I Almost Got to Shoot Somebody Tonight
Dave/Kristin Hall
Welp, seems that a party down the street went wrong just as we (Kristin,
myself, and a friend) were walking out to say good night (to the friend).
Suddenly the street was filled with speeding cars and about 20 or so
people running like hell amid shouts of "I'm gonna kill you motherfuckers!"
We ran in. I grabbed a gun and chambered a round (I keep that particular
gun handy with a 2/3 magazine). I went into our backyard to make sure that
nothing "spilled over" onto my turf. I hopped up on our fence (pretty well
hidden in the shadows), watching the mayhem and trying (in vain!) to
remember license plate numbers (Oh, Kristin was calling the cops as I was
doing this.).
One goup of punks loaded up into a car just as the cops were hitting the
neighborhood. They apparently decided that the car was not going to make
it out of the neighborhood (only two ways in and it was clear from the
sound of the sirens the cops were approaching simultaneously from both.)
and jumped back out of the car to disperse by foot.
One of them ran my direction, obviously intent on hopping the fence into
my back yard. Just as I was raising the gun(*) he looked up and saw me.
I never saw somebody change directions so fast in my life.
Cops got three of 'em...one hiding in the bushes of my front yard...but
my hero made his getaway :(.
(*) Not wanting to shoot (for legal reasons), but suddenly finding myself
between a rock and a wierdo...which fortunately *can* be legal justification.
--
David Hall
Propulsion Geek At Large
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David Hall
Propulsion Geek At Large
The Hurtin' Pup
theh...@ridgecrest.ca.us (Dave/Kristin Hall) inked the following:
>One of them ran my direction, obviously intent on hopping the fence into
>my back yard. Just as I was raising the gun(*) he looked up and saw me.
I too once had a close encounter with the ultimate fantasy. We were sleeping and
I heard somebody banging on our window air conditioner, window frame, etc.
Certain someone was trying to gain entry I slipped out with my worked .45,
complete with Glazier Safety Slugs, and crept around the building. There I found
a guy totally drunk, throwing stones at the window upstairs trying to wake his
jilted lover. Seems he was hanging on to the AC for balance.
I have never before pointed a loaded weapon at someone and it was an extremely
high adrenalin moment. I mean - I had this dude lined up - magazine in, round
chambered, hammer back, grips squeezed. It was just me and my index finger
keeping this loser from exiting the continuum.
He just about dies when he saw me. I grabbed his sorry ass and gave him shit for
scaring the hell out of me and reminding him how close he came to dying. For
christ sake, what if in a drunken stupor he'd a lunged at me? I would have offed
him in a New York minute.
Yipes.
Remember, shoot twice - you are shooting to kill and if so make sure it happens.
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The Hurtin' Pup
cinch...@fijfi.nerfball (Mr. Crank) inked the following:
>On Sun, 30 May 1999 18:17:30 GMT, hur...@thepup.com (The Hurtin' Pup)
>wrote:
>
>>Remember, shoot twice - you are shooting to kill and if so make sure it happens.
>
>Bad advice in most places. You are shooting to terminate a threat to
>your or someone else's well-being. You shoot until the threat is
>neutralized...no more, no less. You generally don't shoot unless you are
>in fear for your or another's life.
Not so - there is justified use of the weapon. Type of injury is irrelevant. You
are either found to be justified in the use of the weapon or not. If not, then
appropriate charges are filed; assault, etc. But I don't think there is a DA
around that would charge someone for killing in this situation but if the person
survived not charge anything at all.
The point is, then, that if ennobled with the right to injure or kill, go for
the kill and do it properly. A second shot after standing over the keeled over
thug is going to be very hard to defend. Always two shots - pop pop.
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Flatus M
> One of them ran my direction, obviously intent on hopping the fence into
> my back yard. Just as I was raising the gun(*) he looked up and saw me.
>
>
> between a rock and a wierdo...which fortunately *can* be legal justification.
>
I heard a loud crash in a nearby area, followed by the unmistakable
sound of retards thrashing through the undergrowth in the dark, laughing like
hyenas.
I went to the back porch area, there were no lights on. Zero illumination.
About three doors up, I heard, "Goddamnit, look at what you've done! You
bastards!", and assorted other ravings.
Then I heard a giggle, startlingly close. A minimum of three, juvenile
pranking retards were hiding in bushes on *my* property. The rant
against them continued from up the street, something really big must
have been broken. They snuffled and laughed, twenty feet from my house.
Now I pulled my share of pranks in high school and early college. Some
were *really* bad. But thrashing through underbrush? Stopping and
laughing so loudly you wake people up with it? That was just bad form,
and very irresponsible.
So I got the Benelli*. I emptied the one I keep in the pipe. Silently I
returned to the open rear door, and, in cover behind the frame, said
conversationally, just loud enough to get to where the retards were
hiding:
"Say, can any of you identify this sound?"
Then I racked the shotgun real loud and slow.
All breathing sounds stopped. Not a leaf rustled. For a long time. Maybe
five minutes. Then all three launched themselves out of there
impressively fast.
There was probably a piss-track a mile long.
ObT: Contusions, sprains, scratches, gouges, puke, piss, and shit ruined
clothes obtained running drunk and terrified through nettles, blackberry,
and low scraggly trees, over broken, rutted ground, logs, and deadfall,
on a pitch black cloudy night under treecover, certain a voice with the
calm precision of Hannibal Lector and a gun the size of your worst
nightmare is right behind you.
-Flatus M
*H&K/Benelli Super 90, 12 gauge semi-auto shotgun. Fastest cycling shotgun
in the world, can empty as fast as trigger is pulled. Holds 7 + 1, and
if you know the trick, an extra one under the chamber. No choke, designed
for heavy and slug loads. A 'Combat Shotgun' ie, for killing primarily
humans. Matte black finish. Should be one in every home.
Flatus M
>
> On Sun, 30 May 1999 19:20:54 GMT, hur...@thepup.com (The Hurtin' Pup)
> wrote:
>
> >On or about Sun, 30 May 1999 19:10:43 GMT someone/thing calling him/her/itself
> >cinch...@fijfi.nerfball (Mr. Crank) inked the following:
> >
> >>On Sun, 30 May 1999 18:17:30 GMT, hur...@thepup.com (The Hurtin' Pup)
> >>wrote:
[double tapping versus threat neutralization fight uh, double-tapped]
I feel double tapping is a technique to train you to *continue*
shooting, not just go *bang*, Holy shit, did I get 'im?
IPSC (practical shooting competition) specifies that you double
tap each target to prove you are in control of your weapon!
And as to threat neutralization, that is a euphemism professionals
use to mean "Shoot them until the gun is empty." which is what
the police do...you just don't hesitate between shots or wander
around to get a better shot at a downed opponent's skull.
Net meaning of BOTH double-tapping and threat neutralization?
When your life is threatened, you shoot until you *know* the goblin
represents no more threat. And that only happens when he is as
dead as you can get him.
ALSO:
A threat can be a naked guy running from your 12-gauge jumping over
your fence after shitting in your birdbath: Why? because he *might*
have a gun stashed over there with his clothes. Can you reasonably say
there was a threat? Yup. Private citizens have *much* more rights
re: protecting their own than even police.
But it will cost you big $$$ to save your ass in court if you are
charged, and later when the civil cases are levelled at you.
ObT: Changed a diaper today. Unfolded a wondrous sight in the middle
of a medium brown, thick clay consistancy patty of poop: a huge,
still green, gooey blob of mucous! Guess the beasty blew his nose
backwards and it managed to hold together through the entire GI trip.
WOW!
-Flatus M
The Hurtin' Pup
cinch...@fijfi.nerfball (Mr. Crank) inked the following:
>Silly boy. If the goblin doesn't eat it, he will go for you in civil
>court. If the goblin eats it, the goblin's family will go for you in
>civil court. Fuck the DA. If you have one or two clues you can generally
>avoid going to criminal court. If you only have a half a clue you can
>generally win your criminal court case. Either way, you get to pony up
>significant dinero to defend your action.
I wasn't referring to civil matters at all. Though worthy of consideration in
this fucked up litigious land of ours.
>If you are *well* trained in double-tapping, by all means, use the
>technique--I'm not saying it should be abandoned. Fact is, in any tense
>situation, you don't have time to think, and you *will* revert to your
>training (you *are* trained, right?). Your training will take over. Just
>hope you got the right training.
How can a second round be bad in the sense of self-defense?
>In any case, your sole objective is to neutralize a threat. Minimum
>force and all that. If a jury thinks you fired a fatal shot *after* the
>threat was neutralized, you're fucked. Don't get me wrong...if you wanna
>be fucked, enjoy yourself. (Bubba will, too.)
That was the whole point of getting the two off back-to-back. As I said, and as
you further highlighted in your post, any additional shots better be under the
"self-defense" aegis and not well after the fact with an incapacitated reject
thrashing about.
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LINCARD 1000
Crank) wrote:
>Speaking of which, hey Lincy, ever thought of calling your starfish "Mr.
>Meat Grinder?" Maybe you could get a tattoo.
Mr Meat Grinder is on a self-imposed celibacy trip at the moment, due
to a painful run in with an oversized groganzilla. Shittin' blood isnt
the way I like to spend my time on the porcelain throne. But thank you
for your concern.
As[s] for tattoo's.. the thought had crossed my mind - concentric
circles like a bullseye target, cross hairs, or maybe a cartoon road
sign saying something like "Give Way"...
