Both sides of the story...
Kurt Foster
release the videotape of Mr. Bill's grand jury testimony, and about 2500
pages of grand jury proceedings. Can the Internet stand the strain?
Bad news is, they spent so much time drooling or wiping their glasses
over the steamy material, the release has been delayed till Monday. So
much for a fun weekend of TV.
Best prospect is, of CNN doing a "split screen" broadcast - Mr. Bill
giving his annual address to the United Nations on one side, and giving
his testimony to Ken Starr's grand jury on the other. Might be worth
taping ;-)
Bill
> Good news (for a.t.-ers) is, the House Judiciary Committee has voted to
> release the videotape of Mr. Bill's grand jury testimony, and about 2500
> pages of grand jury proceedings. Can the Internet stand the strain?
What exactly is the good news. They had every word of testimony on
transcript. That was being released to the public. The release of the tape
serves only one purpose, to embarrass the president. What can be good
about politicians sinking to that level. It has made the whole process
partisan. I think it still takes a two thirds majority to send up a bill of
impeachment. It will be impossible now that no Democrats will vote with
the majority.
Its amazing that only Ford and Carter are the only two that have escaped
the mud. I thought that Ford was involved in a lot of shit that was criminal
before he took office and then the pardon of Nixon was a nasty act. And
who can forgive Carter for all that lusting he did in his heart.
The Vyrdolak
>
>only Ford and Carter are the only two that have escaped the mud.
>I thought that Ford was involved in a lot of shit that was criminal
Ford tried to bring impeachment proceedings against Supreme Court
Justice Abe Fortas. I'm not sure on what grounds, prolly just for
being a liberal Jewboy. Fortas was persuaded to resign by Johnson(?).
ObT: We have a programmer at work who technically works for me part
of the time; let's call him 'Saul'. I say 'technically', because I am
an incompetent manager and he is a talented but useless fuck. His
soon-to-be replacement, 'Dieter', just started work yesterday.
I jokingly suggested to my boss that Dieter come to work his first day
in an SS uniform to get a message across to Saul. He hid a snicker.
However, this was still a horrible thing to have said, and absolutely
wrong to boot.
Having met Dieter, I believe he *should* be wearing a tuxedo and a
cape. He's gaunt, has pallid skin, pointed ears, and unnaturally
sharp teeth: we've hired Nosferatu! He has an uncanny resemblance
to Max Schreck. We should get along fine....
The Vyrdolak
Alraune
Vyrdolak) writes:
>
>I jokingly suggested to my boss that Dieter come to work his first day
>in an SS uniform to get a message across to Saul. He hid a snicker.
>However, this was still a horrible thing to have said, and absolutely
>wrong to boot.
>
with a coffee mug. Both items have a red skull and crossbones, and the
lightning bolts, along with the motto 'Meine ohre heibt zreuc!' or
something...it's hard to make out the gothic letters. It means "My
honor is loyalty!" The mug also has the SS unit, No. 4, and the word
Standarte.
Nobody said shit about the shirt, but what could they say anyway? I'm a
Yid. It's like somebody wearing a Buckwheat t-shirt. If I do it, I'm a
racist, but if an Afrocoon wears one, well, that's just tough shit,
Whitey. All the same, it was the weekend and I'm not planning to make a
habit of wearing it. My new boss is a Polack.
The old man selling them was a former crewmember on a U-boat, and his
brochure claims that he tried to scuttle his ship on the day of his
capture in 1944. His designs were mainly U-boats, Panzer divisions and
individuals (Hitler, Himmler, Von Rundstedt, etc.), but there were a
few others like the Afika Korps and the Horst Wessel with the words of
the song. There's too many designs for me to list them here, but I'm
going to see him again next month at another show. If anybody has a
request they want me to pass on to him, send me a message. Shirts were
$18, mugs are $14 and steins are $19. Needless to say, any of these
items would make a great TSS.
