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Stush J Jesensky

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Sep 24, 1991, 12:42:47 AM9/24/91
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Suppose some stupid bitch is dumb enough to let you tie her down naked.
What's some tasteless things you can do to her, assuming there is
very little chance of going to jail reguardless of what happens.

Some thoughts:

1. Shave her cooter (bush)
2. A Magic Yellow Shower
3. Vibrater up the ass

Okay, you get the idea. I'll let you if I use any of your suggestions.

Thanks,
Stush

Murray Chapman

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Sep 24, 1991, 1:31:16 AM9/24/91
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In <2zHo...@cs.psu.edu> jese...@mordor.endor.cs.psu.edu (Stush J Jesensky) writes:

>1. Shave her cooter (bush)
>2. A Magic Yellow Shower
>3. Vibrater up the ass

Tame.... so tame.....

What about shoving a live snake's head up her snatch and its tail up her ass?
What about inserting an eggbeater into her pussy and *using* it?
What about pissing *into* her pussy/asshole/ear/nostril?
What about inserting an inflatable toy into her, and *then* inflating it?
What about putting a gerbil in her cunt? :-)

So much perversion, such little time!

>Thanks,
>Stush

No prob. Let me know if you need a hand...

Murray Chapman
muz...@cs.uq.oz.au

Rich Holland

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Sep 25, 1991, 12:56:39 AM9/25/91
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In article <nnwn=+k...@rpi.edu> ot...@aix.rpi.edu (Eric A Schwartz) writes:
>>Suppose some stupid bitch is dumb enough to let you tie her down naked.
>>What's some tasteless things you can do to her, assuming there is
>>very little chance of going to jail reguardless of what happens.
>>
>How about just leaving her there for a few weeks, then coming
>back and having your fun?

I've got a friend who divorced his wife a few years back. Through it all,
she tried to cling to him, and one day when he went back to the house to
sign some papers, she greeted him at the door in a lacy white teddy, carrying
the 4 neckties they had always liked to use with the bedposts in their
marriage. Well, he figures, "What the hell?" and proceeded to tie her up...
He got her all hot 'n bothered, then got up and left her there....

He said it didn't hurt her -- he saw her at the mall a few days later.
*laugh* I wonder how she got outa that one? Wouldn't THAT be embarassing,
to be found like that? Naked and tied to a bed? Or how about naked and
saran-wrapped to a flag-pole? *evil grin*

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Patrick J. Volk

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Sep 24, 1991, 8:55:02 PM9/24/91
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As a friend told me, you can obtain the best sex when doing the following..

Mount her from behind, and then say:

"You're the ugliest fucking bitch I ever saw in my life"

and hang on for dear life....

Pat

Eric A Schwartz

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Sep 24, 1991, 9:16:04 PM9/24/91
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In article <2zHo...@cs.psu.edu> jese...@mordor.endor.cs.psu.edu (Stush J Jesensky) writes:
>Suppose some stupid bitch is dumb enough to let you tie her down naked.
>What's some tasteless things you can do to her, assuming there is
>very little chance of going to jail reguardless of what happens.
>
How about just leaving her there for a few weeks, then coming
back and having your fun?

ot...@rpi.edu

Ian Payne

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Sep 25, 1991, 10:43:00 AM9/25/91
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>Pat

I prefer to use the phrase "Damn honey, your almost as good as <insert one of
her friends names here>". We've always refered to it as the Rodeo position.

Christer Lindh

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Sep 25, 1991, 4:04:52 PM9/25/91
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> Mount her from behind, and then say:
> "You're the ugliest fucking bitch I ever saw in my life"
>
How about the simple "I've got AIDS, honey"? Hee-haw!
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kamchatka_charlie

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Sep 25, 1991, 7:05:42 PM9/25/91
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Ian Payne writes:
I heard the phrase was. I love you, <a name, not hers>.

Kamchatka Charlie
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The Axe Man

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Sep 25, 1991, 12:54:36 PM9/25/91
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Placing your naked anus directly ON her nose and mouth, see if you
can come up with a good rectal belch. Bonus points if you blow mud.

----Ken


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Stephen King

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Sep 27, 1991, 1:01:20 PM9/27/91
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In article <181...@unix.cis.pitt.edu> pj...@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Patrick J. Volk) writes:
> and hang on for dear life....

Him: Martha, you've got no tits and S U C H a tight snatch ...

Her: John, get off my back.

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Thomas Omar Smith

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Sep 28, 1991, 2:05:26 AM9/28/91
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In article <2zHo...@cs.psu.edu>, jese...@mordor.endor.cs.psu.edu
(Stush J Jesensky) writes:
> Suppose some stupid bitch is dumb enough to let you tie her down naked.
> What's some tasteless things you can do to her, assuming there is
> very little chance of going to jail reguardless of what happens.
>
> Some thoughts:
>
> 1. Shave her cooter (bush)
> 2. A Magic Yellow Shower
> 3. Vibrater up the ass
>
> Okay, you get the idea. I'll let you if I use any of your suggestions.

No No No

You don't shave her, you pluck her, a handful at a time. Then you get a
large bucket of raw sewage and drench her in it. Finally, you get an
extra large vibrator, set it on full power, coat it in coarse sandpaper,
and push it in her. Then go for dinner and chuckle through the entire
meal.

Tom the non hacker

ta...@isuvax.iastate.edu

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Sep 30, 1991, 10:35:33 AM9/30/91
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Can you say "misogyny", boys and girls? I knew you could!

Rich Halbs

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Sep 30, 1991, 10:52:41 PM9/30/91
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ta...@isuvax.iastate.edu writes:

> Can you say "misogyny", boys and girls? I knew you could!

Can you say, hit that cute little 'u' key, unsubscribe to this group, and then
get the fuck back to alt.romane.chat, you miserable cave newt?

<< This space for rent >>

Rich Halbs

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Oct 1, 1991, 12:49:47 AM10/1/91
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ta...@isuvax.iastate.edu writes:

> Can you say "misogyny", boys and girls? I knew you could!

Can you say hit the little "u" key on your keyboard, unsubscribe to this group
and then run back to alt.romance.chat, you miserable cave newt?

<< This space for rent >>

Curtis Yarvin

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Oct 1, 1991, 10:27:28 PM10/1/91
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In article <1991Oct2.0...@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Kevin....@dartmouth.edu (Kevin J. Feury) writes:
>In article <1991Oct1.1...@agate.berkeley.edu>
>shir...@sprite.berkeley.edu (Ken Shirriff) writes:
>
>> You have to wonder about guys who sit around discussing ways to rape,
>> mutilate, and murder random women. They're starting to convince me that
>> the radical feminists are right. I predict in 10 years these guys will
>> either be horribly embarrassed to look back on their posts or will be in jail.
>
>i don't think we need to wonder about people who sit around discussing
>stuff like this...i mean we are all entittled to our own thoughts and
>opinions regardless of how politically incorect they may be.