ObT: Groganzilla, it was ribbed, but not for my pleasure. :-(
LINCARD "the Black Hole of Calcutta" 1000
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The Hurtin' Pup
cinch...@fijfi.nerfball (Mr. Crank) inked the following:
>On Mon, 31 May 1999 00:02:59 GMT, hur...@thepup.com (The Hurtin' Pup)
>wrote:
>
>>How can a second round be bad in the sense of self-defense?
>
>Generally it isn't, but it certainly would be in the following case...
>
>"I shot once and he dropped like a sack of potatoes. Then I shot again
>just to make sure he was dead."
Hmmm, I thought I was pretty clear on my scenario but I guess not:
I was referring to two shots quickly in succession, essentially a single shot
fired twice. Threatened - squeeze off two and then assess.
Obviously once the threat is removed or if the threat has been reduced to the
point that fear of life is no longer a factor, a follow-up is indeed asking for
trouble.
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Monkey Boy
Mr. Crank wrote:
>
> Yeah, I know...in Texas you can blah blah blah. Fuck Texas. Fuck Texans.
> And fuck their steers, too. (Just kiddin', ya fuckin' rednecks. Settle
> down, f'chrissake. You can have the steers.)
===========
Ted,
I say, shoot to kill. And yes, I live in Texas. The two of us have had this
argument before. There ain't a jury in Texas that would convict. My only
hope is that citizens in other parts of the country would be capable of
displaying the same amount of common sense on this matter. PC sucks.
If I can destroy PC in my lifetime, I will consider my life worthwhile.
ObT: The Gores.
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"If it's dead, I can keep it that way."
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Joe and Rose Barrington
situation where you can remove one of society's cancers and go for it, you have an
untraced, easily plantible justification: A second gun illegally bought from a
straw dealer and well hidden.>;b
Wes Payne
<F1A0C0F018632A98.B950F612...@library-proxy.airnews.ne
t>...
> Mr. Crank wrote:
^^^^^^^^^
Texans.
> > And fuck their steers, too. (Just kiddin', ya fuckin' rednecks. Settle
> > down, f'chrissake. You can have the steers.)
>
^^^
[snip]
WHO?? You need to learn a thing or two about ATTRIBUTION, Boy.
ObT: When I can't tell the difference between my roommates' groceries
coming into the house, and my roommates' garbage going out...
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Joe and Rose Barrington <barr...@execpc.com> inked the following:
We're not bickering - this is a biting social issue with tasteless undertones.
Think about it - sanctioned killing in a civil environment. If one were to be
devious enough, subtle enticements known only to the plotter, could be used to
lure in the defectives. Once drawn in - if planned properly - then a simple
execution is nigh.
ObDownside - cleaning up the mess.
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Frank van der Hulst
> IOW, any time it was obvious to the shooter and any witness that the
> first shot was completely and totally sufficient, and no further shots
> were required.
Jeez, its obvious to me, and I don't even own a gun... no witnesses. Or,
at least, no surviving witnesses.
--
fra...@ee.cit.ac.nz Frank van der Hulst
My home page is http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~frankvdh
Monkey Boy
Wes Payne wrote:
> Monkey Boy <Sh...@dotcom.com> wrote in article
> <F1A0C0F018632A98.B950F612...@library-proxy.airnews.ne
> t>...
>
>
> > Mr. Crank wrote:
> ^^^^^^^^^
> > > Yeah, I know...in Texas you can blah blah blah. Fuck Texas. Fuck
> Texans.
> > > And fuck their steers, too. (Just kiddin', ya fuckin' rednecks. Settle
> > > down, f'chrissake. You can have the steers.)
> >
> > Ted,
> ^^^
> > I say, shoot to kill. And yes, I live in Texas.
>
> [snip]
>
> WHO?? You need to learn a thing or two about ATTRIBUTION, Boy.
>
============
My mistake. I gladly submit to any further flames. I fucked up. Grab the bat
and shove it up my ass.
I take full responsibility for the error of my ways.
ObT: Feeling like a worthless piece of human garbage.
Dutchie
Ok. That's it. I've been lurking around a.t. for years and I just
can't take it anymore. Today I'm posting, even if it means having my
choad beaten to a pulp with a rusty meatgrinder by the Two Fat Ladies.
I don't give a shit.
IMHO, you people have all the rights in the world. If you want to
witness a completely fucked society, where the average tax-paying,
Glub fearing decent human being has absolutely FUCKALL rights, come to
sunny South Africa. And the world thought the ANC was ruling this
shit-stain society. Nope. The fucking criminals are. The Russian mob,
the Triads, the Italians, the Nigerians - you name it, they control
it.
And go shoot one of these "poor oppressed" little fucking bastards.
Prepare yourself to be the bride of a big ZULU guy named Bubba.
The new Article 49 of our wonderfull Police Law has been amended to
such an extend that a cop may only draw (not even fire!) his/her gun
once a criminal has actually fired a first shot. Fuck it.
So here is some advice from someone who has to deal with this shit
every day of his life: Forget about guns. Spray them with pepper gas
whenever possible, tie the piece of shit up, and suffocate him with a
plastic bag. Silent, clean, no evidence, and no problems afterwards.
So what the fuck does this guy know? Well surprise surprise - I used
to be a cop. A South African cop. Who knows how to kill, mame and
torture with the best of 'em. Need some good methods to torture some
commie pig? You need only ask.
Dutchie
ObTastless: A common torture method employed by the "old regime" was
the Bundu-Bash. Tie terrorist to the front of a Caspir all-terrain
vehicle (I'll post a pic to a.t.p upon request), and drive through as
many thorn bushes as possible. After about 20 minutes said fucker has
stopped screaming and turned into a Freddy Kruger lookalike. Cleaning
the bits of flesh and shit out of the radiator was quite a mission I
have been told.
On Sun, 30 May 1999 18:17:30 GMT, hur...@thepup.com (The Hurtin' Pup)
wrote:
>
>Remember, shoot twice - you are shooting to kill and if so make sure it happens.
>____________________________
A.Lizard
Problem with this one is that older police are likely to have
heard of the "alibi gun". An entertaining description of its use
is to be found in Frank Jordan's "No Second Place Winner". (a
how-to book on gunfighting)
A.Lizard
>ObDownside - cleaning up the mess.
>____________________________
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t...@rak061.oulu.fi
Double-tap is an proven and effective technique. However, there's also
popular triple-tap also known as 'Mozambique Drill' recommended if
you suspect that target may be wearing body armor. In simplified
terms, this means two shots in rapid succession to mid-thorax and
(Necessarily slower due to smaller size of the target) follow-up to the
head should it prove necessary.
Of course, going straight for the head is always an option but more
difficult due to aforementioned size difference. Still, a proper head-shot
is about guaranteed to drop the opponent despite whatever drugs
he may have taken. With proper head-shot it is also about guaranteed
that the target is dead before he hits the floor.
Also, one should remember that sometimes, if the opponent is
ornery/drugged/whatever enough, he can function for tens of seconds
despite the fact that his heart is blown to bits or some other equivalent
lethal injury has been inflicted and the objective fact is that he's
a walking dead but just doesn't know it yet. In these cases, a gross
disruption of central nervous system is about the only option for
immediate stop.
--
Tapio Erola t...@rieska.oulu.fi (No mail to t...@rak061.oulu.fi please)
Pity you'll get for free, Envy has to be earned
A.Lizard
(Dutchie) wrote:
[snip]
>
>So what the fuck does this guy know? Well surprise surprise - I used
>to be a cop. A South African cop. Who knows how to kill, mame and
>torture with the best of 'em. Need some good methods to torture some
>commie pig? You need only ask.
Consider yourself asked.
A.Lizard
>D
Lenore Levine
>IMHO, you people have all the rights in the world. If you want to
>witness a completely fucked society, where the average tax-paying,
>Glub fearing decent human being has absolutely FUCKALL rights, come to
>sunny South Africa. And the world thought the ANC was ruling this
>shit-stain society. Nope. The fucking criminals are. The Russian mob,
>the Triads, the Italians, the Nigerians - you name it, they control
>it.
Dutchie, dear, I'm not quite sure what you're trying to imply.
Do you think the current collapse of South Africa shows that
apartheid was a Good Thing? Does the similar -- but much
worse -- collapse of the Soviet Union show that Communism was
a Good Thing?
In any case, I enjoyed reading your post, and yes, I would like
to hear about your favorite interrogation methods. In particular,
did you ever get to interrogate women?
ObMasterRace: A few days ago, I was talking with a friend about
redheads. I said that the red-haired gene had originated in
Scandinavia, and had been spread by the Vikings throughout
Northern and Eastern Europe. I then mentioned that the orange
cat gene had also originated in Scandinavia.
My friend asked me, "You're not going to blame _this_ on the
Vikings?"
ObT: The image of a tall red-haired warrior with a horned
helmet pumping his schlong in and out of a tabby-cat, as
said tabby wails in mingled fear and ecstasy.
Lenore Levine
Dave79
> lure in the defectives. Once drawn in - if planned properly - then a
simple
> execution is nigh.
>
About a year ago here in Memphis a dude capped two badguys who were trying
to rob him at an ATM in the middle of the nite. The shooter had graduated a
gun course and got his carry permit only a few months beforehand. Well, the
numero uno part of self defense is risk avoidance, ie, what the fuck was he
doing at an ATM at o'dark thirty?? Dude had to be trolling. Just so he could
cap a couple negroes. He skated though, no charges filed.
