through your spindly yellow
bag of skin. Even a 50% infusion of quality genes was unable to to
grow your dick beyond the critical 4" mark, and now you take your
frustrations out on a cum-spurtin', beer-swilling ubermensch like
Vinnie.

I am truly sorry the US nuked your feeble empire. I would have
preferred a Nanking-style rape of your inferior people and culture. I
could have grown up with my father telling stories of raping, then
gutting, dozens of valueless Jap girls before opening up on the
streets of Tokyo with a Tommy gun.
Instead, my father cooled his heels in the Phillipines, waiting for an
invasion which never occurred because the glorious light of day was so
rudely introduced to Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

So, you nauseating, weak-armed little Nip bastard, next time you stick
your flat fucking face into a room, be sure to bring a bigger fucking
"stick" and, if at all possible, a more servicable brain.

- TR
- Fuck the content of your character, too.

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Notorious P.I.G.

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Jan 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/14/98
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In article <69bi6b$l...@usenet42.supernews.com> ka...@urban.or.jp (Kazuo Fujii) writes:
>In article <kdoiharaE...@netcom.com>, kdoi...@netcom.com (Kenji Doihara) wrote:
>>Your friend,
>>Mr Kenji Doihara
>You gook pig. How dare you poste to this N.G. and you can't even write/speak
>English. I want to beat you and your ugly wife with a club and fuck your
>children with my Pit Bull. Fuck you dopy Nips who try to be univesal, go back
>to your retarded Jap intranet. I hate you yellow ass holes who can't operate
>in the real world. Suck my cheezy cock while I beat your family with the
>gravestones on your ugly ancestors.

Otay! This has gone quite far enough. I've been trolled, as has the
readership of alt.tasteless.

Come on out of the closet, Kazzy. I've been getting a lot of beefing,
from people whose opinion I value, about how my literally punchingg the living
shit out of you in front of the assembled masses isn't as entertaining to
the .tasteless masses as it is to me.

You hafta remember, though, you Nip snotpuddle, that I have an inestimable
amount of time to laugh at yer attempts to try to push yourself up
to my level. You can't do it, and you're the last person in this forum to
come to that realization.

You ain't no Jap. You've been playing me for the fool I am, and when the shit
hits the proverbial fan, you caught me with my pants down. Take your victory
and savor it, because it tends to tarnish when it isn't exercised regularly.

You got me once, but it ain't gonna happen often.

But, keep on plugging. I like to make people look foolish in their tries to
try to show me up. The stupider they are, the less time it takes to
bust 'em up, but it's damned satisfying to watch their dicks dangle in the
fuckin' wind.


VJ

Kazuo Fujii

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Jan 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/14/98
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In article <pigfaceE...@netcom.com>, pig...@netcom.com (Notorious P.I.G.) wrote:
>In article <69bi6b$l...@usenet42.supernews.com> ka...@urban.or.jp (Kazuo Fujii)
> writes:
>>In article <kdoiharaE...@netcom.com>, kdoi...@netcom.com (Kenji
> Doihara) wrote:
>>>Your friend,

>>to your retarded Jap intranet. I hate you yellow ass holes who can't operate
>>in the real world. Suck my cheezy cock while I beat your family with the
>>gravestones on your ugly ancestors.
>
>Otay! This has gone quite far enough. I've been trolled, as has the
>readership of alt.tasteless.
>You ain't no Jap. You've been playing me for the fool I am, and when the shit
>hits the proverbial fan, you caught me with my pants down. Take your victory
>and savor it, because it tends to tarnish when it isn't exercised regularly.
>
>You got me once, but it ain't gonna happen often.
>VJ

Hmmmmmmm
Makes me wish I was something other than what I am. Hehehehehe
I can win with a grin and lose with a grin, and I always shake hands (or bow)
when it's over.
Kazuo

Notorious P.I.G.

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Jan 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/14/98
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In article <69hcht$bn4$1...@barad-dur.nas.com> ham...@omit.nas.com (Citizen Ted) writes:
>Even a 50% infusion of quality genes was unable to to
>grow your dick beyond the critical 4" mark, and now you take your
>frustrations out on a cum-spurtin', beer-swilling ubermensch like
>Vinnie.

That would be vodka, Ted, and good vodka at that.

In case you ain't seen it, the man and I have made a truce. Not just because
it's non-productive, but because we ain't that far apart in philosophies.

You wake up on a Monday, lookin' for a fight. The first nail attracts the
hammer that is my existence, but that don't make me right.

I apologised. Let it go. Please....

VJ

> So, you nauseating, weak-armed little Nip bastard, next time you stick
>your flat fucking face into a room, be sure to bring a bigger fucking
>"stick" and, if at all possible, a more servicable brain.

Only repeated because it was so fuckin' good.

But, Please, people. Let it fuckin' die. Sometimes you get into an argument
that you cain't quite get out of, and it gets out of hand.

For the Japanese folks who frequent this froup, I hate everybody equally,
and bear no ill will toward any individual racial group.

Vinnie

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Notorious P.I.G.

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Jan 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/15/98
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In article <69jlat$4...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net> hbl...@tyrannosaur.ixnay.com (Hank Blake) writes:
>So what's good vodka to you, Vinnie?