That's right. And since I'm "entittled" (talk about Freudian slips) to my
own thoughts and opinions regardless of how politically "incorect" (not to
mention legally incorrect) they are, I'll take a moment to state them:

You are a small and ignorant wad of human phlegm. Were there any justice in
the universe, you would long ago have been slowly disemboweled with powered
farm machinery. But the world is a cold and unjust place, and you are
nothing but another gangrenous smegma in a sea of scum. Justice will not be
forthcoming any time soon, not unless I can get my hands on a self-propelled
wheat thresher tonight. So I recommend you ooze over to the nearest
landfill and quietly decompose, preferably with a plastic bag pulled firmly
over your gangrenous and acne-spattered beernose, to spare our fragile
atmosphere any further desecration from your vile breath.

>last i heard, there was still free speech and free thought here in america.
>what's sad is when men start sympathizing with radical feminists

Ooh, can't have that, can we? Free speech is one thing, but when men start
sympathizing with radical (gasp) feminists, that's going a little too far.
I really have to congratulate you. The gall, the daring, the steroid-pumped
boldness of a man, even a 24-karat genuine Dartmouth redneck, who can so
emphatically spew the miniscule contents of his beer-sodden brain in one
sentence and utterly contradict them in the next. Brilliant.

>(read feminazis, just ask rush limbaugh) who spell women 'womyn'

This from the Seventh Incarnation of Noah Webster, Kevin-Sensei, the
Ninth-Degree Black Belt in Spelling himself.

>oh, i get it. you go to berkelely.

Berkelely? The word has a sort of pleasant Scottish-Hawaiian lilt to it. I
must confess, though, that your vast command of geography awes and humbles
me. Even though I go to Berkelely, I have absolutely no idea where it may be
found. Somewhere off the coast of Madagascar, perhaps?

>where god-forbid a woman should be made to feel bad because she's a woman.

There's an interesting aura of backfired sarcasm hovering over that sentence.
I presume, though, that Dartmouth men take pride in their ability to make
women feel bad because they're women. Sort of explains why there are so few
women at Dartmouth, and why the Hanover sheep have such a, well, _hunted_
expression on their fuzzy little faces.

>go crawl back into your hole and let those of us with sick, twisted,
>misanthropic, mysogionistic, evil minds think and express ourselves.

What we have here, boy, is a failure to communicate. This ain't alt.sick.
It ain't alt.twisted, alt.misanthropic, alt."mysogionistic", or even
alt.evil. No, boy, you went ahead and posted to alt.tasteless. And your
post wasn't even tasteless; just stupid.

>perhaps you should loosen up and listen to the song startin' up a posse
>by ANTHRAX...you'd hate it.

No kidding.

>partial ANTHRAX:
>you fuckin' whores (you fuckin' whores)
>that's all you are (cunty, cunty, cunty, cunt)

Uh huh. You know, I never really was a fan of Tipper Gore, but if I had a
chance to vote right now, I'd certainly support any law requiring all
speed-metal albums to be coated with instant contact poison. Think of it
as, ah, _directed_ evolution in action.

c

Andrew Langton

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Oct 2, 1991, 6:15:40 AM10/2/91
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I remember reading in a magazine here in Australia about tortures that were
used on people, usually people accused of homosexuality (both sexes) or
witchcraft. Some of them follow:

Anal (or vaginal) pear: This was a pear-shaped hunk of metal, split into 4
quarters. It was inserted into the anus or vagina of men or women who were
accused of homosexuality. When a handle on the end was turned, the quarters
of the 'pear' began to move out. Ouch.

Another apparently popular one was to hang an offender upside-down, and leave
him/her there for a while, the get a saw, and saw from their crotch downwards
(towards their head). Because they were upside-down, some people didn't die
of blood loss until the saw reached their navel.

There were others, but I can't remeber them.

Andrew.
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John W. Bowden

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Oct 2, 1991, 9:03:26 AM10/2/91
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From article <1991Oct2.0...@cs.brown.edu>, by c...@cs.brown.edu (Curtis Yarvin):

> In article <1991Oct2.0...@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Kevin....@dartmouth.edu (Kevin J. Feury) writes:
>>In article <1991Oct1.1...@agate.berkeley.edu>
>>shir...@sprite.berkeley.edu (Ken Shirriff) writes:
>
> What we have here, boy, is a failure to communicate. This ain't alt.sick.
> It ain't alt.twisted, alt.misanthropic, alt."mysogionistic", or even
> alt.evil. No, boy, you went ahead and posted to alt.tasteless. And your
> post wasn't even tasteless; just stupid.
>

Taste (from Random House Dictionary)
entry #11
"the sense of what is proper, good, or beautiful"

I take the lack of taste, i.e. tastelessness, to be:
"An absence of any sense of what is proper, good, or
beautiful, i.e., a sense for what is improper, evil,
or repulsive."

I think that you have no "taste" in terms of tastelessness.
You think that the height of tastelessness is employing
the words from the set T = {"decompose", "smegma",..., "sheep"}.

True tastelessness should evoke a powerful and visceral reaction
in the audience (like the "pmp" gifs.) Misogyny (like festering
and charred corpses) is in truly bad taste. Is it not?

If we will tolerate the sophomoric flaming of truly tasteless
posts, we, as a group, have no right to consider ourselves
tasteless.

> huh. You know, I never really was a fan of Tipper Gore, but if I had a
> chance to vote right now, I'd certainly support any law requiring all
> speed-metal albums to be coated with instant contact poison. Think of it
> as, ah, _directed_ evolution in action.
>

I think that this person is trying to put up
a smokescreen to keep us from mentioning his
G.G. Allin record collection and fecally autographed
concert shirts.

LET THE TASTELESS TAKE ACTION!
John Bowden
bow...@convex.csd.uwm.edu

Kevin J. Feury

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Oct 1, 1991, 8:29:28 PM10/1/91
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> You have to wonder about guys who sit around discussing ways to rape,
> mutilate, and murder random women. They're starting to convince me that
> the radical feminists are right. I predict in 10 years these guys will
> either be horribly embarrassed to look back on their posts or will be in jail.

i don't think we need to wonder about people who sit around discussing
stuff like this...i mean we are all entittled to our own thoughts and

opinions regardless of how politically incorect they may be. last i


heard, there was still free speech and free thought here in america.

what's sad is when men start sympathizing with radical feminists (read
feminazis, just ask rush limbaugh) who spell women 'womyn'; who think
the term freshman is gender-biased;
and who would teach 'women's studies' classes complete with
masturbation so that women can avoid men altogether (do note that our
college president james o. freedperson (formerly freedman) is a
feminist. ugh again.) that's really sorry, even to consider notions
like that. oh, i get it. you go to berkelely. where all the ethnic
proportions are equal and racial and ethnic quotas are not only
enforced but hailed; where god-forbid a woman should be made to feel
bad because she's a woman. silly me.

perhaps you should loosen up and listen to the song startin' up a posse
by ANTHRAX...you'd hate it.

go crawl back into your hole and let those of us with sick, twisted,


misanthropic, mysogionistic, evil minds think and express ourselves.

disclaimer: 1) spelling errors are due to extreme laziness on my part.
2) who needs capitals anyway?

partial ANTHRAX:
and now i don't do this to shock you,
(that's the end, that's the end)
i don't do this for spite,
you've got the choice, don't buy it DON'T READ IT,
and don't say your opinion's right


you fuckin' whores (you fuckin' whores)
that's all you are (cunty, cunty, cunty, cunt)

you know you can't censor my feelings,
you can't censor my thoughts,
censorship's against, everything america stands for
you fuckin' whores (let us decide)
that's all you are (and this ain't sexist either!)