Alraune
Rat & Swan
>
> I wore an S.S. t-shirt to work last week. I got it at a gunshow, along
> with a coffee mug. Both items have a red skull and crossbones, and the
> lightning bolts, along with the motto 'Meine ohre heibt zreuc!' or
> something...it's hard to make out the gothic letters. It means "My
> honor is loyalty!"
"Meine Ehre heisst Treue" "My honor is loyalty" It was the phrase
written on the daggers and belt buckles. The Sturmabteilung (SA) daggers
bear the motto "Alles fur Deutschland!" (All for Germany, or, My all for
Germany!" The highly prized Roehm presentation SA daggers were
inscribed with "Im Herzlicher freundschaft, Ernst roehm" (In heartfelt
friendship, Ernst Roehm". After the Purge of 1934, most of the Roehm
daggers were either discarded, destroyed or had the name ground off the
blade. Thus, daggers with the full inscription are VERY valuable.
> The mug also has the SS unit, No. 4, and the word Standarte. Thus, it represented Standard #4, or Unit #4 A standarte (in 1932) contains 1200 to 3,000 men. Numbers changed over time. The leader of a Standarte was a Standartenfuehrer, or roughly the equivalent of a colonel.
BTW, while I tend to doubt that the SS had 'official coffee mugs' (it's
a repro) the DID have official china service and sterling silver
tableware! The officers' mess service was white china with a runic SS
surrounded by an oak leaf wreath. A thin black band ran around the
plate's rim slightly in from the edge. The silver was plain handles
with the runic SS stamped heavily into the top part of the handle.
There was matching SS table linen and napkin rings. Our boys in black
may have been murdering psychopaths, but they were CIVILISED
psychopaths, thank you! Let's keep this in perspective!
> Nobody said shit about the shirt, but what could they say anyway? I'm a
> Yid. It's like somebody wearing a Buckwheat t-shirt. If I do it, I'm a
> racist, but if an Afrocoon wears one, well, that's just tough shit,
> Whitey. All the same, it was the weekend and I'm not planning to make a
> habit of wearing it. My new boss is a Polack.
How crude and racist of you! The correct term is Polack-American! Rat
happens to own a truly funny T-shirt with Kliban-style cats in SS
uniform. the legend is a pun in German: "SS Totenkatze". The pun is on
the word Totenkopf (death's head) or the skull and crossbones.
Totenkatze (Deathcat) auf Deutsche.
I did a cartoon on the Bundeswehr (war department) putting dogs in
uniform and calling it Hundeswehr (dogs of war). German puns are SO
rewarding!
German French ones moreso... das Leide von der Merde! for example.
Anyway Rat wants to find a Roehm t-shirt. If this gun-show fellow can
make one up or has one to sell, we'd be interested. VERY interested.
> The old man selling them was a former crewmember on a U-boat, and his
> brochure claims that he tried to scuttle his ship on the day of his
> capture in 1944. His designs were mainly U-boats, Panzer divisions and
> individuals (Hitler, Himmler, Von Rundstedt, etc.), but there were a
> few others like the Afika Korps and the Horst Wessel with the words of
> the song. There's too many designs for me to list them here, but I'm
> going to see him again next month at another show.
So post his address here, eh? It's truly amazing the stuff you can find
at a gun-show! I found an SS whip one time. It was a wooden handle with
leather fall, a serviceable, but hand made cat-o-nine. I didn't buy it
because it was old enough that to actually USE it would have destroyed
the leather! *sigh* Although I *could* have dine a Blutfahne (bloodflag)
type of thing and touched all my other whips, cats and crops TO it to
transfer the 'mana' or energy... 20/20 hindsight.
> If anybody has a
> request they want me to pass on to him, send me a message. Shirts were
> $18, mugs are $14 and steins are $19. Needless to say, any of these
> items would make a great TSS.