Stolichnaya. With a squeeze, if ya please.

ObT: Try a diet of bologna sammitches and brandy for a week, and
tell me how your anal expulsions smell. I ain't sniffed nuthin'
quite like it.

Don't get me wrong here, you silly fucks. I don't spend a lotta
time sniffin' the contents of public toilets, but certain dietary
habits make for foul-smellin' shit. Drop into (heh) any public
restroom at yer neighborhood gas station and report the results.

I think I might be dying inside, but so are the rest of you.
Live (or die) with it.

VJ


John Chang

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Jan 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/16/98
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Michael Hoyle wrote:
>
> On Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:25:22 GMT, ka...@urban.or.jp (Kazuo Fujii)
> wrote:
>
> >>In article <kdoiharaE...@netcom.com>, kdoi...@netcom.com (Kenji Doihara) wrote:
> snip

> >>You gook pig. How dare you poste to this N.G. and you can't even write/speak
> >>English. I want to beat you and your ugly wife with a club and fuck your
> >>children with my Pit Bull. Fuck you dopy Nips who try to be univesal, go back
> >>to your retarded Jap intranet. I hate you yellow ass holes who can't operate
> >>in the real world. Suck my cheezy cock while I beat your family with the
> >>gravestones on your ugly ancestors.
> >>Kazuo
> WOW that's angry. I have never read such venom. Talk about pushed to
> far. What's with the Pit Bull and children, now that's to harsh.
>
> Yours coweringly, Michael

Hmm, not to mention quite offensive to individuals like me. :^(

--
Regards,

John Chang
____

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"Multimedia by Scala. Jump to IT!" Scala Computer Television
Web site: http://www.scala.com

Citizen Ted

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Jan 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/19/98
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pig...@netcom.com (Notorious P.I.G.) wrote:

>In article <69hcht$bn4$1...@barad-dur.nas.com> ham...@omit.nas.com (Citizen Ted) writes:
>>Even a 50% infusion of quality genes was unable to to
>>grow your dick beyond the critical 4" mark, and now you take your
>>frustrations out on a cum-spurtin', beer-swilling ubermensch like
>>Vinnie.

>That would be vodka, Ted, and good vodka at that.

All the better. I prefer Absolut, despite the moronic ad campaign. But
I've been known to down vodka gimlets created from the most humble of
spirits. It all depends upon upon how much gasoline myT-bird requires
that week...

>In case you ain't seen it, the man and I have made a truce. Not just because
>it's non-productive, but because we ain't that far apart in philosophies.

>You wake up on a Monday, lookin' for a fight. The first nail attracts the
>hammer that is my existence, but that don't make me right.

>I apologised. Let it go. Please....

Unfortunately, I have a rather spotty newsfeed. I usually don't get
the latest news until long after I've opened my big fat mouth.
It should be made clear that I really don't care about Fujii's recent
flame spat with the P.I.G.
I just saw a lovely opportunity to vent some literary anti-Jap
sentiments. Skewering the usual non-white-American types is too damn
easy; anyone can castigate blacks for being ... well ... black, and
Mexicans for being just too damn Mexican. But rare is the opportunity
to unload some truly baseless attacks upon the Japanese.
For anyone who gives a damn, it should be noted that I do not harbor
any deep-seated racial hatred (usually). I just kinda enjoy the racist
rhetoric.
It's fun.

ObmildlyT: I really enjoy my new Henckel's kitchen knife set. I enjoy
it so much, in fact, that I've turned salad time into "cathartic
attack upon defenseless vegetables" time. As you can well imagine, the
karmic wheel took an expected turn and I recently lopped off a good
portion of my left index fingernail into the chopped lettuce. After
the expected discomfort and bloodletting, I quickly rifled through the
lettuce to find the damn fingernail. No dice. I tossed the whole mess
into a bowl and slathered on some Caesar's dressing. Fuck it.
I never did discern that hard, sharp, biological bite of bloody nail,
much to my chagrin. The salad went down without any choking or
fanfare.
I was ripped.
Next time, I'm gonna go ahead and lop off the whole damn finger. It's
only my left hand, after all. And only homo's pay attention to their
left hand, right?

- TR
- white, right-handed and not a homo.


Alraune

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Jan 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/20/98
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In <69uqlp$e4i$1...@barad-dur.nas.com> ham...@omit.nas.com (Citizen Ted)
writes:

> Next time, I'm gonna go ahead and lop off the whole damn finger.
>It's only my left hand, after all. And only homo's pay attention to
>their left hand, right?
>

Hey, that's my monkeyspank hand! Like Captain USA used to say on
Saturday afternoons, "Say hello to my old pal Lefty!"


Alraune

Herry

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Jan 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/21/98
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Citizen Ted wrote:

>
> pig...@netcom.com (Notorious P.I.G.) wrote:
>
> >That would be vodka, Ted, and good vodka at that.
>
> All the better. I prefer Absolut, despite the moronic ad campaign. But
> I've been known to down vodka gimlets created from the most humble of
> spirits. It all depends upon upon how much gasoline myT-bird requires
> that week...