-kevin.
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those people who tell you not to take chances,
they all are missing on what's life's about,
you only live once so take hold of the chance,
don't end up like others, the same song and dance.
----------------------------------------------------------

Chad Ray McDaniel

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Oct 2, 1991, 10:42:57 AM10/2/91
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>What we have here, boy, is a failure to communicate. This ain't alt.sick.
>It ain't alt.twisted, alt.misanthropic, alt."mysogionistic", or even
>alt.evil. No, boy, you went ahead and posted to alt.tasteless. And your
>post wasn't even tasteless; just stupid.

perhaps this should be alt.tasteless.abuse?

Marcus White

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Oct 2, 1991, 5:34:56 PM10/2/91
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>>>In article <1991Oct1.1...@agate.berkeley.edu>
>>>shir...@sprite.berkeley.edu (Ken Shirriff) writes:
>>
>> What we have here, boy, is a failure to communicate. This ain't alt.sick.
>> It ain't alt.twisted, alt.misanthropic, alt."mysogionistic", or even
>> alt.evil. No, boy, you went ahead and posted to alt.tasteless. And your
>
>LET THE TASTELESS TAKE ACTION!
>John Bowden
>bow...@convex.csd.uwm.edu

Greetings: I hereby propose the creation of a new newsgroup, ALT.TASTELESS.PC,
wherein all VICTIMS OF HUMOR refer to White Male Military Industrialists
teaching Western Civ courses in Corporate Board Rooms without Wheel Chair
Access while being served coffee by Sexy Secretaries. And I think all of these
guys should have names which sound like law enforcement offficers! :-)
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Todd Robinson

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Oct 2, 1991, 7:12:54 PM10/2/91
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In article <1991Oct2.0...@cs.brown.edu> c...@cs.brown.edu (Curtis Yarvin) writes:
>In article <1991Oct2.0...@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Kevin....@dartmouth.edu (Kevin J. Feury) writes:
>>In article <1991Oct1.1...@agate.berkeley.edu>
>>shir...@sprite.berkeley.edu (Ken Shirriff) writes:
>>
>>> You have to wonder about guys who sit around discussing ways to rape,
>>> mutilate, and murder random women. They're starting to convince me that
>>> the radical feminists are right. I predict in 10 years these guys will
>>> either be horribly embarrassed to look back on their posts or will be in jail.
>>
>>i don't think we need to wonder about people who sit around discussing
>>stuff like this...i mean we are all entittled to our own thoughts and
>>opinions regardless of how politically incorect they may be.
>
>That's right. And since I'm "entittled" (talk about Freudian slips) to my
>own thoughts and opinions regardless of how politically "incorect" (not to
>mention legally incorrect) they are, I'll take a moment to state them:

>


>Uh huh. You know, I never really was a fan of Tipper Gore, but if I had a
>chance to vote right now, I'd certainly support any law requiring all
>speed-metal albums to be coated with instant contact poison. Think of it
>as, ah, _directed_ evolution in action.
>


So your the one that voted for G. Bush last term.
I knew it was someone.

Kenneth R Allen

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Oct 2, 1991, 11:13:02 PM10/2/91
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In <1991Oct2.2...@agate.berkeley.edu> t...@cogsci.Berkeley.EDU (Todd Robinson) writes:
>>
>Uh huh. You know, I never really was a fan of Tipper Gore, but if I had a
>chance to vote right now, I'd certainly support any law requiring all
>speed-metal albums to be coated with instant contact poison. Think of it
>as, ah, _directed_ evolution in action.
>
I would support a law requiring this person to be coated with contant poison
not an instant type though, preferably something very slow and painful and
for which there is no antidote.

Kevin J. Feury

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Oct 2, 1991, 8:12:06 PM10/2/91
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i wrote in my first post:

disclaimer: 1) spelling mistakes are due to extreme laziness on my
part.

keep this in mind.

In article <1991Oct2.0...@cs.brown.edu>
c...@cs.brown.edu (Curtis Yarvin) writes:


> That's right. And since I'm "entittled" (talk about Freudian slips) to my

you've missed disclaimer #1 i see
.


> own thoughts and opinions regardless of how politically "incorect" (not to
> mention legally incorrect) they are, I'll take a moment to state them:

there goes that disclaimer again! by the way, please state the laws i
have broken, eh?

if you know what the supreme court is
(can you say, 'i support clarence thomas'??) i can!!!
i support clarence thomas!!!
you'll note that in the discussion written over the flag-burning issue,
the court says distinctly that the making of laws which prohibit speech
which others find demeaning is unconstitutional. read it, you might
find it enlightening! for further info, read the book "illiberal
education" written by dinesh d'souza. even better for you pc types.

> You are a small and ignorant wad of human phlegm. Were there any justice in
> the universe, you would long ago have been slowly disemboweled with powered
> farm machinery. But the world is a cold and unjust place, and you are
> nothing but another gangrenous smegma in a sea of scum. Justice will not be
> forthcoming any time soon, not unless I can get my hands on a self-propelled
> wheat thresher tonight. So I recommend you ooze over to the nearest
> landfill and quietly decompose, preferably with a plastic bag pulled firmly
> over your gangrenous and acne-spattered beernose, to spare our fragile
> atmosphere any further desecration from your vile breath.

why thank you. i am glad you find me so repulsive. however, i would
prefer to be disembowled by something a bit slower and more painful
than power farm machinery...perhaps concentrated acid to open the wound
and then salt tipped forceps to extract my bowels and of course sew up
the wound (if you're really nice) with strips of flesh taken from my
face. no anesthesia of course! of course the world is a cold and unjust
place: that's how it's alway been and that's how it will always be.
it's just one of those things that comes along with being human.
however, to your extreme discontent, i do not feel like dying quite yet
and the gangrene i once had was removed, along with most of the rest of
my morals and ethics. as for the environment, i'm sure there are those
of you out there who would find ways to recycle me (rather then waste
landfill space) and use me in the best possible way (burn me! burn me!
then put my acid-laced ashes in your fields!) yes, i think i'd like
that.

> >last i heard, there was still free speech and free thought here in america.

> >what's sad is when men start sympathizing with radical feminists.


>
> Ooh, can't have that, can we? Free speech is one thing, but when men start
> sympathizing with radical (gasp) feminists, that's going a little too far.
> I really have to congratulate you. The gall, the daring, the steroid-pumped
> boldness of a man, even a 24-karat genuine Dartmouth redneck, who can so
> emphatically spew the miniscule contents of his beer-sodden brain in one
> sentence and utterly contradict them in the next. Brilliant.

of course, in your blatant ignorance, you fail to notice that while i
don't support the idea of men who sympathize with the feminazis, but
neither would i restrict their speech or thought. i just kinda say
'whatever' and get on with my own business. i like your sarcasm though.
really, i do! though i am not steroid-pumped, i may be a redneck. i
would like to hear your definition of this term and then i shall decide
whether or not to agree.
by the way, what have you got against a beer-sodden brain anyway?