>
Actually, the best TSS is something that can be quietly worn. I have
two Nazi Party badges, white, black and red enamel with
Nazionalsozialistiche Deutches Arbeiterpartei N.S.D.A.P. on the rim and
a black swastika in the center. Beautiful workmanship and very
unobtrusiive. I've also worn an SS tietack on my suits at work. Nobody
noticed!
I have an SS identity card that I've carried for the sheer joy of it!
It's a blank form, liberated from an SS office in the ending days of the
war. It has Heinrich Himmler's stamped signature on it. Very
impressive!
Swan
Psi Corps
Alraune
>
>> The old man selling them was a former crewmember on a U-boat, and
>> his brochure claims that he tried to scuttle his ship on the day of
>> his capture in 1944. His designs were mainly U-boats, Panzer
>> divisions and individuals (Hitler, Himmler, Von Rundstedt, etc.),
>> but there were a few others like the Afika Korps and the Horst
>> Wessel with the words of the song. There's too many designs for me
>> to list them here, but I'm going to see him again next month at
>> another show.
>
>So post his address here, eh?
Sorry, I won't do that without his permission. He is an old man (he
looked like Jim Carrey as Fire Marshall Bill with a Santa Claus beard),
and I don't want him getting any hate mail from those who aren't in on
the joke. But if you email me I will forward them to him or take them
to the show. I don't think he takes credit card orders.
And sorry, Ernst Roehm is not on the brochure. Rudolf Hess is, but weho
wants a mug with that pussy's face on it?
Alraune
Dave Garrett
says...
> BTW, while I tend to doubt that the SS had 'official coffee mugs' (it's
> a repro) the DID have official china service and sterling silver
> tableware! The officers' mess service was white china with a runic SS
> surrounded by an oak leaf wreath. A thin black band ran around the
> plate's rim slightly in from the edge. The silver was plain handles
> with the runic SS stamped heavily into the top part of the handle.
> There was matching SS table linen and napkin rings.
Goddam, I'd love to have several place settings of that
particular china pattern. It would add just the right touch to
festive occasions such as Thanksgiving or Christmas dinner. Just
wait until the in-laws have a mouthful of food then casually
mention that the silver all came from resmelted dentalwork.
Speaking of mass murder, I'm happy to report that my wife and I
drove up Cielo Drive specifically to see Sharon Tate's house last
week while we were in LA. All you can see from the road is the
driveway, and we speculated that the owners had had the address
changed due to repeated pilgrimages from jaded thrill-seekers
such as ourselves; the original address, 10050 Cielo, is nowhere
to be found, and the street numbers jump from 10048 to 10052. But
there's no mistaking the driveway at 10048 if you've seen it in
pictures.
Dave "good food, good meat, good Glub, let's eat"
A.Lizard
Rat & Swan <lab...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>Alraune wrote:
>noticed!
>
>I have an SS identity card that I've carried for the sheer joy
of it!
>It's a blank form, liberated from an SS office in the ending
days of the
>war. It has Heinrich Himmler's stamped signature on it. Very
>impressive!
THAT should be scanned and put on the Web... there are uses for
that sort of thing.
A.Lizard
>Swan
>
>Psi Corps
>
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>Anyway Rat wants to find a Roehm t-shirt. If this gun-show
fellow can
>make one up or has one to sell, we'd be interested. VERY
interested.
Finding an image of Herr Roehm on the Web and an a.t. reader
with a printer that handles T-shirt transfers (sorry, mine
doesn't) would probably be a hell of a lot easier. This is
probably something that the average "instant T-shirt" service
probably would not want to handle.
A.Lizard
Rhias K. Hall
> Speaking of mass murder, I'm happy to report that my wife and I
> drove up Cielo Drive specifically to see Sharon Tate's house last
> week while we were in LA.
I think that place is actually a recording studio now. I think that I read
about that in the Marilyn Manson book- which is quite a tasteless little
read in itself.