Ranger Dave
GRay
> to rob him at an ATM in the middle of the nite. The shooter had graduated a
> gun course and got his carry permit only a few months beforehand. Well, the
> numero uno part of self defense is risk avoidance, ie, what the fuck was he
> doing at an ATM at o'dark thirty?? Dude had to be trolling. Just so he could
> cap a couple negroes. He skated though, no charges filed.
>
> Ranger Dave
Glad he did get off.
If enough perps get capped, the concept of Clue will begin to sink in.
Fuck with folks, get a headshot. Cocealed carry should be available in
*all* areas.
--
GRay-
Kill the extra "g" for mail.
"I went apeshit." Alraune
Dutchie
wrote:
>
>Dutchie, dear, I'm not quite sure what you're trying to imply.
>Do you think the current collapse of South Africa shows that
>apartheid was a Good Thing? Does the similar -- but much
>worse -- collapse of the Soviet Union show that Communism was
>a Good Thing?
No. Not at all. It sucked, plain and simple - even if you were white.
Hell, I clearly remember those stupid school teachers trying their
best to shove their Calvinist Ultra-Conservative, Keep-Your-Hair-Short
and Stop Listening To That Damn Heavy Metal mindsets up our tight
rectums. If you were black you had to piss in the "blacks-only"
toilets, walk to school, and be off the streets at 21:00. If you were
white you had to wear a millitary haircut, play rugby, drink Brandy
and Coke, and suck up all that Calvinist propaganda. I think it sucked
for everyone who had half a brain and could realize that it was all a
load of bullshit.
>
>In any case, I enjoyed reading your post, and yes, I would like
>to hear about your favorite interrogation methods. In particular,
>did you ever get to interrogate women?
>
Women, sadly no. But as a compromise I got to hold down a white
liberal while Mr. Interrogator shoved a piece of dry-ice up his ass. I
still get a hard-on just thinking back and imagining that facial
expression change from disgust to pleasure to "oh shit" to sheer
agony.
UrrrrrrrghhUmmmmAhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hell, just the other night I saw a BBC documentory showing some
standard-issue pigs letting their dogs have a bite on some car
hijackers. MmmmmMmmmm. Brings back some memories. *sniff*
Anyway, If the A.T. regulars thinks my posts might be worth the
bandwidth, I'll take you through all my tasteless tales from basic
police training right through to my torturing days. I'll even throw in
some of my childhood adventures that shaped me into the well-bred
young man that I am now.
Later....
Dutchie
crato
>Women, sadly no. But as a compromise I got to hold down a white
>liberal while Mr. Interrogator shoved a piece of dry-ice up his ass. I
>still get a hard-on just thinking back and imagining that facial
>expression change from disgust to pleasure to "oh shit" to sheer
>agony.
>UrrrrrrrghhUmmmmAhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>bandwidth, I'll take you through all my tasteless tales from basic
>police training right through to my torturing days. I'll even throw in
Dutchie,
This sounds like a good deal to me. When the dry ice froze the liberal
starfish, could you break it like the classical 'dip the rose in liquid
nitrogen and shatter it' trick demonstrated in schools? Talk about the
possibilities for Anal Fissure Bob.
And what about a TSS? Freeze it, snap that sucker out, size it correctly,
lacquer it and give it to some lucky recipient to wear as a ring. Just an
idea......
Crato <Who's fresh out of OBT's>
Lenore Levine
>On 2 Jun 1999 17:56:24 GMT, lev...@orion.math.uiuc.edu (Lenore Levine)
>wrote:
>>Dutchie, dear, I'm not quite sure what you're trying to imply.
>>Do you think the current collapse of South Africa shows that
>>apartheid was a Good Thing?
>No. Not at all. It sucked, plain and simple - even if you were white.
<Perceptive description of apartheid.>
>Anyway, If the A.T. regulars thinks my posts might be worth the
>bandwidth, I'll take you through all my tasteless tales...
Do we have to beg?
Lenore Levine
ObT: My toilet, which is currently awaiting repair. It can't be
flushed very easily, so it's filled with a soup of diarrhea, piss
and half-dissolved toilet paper, with the harder feces at the bottom.
Bonus: We have to keep the lid down, so kitty won't drink from it.
robf...@my-deja.com
> police training right through to my torturing days. I'll even throw in
> young man that I am now.
Please, do so. At this point I'm skipping more posts than I read. We
need some new, fresh, steaming blood...preferably sheeting across the
floor and splashing frothily around our ankles. Mmmm, that coppery
smell, that metallic bite, the shrieks of the contributor...
Remember, quality over quantity, and be as graphic as you can.
After all, the Annual A.T. Awards are coming up soon, and we have a
rather sparse field for Rookie of the Year....
Lorri
Clutching her Ms. A.T. 1998 crown with both talons and snarling at
would-be pretenders
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
Lenore Levine
>In article <37568b29...@news.icon.co.za>, keepyo...@savages.com
>(Dutchie) wrote:
>> Anyway, If the A.T. regulars thinks my posts might be worth the
>> bandwidth, I'll take you through all my tasteless tales from basic
>> police training right through to my torturing days...
>Goddam, but I hope this isn't some poser pulling a troll on dear
>ol' A.T.
As long as his posts are as entertaining as the first two,
who cares whether they're true or not?
Lenore Levine
ObTasty: A dry Martini, with a little sliver of shaved excrement
used as garnish instead of an olive.
GRay
> >Goddam, but I hope this isn't some poser pulling a troll on dear
> >ol' A.T.
>
> As long as his posts are as entertaining as the first two,
> who cares whether they're true or not?
>
> Lenore Levine
>
> ObTasty: A dry Martini, with a little sliver of shaved excrement
> used as garnish instead of an olive.
>
Hmmm. Howabout a dry 'tini with the glass rim swiped in pussy juice? Or
Choad spoo?
Flatus M
> > ObTasty: A dry Martini, with a little sliver of shaved excrement
> > used as garnish instead of an olive.
> >
>
> Hmmm. Howabout a dry 'tini with the glass rim swiped in pussy juice? Or
> Choad spoo?
Freeze the grogan and use a lemon zester. Rub the frozen grogan twist on
rim, drop in glass. Do not pinch like a lemonpeel, or it will spot your
fingers.
PussySauce and ChoadPuke are salty, work better around a Margarita
glass.
Prior to, or instead of, rocksalt.
Cum Shot:
Shake 1 part Honey Jager and 1 part (Peach or Butterscotch) Schnapps
_vigorously_ in shaker with ice, strain into shotglass. You have to get
it foamy.
Swirl it around. Tastes like candy, looks more like cum than semen does.
Flatus (hic) M
JAID
Scooter wrote:
>
> Here in New Zealand, especially in the country, it is common to "start"
> off a newly installed septic tank with a well rotting sheep. Just to get
> the thing working...
Get out of it Scooter, you blokes wouldn't waste a good sheep for an
efficient dunny - even if it was rotten.
Dutchie
wrote:
>
>Dutchie,
> This sounds like a good deal to me. When the dry ice froze the liberal
>starfish, could you break it like the classical 'dip the rose in liquid
>nitrogen and shatter it' trick demonstrated in schools? Talk about the
>possibilities for Anal Fissure Bob.
>
> And what about a TSS? Freeze it, snap that sucker out, size it correctly,
>lacquer it and give it to some lucky recipient to wear as a ring. Just an
>idea......
>
>Crato <Who's fresh out of OBT's>
>
>http://www.geocities.com/yosemite/2619
Shit, if only the "old" cops knew about this group!! Plenty of good
ideas floating around here for hours of relaxing fun with some
political prisoner.
Any way, to answer your question: Never knew if it froze, it did burn
the hell out of him going in. I presume it did the freezing bit once
inside. Took some efford to get the gloved finger out of his arse
whyle leaving ice there, too. By that time, he wasn't around anymore.
Now, had your "dip the rose..." idea surfaced in the old days, I could
just imagine the new twists that would have been added to the list of
"good fun things to do".
Example recipe:
Take 1 political prisoner (Serb/Commie/Whatever)
Add equal amount of wet & horny whore
Mix until prisoner gets nice and "stiff"
Now take prisoner and dip stiff choad into liquid nitrogen
Snap finger "snotball shooting style" on front of choad
*******SNAP***** *****CLANK****** *****CRASH******
Repeat with other limbs until only the head remains or prisoner stops
screaming.
Hell, I might even keep this recipe for later use myself....
Dutchie
Dutchie
Levine) wrote:
>
>Do we have to beg?
>
Dear Lenore,
I've become so used to people begging at my feet while I'm busy
jabbing broken lightblubs into their eye-sockets, that plain ol'
fashioned begging just won't do anymore.
BUT !! Seeing that a.t. is my newly found godly temple of Glub (I
shiver if I only mention the name....), I will share it all, no
begging required. I've posted my first (Dutchie: Cat Killer), and I'll
continue to post a few more today and over the weekend. Some will be
tasteless, some will just be pure sadistic pleasure.
Dutchie.
LINCARD 1000
wrote:
>BUT !! Seeing that a.t. is my newly found godly temple of Glub (I
>shiver if I only mention the name....), I will share it all, no
>begging required. I've posted my first (Dutchie: Cat Killer), and I'll
>continue to post a few more today and over the weekend. Some will be
>tasteless, some will just be pure sadistic pleasure.