Being descended from the people that got so desperate for a drink that
they decided to ferment potato peels, I must make this recommendation:

Pertsovka.

Made by the same folk who brought you Stolli. This is vodka brewed
from chili peppers. Rocket fuel. Wunnerful stuff. We drink it at the
folks all the time. It doesn't taste quite as horrific as it must
sound (it's quite nice actually, straight shots from a bottle kept
in the freezer), but it kicks like a mule. Half a dozen shots and
you feel like running out into the woods and wrestling a bear. Real
kamikaze alcohol, like Mezcal.

ObT: Job huntin'. Saturdays paper actually advertised for spammers.
"Internet Marketing" they called it. Commission and FREE bulk email
software. Now I'm a peacenik and have philosophical objections to
things like, say, the death penalty (tho' I do like to chuckle about
it). But for people like these, death by torture and drawing and
quartering, no problemo. Melt the lead, get the funnel.

Herry

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Nathan J Nagel

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Jan 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/21/98
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Excerpts from netnews.alt.tasteless: 21-Jan-98 Re: Women celebrate
Festiva.. by He...@netspace.net.au
>
> Being descended from the people that got so desperate for a drink that
> they decided to ferment potato peels, I must make this recommendation:
>
> Pertsovka.
>
> Made by the same folk who brought you Stolli. This is vodka brewed
> from chili peppers. Rocket fuel. Wunnerful stuff. We drink it at the
> folks all the time. It doesn't taste quite as horrific as it must
> sound (it's quite nice actually, straight shots from a bottle kept
> in the freezer), but it kicks like a mule. Half a dozen shots and
> you feel like running out into the woods and wrestling a bear. Real
> kamikaze alcohol, like Mezcal.
>

Have to try that someday, if I can find it. My current fave has been
Luksosova, one of the few potato vodkas you can get around here. Lots
smoother than Stoli, IMHO.

nate

ObT: none. I'm to pissed right now to think of anything good.

ObWhine: my car died today on the way home from the garage. I think
it's a bad crank trigger, but I didn't bother to investigate. Just had
it shipped right back there. Next car I buy is going to have a damn
carburetor, and a distributor with real honest to god points, and it's
going to be made in AMURRICA, gawddammnit! Fucking bavarians...

Mustng001

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Jan 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/21/98
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Somewhere along the line somebody wrote:

<<<SNIP>>>

>> >>English. I want to beat you and your ugly wife with a club and fuck your
>> >>children with my Pit Bull. Fuck you dopy Nips who try to be

<<<SNIP>>>

Assistance please... try as I might, I just cannot visualize how one would fuck
children with a Pit Bull. Would one need to insert one's penis in said animal,
using it as a sort of extender? Is there a special Pit Bull lubricant one
would use?

Shit. Now I wish I'd have been following this thread before it fucking
disppeared...

PAARNG "Who's Brigit?" Lee

ObBM: Haven't had a solid dump in days. Bummer. But, hey, the sound effects
are great. Then again, it makes farting at work dangerous. On the other hand,
there's a fine accompanying stench with which to annoint the chosen men's room.
But then there are those troublesom little fucking boxes on the wall
dispensing that revolting air freshener... damn, my ringmeat itches...

ObSo'jerShit: For some reason, the Guard attracts many of those whose feces
emits particularly malevolent aromas. When shitting a shit
(da-de-shit-shit-shit) that is resultant of having consumed the standard US
field ration, this effect can be especially horrendous (e.g. the very often
astounding "MRE Shit" - I've had very good luck with the Tuna & Noodles -
available at better surplus stores and flea markets). Paint peeling;
all-in-all magnificent to witness, they can be the source of boundless joy.
Birthing one of those motherfuckers and listening to one of the medics
be-bopping into the latrine unawares is a first rate achievement, and a helluva
lot of fun to boot. And no goddam air freshener boxes.


Mike Kennedy

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Jan 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/22/98
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Citizen Ted wrote:

> Nathan J Nagel <gear...@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>
> >ObWhine: my car died today on the way home from the garage. I think
> >it's a bad crank trigger, but I didn't bother to investigate. Just had
> >it shipped right back there. Next car I buy is going to have a damn
> >carburetor, and a distributor with real honest to god points, and it's
> >going to be made in AMURRICA, gawddammnit! Fucking bavarians...
>

> Ah, the cry of the stranded car owner.

[ anti Little Nipper Vehicle rant snipped ]


> I finally gave up all that computerized, controlled, sensored BULLSHIT
> and bought a beautiful 1979 Ford Thunderbird. Fucker has points, a
> 2bbl carb, automatic tranny, electric everything and a REAL SPARE
> TIRE.
> I can adjust my idle by ear. I can change the oil and do a tune-up in
> one afternoon with a few simple tools. Fucker runs like a dream. And,
> she's beautiful to boot.
> The world auto industry can take their plastic bubble cars and shove
> 'em up their collective assholes. Give me a V8, some chrome, a
> straight body, some fuzzy dice and a cutie with a hand-mirror full of
> crank by my side. Then move your droll, wimpy 4-cylinder pieces of
> shit outta my goddamn way.