> >(read feminazis, just ask rush limbaugh) who spell women 'womyn'
>
> This from the Seventh Incarnation of Noah Webster, Kevin-Sensei, the
> Ninth-Degree Black Belt in Spelling himself.

again referring to my splleing (you caught that mistake, eh?) are you?
honestly, you should read disclaimer #1 from my previous post. course,
non-intellects like yourself are apt to miss things like that, aren't
you. i have this proble. i make mistakes in spelling. i kinda like the
term kevin-sensei though. yeah, i could get used to that...although,
9th degree in mis-spelling actually, lack of typing ability would be
more like it...you see, i have to look at the keyboard when i type, and
if i make a mistake that's too damn bad for me. you get my point and
that's what's important. and by the way, the womEn who use the Y do it
on purpose and look sillyier for doing it on purpose than for making
mistakes like me. that's the point here...oh, i see the tire tracks on
your skull...right over the top, eh?

> >oh, i get it. you go to berkelely.

> Berkelely? The word has a sort of pleasant Scottish-Hawaiian lilt to it. I
> must confess, though, that your vast command of geography awes and humbles
> me. Even though I go to Berkelely, I have absolutely no idea where it may be
> found. Somewhere off the coast of Madagascar, perhaps?

must i repeat myself again you ignoble fool? disclaimer #1. actually, i
thought (again i could be mistaken) that it was out on the left coast.



> >where god-forbid a woman should be made to feel bad because she's a woman.

> There's an interesting aura of backfired sarcasm hovering over that sentence.
> I presume, though, that Dartmouth men take pride in their ability to make
> women feel bad because they're women. Sort of explains why there are so few
> women at Dartmouth, and why the Hanover sheep have such a, well, _hunted_
> expression on their fuzzy little faces.

you miss the point again fool. my point is that in this era of
heightened sensitivity, basic humor is often criticized as being
demeaning etc...lighten up a little and laugh. although sheep don't
talk back! if only they could cook! you see? this is what we call
HUMOR. now of course you're screaming about my misogyny, insensitivity,
etc. and probably on th phone to your senator or something like that.
oh well. get a grip.

for those of you who feel inclined to make humorous jokes about my
background,
i am a white (strike one), male (strike two), conservative,
irish/scottish/lithuanian, left-handed (oooh!!), roman catholic.
i am an independent.
there. food for the masses.


> >go crawl back into your hole and let those of us with sick, twisted,
> >misanthropic, mysogionistic, evil minds think and express ourselves.
>
> What we have here, boy, is a failure to communicate. This ain't alt.sick.
> It ain't alt.twisted, alt.misanthropic, alt."mysogionistic", or even
> alt.evil. No, boy, you went ahead and posted to alt.tasteless. And your
> post wasn't even tasteless; just stupid.

"what we've got here is a failure to communicate.
some men you just can't reach...
so, you get what we had here last week
which is the way he wants it!
well, he gets it.
and i don't like it any more than you men."
-strother martin

looks like you're one of 'em. sorry all you pc police out there. i'm
here to stay. and if there were alt.misanthropic, alt.twisted or
alt.misogyny, i would surely read and post there. i do so for alt.evil!
and do keep in mind that you started this. i only flamed you for your
post. i didn't write the original one.
or can't you figure these things out for yourself?

> >perhaps you should loosen up and listen to the song startin' up a posse
> >by ANTHRAX...you'd hate it.
>
> No kidding.

figures. that's the kind of blinkard (sp?) philistine pig-ignorance
i've come to expect from your kind of non-creative garbage.
(should this be alt.monty-python?)

> >partial ANTHRAX:
> >you fuckin' whores (you fuckin' whores)
> >that's all you are (cunty, cunty, cunty, cunt)
>
> Uh huh. You know, I never really was a fan of Tipper Gore, but if I had a
> chance to vote right now, I'd certainly support any law requiring all
> speed-metal albums to be coated with instant contact poison. Think of it
> as, ah, _directed_ evolution in action.

actually, i'd think of it more as censorship. typical of the
politically correct. 'course you do criticize the entire genre when i
would guess you know very little about it except that it's fast, loud,
often anti-pc...etc.
you would never listen to songs that are anti-drug use (master of
puppets) or anti-homeless (who cares wins) to name a few...yep.
typical. oh well, you are entitled to your own opinion. i just like to
stir things up.

-kevin.

disclaimers: 1) standard 'mis-spellings are due to extreme laziness on
my part.'
2) standard 'i don't use capitals for the same reason..."
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just because i don't say it, don't mean i ain't thinkin' it.
next thing you know, they'll take my thoughts away.

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religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or
abridging the freedom of speech or of the press, or the
right of the people to peaceably assemble, and to petition
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Rick Alisch

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In <1991Oct2.0...@cs.brown.edu> c...@cs.brown.edu (Curtis Yarvin) writes:

>In article <1991Oct2.0...@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Kevin....@dartmouth.edu (Kevin J. Feury) writes:
>>In article <1991Oct1.1...@agate.berkeley.edu>
>>shir...@sprite.berkeley.edu (Ken Shirriff) writes:
>>

[flames, opinions and all that un-TASTELESS stuff deleted}

Why the fuck don't you guys take your fucking argument to
alt.flames or to voice or to snailmail instead of
cluttering up the band width with your worthless shit.

Personally if someone wants to post a tastless [sexist]
opinion here they should be able to. But if there is to be
an argument about it take it elsewhere (unless of course it
involves extreme amounts of blood, guts and gore).

NOTE: This is MY opinion only and according to what I said
above it probably shpildn't go here. Feel free to
be critical, condemn or agree but if you want to argue
send it to me via e-mail at <umal...@ccu.umanitoba.ca>.

Razz

Curtis Yarvin

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Oct 2, 1991, 1:55:44 PM10/2/91
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In article <1991Oct2.1...@uwm.edu> bow...@convex.csd.uwm.edu writes:
>
>Taste (from Random House Dictionary)
> entry #11
> "the sense of what is proper, good, or beautiful"
>
>I take the lack of taste, i.e. tastelessness, to be:
> "An absence of any sense of what is proper, good, or
> beautiful

Were tastelessness nothing but the lack of taste, this group would be full
of Golf-Course Republicans in green plaid pants and yellow ties.

>If we will tolerate the sophomoric flaming of truly tasteless
>posts, we, as a group, have no right to consider ourselves
>tasteless.

Oh, please don't tolerate it. I post a petty, loathsome, untasteless flame
like that to alt.tasteless, and you think I'm asking for TOLERANCE? You
pudding, you. Whip me, lash me, cut me to sweet ribbons with your savage
tongue.

Misogyny (like festering and charred corpses) is in truly bad taste. Is it
>not?