Waaahey, A.T now has a resident psycho! A sadistic fuck with no
morals and a bitter outlook, good stuff. Now Dutchie, emigrate to the
US [if you havent already] and I'm sure the resident US A.Ters could
find you some nice WebTV/AOL/@home users to entertain...
LINCARD "Dutchie, you are one SCAREY S.O.B" 1000
Dutchie
>
>Goddam, but I hope this isn't some poser pulling a troll on dear
>ol' A.T.
If I turn out to be a troll, will you promise to give me a good
squicking then.....?
>ObT: Have a friend living in Sef Efrica who occasionally fills
>me in on the current round of troubles. He's taken to wearing
>his pistol everywhere . . .
>
>Needless to say, he's hoping to immigrate to 'Murrica as soon as
>he can.
>
Been thinking about moving abroad as well. Getting fed up with allways
having a gun around, with extra magazine (coons work in gangs - just
like baboons), alarm in house, with burglar bars, vicous killer dogs,
pepper spray, security gates, removable cd-player in car, gear-lock,
immobilizer, lock-nuts on the alloy wheels etc. etc. etc.
And I still don't feel safe.
But then again, I'd rather hang around and get to witness all the
scenes of poverty, terror, canabalism, mutalation, genocide,
gang-rape, starvation, outbreaks of Ebola, and quickie-executions when
the civil war eventually breaks out. And it will - it's just a matter
of time.
Hell, afterall, you have to stay positive at times like these....
Dutchie
obTasteless: I grew up in the farmlands, and often visited friends who
had a farm just about 2 miles out of town. One day as I was walking
around shooting pigeons (on my own), I walked passed their milking
machines and saw one of my other friends from school busy wanking-off
into the milk storage tank. Being one of their regular milk-drinking
customers, I was pissed-off enough to shoot a pellet from my air-rifle
right up his butcrack. He fell head-first into the storage tank
without getting a chance to spot me, and I had ample time to run away.
Still don't know whether it was his first time, or whether I've
unwittingly drank litres of milk containing some of his spooge.
Probably pissed in the tank too.....
A.Lizard
I agree. I have to, U. of Chicago has come up with a couple of
lovely studies that demonstrate:
1) crime rates drop in US areas with concealed carry
2) the only legal factor that affects the severity of multiple
shooting incidents is... [drum roll] concealed carry for the
obvious reasons.
URLs on both my home and Littleton pages.
The bad news is that a safer society is a less tasteless one.
A.Lizard
>--
>
>
>GRay-
>
>Kill the extra "g" for mail.
>
>"I went apeshit." Alraune
************************************************************************
A.Lizard
Levine) wrote:
>keepyo...@savages.com (Dutchie) writes:
>
>>On 2 Jun 1999 17:56:24 GMT, lev...@orion.math.uiuc.edu (Lenore Levine)
>>wrote:
>
[snip]
>
>Lenore Levine
>
>ObT: My toilet, which is currently awaiting repair. It can't be
>flushed very easily, so it's filled with a soup of diarrhea, piss
>and half-dissolved toilet paper, with the harder feces at the bottom.
Tried an M-100?
A.Lizard
The Hurtin' Pup
keepyo...@savages.com (Dutchie) inked the following:
>Anyway, If the A.T. regulars thinks my posts might be worth the
>bandwidth, I'll take you through all my tasteless tales from basic
Ohmiglub yes! Yes yes yes! Tell us, you tease.
____________________________
!
The Hurtin' Pup
GRay <ggp...@gte.net> inked the following:
>Fuck with folks, get a headshot. Cocealed carry should be available in
>*all* areas.
Here in Montco, PA, it is available to just about all with the usual criminal
past restrictions. Funny, but I never followed through on my application. I have
the sign off from the local Chief, just never sent the remainder in. Maybe I'm
worried about my past juvenile history but that supposedly isn't a factor. Maybe
I know I'll have to buy another gun as my .45 is just too big to carry about on
a regular basis.
Time to renew that app I think.
____________________________
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The Hurtin' Pup
lin...@spamilingus.fuckyou.co.uk (LINCARD 1000) inked the following:
>find you some nice WebTV/AOL/@home users to entertain...
Be nice to me - my cable co has just swapped me with Comcast (the @home) peoples
like I was a piece of meat. I hope I don't lose my connectivity in the interim.
I like this cable stuff - it's kewl.
ObT: Something about women and airplanes and vomit. I had my second
puking-woman-on-an airplane experience (posted earlier the other one). This
time, we were sitting in DTW , on the plane, with a maintenance delay. Being in
first class (always) I got to witness some lady being helped off the plane by
two F/A's, only to reach the jetway and let loose with a GGGAAAAAAAAAAAAAKKK.
This continued, almost unabated, for a solid fifteen minutes. Solid puking -
loud as puking can be. They called the paramedics. The F/A's broke out the med
kit and latex gloves. It must have been a glub awful mess.
Plane fixed, door closed, can't go anywhere. The parameds, still tending to the
puking woman, had, of all places, parked their crash cart *right behind the
goddamned airplane*. Had to wait another 30 minutes for them to move it. I hate
that fucking airport.
____________________________
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Victor Balaban
On Fri, 4 Jun 1999, Dutchie wrote:
>
> "good fun things to do".
>
> Example recipe:
>
> Take 1 political prisoner (Serb/Commie/Whatever)
> Add equal amount of wet & horny whore
> Mix until prisoner gets nice and "stiff"
> Now take prisoner and dip stiff choad into liquid nitrogen
> Snap finger "snotball shooting style" on front of choad
>
> *******SNAP***** *****CLANK****** *****CRASH******
>
This gives new meaning to Lincaird's .sig file: "You can have my
penis when you pry it from my cold, dead, fingers."
Pinhead the Cenobite
>On Fri, 04 Jun 1999 12:54:08 GMT, keepyo...@savages.com (Dutchie) wrote:
>
[milk: It does a body good]
>
>Waitaminnit..... A MILK storage tank, that is open (to the air)?
>Like for flies, cucarachas, etc to just fall into? I don't think so.
>My bullshit alarm just went off.
Hang on here. I ain't no farmhand, but there was always the obligatory
trip to the farm for the school field trip. Aren't there some types of
milk container facilities that have an access hatch on top? Dutchie
here wasn't especially specific about the type of continer in
question, and when I visited the farms, there was *always* some of
those "olde fashioned", freestanding floor milk jusgs about with a
removable lid. Now the really large, mounted-on-a-latticework-base
jobs, I don't think there was an access, except for the milk having to
be pumped in my pressure. I could, of course, be mistaken on this
though...
--
Kampai!
Remove NOSPAM for mail
LINCARD 1000
wrote:
>>find you some nice WebTV/AOL/@home users to entertain...
>
>Be nice to me - my cable co has just swapped me with Comcast (the @home) peoples
>like I was a piece of meat. I hope I don't lose my connectivity in the interim.
>I like this cable stuff - it's kewl.
Regulars would be exempt, as there are some valued A.T people who post
from AOL and @home.. ie Lots42, and... err, I *know* theres at least
one person using @home.. speak up now or forever hold my piece...
LINCARD "war'n'piece" 1000
Rev. Syd Midnight
Maybe "Can you pry your cold, dead penis from my fingers."?
Dutchie wrote:
>
> Anyway, If the A.T. regulars thinks my posts might be worth the
> bandwidth, I'll take you through all my tasteless tales from basic
> police training right through to my torturing days. I'll even throw in
> some of my childhood adventures that shaped me into the well-bred
> young man that I am now.
>
> Later....
> Dutchie
PLEASE! When I recall my days of digging for diamonds in Mr. Grogans
and Sean McCaffee's AT Archives, I always enjoyed the professional ones
(i.e.. Zeno's Army Tales, Tae's Ambulance Stories, etc.) I've wet my
pants in anticipation...
ObTorture: My favorite method from movies and TV involved tying the
person with wire to a metal bedframe, dousing them with saltwater, then
hooking them up to a hand-cranked generator.
The fun part is that they didn't receive any current until the switch
from the battery was thrown. Since it takes a bit of effort to juice up
a battery with a hand-cranked generator, the torturee gets to watch the
sweating torturer spin the handle *GrrGrrGrrGrr* until the torturer
feels that a sufficient jolt has been prepared, then BZZZZZZT!
I forget where I saw this, I think it was a Japanese POW camp (which
would make this the MILDEST torture available). After the first few
jolts, there is lotsa and LOTS of time for begging, pleading, screaming,
etc. as the torturer merrily spins the generator handle for longer and
longer periods... as anyone who's been electrocuted or stun-gunned can
attest, a proper electrical shock hurts like *HELL*. It's all in the
anticipation..
ObJapanesePOWFlashback: "Colonel Kyoto! I demand that you remove these
bamboo shoots from underneath my fingernails for the duration of this
interview! And take this bag of rats off my head.." - Anderson from
Beavis and Butthead
--
Rev. Syd Midnight - Remove SPAM from my address to reply
"I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great
pleasure."
-- Clarence Darrow
Rev. Syd Midnight
>
>
> ObT: My toilet, which is currently awaiting repair. It can't be
> flushed very easily, so it's filled with a soup of diarrhea, piss
> and half-dissolved toilet paper, with the harder feces at the bottom.
>
Sounds like a job for the SNAKE! (Eel to non-Merkins). A little used
but highly honored tool in the AT toolbox, and friend to plumbers
everywhere. You can save yourself some money by giving the electric
snake a whirl.