Goddam, Ted. Why don'tcha get a *real* car. My occasional driver is a wonderful
survivor 1967 Plymouth GTX convertible. 146,000 miles on the clock. About 92%
original (including the top.) Honkin' 440 c.i. engine with a huge Carter 4bbl.
Gets around 10mpg, if I'm lucky. It's long, low, mean, bright red, and whomps the
hell out of racerboy types in their mouse-motored Z28s and 5-liter 'Stangs.

They just don't make 'em like that any more, though Glub knows that Dodge is
trying with the Viper RT/10. Gee Em and FoMoCo just can't deal with *real*
performance and gas hoggery.

My current *daily* driver is a '95 Eagle Vision TSi. Not as quick as the GTX, but
it's comfy. Soon to be replaced (late April or so) by a '98 Sebring Limited
convertible. Yes, I like convertibles. (Blew the tranny in the Eagle back in
December. Although it was replaced under warranty, I'm *not* going to take any
chances.)

ObT: Looking forward to the noxious FartGas(tm) I'll produce after the gutbomb
burritos I consumed for dinner finally decompose. My co-workers will *not* be
amused.

--

If you make like Lorena and do some judicious trimming in the address header, you
*might* just be able to e-mail to me.

My employer is not responsible, etc., ect., ect.

Neither am I.

Rev. Mike Kennedy, ULC

kennedym at eye ex dot netcom dot com

Citizen Ted

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Jan 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/23/98
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Nathan J Nagel <gear...@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:

>ObWhine: my car died today on the way home from the garage. I think
>it's a bad crank trigger, but I didn't bother to investigate. Just had
>it shipped right back there. Next car I buy is going to have a damn
>carburetor, and a distributor with real honest to god points, and it's
>going to be made in AMURRICA, gawddammnit! Fucking bavarians...

Ah, the cry of the stranded car owner.

I suffered for ten years with the obnoxious mechanical nightmare known
as Japanese engineering. The fucking engine was sideways. Changing the
oil required removal of the engine, transmission, and side mirrors.
Oh, you want to adjust the timing? Dream on, loser boy. It'll never
happen.


I finally gave up all that computerized, controlled, sensored BULLSHIT
and bought a beautiful 1979 Ford Thunderbird. Fucker has points, a
2bbl carb, automatic tranny, electric everything and a REAL SPARE
TIRE.
I can adjust my idle by ear. I can change the oil and do a tune-up in
one afternoon with a few simple tools. Fucker runs like a dream. And,
she's beautiful to boot.
The world auto industry can take their plastic bubble cars and shove
'em up their collective assholes. Give me a V8, some chrome, a
straight body, some fuzzy dice and a cutie with a hand-mirror full of
crank by my side. Then move your droll, wimpy 4-cylinder pieces of
shit outta my goddamn way.

- TR
- "Say, baby, slide across that leather and gimme a little kiss,

huh? That's it, baby. Yeah. You can fix your hair in the vanity.

It's got a light in it -- just for you, baby. Yeah, sugar. Lemme
see some of that skin.....woooo!!!! Baby, you are F-I-N-E!
Now put your lips on this, baby. Oooooh. Oooooh, yeah.
You know I love it when you do me like that.....aaaaaahhh."
- Me, cruising down I-5 at 110mph.


Mike Kennedy

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Jan 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/23/98
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The Enemy Within wrote:

> I got a '86 Ford Sierra. 2 litre pinto, Weber 32dfth carb, 267000 on the
> clock and can beat the fuck out of any VW of Jap crap. Before that I had
> a 2 litre Cortina. That died an honourable death on the bypass at 125
> MPH when a con rod shattered. It had 322000 miles on the clock.

Not familiar with the Sierra, must be Youropean. But it sounds like you
might even be able to give 1.8 or 2L Bimmers trouble.


> Lucky if the average jap kiddy car makes 80000 before it goes terminally
> belly up.

Nah. Lotsa Japanese cars hit 100kmiles plus. Older ones (pre 1980) tend to
fall to rust first, though. Must be their Itralian heritage.

Most cars, if they're maintained reasonably well (and can avoid terminal
collisions) can easily live to 150k-200kmiles. Problem is, we tend to
succumb to the siren calls of automotive advertising.

Mike Kennedy

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The Enemy Within wrote:

> I think that the argument that Jap rides are a reliability
> > liability doesn't quite hold water.
>
> In the UK they do. Problem is they build them for the warm,dry jap
> climate, and when you bring one to the jolly old wet, damp UK they start
> rusting before the White Cliffs of Dover have loomed into view. The
> spares have to be shipped over here by boat so as well as the cost of
> the spare, you have to chip in for the diesel fuel to Yokahama for the
> boat.

That's because whatever serves for your Department of Transportation hasn't
thought of forcing the little Nippers to properly corrosion-proof the cars
they send ya. These days, in the Yew Ess, Oriental (Jap and Korean) cars
that are *imported* (not actually built in the Yew Ess) stand up rather well
to seasonal road salt deposits.

And British cars, aside being cursed with Lucas electrics, have tended to be
less than corrosion-proof in many Yew Ess climates. I can't recall seeing
an Austin, MG, or BMC/BL product (unrestored, that is) that hasn't shown
some evidence of skin cancer. Lots of older Cats are like that, too.