It's in bad taste, all right, but it's not tasteless. Not original enough.
Any rednecked cretin from Dartmouth can display a sense of bad taste, and
I'm sure most do; but it takes some creativity to be genuinely tasteless.
Or access to a mortuary science textbook.

>> huh. You know, I never really was a fan of Tipper Gore, but if I had a
>> chance to vote right now, I'd certainly support any law requiring all
>> speed-metal albums to be coated with instant contact poison. Think of it
>> as, ah, _directed_ evolution in action.
>
>I think that this person is trying to put up
>a smokescreen to keep us from mentioning his
>G.G. Allin record collection and fecally autographed
>concert shirts.

All right, all right, you've got me, I feel the fierce steel clench of your
savage rhetorical jaws closing in my duodenum... guilty, I did it yerhonner,
I confess, pleezdonthurtme.

c

David W. Florek

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Oct 2, 1991, 10:09:41 PM10/2/91
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In article <1991Oct2.0...@cs.brown.edu> c...@cs.brown.edu (Curtis Yarvin) writes:
>>...i mean we are all entittled to our own thoughts and
>>opinions regardless of how politically incorect they may be.
>
>That's right. And since I'm "entittled" (talk about Freudian slips) to my
>own thoughts and opinions regardless of how politically "incorect" (not to
>mention legally incorrect) they are, I'll take a moment to state them:
>
>You are a small and ignorant wad of human phlegm. Were there any justice in
>the universe, you would long ago have been slowly disemboweled with powered
>farm machinery.
> [...]

Wall-eye appreciate your more tastless descriptions of your target, his views,
and your methods of removing him from a tasteless world...

KNOCK OFF THE MISOGYNIST vs. NON_MISOGYNIST vs. ANTI_NON_MISOGYNIST FLAMES!

Incinerate eachother elsewhere. If you can't stand politically-incorrect and
tasteless view-points, don't read alt.tasteless or its relatives. Go get laid
instead. You need it.

----
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sent the views of this institution (read asylum), and probably doesn't even
represent my views. Believe it or else....

John W. Bowden

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Oct 3, 1991, 3:16:58 PM10/3/91
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From article <CLINDH.91S...@henrik.abalon.se>, by cli...@abalon.se (Christer Lindh):

>
>> Mount her from behind, and then say:
>> "You're the ugliest fucking bitch I ever saw in my life"
>>
> How about the simple "I've got AIDS, honey"? Hee-haw!

Even more effective would be, "By the way, sweetheart, I'm Curtis Yarvin."

John Bowden
bow...@convex.csd.uwm.edu

Eric A. Schwartz

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Oct 3, 1991, 6:56:13 PM10/3/91
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In article <14...@macuni.mqcc.mq.oz> alan...@suna.mqcc.mq.oz.au (Andrew Langton) writes:
>
>I remember reading in a magazine here in Australia about tortures that were
>used on people, usually people accused of homosexuality (both sexes) or
>witchcraft. Some of them follow:
>
>Anal (or vaginal) pear: This was a pear-shaped hunk of metal, split into 4
>quarters. It was inserted into the anus or vagina of men or women who were
>accused of homosexuality. When a handle on the end was turned, the quarters
>of the 'pear' began to move out. Ouch.
>
I've seen one of these (not in use, but just a display.) It wasn't
all that small to begin with. Ouch is right.

Mark Brown

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When I was in the sixth grade (in Arkansas by the way) our Social Studies
teacher made a big point of stressing that America was founded on the idea
that anyone should be free to do anything they wanted to, as long as it
didn't interfere with anyone else doing what they wanted to.
Of course, after that I dropped out and joined a nomad rape gang...

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what the government is using today."
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Alexander Vrchoticky

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Oct 4, 1991, 7:58:52 AM10/4/91
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people, whether the posting in question was the expression of (latent or
overt) misogyny is an interesting topic, but clearly beyond the scope
of this newsgroup.

what is well *in* the scope of this newsgroup is to ask whether the quality
of the posting was up to the standards we've come to expect.
and the answer is no. it just didn't cut it.

-alex

--
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grx...@uoft02.utoledo.edu

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John N. Young

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Of course Youngie knows some of these too - what doesn't he know,
well actually I know fuck all about important stuff but I'm good at
the bullshit stuff coz I come out with more shit than a sewage
pump!

One of the best ones I heard was used in Ho Chi Min's death camp in
Vietnam. A hungry rat would be placed in a box without a lid. The
box would then be attatched to a person such that the open end of
the box was against the persons skin (i.e. the body
formed the lid). Food was hung around the persons neck such that it
dangled down the persons back i.e. you have food on one side and a
hungry confined rat on the other thus the rat used to eat it's way
through the body to get to the food! Bad Manners or what!

Other tortures (that one was more a death) involved growing bamboo
shoots through you, growing them up your nails, pulling off your
nails. Also Chinese water torture. You were tied to the ground
below a container of water with a small hole in it. The water
dripped conntinuously on to your forehead for weeks, apparently
this sent people mad, funny coz it didn't affect affect affect
affect me at all!
.

--
From Youngie (JOHN YOUNG) - contraversial j...@sactoh0.sac.ca.us

SORRY - EVERYONE! I'LL TAKE MY POST to alt.tasteless

Brian Hoffman

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Oct 4, 1991, 5:38:49 PM10/4/91
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In article <1991Oct4.1...@sactoh0.sac.ca.us>, j...@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (John N. Young) writes:

|> One of the best ones I heard was used in Ho Chi Min's death camp in
|> Vietnam. A hungry rat would be placed in a box without a lid. The
|> box would then be attatched to a person such that the open end of
|> the box was against the persons skin (i.e. the body
|> formed the lid). Food was hung around the persons neck such that it
|> dangled down the persons back i.e. you have food on one side and a
|> hungry confined rat on the other thus the rat used to eat it's way
|> through the body to get to the food! Bad Manners or what!

Just thought I'd interject on this one...

This is recounted in a short story (the author of which escapes me) in an
anthology of delightful stories. The book is called "Death: It Won't Be From
Old Age" compiled by um.. uh.. I guess I don't remeber that either.
Oh well, the story is called "The Copper Bowl" and it's not a box they use
it's a copper bowl, inverted and placed (with the rat inside) against the
stomach of the killee and belted in place. (BTW the belt was most uncomfortable
too, if I remeber that right.) A hot coal is then placed on the bottom of the
bowl forcing the rat to escape the heat through the body.

P.S. If anybody wants to know the particulars, I am sure I can dig up the book
and post or e-mail them.

Chytil Georg

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Oct 5, 1991, 12:37:39 PM10/5/91
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In article <1991Oct4.1...@sactoh0.sac.ca.us> j...@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (John N. Young) writes:
[...]