For people unfamiliar with the device, it's a looong, flexible steel
cable with a screw-drill bit on one end. The other end is attached
either to a hand-crank or an electric motor. If you want to be a real
trooper about it, give the hand snake a first try. You slide the drill
bit through the layers of grogansoil, around the neck of the toilet
pipe, and continue pushing until it can go no farther.. then DRILL.
But the electric snake is the most fun, as this horrid beast is
capable of generating extremely powerful torque, and while quite
effective in boring through stubborn drain blockages, a novice can
easily lose control sending coils of steel snake whipping around the
bathroom area, spraying fresh sewage and feces hither and yon while
whipping into bystanders like an insane bionic anaconda.
I'm not sure whether it's a hazy childhood memory or a
barely-repressed psychological scar, but I can remember the first time
my father took an electric snake to our toilet.. after a few minutes of
progress, it went absolutely berserk, it's serrated, filth-covered shaft
and cruelly-hooked bit withdrawing from the toilet and slapping around
the bathroom, against me and the walls because my father refused to
admit defeat and simply turn the damn thing off by letting go of the
deadman switch, nooooo, he had to fight it for supremacy, and lose.
I had the pleasure of using a hand snake last year. When deep-toilet
probes were unable to find the source of blockage, a more direct
approach was taken. The access cap was removed from the shitpipe that
ran from the upstairs toilet to the septic tank, and I was elected to
perform the awkward duty of running the snake and my hands into the
access hole a few inches above my head.
The snake wouldn't penetrate more than a foot or 2 into the hole, and
was unable to attach itself to the blockage. I remember carefully
guiding the snake head around a bend in the pipe, wondering exactly how
many toilets it had probed, how many generations of human manure
composed the corrosion along it's mighty shaft...
Alas, the snake failed, so my family cheered me on (laughed, actually)
as I jammed my arm up to the shoulder in the small sewage pipe, finally
finding a barbie doll, covered in shit and wedged *good and tight* in
the pipe. Should have kept the little plastic spelunker as a personal
tasteless mascot, "Alice in Groganland, or Through the Shitting Glass".
Funny in a way, that feces changes it's smell in plumbing. A healthy
sewage pipe smells unlike fresh grogans, much more pleasant actually.
Although septic tanks are much, MUCH worse. Any plumbers with stories
out there?
ObTorture: A personal revenge fantasy of mine... hang the nude victim
by their wrists from a chain winch in a tree, and SLOWLY lower them feet
first into a brimming septic tank. Ever so slowly, so they have hours to
appreciate the feel of 10,000 gallons of YOUR shit slowly enveloping
them. I wonder if they'd stay as still as possible, to avoid having to
feel grogans and toilet paper sloshing around their legs?
Finally, when only their upturned nose is above the sewage.. leave
them there and take a nice, relaxing shit. They have to fall asleep SOME
time... Or give them a snorkel, and lower them a foot beneath the
surface.
Rev. Syd Midnight
>
>
> Hang on here. I ain't no farmhand, but there was always the obligatory
> trip to the farm for the school field trip. Aren't there some types of
> milk container facilities that have an access hatch on top? Dutchie
> here wasn't especially specific about the type of continer in
> question, and when I visited the farms, there was *always* some of
> those "olde fashioned", freestanding floor milk jusgs about with a
> removable lid. Now the really large, mounted-on-a-latticework-base
> jobs, I don't think there was an access, except for the milk having to
> be pumped in my pressure. I could, of course, be mistaken on this
> though...
I'm assuming that their attitude towards milk is the same as mine
towards making pizza. I couldn't give a rats ass it it falls on the
floor, gets sneezed on, gets flies on it, etc. because it's going into a
400 degree oven for 20 minutes, which will kill any germs on it. Since
milk is filtered and pasteurized, they probably don't care what lands on
it or goes into it...
That's probably why milk is pasteurized in the first place. Not to
make it last longer, but to kill all of the filth, tetanus and E. Coli
it picks up from sitting in a fly, shit, and dirt filed barn.
Dutchie
(LINCARD 1000) wrote:
>
>Waaahey, A.T now has a resident psycho! A sadistic fuck with no
>morals and a bitter outlook, good stuff. Now Dutchie, emigrate to the
>US [if you havent already] and I'm sure the resident US A.Ters could
>find you some nice WebTV/AOL/@home users to entertain...
>
Thanks, I'll take that as a compliment. You know, the thing I allways
wonder about when reading a.t., is exactly how much of the stories are
made-up crap. Guess we'll never know who the real freaks are without
proof. Now "virtual" proof just won't do. And the last thing I'll do
is post a jpg to a.b.p.t. with my face on. After my previous posts
about police torture, archbishop Tutu and his TRC goons might be
working overtime trying to finding out exactly who I really am. Now
unless they threaten to stuff ice up my arse, there is no way they'll
get me to confess to *anything*. Nada. Zip. So maybe the "proof" lies
in the basic make-up of the society you originate from. So I guess
I'll just have to start posting some stories about life in Africa. The
real shit. Not the PC crap that gets fed to people in 1st world
countries.
Hell, I feel compelled to start taking some pictures for a.b.p.t. -
the real *good* stuff.
So what would you like?
a) Black taxi rolling on the highway - roadkill all over the place
b) Average shop serving "traditional" african fast-food
c) Black farm workers dragging the guts home from a freshly
slaughtered cow.
d) Same black guy 24 hours later having a liquishit right next to the
road.
e) Other black guy - crisply fried after trying to hijack a car fitted
with the new locally made *Blaster* Heard of this device before ?
Dutchie
Egg Plant
news:375898b7...@news.ham.ihug.co.nz...
> >
peoples
> >like I was a piece of meat. I hope I don't lose my connectivity in the
interim.
> >I like this cable stuff - it's kewl.
>
> Regulars would be exempt, as there are some valued A.T people who post
> from AOL and @home.. ie Lots42, and... err, I *know* theres at least
> one person using @home.. speak up now or forever hold my piece...
Me me me me....
--
Eggplant
ObT: I neglected to mention some symptoms that came from Thursday night's
allergic reaction. These were several bouts of liquishits, you know the
type: Brown water, hardly anything solid in it. Must have been the beer
racing through my colon, containing the offending substance, making a quick
exit through the backdoor.
-------------------------
"Tofu hotdogs. What the fuck? What the fuckin' fuck? This is
motherfucking AMERICA. We eat MEAT in this country. We eat meat, we
drink beer, we tell racist jokes. We're American men and we know what
we're good at."
-- Sharv
A.Lizard
(Dutchie) wrote:
>On Thu, 03 Jun 1999 14:09:42 -0400, k...@duke.edu (Strayhorn) wrote:
>
>>
[snip]
>>
>
>Been thinking about moving abroad as well. Getting fed up with allways
>having a gun around, with extra magazine (coons work in gangs - just
>like baboons), alarm in house, with burglar bars, vicous killer dogs,
>pepper spray, security gates, removable cd-player in car, gear-lock,
>immobilizer, lock-nuts on the alloy wheels etc. etc. etc.
>
>And I still don't feel safe.
Don't worry. The good news is that all of these items are
available in the US. The bad news is that you'll want most of
them except in areas in the fairly rural to real rural range.
>But then again, I'd rather hang around and get to witness all the
>scenes of poverty, terror, canabalism, mutalation, genocide,
>gang-rape, starvation, outbreaks of Ebola, and quickie-executions when
>the civil war eventually breaks out. And it will - it's just a matter
>of time.
Witness? You mean record via videocam and post MPEGs to
appropriate binaries newsgroups, don't you? I'm sure there are
other quaint native customs you haven't mentioned and that we'd
like to see them.
>Hell, afterall, you have to stay positive at times like these....
That's the spirit!
A.Lizard
>Dutchie
>
>obTasteless: I grew up in the farmlands, and often visited friends who
>had a farm just about 2 miles out of town. One day as I was walking
>around shooting pigeons (on my own), I walked passed their milking
>machines and saw one of my other friends from school busy wanking-off
>into the milk storage tank. Being one of their regular milk-drinking
>customers, I was pissed-off enough to shoot a pellet from my air-rifle
>right up his butcrack. He fell head-first into the storage tank
>without getting a chance to spot me, and I had ample time to run away.
>Still don't know whether it was his first time, or whether I've
>unwittingly drank litres of milk containing some of his spooge.
>Probably pissed in the tank too.....
************************************************************************
One of Those Robinsons
>
> That's probably why milk is pasteurized in the first place. Not to
> make it last longer, but to kill all of the filth, tetanus and E. Coli
> it picks up from sitting in a fly, shit, and dirt filed barn.
>
DINGDINGDINGDING!!!! You are CORRECT sir!! Pasteurization is named after
Frog named Pasteur, who proved that if you heat a liquid substance to at
least 165 degrees Fahrenheit, you will kill off an bacteria
contaminating it. Popular legend goes that he got the idea that milk
needed to be sterilized after some tubercular little sprog dropped her
death-laden dolly into a community milk can whilst Jean-Claude the
Farmer was selling it. Actually M. Pasteur was a microbiologist who was
trying to find a way to keep his brain-heart infusions from (a) going
over and (b) contaminating what he was wanting to study.
Actually tuberculosis in milk is spread by tubercular cows, and about
the only way to deal with that is to not have tubercular cows. Altho it
is fun to imagine some demented farmer, angry at his lot in life,
stealing his little daughter's horrible, tubercular-spray-laden Mrs.