(Caveat: I live in the middle of the Great Plains, where road salt is
profligately spread whenever there is a threat of snow, and many people have
yet to figure out what a car wash is. In other climates, such shit is
relatively or completely unknown. That's why a car that spends its life in
California, west Texas, or in the desert Southwest will be almost completely
free of rust during its lifetime.)


> And transverse mounted engines!!! What wanker thought of
> transverse mounted engines?? He wants an entire exhaust system shoving
> up him!

Uh, I hate to tell you, but the transverse-mounted engine was championed in
Old Blighty. IIRC, the Morris (Austin) Mini started the trend.

ObSemiT: Although the burritos did their usual fine job of noxious
decomposition, I received nary a nasty look from my co-worker today.
Depressing.

ronaski

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The Enemy Within wrote:
>
> Mike Kennedy wrote:
> >
> > Citizen Ted wrote:
> >[snip car bits]

>
> I got a '86 Ford Sierra. 2 litre pinto, Weber 32dfth carb, 267000 on the
> clock and can beat the fuck out of any VW of Jap crap. Before that I had
> a 2 litre Cortina. That died an honourable death on the bypass at 125
> MPH when a con rod shattered. It had 322000 miles on the clock.
>
> Lucky if the average jap kiddy car makes 80000 before it goes terminally
> belly up.

I had an 81 Datsun B210 wagon that I squeezed 326000 out of the same
engine. I got rear ended on the highway, but still drove the wreck
until the U joints fell apart in the drive shaft. I gave the thing to
the junk man rather than spend the $70 to fix it. The engine was
running perfectly when I junked it.

While I really wouldn't mind owning a late 60's 440 Hemi Charger right
about now, I think that the argument that Jap rides are a reliability


liability doesn't quite hold water.

OBt:
While wiping, I happened upon a most unfortunate incident.... the old
"Pinky-bang-yourself-because-the-tp-was-unreliable". After a full
finger scrub, I ran to the bed waving the once soiled digit in front of
my SR's face while describing the occurrence to her. She struggled to
escape and yelled, "Filthy fucking fecal finger!"

All I could do was stand back in awe and say, "Awesome alliteration!"
--
ronaski
"take out the trash!"

Sh...@burpleson.afb.gov

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The Enemy Within <unava...@this.point.in.time> wrote:
: Lucky if the average jap kiddy car makes 80000 before it goes terminally
: belly up.

Eh, my 87 Accord has 124800 and counting. Just had the oil changed last
weekend [1]. My brother had an 84 Accord with 175000 before a geezer in a
Lincoln creamed him in the middle of an intersection [2].

Compare, however, these experiences to my first car, an 80 Datsun 280ZX.
I swear, it had a trigger that tripped at *precisely* 75000 miles, which
resulted in it being in the shop every other weekend. The air
conditioning never worked from the day I bought it (used), and the plastic
sockets for the seatbelts had sun-rotted, making it impossible to buckle
in. Luckily, I traded it in during fall, so the sales-ape never checked
the A/C, and only drove around the lot without seatbelts. Knocked $2500
off my purchase (a regrettable Pontiac 6000), and the 280Z was in the
"handyman's special" corner of the lot within a week.


Sharv

[1] What, you think I change my own oil? Fuck that, I'm a white
suburbanite.

[2] Giving futherance to my theory that if you need a little
compartmentalized box to tell you if you took your pills that day, you
have no business behind the wheel of 3000 pounds of steel.

--
"Twentieth Century American history is the story of bad white men,
soldiers of fortune, shakedown artists, extortionists, legbreakers. The
lowest level implementors of public policy. Men who are often toadies of
right wing regimes. Men who are racists. Men who are homophobes. These
are my guys. These are the guys that I embrace. These are the guys that I
empathise with. These are the guys that I love. "
-- James Ellroy


The Enemy Within

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Mike Kennedy wrote:
>
> Citizen Ted wrote:
>[snip car bits]

I got a '86 Ford Sierra. 2 litre pinto, Weber 32dfth carb, 267000 on the
clock and can beat the fuck out of any VW of Jap crap. Before that I had
a 2 litre Cortina. That died an honourable death on the bypass at 125
MPH when a con rod shattered. It had 322000 miles on the clock.

Lucky if the average jap kiddy car makes 80000 before it goes terminally
belly up.

Conradin

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ronaski <ron...@earthlink.trash.net> wrote:

>
>The Enemy Within wrote:
>> Lucky if the average jap kiddy car makes 80000 before it goes terminally
>> belly up.
>
> I had an 81 Datsun B210 wagon that I squeezed 326000 out of the same
> engine. I got rear ended on the highway, but still drove the wreck
> until the U joints fell apart in the drive shaft.

I was pretty happy with my '78 B-210 that made it to 108000 in 1988. I
blew a gasket and it was all rusted out, so I gave it to Goodwill and let
my old man take a tax deduction. The replacement ('86 Pulsar) is still
hanging in there at 62000 (I haven't had a long car commute in years),
but it hasn't impressed me the way the B210 did. Too underpowered
though, the guy I bought it from warned me not to take it over 65. That
caused a few sphincter-tightening moments on I-495.