>One of the best ones I heard was used in Ho Chi Min's death camp in
>Vietnam. A hungry rat would be placed in a box without a lid. The
>box would then be attatched to a person such that the open end of
[...]
My version : In some of the ancient chinas it was forbidden to sentence someone
to death. So they placed a tube with a rat on his stomach, frightening the rat
with some glowing coals on the other end and voila, had the poor victim
begging for his decapitation after a while ...

medieval sentence for forest fraud (word?) : get some tree, sharpen it where it
was cut at the bottom, and drill it right through the body of the condemned,
starting at the shoulderbone down to his arse. It was vital (pun!) and desired
not to destroy some necessary organs, so this procedure let to some hours
of suffering ...

--
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Arthur Delano

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Oct 5, 1991, 4:57:03 PM10/5/91
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I've heard another forester's way to torture somebody (tho' I suspect that
what this actually did was make for a slow, certain death).

The subject's navel is cut out and nailed to a tree; then he is forced to
run (or crawl) around the tree until his intestines wrap it.

It also made a jolly Christmas Tree decoration.

AjD

Patrick J. Volk

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Oct 5, 1991, 6:11:47 PM10/5/91
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Tie a person's down, paying attention to immobilizing the face...
Take a slow stream of water, and a couple hundred sheets of rice paper (the
thin stuff). Place sheet over face, wet... If person eats through it, add
another sheet. Better that slow drowning (c.f. Creepshow), because if you
let the paper dry, you also get a handy death mask, which you can fill
with plaster and go out for halloween in it... No marks on body, aside from
restraint. If done properly, should look like suffocation, and not drowning.

(this one should go to alt.evil, but not a cross-poster)

Jack Brooks

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Oct 4, 1991, 1:15:25 PM10/4/91
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In article <14...@macuni.mqcc.mq.oz> alan...@suna.mqcc.mq.oz.au (Andrew Langton) writes:
>
>I remember reading in a magazine here in Australia about tortures that were
>used on people, usually people accused of homosexuality (both sexes) or
>witchcraft. Some of them follow:
>
>accused of homosexuality. When a handle on the end was turned, the quarters
>of the 'pear' began to move out. Ouch.
>
>Another apparently popular one was to hang an offender upside-down, and leave
>him/her there for a while, the get a saw, and saw from their crotch downwards
>(towards their head). Because they were upside-down, some people didn't die
>of blood loss until the saw reached their navel.
>
>There were others, but I can't remeber them.
>
My personal favorite was to greece a sharpened pole, slid the sharp end
the ass of the offending person and hoist to a perpendicular position

with the ground and let the fun begin! The pole sliders usually didn'tnd't
die from blood loss but they did drown in their own blood. It is documented
that some lived until they were killed when the pole went through the brain.
I'm sure most would have passed out from the pain, but it would be fun
while it lasted.

The Mad Stork


--
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Internet: jbr...@descartes.waterloo.edu

AYKUT YILMAZ

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this much of bullshit is enough.

now, would anyone please propose some ideas for tasteless sex?

Rick Alisch

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In <91280.130...@TRMETU.BITNET> AYK...@TRMETU.BITNET (AYKUT YILMAZ) writes:

>this much of bullshit is enough.

>now, would anyone please propose some ideas for tasteless sex?

How about straping a small pen style diamond tipped grinder onto
your <insert_pet_name_here> and fucking the fat assed bitch
both anally and vaginally (is that a real word?) until she bleeds
all over the bed and then gag her with the sheet as you cum in her
ears. {8^)

Razz
<umal...@ccu.umanitoba.ca>

Chris Skelsey (1991 BAVE Student)

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I remember visiting Madame Tusaudes (sp?) in London some years ago.
In their chamber of horrors, they had what I think was a Spanish
torturing device. The victim was strapped into a large wooden chair
and a semi-circular bar attached round the neck. A straight piece
of wood joined the ends of the semi-circle, thus enclosing the neck.
The straight piece had a threaded hole in the centre, through which
a large pointed screw could be turned and thus be forced into
the top of the spine. The screw was turned a set number of degrees
per unit time.

I can't remember if this was a torturing or an execution instrument.
Either way, I've never forgotten it - quite a sobering thought when
you realise what humans are capable of.

Chris.
D

stephen cr miller

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Oct 8, 1991, 1:13:44 PM10/8/91
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In article <1991Oct4.1...@sactoh0.sac.ca.us> j...@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (John N. Young) writes:
>
>One of the best ones I heard was used in Ho Chi Min's death camp in
>Vietnam. A hungry rat would be placed in a box without a lid. The
>box would then be attatched to a person such that the open end of
>the box was against the persons skin (i.e. the body
>formed the lid). Food was hung around the persons neck such that it
>dangled down the persons back i.e. you have food on one side and a
>hungry confined rat on the other thus the rat used to eat it's way
>through the body to get to the food! Bad Manners or what!
>

Hmmmm....How did the smell get through to the rat in this scheme?

This of course is Freud's Rat Man's fantasy - but the Rat Man had the
rat chewing a hole through his butt - a much more involved and
delectible fantasy.

=Steve

Charles (Tarzan) Dillon

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I have been there too. I believe the device that you described was called
a Garrot. They did a good job on that display -- I remember it too.
What I regret is not trying harder to get one of the fellow tourists to
take my picture with Charles Manson. They were all to squemish. Sigh.
I sure hope that C.M. is still there the next time I make it back to
London.

--
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Masts climbed (per spreader bar): $1.00
Felines rescued (from trees): negotiable
Deal with intransigent people: N/A

James Smith

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They have a display of medieval tortures at Castle Kryal, near Ballaarat,
which I visited recently. The one I found interesting was called something
like the death of seven parts. The victim was placed in a coffin shaped
box, and six slats of wood were put in, each fitting snuggly to the victim's
body. Rats were put in the section with the victim's feet. The only
thing they had to eat was the victim, and the only way they could get to
the next section was to eat their way through. Sometimes they ate three
or four courses before the victim died.

--
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School of Engineering | of computing is C. C is the last attempt
Newcastle University | of the high priesthood to control the
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--------------------------+ and the Pharisees who did not want the
masses to learn to read and write. -- Jerry Pournelle

Kevin D. Quitt

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Properly done, I'm told, a piano-wire garrot can take the head
completely off the neck.

--
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3D systems, inc. 26081 Avenue Hall Valencia, CA 91355
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Stephen King

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Oct 10, 1991, 11:17:28 AM10/10/91
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In article <1991Oct08....@ecst.csuchico.edu> cdi...@ecst.csuchico.edu (Charles (Tarzan) Dillon) writes:
>In article <1991Oct8.0...@syd.dms.CSIRO.AU> chr...@syd.dms.CSIRO.AU (Chris Skelsey (1991 BAVE Student)) writes:
>>The straight piece had a threaded hole in the centre, through which
>>a large pointed screw could be turned and thus be forced into
>>the top of the spine. The screw was turned a set number of degrees
>
>I believe the device that you described was called a Garrot.

Garrot is the french work for tourniquet (which is, in turn, the french
word for turnstile, or revolving stand). Traditionally, a garrot is a
length of wire, with optional handles on each end, used to strangle people.
It is especially effective as the wire cuts into a person's neck and cannot
be grabbed and withdrawn by the victim, as a rope might. I suppose that the
victim may have his/her throat slit at the same time, but either way the
garrot is a silent and effective method of termination. Given the alternate
meaning for tourniquet, it is possible that the 'spine screw' described has
the same name.