Beasley doll, and dipping it over and over and over in the milk cans
destined for the rich elite of the town:
"HAH! Take ZIS, yu foul town councilman! May yur wife cough out her
lungs as she teks yur nasty, cheese-smelling petit stub in her mouth!"
Lorri
Strange fantasies, none of them mine
The Hurtin' Pup
lin...@spamilingus.fuckyou.co.uk (LINCARD 1000) inked the following:
>Regulars would be exempt, as there are some valued A.T people who post
>from AOL and @home.. ie Lots42, and... err, I *know* theres at least
>one person using @home.. speak up now or forever hold my piece...
I hearby apply in advance for exemption. Not sure of the domain, prolly "@home",
maybe not til next summer. Or never.
Maybe if severed I could get an interim webtv account.
____________________________
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Pinhead the Cenobite
(LINCARD 1000) wrote:
>On Fri, 04 Jun 1999 23:20:30 GMT, hur...@thepup.com (The Hurtin' Pup)
>wrote:
>
>>>find you some nice WebTV/AOL/@home users to entertain...
>>
>>Be nice to me - my cable co has just swapped me with Comcast (the @home) peoples
>>like I was a piece of meat. I hope I don't lose my connectivity in the interim.
>>I like this cable stuff - it's kewl.
>
>Regulars would be exempt, as there are some valued A.T people who post
>from AOL and @home.. ie Lots42, and... err, I *know* theres at least
>one person using @home.. speak up now or forever hold my piece...
Err... I post from @Home, Linc.
ObT: Kids who think that when you tell 'em one thing, it means do the
exact opposite, and the resulting urge to shove 'em in one of those
hardcore kids boot camps.
Pinhead the Cenobite
wrote:
>On Fri, 04 Jun 1999 10:44:58 GMT, lin...@spamilingus.fuckyou.co.uk
>(LINCARD 1000) wrote:
>
>>
>>Waaahey, A.T now has a resident psycho! A sadistic fuck with no
>>morals and a bitter outlook, good stuff. Now Dutchie, emigrate to the
>>US [if you havent already] and I'm sure the resident US A.Ters could
>>find you some nice WebTV/AOL/@home users to entertain...
>>
>
>Thanks, I'll take that as a compliment. You know, the thing I allways
>wonder about when reading a.t., is exactly how much of the stories are
>made-up crap. Guess we'll never know who the real freaks are without
>proof. Now "virtual" proof just won't do.
Personally, I do my utmost to ensure that my reporting regarding my
employ as a body snatcher is true and accurate. As for proof of what I
do, Alraune can vouch for me, due to the care package I sent him of
morgue materials a while ago, some of which can only be had if you
actually do the work.
>And the last thing I'll do
>is post a jpg to a.b.p.t. with my face on.
The answer to that one is simple: Get a copy of Photoshop or PaintShop
Pro and edit your face right out, as well as any tell tale landmarks
like roadsigns, licence plates, well known landmarks and the like.
Mark Anderson
news:37594f7b...@news.icon.co.za...
(snipperooni)
> So what would you like?
>
> a) Black taxi rolling on the highway - roadkill all over the place
> b) Average shop serving "traditional" african fast-food
> c) Black farm workers dragging the guts home from a freshly
> slaughtered cow.
> d) Same black guy 24 hours later having a liquishit right next to the
> road.
> e) Other black guy - crisply fried after trying to hijack a car fitted
> with the new locally made *Blaster* Heard of this device before ?
You forgot:
f) All of the above.
Cheers
Mark
--
A simple mistake, for which I apologised. Don't take life so
seriousley....and you can't spell - TWATT
the_len...@hotmail.com
ě
> So what would you like?
>
> a) Black taxi rolling on the highway - roadkill all over the place
> b) Average shop serving "traditional" african fast-food
> c) Black farm workers dragging the guts home from a freshly
> slaughtered cow.
> d) Same black guy 24 hours later having a liquishit right next to the
> road.
> e) Other black guy - crisply fried after trying to hijack a car fitted
> with the new locally made *Blaster* Heard of this device before ?
How about B, C, AND D ? They all sound good to me !
Dave Garrett
keepyo...@nospam.com says...
> Hell, I feel compelled to start taking some pictures for a.b.p.t. -
> the real *good* stuff.
> e) Other black guy - crisply fried after trying to hijack a car fitted
> with the new locally made *Blaster* Heard of this device before ?
Hell, yes. They had a video clip of one being demonstrated on
CNN's website a while back; disappointingly, what looked like an
ambulatory crash test dummy was used. I'd wondered how many
would-be carjackers had gotten barbecued after the "Blaster" went
on the market. The guy that invented it deserves a fucking medal.
Or at least an a.t award.
Dave
Geoff Miller
keepyo...@savages.com (Dutchie) writes:
> Still don't know whether it was his first time, or whether I've
> unwittingly drank litres of milk containing some of his spooge.
Well, as I've told people who are skittish about touching the
doorknobs on the insides of restroom doors, we'll all probably
have unwittingly ingested a kilo of other guys' smegma by the
time we expire, anyway.
There's a school of theological thought in which it's maintained
that we'll all get the to see the Big Picture when we die and go
to Hebbin. (ObGeorgeWashingtonCarver: "Don't you want to go to
Hebbin, boy?" "No suh, I wants t'go to Tuskegee!") Along with
more meaningful secrets, like whether Susie Rottencrotch faked that
orgasm up against the back wall of the gym during the Junior Prom,
we'll find out just how many lungers, boogers, and spooge wads we
consumed during our lifetimes without even realizing it. It'll be
an existentially humbling experience, I'm sure.
I had a friend in the Coast Guard, a particularly perverted cook,
who didn't "season" the food in such ways as far as I know. But
one night he got rip-roaringly drunk, went out to one of the air-
planes, and did some serious "hangar flying" while consuming a
six-pack of Budweiser talls in addition to whatever he'd already
imbibed. The crew for the next morning's training flight was
surprised to find the cockpit splattered with fragrant vomit and
littered with empty beer cans. The command was reportedly Not
Amused (this was shortly before my time), but perp was never
apprehended; my friend the twisted cook revealed all to me a
couple of years after the fact when I came into the galley between
meals to grab a cup of coffee.
ObT: Removing the partition just aft of the navigator's station
in order to do some work on the pressurization outflow valve, and
catching the faintest whiff of several-year-old vomit that had
seeped in under the wall and never gotten cleaned up.
Geoff
--
Fuzzy Pink Bunny Slippers
[Much snippage]
> my father took an electric snake to our toilet.. after a few minutes of
> progress, it went absolutely berserk, it's serrated, filth-covered shaft
> and cruelly-hooked bit withdrawing from the toilet and slapping around
> the bathroom, against me and the walls because my father refused to
> admit defeat and simply turn the damn thing off by letting go of the
> deadman switch, nooooo, he had to fight it for supremacy, and lose.
Ha! Man, you've *got* to love a toilet drain cleaning device with a
"deadman" switch on it! I guess the manufacturers of this device
*anticipate* the wild flailings that you describe.
Fuzzy
ObT: GIFs of the accident victims who used the original model before
the deadman switch was mandated.
--
"I am a lone butterfly in a room full of PIGS!" -- Brother Theodore
Geoff Miller
keepyo...@nospam.com (Dutchie) asks:
> Hell, I feel compelled to start taking some pictures for a.b.p.t. -
> the real *good* stuff.
> So what would you like?
[menu selections elided]
Do the homies still do that thing where they pour gasoline into a tire,
place the tire over somebody's head, and set it alight? (I forget the
name for the practice; something with "necklace" in it.)
Geoff
--
Monkey Boy
Rev. Syd Midnight wrote:
>
> Funny in a way, that feces changes it's smell in plumbing. A healthy
>
> sewage pipe smells unlike fresh grogans, much more pleasant actually.
> Although septic tanks are much, MUCH worse. Any plumbers with stories
> out there?
===========
Father-In-Law is a plumber. It's amazing how much shit he put's up with
(Yes, pun intended). He has snaked my drains on more than one occasion.
He has an electric snake, that I will not touch.. Doesn't seem to bother
him,
though, as he tells me to stand back. The shit will be literally flying
around
the back yard, and he will stand there, trooper that he is, and bear the
brunt
of the storm. I have hosed him down on several occasions, after which he
just jumps into his van and drives off. My Mother-In-Law must just love
it.
ObT: They have such high hopes for their 10 year old son. He's as dumb
as a brick. Wonder if he, too, will be a plumber?
-------------------------------------------
"If it's dead, I can keep it that way."
-------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------
t...@rak061.oulu.fi
> >Glad he did get off.
> >
> >If enough perps get capped, the concept of Clue will begin to sink in.
> >
> >Fuck with folks, get a headshot. Cocealed carry should be available in
> >*all* areas.
>
> I agree. I have to, U. of Chicago has come up with a couple of
> lovely studies that demonstrate:
> 1) crime rates drop in US areas with concealed carry
> 2) the only legal factor that affects the severity of multiple
> shooting incidents is... [drum roll] concealed carry for the
> obvious reasons.
Oh well, there'll always be sources of tastelessness, from diseases to
entertaining crimes of 'capital stupidity'.
Not to mention the initial fun when some prospective mass-murderers get
ventilated before others get wise.