ObT: I was checking out my new navel, and my belly botton, which used to
be one of the more disgusting outies, with crusty purple pimple-like
things, is partly buried now. I can't viz the scar yet, there's still
layers of surgical tape that I'm supposed to let drop off.

--
AS

Wes Payne

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The Enemy Within <unava...@this.point.in.time> wrote in article
<34CA40...@this.point.in.time>...

> Mike Kennedy wrote:
> >
> > Citizen Ted wrote:
> >[snip car bits]
>
> I got a '86 Ford Sierra. 2 litre pinto, Weber 32dfth carb, 267000 on the
> clock and can beat the fuck out of any VW of Jap crap. Before that I had
> a 2 litre Cortina. That died an honourable death on the bypass at 125
> MPH when a con rod shattered. It had 322000 miles on the clock.
>
> Lucky if the average jap kiddy car makes 80000 before it goes terminally
> belly up.

I dunno-- my Toyota has over 160000 miles on it. Of course, it was made in
California...

ObT: I don't know WHAT the cat thought that he was licking off of my
pantleg, but now there's this wet patch of cat spit where it was. I'm not
even gonna TRY to convince people that I didn't make the spot myself...

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Bill Guest

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The Enemy Within wrote:
>
> What wanker thought of
> transverse mounted engines?? He wants an entire exhaust system shoving
> up him!

Hmmmmm. The first popular use of transverse engines that I
can recall was engineered by some wankers from --- errr ----
British Motor Corporation. It was called the Austin/Morris
Mini-minor, later just the Mini. And it was followed by the
1100/1300 range.............

In other words, Pommy wankers!

Nathan J Nagel

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(was:Wom.. by The Enemy Wit...@this.po
> boat. And transverse mounted engines!!! What wanker thought of

> transverse mounted engines?? He wants an entire exhaust system shoving
> up him!

Erm, wasn't that Alec Issigonis (sp?)

freakin' Brits don't even know their own damn history.

nate

Dan

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Nathan J Nagel wrote in message ...

Alec Issigonis was Italian. He designed the Mini and other cars for what
was then British Leyland. He went for a dirt nap a few years ago.

Bill

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Mike Kennedy wrote:

> That's because whatever serves for your Department of Transportation hasn't
> thought of forcing the little Nippers to properly corrosion-proof the cars
> they send ya. These days, in the Yew Ess, Oriental (Jap and Korean) cars
> that are *imported* (not actually built in the Yew Ess) stand up rather well
> to seasonal road salt deposits.

I believe there are three problems that contribute to cars rusting
out(not including the lack of action by Transpo Dept).
Bad design...Two layers of metal close but not touching. Pockets
that catch dust that later turns to mud. British cars have
suffered from this problem and don't seem to be getting over it
Cheap construction...lack of corrision proofing and thin metal
Infection in the metal....this tends to be a country wide evil
and is more a problem of the steel manufacturer not doing the job.
It hit Japan in a big way in the late 70's. Every thing made
there rusted. It hit Germany in the late 60's. All the Mercedes
and Porsches rusted.
But the Japs sure can build cars with very thin sheet metal
these days. I can't figure how any of them past crash tests.
I've got two of them rice burners and you certainly seem to get
a lot for your money when they are new but you never want to plan
on a long term relationship.

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The Enemy Within

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ronaski wrote:
>
> The Enemy Within wrote:
> >
> > Mike Kennedy wrote:
> > >
> > > Citizen Ted wrote:
> > >[snip car bits]
I think that the argument that Jap rides are a reliability
> liability doesn't quite hold water.

In the UK they do. Problem is they build them for the warm,dry jap


climate, and when you bring one to the jolly old wet, damp UK they start
rusting before the White Cliffs of Dover have loomed into view. The
spares have to be shipped over here by boat so as well as the cost of
the spare, you have to chip in for the diesel fuel to Yokahama for the

The Enemy Within

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Jan 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/25/98
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> Hmmmmm. The first popular use of transverse engines that I
> can recall was engineered by some wankers from --- errr ----
> British Motor Corporation. It was called the Austin/Morris
> Mini-minor, later just the Mini. And it was followed by the
> 1100/1300 range.............
>
> In other words, Pommy wankers!

Yes...It's always the same. Tranverse engines? No problem, sir, we'll
make 'em here in england. What? The Hovercraft? Oh no, we'll sell THAT
to the Americans........

Some people have a strange sense of what's a good plan, and what's crap/
Concorde, for example. We weren't even allowed to spell it correctly in
case if confused the French, who struggled anyway, to develop the bits
THEY were supposed to be making. And the Australians. All they managed
was Vegemite as a contribution to world advancement......