Also, the Museum of Death in San Diego has tons of Manson crime scene
photos, some of which have never been published. They also just bought the
car that Manson drove to the LaBianca murders. Don't miss this place if
you visit San Diego, it's on fifth street in the gaslight district.
OBJust overheard on TV: "Professor Hymen points an accusatory finger at
these results."
--
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and if he does not he is nothing more than an imbecile.
- Comte de Lautreamont (les chants de Maldorer)
Bill
> Ford tried to bring impeachment proceedings against Supreme Court
> Justice Abe Fortas. I'm not sure on what grounds, prolly just for
> being a liberal Jewboy. Fortas was persuaded to resign by Johnson(?).
>
Ford made a major attempt to have Justice William O. Douglas impeached
for an article that he wrote about trout fishing in America. The article
was
printed in some very liberal/soft porno magazine. (the mag had simply
bought the article from a service and Douglas had no control over it)
The following month, the magazine put Ford's picture on the cover and
ran an article that he had written and sold. Ford shut up very quickly.
When Ford was being confirmed, there was an a charge made against him
that he had taken a lot of payoffs to lead a vote against something.
There
was even a book written about it. But since the guys confirming him were
buddies, they would not even consider the evidence and called no witnesses
against him.
Kruge
Rat & Swan schrieb in Nachricht <36052C...@pacbell.net>...
[history lesson snipped]
Verry accurate, as far as I know - there's nothing to be added! It's funny
how, in our days, an American knows more about Nazi-insignia than the
average German! :-)
>I did a cartoon on the Bundeswehr (war department) putting dogs in
>uniform and calling it Hundeswehr (dogs of war). German puns are SO
>rewarding!
He! (g)
>Nazionalsozialistiche Deutches Arbeiterpartei N.S.D.A.P. on the rim
You better re-check the writing, because if you quoted it right you have
been had! It's "Deutsche", not "Deutsches".
>Psi Corps
Funny - when I wore my Psi Corps outfit (black suit, psi-badge, black
gloves) in the shop for the first time some customers told me it looked a
*bit* like a Gestapo uniform... :-)
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Adam P. R. Taylor
> Speaking of mass murder, I'm happy to report that my wife and I
> drove up Cielo Drive specifically to see Sharon Tate's house last
> week while we were in LA. All you can see from the road is the
> driveway, and we speculated that the owners had had the address
> changed due to repeated pilgrimages from jaded thrill-seekers
> such as ourselves;
Ah, memories.
A couple of years ago the SR of the time and I decided
to take a similar trip around the South Island of this
fair land.
Sites vistied included where Dave Gray went nuts with a
MSSA and popped nigh on a dozen people in a pissant little
seaside settlement, including old men, kids, and a copper.
Stan Grahams running battle with police, as well as a
massacre or two of the settlers by pissed off Maori were
also on the itinery.
The thing that I found most disturbing was that all these
places had since been raized to the ground as part of some
touchy-feely cleansing crap.
Thanfully photographs and books allow one to stand on the
spot an visulise death being spat out of the shadows.
This SR is the sort of person who has _shelves_ of Agatha
Christie Crime Novels, regularey reads the obituaries, and
subscribed to every murder serial (??) publication that was
advertised, and takes great joy in watching Prime Suspect
and such, pointing out errors to anyone who would watch.
On a very early date she came around to my place, and helped
me dismemeber, skin, and remove all the visible fat from
some fowl, and took great deleight in licking the blood
from her hands.
Gave me a woody right then and there.
Ah, memories, *sniff*.
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Alraune
>
>Funny - when I wore my Psi Corps outfit (black suit, psi-badge, black
>gloves) in the shop for the first time some customers told me it
>looked a *bit* like a Gestapo uniform... :-)
>
Rhias K. Hall
> Ford made a major attempt to have Justice William O. Douglas impeached
> for an article that he wrote about trout fishing in America.