--
Tapio Erola t...@rieska.oulu.fi (No mail to t...@rak061.oulu.fi please)
Pity you'll get for free, Envy has to be earned
Dutchie
(Pinhead the Cenobite) wrote:
>
>Hang on here. I ain't no farmhand, but there was always the obligatory
>trip to the farm for the school field trip. Aren't there some types of
>milk container facilities that have an access hatch on top? Dutchie
>here wasn't especially specific about the type of continer in
>question, and when I visited the farms, there was *always* some of
>those "olde fashioned", freestanding floor milk jusgs about with a
>removable lid. Now the really large, mounted-on-a-latticework-base
>jobs, I don't think there was an access, except for the milk having to
>be pumped in my pressure. I could, of course, be mistaken on this
>though...
Let me clear up some of the confusion and describe the metal beast:
About 1 1/5 meters heigh, about 4 meters in diameter. Fairly small.
See, most farmers around the area were farming with cattle and maize.
The milkery was usually just a sideline thing along with some porkers
and chickens. They used to sell to the general public from a little
shed. The container didn't have a hatch - the whole top was basically
a lid with an arm. Thinking way back - the lid was normally completely
open.
What cured me completely from my "fresh from the cow" milk-drinking
addiction was when I witnessed them bringing the drums containing milk
to the shed where it was sold. They used to drive with a pickup (known
in SA as a "bakkie"), from the shed to the container tank, about 300
yards, tap some milk from the container into 50 litre drums, and then
tap the milk from these drums into the containers brought their by the
general public. When tapping the milk from the drums into
bottles/containers of the buyer I actually saw them covering the
opening with a cloth to catch the flies, bugs, and whatever else
managed to get into the container in the first place. This obviously
happened behind the counter. Well, I guess some things are better left
unseen.
ObT: Nothing prepares you for a life of eating red meat like
witnessing a traditional cow slaughter. I only witnessed it once.
Basically they flip it on it's side, tie its legs together tight, and
slash its throat. The moment they start slicing the cow waves them a
final goodbye by letting go of all its bodily functions. Glub help the
poor city slicker that came along to witness the "farmboy" way of
living, esp. if he positioned himself on the wrong end of the cow at
this particular time. *** POOOOOOP *** *** PISSSSSSSS ***
Dutchie
Dutchie
(Pinhead the Cenobite) wrote:
>
>The answer to that one is simple: Get a copy of Photoshop or PaintShop
>Pro and edit your face right out, as well as any tell tale landmarks
>like roadsigns, licence plates, well known landmarks and the like.
Mmmm. Ok. I'll scan some of my fav pics, zap the face part (will look
better, trust me), and submit it to a.b.p.t.
Dutchie
Stephen Wells
> On , Sat, 05 Jun 1999 10:14:36 GMT, "Rev. Syd Midnight"
> <syd...@nls.net>, , , , Re: I Almost Got to Shoot Somebody Tonight,
> <3758F6E6...@nls.net>, wrote:
>
>
> > ObTorture: A personal revenge fantasy of mine... hang the nude victim
> >by their wrists from a chain winch in a tree, and SLOWLY lower them feet
> >first into a brimming septic tank. Ever so slowly, so they have hours to
> >appreciate the feel of 10,000 gallons of YOUR shit slowly enveloping
> >them. I wonder if they'd stay as still as possible, to avoid having to
> >feel grogans and toilet paper sloshing around their legs?
>
> There is an account of this in a book by Herbert Lieberman, "The Climate
> of Hell."
>
Also Iain M. Banks' novel 'Consider Phlebas' opens with the protagonist
being drowned in sewage as a form of ceremonial execution; he's hung up in
chains in the cellar while upstairs a bunch of people have an uproarious
feast with regular latrine breaks so he gets the benefit. Lovely.
--
Stephen Wells
"Mieulx est de ris que de larmes escrire,
Pour ce que rire est le propre de l'homme."
-Alcofribas Nasier.
Geoff Miller
"Rev. Syd Midnight" <syd...@nls.net> writes:
> A healthy sewage pipe smells unlike fresh grogans, much more pleasant
> actually.
I know what you mean. It's a moist, mulchy bouquet that flirts with
wholesomeness.
> Although septic tanks are much, MUCH worse.
I recently became a homeowner for the first time, and being in a
semi-rural area, my house is equipped with a septic tank. I have
to confess that I didn't even know how the things worked until my
real estate agent gave me a much-Xeroxed information sheet. The
technology is actually quite simple, and all the more fascinating
for being so effective.
An interesting side effect of my new septic tank ownership is that
I've evolved a far more personal involvement with my grogans and
their fate. As I pause with my hand on the flushing handle and
admire my latest handiwork floating under a delicate blanket of
toilet tissue like a breakfast sausage peeking out from underneath
a HoJo's flapjack in a lake of cheap maple syrup, I think about it
making its last one-way trip, sliding down the pipes and into the
dark, musty void underneath my front lawn. I wonder how long it
will last in recognizable form before succumbing to the moisture
and bacteria and contributing its all to that indistinguishable
subterranean ooze. Then I steel myself, lift my chin in bold
resignation and focus my unblinking gaze on infinity, and push the
handle.
Geoff
--
"If you're against abortion, then go adopt an interracial mongoloid--
or SHUT THE FUCK UP!"
Dutchie
wrote:
>
>Hell, yes. They had a video clip of one being demonstrated on
>CNN's website a while back; disappointingly, what looked like an
>ambulatory crash test dummy was used. I'd wondered how many
>would-be carjackers had gotten barbecued after the "Blaster" went
>on the market. The guy that invented it deserves a fucking medal.
>Or at least an a.t award.
>
>Dave
>
Well, being an ex-cop/pig/law enforcement officer myself, I felt great
pride when the first Blaster was bought by a very senior police
official based in Johannesburg. I guess that just really boosts
everybodies confidence in our police force.
Personally I won't buy a Blaster. My favourite trick is to wait until
begger/hijacker/thief shoves his arm through my car window. Now, few
people in Johannesburg will even dare to drive with their windows
open, for obvious reasons. But unlike them, I see it as an
oppertunity. When said thief/begger shoves his arm through, I quickly
roll the window up and drive off, with said begger/thief trying his
best to out-run my car. Great fun, esp. when I finally let him go...
Urban legend has it that the cops once stopped a very traumatised old
lady who was driving around with just an arm stuck in the window. The
rest of the coon just couldn't keep up.......
Dutchie
fungus
Scooter wrote:
>
> Friends of mine swear by it. As a child I helped my father dig a couple
> of overflow pits for our septic tank which was prone to overflowing, we
> dug a large 8 foot deep, 12 by 12 foot hole which was filled in with
> pumice rock and covered over with hard plastic sheeting and had a couple
> foot of dirt packed back down. A hole was broached in the tank overflow
> so the soak hole took up the excess.
I'm trying to imagine a septic tank which overflows regulerly and needs
over 1000 cubic feet of overflow capcity.
> Stories also abound of a friend of my father, who flushed his false
> teeth down a septic tank after a drunken vomiting spree
Maybe it was a numerous family of beer swilling louts who lived
off rotting sheep carcasses.
--
<\___/>
/ O O \
\_____/ FTB.
A.Lizard
(Dutchie) wrote:
>On Fri, 04 Jun 1999 10:44:58 GMT, lin...@spamilingus.fuckyou.co.uk
>(LINCARD 1000) wrote:
>
>>
>>Waaahey, A.T now has a resident psycho! A sadistic fuck with no
>>morals and a bitter outlook, good stuff. Now Dutchie, emigrate to the
>>US [if you havent already] and I'm sure the resident US A.Ters could
>>find you some nice WebTV/AOL/@home users to entertain...
>>
>
>Thanks, I'll take that as a compliment. You know, the thing I allways
>wonder about when reading a.t., is exactly how much of the stories are
>made-up crap. Guess we'll never know who the real freaks are without
>proof. Now "virtual" proof just won't do. And the last thing I'll do
>is post a jpg to a.b.p.t. with my face on. After my previous posts
>about police torture, archbishop Tutu and his TRC goons might be
>working overtime trying to finding out exactly who I really am. Now
>unless they threaten to stuff ice up my arse, there is no way they'll
>get me to confess to *anything*. Nada. Zip. So maybe the "proof" lies
>in the basic make-up of the society you originate from. So I guess
>I'll just have to start posting some stories about life in Africa. The
>real shit. Not the PC crap that gets fed to people in 1st world
>countries.
It's a little late, but you might want to seriously consider
posting to this ng via anonymous remailer. Your real identity can
be discovered by any South African authority
For more information,
http://www.well.com/user/abacard/privacy.html
The anonymous remailer page linked from there is what you need,
you might find the rest of the content of interest.
>Hell, I feel compelled to start taking some pictures for a.b.p.t. -
>the real *good* stuff.
>
>So what would you like?
A-D sounds like a good start.
>e) Other black guy - crisply fried after trying to hijack a car fitted
>with the new locally made *Blaster*
>Heard of this device before ?
Yes!!! Send pictures!
A.Lizard
Rev. Syd Midnight
> > with the new locally made *Blaster* Heard of this device before ?
>
> CNN's website a while back; disappointingly, what looked like an
> ambulatory crash test dummy was used. I'd wondered how many
> would-be carjackers had gotten barbecued after the "Blaster" went
> on the market. The guy that invented it deserves a fucking medal.
> Or at least an a.t award.