Mike Kennedy

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Bill wrote:

> Mike Kennedy wrote:
>
> > That's because whatever serves for your Department of Transportation hasn't
> > thought of forcing the little Nippers to properly corrosion-proof the cars
> > they send ya. These days, in the Yew Ess, Oriental (Jap and Korean) cars
> > that are *imported* (not actually built in the Yew Ess) stand up rather well
> > to seasonal road salt deposits.
>
> I believe there are three problems that contribute to cars rusting
> out(not including the lack of action by Transpo Dept).
> Bad design...Two layers of metal close but not touching. Pockets
> that catch dust that later turns to mud. British cars have
> suffered from this problem and don't seem to be getting over it

Since I work on nasty old airplanes for a living, I think I'm reasonably
well-versed on how corrosion begins and how to remove it. With proper corrosion
protection (for steel, good galvanizing and decent corrosion-resistant primer), as
well as semi-smart design (proper drainage holes in door and fender panels, as
well as avoiding moisture-trapping pockets), it's not *that* difficult to build a
vehicle that won't turn into solid rust in a few years.


> Cheap construction...lack of corrision proofing and thin metal

The thickness of the metal is relatively immaterial (no pun intended) if the metal
itself is reasonably well-protected.

> Infection in the metal....this tends to be a country wide evil
> and is more a problem of the steel manufacturer not doing the job.
> It hit Japan in a big way in the late 70's. Every thing made
> there rusted. It hit Germany in the late 60's. All the Mercedes
> and Porsches rusted.

Poor metallurgy and poor choice (or none at all) of corrosion proofing. Many
'Merkin cars in the '70s were rustbuckets. And virtually *all* Mopar products
from the mid '50s through the '70s were rolling rust collections.

> But the Japs sure can build cars with very thin sheet metal
> these days. I can't figure how any of them past crash tests.

Smart design of the unibody "frame"frame helps.


> I've got two of them rice burners and you certainly seem to get
> a lot for your money when they are new but you never want to plan
> on a long term relationship.

"Maintenance", in all of its many facets, is the key.

Mike Kennedy

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The Enemy Within wrote:

> >it's not *that* difficult to build a
> > vehicle that won't turn into solid rust in a few years.
> >

> > kennedym at eye ex dot netcom dot com
>

> Indeed. De Lorean managed it, but it never sold well 'cos it cost a
> fortune to insure and was too futuristic. For the bog standard car,
> you could practically stop the rust by mixing a small percentage of
> copper in the steel, but then all the car makers would go bust, so it'll
> never happen......

Hell, Ford did it back in the late '30s. Built a pair of sedans out of
stainless steel (well, the *body panels* were stainless.) Wasn't that much
more expensive than regular steel, but more difficult to work with, natch.

But it's far easier and more cost effective to design the damned things
right the first time around.

The Enemy Within

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Mike Kennedy wrote:
>
> Bill wrote:

The Enemy Within

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Nathan J Nagel wrote:
>
> Erm, wasn't that Alec Issigonis (sp?)
>
> freakin' Brits don't even know their own damn history.
>
> nate

Well, only one, and only that particular obscure fact... I'm not
bothered who invented it, it's who and how they make it now that affects
us!! But thanks for the info :)

Lyndon Watson

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In article <34CA81...@this.point.in.time>,
The Enemy Within <unava...@this.point.in.time> writes:
> And transverse mounted engines!!! What wanker thought of

> transverse mounted engines?? He wants an entire exhaust system shoving
> up him!

Alec Isoginnis (sp?), the designer of the Mini, 1100, 1800, etc etc.
Copied now by just about everyone. He's dead.

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Lyndon Watson L.Wa...@csc.canterbury.ac.nz
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Nathan J Nagel

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Excerpts from netnews.alt.tasteless: 25-Jan-98 Re: Crap Jap Cars
(was:Wome.. by Mike Kennedy@BOBBITTHISi
>
> Hell, Ford did it back in the late '30s. Built a pair of sedans out of
> stainless steel (well, the *body panels* were stainless.) Wasn't that much
> more expensive than regular steel, but more difficult to work with, natch.
>
> But it's far easier and more cost effective to design the damned things
> right the first time around.
>

Yup. Seen both of them (or the same one twice?) also there was an old
"suicide door" Lincoln (like the Kennedy car) also with stainless.
You're right about the workability problem, also it's harder to weld
stainless if you ever need to repair it.

If you use a wax-based undercoating (like VW and other German cars do
now) not that tar crap over galvanized steel your car will last a
reasonably long time, assuming that all drainage holes are kept clean
and there's no obvious design problems (like have been discussed to
death here...)

nate

ObT: Hey, there's got to be one... this thread is NOT TASTELESS at
all... Anyway, about a month ago I was visiting Pittsburgh to get my
Poky Treats (tm) whereupon I realized I was coming down with a cold.
So, I thought to myself, I'll just get myself some kim chee jee gae,
that will clear my head right up. My SR's roommate suggested a new
Korean restaurant on Atwood St. so off we went. Soup was good, but it
had thos little baby shrimp in it. I don't generally eat shrimp, but
what the hell, it still tasted pretty good despite that seafoody smell...
Fast forwart two day. I'm laying in bed, feeling all intestinally
stopped up. Praying that my innards will finally decide to loosen up so
I can walk normally again. Ah, there's the signal... run, drop trou,
sit.... *WHOOOOOOOOSHHHHHHH*
I've never seen anything like it. My body stopped absorbing water
for three whole days. By the end of that time I was feeling to crappy
to eat anything, I was just chugging water and OJ, the stuff coming out
my ass looked exactly like the stuff going in. Have you any idea how it
feels to be carrrying around two plus gallons of water in your
intestines? Oh, wait, I forgot, some opf yunz do that *on purpose*...