Do you mean he wrote a soft-core porn article about a TROUT? Hell, I would
vote for him in a second :-)
(Or was the article a review of the book Trout Fishing In America by
Richard Brautigan?)
Enquiring minds want to spawn!
Badger
Bill
> Ford made a major attempt to have Justice William O. Douglas impeached for an
article that he wrote about trout fishing in America.
> Do you mean he wrote a soft-core porn article about a TROUT? Hell, I would
> vote for him in a second :-)
>
No it was not porn. It was about the relationship of the government to the
people. It specifically talked about the governments use of imminent domain
to take over land for a highway. Douglas was arguing that the people had
the right to a trout stream and the government should not be allowed to
destroy it.
The article was published in Evergreen Review. The magazine was owned
by Olympic press which was the company that brought in many many European
books that had been banned by the US govmint. All of Henry Miller's works,
Klee and books like "The Story of O". The magazine was not very subtle
when it came to politics. There was no issue that they would not take on.
A. Sears
>
> Rhias K. Hall wrote:
> > Ford made a major attempt to have Justice William O. Douglas impeached for an
> article that he wrote about trout fishing in America.
>
> > Do you mean he wrote a soft-core porn article about a TROUT? Hell, I would
> > vote for him in a second :-)
> >
>
> No it was not porn.
Oh ... damn.
I was hoping for an elaborated version of Kazuo's masterpiece, "How to
fuck a fish", posted here several months back.
ObSpeakingOf: Anyone know where to get one of those T-shirts that I used
to see at swap meets called, "The Happy Fisherman"? They featured a
crude line-drawing of a guy standing chest-deep in water holding a pole,
big grin on his face, and under the water a fish sucking on his choad??
I was hoping to find one of those as a gift for a fishing friend of
mine.
Rat & Swan
>
> Rat & Swan schrieb in Nachricht <36052C...@pacbell.net>...
> [history lesson snipped]
>
> Verry accurate, as far as I know - there's nothing to be added! It's funny
> how, in our days, an American knows more about Nazi-insignia than the
> average German! :-)
3/4ths German and 1/4 Danish and raised RIGHT!
Also, your government has brainwashed most i=of the kids into a guilt
trip of incredible proportions! Shameful.
> >I did a cartoon on the Bundeswehr (war department) putting dogs in
> >uniform and calling it Hundeswehr (dogs of war). German puns are SO
> >rewarding!
> He! (g)
Led (of course) by Hundrich Himmler... There were a bunch of puns in the
drawing and now I can't find it... funny though. The
Schutze(hund)staffel were represented by Himmler and I had a few
others... I couldn't make much of Adolf, his name already means "Noble
wolf" but as I recall, I drew Ernst Roehm humping his leg! Heh! June 30,
1934: the Schatzi heard 'round the world! I think I referred to his band
as the Schwulabteilung!
> >Nazionalsozialistiche Deutches Arbeiterpartei N.S.D.A.P. on the rim
> You better re-check the writing, because if you quoted it right you have
> been had! It's "Deutsche", not "Deutsches".
Typo! I checked. I was writing that from memory without examining the
badges. the 's' is my own fault. the enamel is chipped on one of them,
but I treasure them both. I have, also a tiny silver SS in a circle
tie tack that I wear now and again. It's so small that nobody notices
it! I used to have a beautiful small gole german eagle tiepn, but gave
it away.
Anyway, our family hails from the area near Bavaria, but not quite over
the border. I'll have to check the maps again.
> >Psi Corps
> Funny - when I wore my Psi Corps outfit (black suit, psi-badge, black
> gloves) in the shop for the first time some customers told me it looked a
> *bit* like a Gestapo uniform... :-)
I got nailed in a lift at a convention. Seems I'd removed my gloves as I
was returning to my room. A fan said "HEY! It's against the law to have
your gloves off in public!" I gave a truly startled, guilty leap, and
then turned to say "and do you REALLY want me to scan you and find out
what happened last night?" the person got off muttering about "damned
telepaths!" and I snickered all the way back to my room.