Best of all, the article said that it was only $600-$700.. dunno if
those are US dollars, if so then I'd call that insanely cheap. I just
hope that it doesn't have any tell-tale nozzles or protuberances,
although people might simply buy little metal pieces that look the same
to bluff out criminals, kinda like the fake car alarm stickers. Of
course, this only works on reasonably intelligent criminals.. now, a
neat row of scorch marks around each car door would be wonderful,
signifying that not only does the driver own The Blaster, but the driver
USES The Blaster and doesn't give a good goddamn who knows about it.
I'd like to hear some follow-up. When the article was written, it
hadn't been used yet. I'm hoping that word will get around... if it
significantly decreases carjacking, it just might make an appearance in
america. No matter the legality of it...
ObBluff: I look kind scary according to some normal people, but not
nearly enough for my personal comfort when traversing certain urban
areas of Cleveland. I used to do that a lot, and had a semi-disguise
worked out. It generally involved a well-worn army jacket, several weeks
of beard growth, and a constant stream of low stream-of-conciousness
muttering. Since street loonies are a very common sight on Cleveland
streets (and
free entertainment), I easily radiated waves of "better stay faaar away
from me" without attracting undue attention (the cops don't hassle the
loonies unless they start running into traffic or chasing people or
something).
It helped that this disguise wasn't much of stretch for me, the only
problem was remembering NOT to mutter out loud and giggle to myself when
I was in a relatively safe area, such as a mall or grocery store.
Too bad it couldn't be marketed in a kit. One filthy-looking army
jacket, some water-soluble dirt substitute, a wig of long, matted,
unkempt hair for those who don't have it already, and a small booklet
entitled "How to Simulate Schizophrenia." Not nearly as tasteless as The
Blaster, but you can use it as a pedestrian.
ObBlaster: The Blaster for pedestrians: A regular, backpack-mounted
flamethrower. I wonder what the legality of a flamethrower is? I bet
it's one of those things that you could find a legal loophole for..
after all, you'd never carry it concealed....
GRay
> I'm trying to imagine a septic tank which overflows regulerly and needs
> over 1000 cubic feet of overflow capcity.
>
>
Kinda depends where you are, so to speak. I have a septic tank
myself.(Well, two, actually) My system is so close to the water table
here, I have a secondary system installed on them called a lift station
and drainfield. It takes the overflow from the tank and pumps it up to a
set of pipes buried two feet below the grass.
The pump on tank #2 failed a few months ago, resulting in fecal effulent
oozing down the tenant's driveway. Oh, fucking joy. Called the plumber,
got a 500 dollar repair estimate. Thanked him and told him I would get
back to him. Meanwhile, tenant arrives home, and we discuss options. He
advises he has a buddy in the plumbing supply biz, and a phonecall
later, we have a pump in hand for a hundred bucks. I offer the lad an
even hundred to install it, and much to my suprise, he agrees.
Watching and smelling the resulting surgury on the shit plumbing was
interesting, to say the least. It is the most un-holy stench
immaginable. The oily film on the blackwater, the vapors that arose...
--
GRay-
Kill the extra "g" for mail.
" When I start calling you a cocksucking midget, I'm close to orgasm.
OK?"
--Ginny
Alan Scott
<syd...@nls.net> wrote:
snip
> The Blaster, but the driver
>USES The Blaster and doesn't give a good goddamn who knows about it.
> I'd like to hear some follow-up. When the article was written, it
>hadn't been used yet. I'm hoping that word will get around... if it
>significantly decreases carjacking, it just might make an appearance in
>america. No matter the legality of it...
>
Imagine the Blaster installed on a SUV.
Soccer mom: "Why did you pull ME over, Officer"
Officer: "Ma'am, you were doing 70 in a 35 zone"
Soccer mom: "Can't you see I am in a hurry? Little Buffy is
late for her recital"
Officer: "Sorry Ma'am, this will only take a few
minutes. May I have your drivers
license, registration and proof of
insurance?
Soccer mom: "Can't you just mail me the ticket?"
Officer: "No Ma'am, I'll need to...
Soccer mom: "Hrrrumff" (click of a switch in the back ground)
WOOF!!
AAAIIIIEEEE!!!!!
Passers by mildly curious about the charred and still smoking pile in
front of an unattended patrol car.
Alan
Alraune
Vyrdolak) writes:
>
>The Israelis used to interrogate ragheads by blindfolding them and
>putting their hands in bags of shit. It sounds a lot more humane than
>some other methods, although I guess you could wind up with an OCD
>wiping habit for the rest of your life.
>
They put their hands and their heads into bags of shit. This had the
psychological effect of burying them in shit without the massive
cleanup required afterwards. I guess that would give you a hell fo an
OCD disorder...hepatitis C.
Alraune
Alraune
Cenobite) writes:
>
>>>Waaahey, A.T now has a resident psycho! A sadistic fuck with no
>>>morals and a bitter outlook, good stuff. Now Dutchie, emigrate to
>>>the US [if you havent already] and I'm sure the resident US A.Ters
>>>could find you some nice WebTV/AOL/@home users to entertain...
>>>
>>
>>Thanks, I'll take that as a compliment. You know, the thing I allways
>>wonder about when reading a.t., is exactly how much of the stories
>>are made-up crap. Guess we'll never know who the real freaks are
>>without proof. Now "virtual" proof just won't do.
>
>employ as a body snatcher is true and accurate. As for proof of what I
>do, Alraune can vouch for me, due to the care package I sent him of
>morgue materials a while ago, some of which can only be had if you
>actually do the work.
>
disgusted by the various morbid and necrophilic items in the kit. I'm
still hoping to get some use out of the wrist ties and undersheet.
Alraune
Pinhead the Cenobite
<syd...@nls.net> wrote:
>Dave Garrett wrote:
>>
>> In article <37594f7b...@news.icon.co.za>,
>> keepyo...@nospam.com says...
>>
>> > e) Other black guy - crisply fried after trying to hijack a car fitted
>> > with the new locally made *Blaster* Heard of this device before ?
[hack n' slash...
> Best of all, the article said that it was only $600-$700.. dunno if
>those are US dollars, if so then I'd call that insanely cheap. I just
>hope that it doesn't have any tell-tale nozzles or protuberances
The Beemer mounted one I saw is very sleek. The nozzles are mounted
behind a pair of sliding port doors. As for tell tale scorchmarks, the
nozzles are angled such that the flames stay well clear of that
expensive pain job...
Of course, there were some "concerned officials" who pointed out that
the Blaster, when deployed, activates on *both* sides of the vehicle,
despite which side of said vehicle the perp is on. Issues of innocent
passers-by on the other side of the deploying vehicle and other such
minimal considerations were raised. Yeah, like anyone is truly
innocent anyway...
Geoff Miller
alr...@ix.netcom.com(Alraune) writes:
> They put their hands and their heads into bags of shit. This had
> the psychological effect of burying them in shit without the massive
> cleanup required afterwards.
I wonder if they used paper cupcake cups like Madge the manicurist did.
"You're soaking in it!"
Victor Balaban
the world? I don't have any to contribute, just perv^h^h^h curious.
Victor
On 8 Jun 1999, Alraune wrote:
> In <37594e2a....@news.mindspring.com> zar...@mindspring.com (The
> Vyrdolak) writes:
> >
> >The Israelis used to interrogate ragheads by blindfolding them and
> >putting their hands in bags of shit. It sounds a lot more humane than
> >some other methods, although I guess you could wind up with an OCD
> >wiping habit for the rest of your life.
> >
> They put their hands and their heads into bags of shit. This had the
> psychological effect of burying them in shit without the massive
t...@rak061.oulu.fi
> Of course, there were some "concerned officials" who pointed out that
> the Blaster, when deployed, activates on *both* sides of the vehicle,
> despite which side of said vehicle the perp is on. Issues of innocent
> passers-by on the other side of the deploying vehicle and other such
> minimal considerations were raised. Yeah, like anyone is truly
> innocent anyway...
That's just poor engineering; it shouldn't take too much trouble to
have side-select switch or something...
crato
> Is it worth starting a thread on torture techniques used around
>the world? I don't have any to contribute, just perv^h^h^h curious.
>
Sakura
Alraune <alr...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>In <37594e2a....@news.mindspring.com> zar...@mindspring.com (The
>Vyrdolak) writes:
>>
>>The Israelis used to interrogate ragheads by blindfolding them and
>>putting their hands in bags of shit. It sounds a lot more humane than
>>some other methods, although I guess you could wind up with an OCD
>>wiping habit for the rest of your life.
>>
>They put their hands and their heads into bags of shit. This had the
>psychological effect of burying them in shit without the massive
>cleanup required afterwards.
Is it the Arabs who always wipe with one hand and never use that hand to
eat with because it's 'unclean'? With a cultural hangup that big, the
tortures probably even more effective.
Speaking of torture, Piers Anthony (of all people) wrote a piece called
"On the Uses of Torture", about a fella that undergoes some serious bodily
rearrangement to get a trade deal with some aliens. Anyway, I remember a
description from that story about a Persian torture called 'the boat
torture'.
Basically, they took a small boat and tied the victim spread-eagled inside
it. Then they start feeding him honey and grapes, and they prick his
eyeballs with needles if he refuses to eat. They let him sit in the hot
sun in a pool of his own waste, with the flies landing on him to eat up
the excess honey and such. I'm assuming they gave the person enough water
to survive, otherwise the torture wouldn't last too long...
J
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