Mike Kennedy

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Nathan J Nagel wrote:

> > Hell, Ford did it back in the late '30s. Built a pair of sedans out of
> > stainless steel (well, the *body panels* were stainless.) Wasn't that much
> > more expensive than regular steel, but more difficult to work with, natch.
> >
> > But it's far easier and more cost effective to design the damned things
> > right the first time around.
> >
>
> Yup. Seen both of them (or the same one twice?) also there was an old
> "suicide door" Lincoln (like the Kennedy car) also with stainless.
> You're right about the workability problem, also it's harder to weld
> stainless if you ever need to repair it.

I hadn't seen the stainless Continental. Musta been a sharp car.


> If you use a wax-based undercoating (like VW and other German cars do
> now) not that tar crap over galvanized steel your car will last a
> reasonably long time, assuming that all drainage holes are kept clean
> and there's no obvious design problems (like have been discussed to
> death here...)

Yepper. And it's one of the problems incurred when you've been suckered into
buying aftermarket "rustproofing" by the dealer. They spritz that wax-based shit
into places that weren't intended to be "rustproofed", and the drain holes get
all plugged up. Makes the rust show through that much more quickly.

ObWhine: Was out and about in the GTX last Saturday. Whilst it was parked in a
public lot, some shithead backed into it. Cracked (pretty badly) the left
taillight and bent and broke a piece off the bezel. Goddammit. Didn't do any
other damage, so I suppose I should be "grateful". Gonna be a bitch to find
replacements...

--

If you make like Lorena and do some judicious trimming in the address header, you
*might* just be able to e-mail to me.

My employer is not responsible, etc., ect., ect.
Neither am I.

Rev. Mike Kennedy, ULC

Sergeant Zeno

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On 20 Jan 1998 07:36:34 GMT, Alraune <alr...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>> Next time, I'm gonna go ahead and lop off the whole damn finger.
>>It's only my left hand, after all. And only homo's pay attention to
>>their left hand, right?
>>
>Hey, that's my monkeyspank hand! Like Captain USA used to say on
>Saturday afternoons, "Say hello to my old pal Lefty!"

My monkeyspank (squeeze the Bobo) hand is my left as well.
Even though I am right-handed.

Is this uncommon?

Z
--
---------------------------------------------
Sergeant Zeno
Loose Cannon and Internet Redneck
A Practicing Pyrokleptonecrobestialist
---------------------------------------------

ronaski

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Sergeant Zeno wrote:
>
> On 20 Jan 1998 07:36:34 GMT, Alraune <alr...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Next time, I'm gonna go ahead and lop off the whole damn finger.
> >>It's only my left hand, after all. And only homo's pay attention to
> >>their left hand, right?
> >>
> >Hey, that's my monkeyspank hand! Like Captain USA used to say on
> >Saturday afternoons, "Say hello to my old pal Lefty!"
>
> My monkeyspank (squeeze the Bobo) hand is my left as well.
> Even though I am right-handed.
>
> Is this uncommon?
>
> Z

I am right handed, and almost exclusively use it for beating the
puppet. I have used my left hand on occasion, but it feels so different
that I almost get the feeling that I'm having sex with a stranger.

After I finish, I wait for lefty to fall asleep. Then I try to leace
the room without leaving my phone number. It never works.

--
ronaski

Rotes Sapiens

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On Sun, 25 Jan 1998 22:56:59 +0000, The Enemy Within
<unava...@this.point.in.time> wrote:

>Bill Guest wrote:

>Yes...It's always the same. Tranverse engines? No problem, sir, we'll
>make 'em here in england. What? The Hovercraft? Oh no, we'll sell THAT
>to the Americans........

>Some people have a strange sense of what's a good plan, and what's crap/
>Concorde, for example. We weren't even allowed to spell it correctly in
>case if confused the French, who struggled anyway, to develop the bits
>THEY were supposed to be making. And the Australians. All they managed
>was Vegemite as a contribution to world advancement......

Woah, bite!
Some things the Aussies have (supposedly) invented are:
- lawn mower (petrol powered)
- clothes hoist
- snow skis (?)
- black box flight recorder

The last one might not be relevant to the Concorde, because to my
knowledge none of them have ever crashed.


Sometimes things are so bad I'm glad I sleep at home. Otherwise I would have
trouble getting home every morning.


Citizen Ted

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ze...@diggity.schwag.org (Sergeant Zeno) wrote:


>My monkeyspank (squeeze the Bobo) hand is my left as well.
>Even though I am right-handed.

>Is this uncommon?

Well, according to Masters & Johnson,
"Any man who is primarily right-handed and engages in masturbatory
activity with the left hand is 78% more likely than not to exhibit
characteristics indicative of a flouncy, mincing, snivelling little
weiner-boy who cries for his mama when the cocoa gets cold."
- Masters & Johnson, 1984, p225

Hey man, what can I say?
You can't argue with science!

- TR
- about to get a scary phone call from the Pentagon.


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