Swan
Psi Corps
We're all in your mind!
Rat & Swan
> > a repro) the DID have official china service and sterling silver
> > tableware!
description snipped
it was, of course, the finest Bavarian china! I used to have a set of
the same pattern, WITHOUT the SS markings... dammit...
> Goddam, I'd love to have several place settings of that
> particular china pattern. It would add just the right touch to
> festive occasions such as Thanksgiving or Christmas dinner. Just
> wait until the in-laws have a mouthful of food then casually
> mention that the silver all came from resmelted dentalwork.
Well, there was a place in (IIRC) Long Beach we all called Nazi Bob's.
Nazi Bob was a filthy, scuzzy utterly throughtly nazzzzty man! I think
he was an ex-biker. Anyway, he had a full set of the china on display! I
was *that* impressed and asked him what the price of one place setting
would be.
Now I'm only 5'1" and kinda faggy looking (moreso when I was younger).
He sidled over to me and whispered "I'll give ya a set if you'll blow
me!" He proceeded to unzip and produce the filthiest, unwashed
trousersnake I'd ever seen short of a Hells Angel's rest stop on a 3 day
run!
"Sure!" I assented. I had beren on my way into the dentist to fix a cap
that was loose on my tooth and to have another replaced. I grinned
broadly and reached into my mouth, yanked the gold cap loose and gave
him a skewered-skunk rictus, showing ALL my spiky sharp and broken
teeth!
"Holy shit!" he growled "Get those things AWAY from me!"
We never DID settle on a price for the china. it may be there still!
Good old scuzzball, Nazi Bob! I DID get a few things from him over the
years, but he was overpriced IMHO.
> Speaking of mass murder, I'm happy to report that my wife and I
> drove up Cielo Drive specifically to see Sharon Tate's house last
> week while we were in LA. All you can see from the road is the
> driveway, and we speculated that the owners had had the address
> changed due to repeated pilgrimages from jaded thrill-seekers
> such as ourselves; the original address, 10050 Cielo, is nowhere
> to be found, and the street numbers jump from 10048 to 10052. But
> there's no mistaking the driveway at 10048 if you've seen it in
> pictures.
Yeppers. Black wrought iron gate, IIRC curving drive leading up to red
roofed bungalow styled house. Thre was another house on the property, a
gate house, IIRC.. Used to pass the place regularly on the way to work.
I used to shop at the market where Tex Watson and the girls did. they
hung out in the parking lot chatting up hippie kids. there and
Birmingham High school! Tex sat behind me in a social studies or history
class one time. Whent he teacher tried to run him out, he said he was
"auditing" the class, but afterard, he was chatting up the girls as they
came out. I envied him his "cool" leather fringed jacket and shades!
There but for fortune...
Swan
I coulda been a Mansonite!! they make GREAT luggage!
Kruge
Alraune schrieb in Nachricht <6u50gq$4...@sjx-ixn8.ix.netcom.com>...
>>Funny - when I wore my Psi Corps outfit (black suit, psi-badge, black
>>gloves) in the shop for the first time some customers told me it
>>looked a *bit* like a Gestapo uniform... :-)
Of course not - they are the German police and I looked like a Nazi - so why
should they drag me away?
They allways protect their friends - it's insane - whenever there's a
neonazi demonstration the state spends lots of money for police forces to
protect the fashists from leftist groups... I *hate* that. Admitted - I
stand more on the left side of the middle (metaphorically spoken), but to
hell with extremists, both left and right - just let them punch each other
into pulp!
That would take their thoughts away from harassing us "normal" folks...
robf...@my-dejanews.com
lab...@pacbell.net wrote:
>
> I coulda been a Mansonite!! they make GREAT luggage!
>
I thought Mansons were those folks that work with mansonry---don't they have a
secret society or something?