--
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Patrick J. Volk

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Tasteless sex? Go hogging... Even more tasteless? Go homo-hogging...

Not tasteless enough? Go necro-homo-hogging... Dig up the 60-year-old
300 pound father of three, and pound his brains out... No warming him up
first, that's cheating....

Of course, if you're still not sure... Try beastiality... Don't think
about killing the animal in the heigh of passion, you might never go back..
Hmm... I still you you shaking your head...

Buy four of five garbage can of that Slime (electric green non-toxic stuff)
pour it into one of the cans, and work on that for a little bit... The best
part is, that little green bits get stuck in your hair, and you have some
interesting explaining to do if someone catches you in the shower with dried
green bits of sludge... Tell them politely that their mother ought to at least
trim that thing once a decade! Then tell them to thank her for the 50...

Pat V....

io...@vax5.cit.cornell.edu

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Oct 11, 1991, 1:47:20 PM10/11/91
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Here's an ancient South East Asian version of impalation which my
Malaysian Language teacher told my class in high school:

You tie the person on a pole, positioned such that s/he has
a live bamboo plant aimed appropriately. The bamboo plant
has it's top sharpened, of course. Then, you feed the person,
and generally try to keep him/her alive, while the bamboo
grows .....

--

Dave Chin Class of '92, Cornell U.
io...@vax5.cit.cornell.edu } Opinions expressed are mine,
io...@cornella.cit.cornell.edu } and mine alone.
dc...@esther.msc.cornell.edu }
dc...@helios.tn.cornell.edu } Kelmarin di Kota Melaka ...

j...@vax5.cit.cornell.edu

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Oct 14, 1991, 11:39:26 PM10/14/91
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There is a rather nasty way of executing a criminal in Korea. I can't
quite translate this into English, but it comes out to something like death by
pricking. Yup. You poke a criminal with a needle until he/she dies. And it
is not one of those nasty long, deep poke. It's more like short, annoying
pokes you get when you are sewing. Talk about long, drawn-out, annoying death.

--

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(internet)

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"Nietsche is dead" - God

hil...@hydra.unm.edu

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Oct 15, 1991, 2:31:29 AM10/15/91
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In article <1991Oct14....@vax5.cit.cornell.edu> j...@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:
>
> There is a rather nasty way of executing a criminal in Korea. I can't
>quite translate this into English, but it comes out to something like death by
>pricking. Yup. You poke a criminal with a needle until he/she dies. And it
>is not one of those nasty long, deep poke. It's more like short, annoying
>pokes you get when you are sewing. Talk about long, drawn-out, annoying death.

There's something like this in Kafka's short story, "In the penal colony" in
which this machine with lots o' sharp needles is used to write out, in a very
nice script, what exactly their crime was, because it's not explained at the
trial. The story's not tooooo graphic, but it does have some tasty bits:

"So it keeps on writing deeper and deeper for the whole twelve hours. The first
six hours the condemned man stays alive almost as before, he suffers only pain.
After two hours the felt gag is taken away, for he has no longer strength to
scream."
--
Dan Hillman If all of the poetry and nonsense that have been
hil...@hydra.unm.edu discharged upon the bland scenery of this region
University of New Mexico were collected in a book, it would make a most
Land of Fucking Enchantment valuable volume to burn. - Samuel Clemens

George Vokalek

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Oct 15, 1991, 3:13:50 AM10/15/91
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In <1991Oct14....@vax5.cit.cornell.edu> j...@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:


> There is a rather nasty way of executing a criminal in Korea. I can't
>quite translate this into English, but it comes out to something like death by
>pricking. Yup. You poke a criminal with a needle until he/she dies. And it
>is not one of those nasty long, deep poke. It's more like short, annoying
>pokes you get when you are sewing. Talk about long, drawn-out, annoying death.

The catalog for the AMOK publishing company in the US includes a photo
which is apparently in George Batailles book called the 'Tears of Eros'.

The photo is from the year 1908 or so, and shows a chinese prisoner
being executed using the technique called 'Death of a thousand cuts'.

In the photo, the executioners had just cut flesh from the mans chest
and were beginning work on his legs.

The execution method was substituted for burning at the stake by
the Emperor, who considered burning to be too cruel.

Just goes to show,


> T. H. Brian Chung
> jfe@cornella (bitnet)
> in%"j...@vax5.cit.cornell.edu"
> (internet)

..G..

Brian Scearce

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gvok...@augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.AU (George Vokalek) writes:
>The photo is from the year 1908 or so, and shows a chinese prisoner
>being executed using the technique called 'Death of a thousand cuts'.

Mr. Vokalek doesn't describe the technique, but I suspect that it
is similar to another execution method I read about in George
Macdonald Fraser's _Flashman and the Dragon_. The method is called
"the wire jacket", and it consists of wrapping the prisoner tightly
in, well, chicken wire basically, and razoring off the little knobs
of flesh that poke up through the holes. According to one of the
characters in the book, a strong subject and a skillful executioner
can last a long time.

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In article <37...@shamash.cdc.com> b...@u02.svl.cdc.com (Brian Scearce) writes:
>gvok...@augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.AU (George Vokalek) writes:
>>The photo is from the year 1908 or so, and shows a chinese prisoner
>>being executed using the technique called 'Death of a thousand cuts'.
>
>Mr. Vokalek doesn't describe the technique, but I suspect that it
>is similar to another execution method I read about in George
>Macdonald Fraser's _Flashman and the Dragon_. The method is called
>"the wire jacket", and it consists of wrapping the prisoner tightly
>in, well, chicken wire basically, and razoring off the little knobs
>of flesh that poke up through the holes. According to one of the
>characters in the book, a strong subject and a skillful executioner
>can last a long time.

I'm not sure about this one, either. I've heard "Death of a thousand cuts"
actually translates to "Death by Slicing" but I don't know more detail.

Crunchy Frog

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Oct 15, 1991, 6:09:13 PM10/15/91
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In article <37...@shamash.cdc.com> b...@u02.svl.cdc.com (Brian Scearce) writes:
>gvok...@augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.AU (George Vokalek) writes:
>>The photo is from the year 1908 or so, and shows a chinese prisoner
>>being executed using the technique called 'Death of a thousand cuts'.
>
>Mr. Vokalek doesn't describe the technique, but I suspect that it
>is similar to another execution method I read about in George
>Macdonald Fraser's _Flashman and the Dragon_. The method is called
>"the wire jacket", and it consists of wrapping the prisoner tightly
>in, well, chicken wire basically, and razoring off the little knobs
>of flesh that poke up through the holes. According to one of the
>characters in the book, a strong subject and a skillful executioner
>can last a long time.
>

And then there is the death of a thousand orgasms. With a strong subject
and a skillful 'executioner' it can last a long time...

... if you are lucky.