Lorri
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>Psi Corps
>We're all in your mind!
"The corps is mother, the corps is father, the corps is brother, the
corps is sister, the corps is your weird uncle Loretta, the corps is
your grandmother, the corps is the little fat boy from 'round the
corner, the corps is...."
"Hmmm...", Bester thought, "We have to rewrite this!"
«
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Frank van der Hulst
: > BTW, while I tend to doubt that the SS had 'official coffee mugs' (it's
: > a repro) the DID have official china service and sterling silver
: > surrounded by an oak leaf wreath. A thin black band ran around the
: Goddam, I'd love to have several place settings of that
: particular china pattern. It would add just the right touch to
: festive occasions such as Thanksgiving or Christmas dinner.
Or Hannukah.
Frank.
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The Vyrdolak
>
> while I tend to doubt that the SS had 'official coffee mugs' they
Today's Wall Street Journal had an ad for an executive pocketknife,
'just like those carried by officers of a renowned European army'.
The ad didn't say which army, though.... I'm guessing they were
involved in a lot of hostile takeovers. You can have your company
monogram on the handle, but there will be a surcharge for 'Meine Ehre
Heisst Treue'.
Robert J Draper
> Today's Wall Street Journal had an ad for an executive pocketknife,
> 'just like those carried by officers of a renowned European army'.
> The ad didn't say which army, though.... I'm guessing they were
> involved in a lot of hostile takeovers.
Sorry to disappoint you but the classic European officers pocketknife
is the one attributed to the Swiss army, boring but probably true.
These knives are supposed to hold everything a Swiss officer is likely
to need in the field, mine has a Toblerone cutting device, roll of
soft toilet paper and a phrasebook with "Halt! We've got all your money"
in German, Italian and French ;-).
Rob Draper
Savage Pierre
> Sorry to disappoint you but the classic European officers pocketknife
> is the one attributed to the Swiss army, boring but probably true.
>
> These knives are supposed to hold everything a Swiss officer is likely
> to need in the field, mine has a Toblerone cutting device, roll of
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Why the FUCK would the Swiss army need these? Why have a Swiss army?
Every fucking war they've been neutral.
Faggots.
Savage Pierre
Owner of a Polish Army Knife
A.Lizard
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>Robert J Draper wrote:
>
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>Why the FUCK would the Swiss army need these? Why have a Swiss army?
>Every fucking war they've been neutral.
>
>Faggots.
Some governments feel they need an excuse to put an automatic
weapon in just about every household, and designating every male
in a certain age bracket not otherwise disqualified as a ready
reservist is as good an excuse as any. I'm not sure that this
makes the Swiss the best armed group of private citizens on the
face of the earth, but I can't think of a more likely
alternative.
Their relatively low crime rate, of course, is coincidental.
If you want to invade them, go for it.
A.Lizard
>Savage Pierre
>Owner of a Polish Army Knife
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NurzRachet
<snip Army knife comparisons>
> If you want a real German army knife, look for a "kat" knife. Has a
> cat etched on the main blade. Nice knife. Also, some of the surplus
> outfits are selling repros of the "German Paratroopers" knife, sometimes
> you'll see it referred to as the "Luftwaffe pilot's" knife.
Since Nurzy's a little dego, I carry an official Italian Army Knife.
The knife itself is about a foot long and has ravioli and spatula
attachments, silverware, a 12 quart pasta pot, a rubber pad for getting
the screw cap off of that old bottle of Strega Liqueur, a rolling pin
(aka attention-getter), bingo dabber, rosary, novena book and holy
water, sawed-off broomstick for rolling pasta dough, various good luck
and superstition trinkets, a picture of the Pope stabbing that bald
O'Connor babe in the eye with his walking stick, a cooler for storing
canolis and spumoni, and an overnight bag of support hose, suspenders,
sensible shoes and cotton J.C. Penney bras and over-sized underpants.
Nurzy
a one ana two...