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In article <1991Oct15.0...@augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.AU>, gvok...@augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.AU (George Vokalek) writes:
> The catalog for the AMOK publishing company in the US includes a photo
> which is apparently in George Batailles book called the 'Tears of Eros'.
>
> The photo is from the year 1908 or so, and shows a chinese prisoner
> being executed using the technique called 'Death of a thousand cuts'.
>
> In the photo, the executioners had just cut flesh from the mans chest
> and were beginning work on his legs.
>
> The execution method was substituted for burning at the stake by
> the Emperor, who considered burning to be too cruel.

I remember a description of something like this in a sci-fi book
I read some years back. I think it was Gray Matters by some guy
called William (?) Hjortsberg (sp?). It was all about how most of
the human race had ended up as brains in bottles trying to reach
ethical nirvana or something.

Anyway, one of the characters has this dream where he is
subjected to something like what was described above - the first
thing they removed was his eyelids, so that he could watch the
whole thing in the mirror hung above him. And of course, the
constant sharp pain kept him from falling asleep, but was never
enough to make him pass out. The whole process took quite a long
time, and I think it eventually got to the point where there was
nothing left but a skeleton, some vital organs, and a lot of
blood vessels. The last thing they did was whip the top of his
head off and wheel his brain over to the Emperor (or whatever he
was) to sample...

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Mika R Iisakkila

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gvok...@augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.AU (George Vokalek) writes:

>The photo is from the year 1908 or so, and shows a chinese prisoner
>being executed using the technique called 'Death of a thousand cuts'.

I remember reading of this nice method of execution in some book by
Jules Verne (can't remember the title).

The procedure was to have the names of a thousand different
mutilations written down on pieces of paper, which were then drawn
randomly out of a basket or something. You can probably guess the
rest. If the victim was lucky, the removal of the heart would be among
the first few cuts...

saun...@luther.che.wisc.edu

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Oct 18, 1991, 2:12:19 PM10/18/91
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In article <62...@masscomp.westford.ccur.com> saw...@hubble.westford.ccur.com (George Sawyer (Sales Support) WEST - (508)392-2855) writes:
>>
>>And then there is the death of a thousand orgasms. With a strong subject
>>and a skillful 'executioner' it can last a long time...
>>
>>... if you are lucky.
>>
>In feudal China, there WAS a practice called sexual vampirism in which
>women would "fuck men" to death. The basic concept is that men's sexual
>energy is released during ejaculation, and that a skilled partner
>can take [steal] that energy.
>
>There are exercises for women to strengthen their voluntary control
>over the different muscle groups in the vagina. So what you do is
>you lure a young man (full of sex energy) into penetrating you, then
>you tighten the outermost vaginal muscle so tightly that the man
>cannot withdraw. You then use the 3 muscle groups inside the vagina
>to massage the penis to erection & ejaculation. Repeat until the
>victim is dead. Supposedly this will draw all of the moisture out
>of the male body.

Nooooooo. I have found that after a few ejaculations, the well simply
dries up. Granted the guy may die from exhaustion or pain (dry spurting is
as bad as dry heaving), but not from liquid depletion.

--

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Beat Andreas Mueller

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Oct 18, 1991, 4:32:56 AM10/18/91
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another form of death penality is to keep the victim tied up and
standing. then let waterdrops fall on his/her head - and the victim
can't move the head away. as far as i remember this torture drives
you mad until you die at last.
it was used in china but i think it's possible that it was used in
other parts of our world as well.

] zosh [

Adam Justin Thornton

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Oct 18, 1991, 3:49:25 PM10/18/91
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Sexual vampirism?
What a way to go....

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George Sawyer (Sales Support) WEST - (508)392-2855

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>
>And then there is the death of a thousand orgasms. With a strong subject
>and a skillful 'executioner' it can last a long time...
>
>... if you are lucky.
>
In feudal China, there WAS a practice called sexual vampirism in which
women would "fuck men" to death. The basic concept is that men's sexual
energy is released during ejaculation, and that a skilled partner
can take [steal] that energy.

There are exercises for women to strengthen their voluntary control
over the different muscle groups in the vagina. So what you do is
you lure a young man (full of sex energy) into penetrating you, then
you tighten the outermost vaginal muscle so tightly that the man
cannot withdraw. You then use the 3 muscle groups inside the vagina
to massage the penis to erection & ejaculation. Repeat until the
victim is dead. Supposedly this will draw all of the moisture out
of the male body.


The muscle exercises were taught to the concubines of the emperors of
china, who were able to pleasure the emperor without an exertion on
his part. They could even delay his ejaculation with strong back
pressure at the appropriate time.

Some of the emperors of china used to have non-ejaculatory sex with
dozens of young concubines each night to take their energy to
prolong his life. [i.e. men did this sleazy shit too]

Vampirism is a perversion of legitimate Taoist techniques, and was
used as an excuse to persecute anyone teaching the
sexual techniques.


The techniques do exist today, although the death part of the vampirism
is probably an exaggeration.

RichHalbs

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Oct 18, 1991, 12:30:58 PM10/18/91
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If I'm not mistaken, one of the more interesting side-effects to the Chinese
water torture is that water, being a most perfect solvent, will, in time,
bore a hole through the victim's head in much the same way that it smoothes
pebbles in a stream.
No doubt the knowledge that this is taking place contributes to a large part
of the madness.

Kevin D. Quitt

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Oct 18, 1991, 4:33:46 PM10/18/91
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In article <62...@masscomp.westford.ccur.com> saw...@hubble.westford.ccur.com (George Sawyer (Sales Support) WEST - (508)392-2855) writes:
>
>There are exercises for women to strengthen their voluntary control
>over the different muscle groups in the vagina. So what you do is
>you lure a young man (full of sex energy) into penetrating you, then
>you tighten the outermost vaginal muscle so tightly that the man
>cannot withdraw.

It'll never happen. It doesn't matter how tight the grip is, it'll
always come out.

That's Fat SIR to you!!

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Oct 18, 1991, 11:37:34 PM10/18/91
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Ah yes!

Drown in a vat of pussy.

Death, where is thy sting?

Walter Alden Tackett

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In article <1991Oct2.0...@cs.brown.edu> c...@cs.brown.edu (Curtis Yarvin) writes:
>In article <1991Oct2.0...@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Kevin....@dartmouth.edu (Kevin J. Feury) writes:
>>In article <1991Oct1.1...@agate.berkeley.edu>
>>shir...@sprite.berkeley.edu (Ken Shirriff) writes:
>>
>>> You have to wonder about guys who sit around discussing ways to rape...

...well yeah, that's true. You have to wonder about all *people* who would be
motivated to discuss that, as well as industrial and military maimings/deaths,
medical aberrances, etc. Why were *you* reading this topic? Just kinda
lurking to insure that political correctness was not being violated?

>You are a small and ignorant wad of human phlegm. Were there any justice in
>the universe, you would long ago have been slowly disemboweled with powered
>farm machinery. But the world is a cold and unjust place, and you are
>nothing but another gangrenous smegma in a sea of scum. Justice will not be
> (.... it continues on like this for some time .......)

...a mature and well-phrased statement of your point. It's good to see that
unlike the people you flame, you are a rational being and do not harbor sick
fantasies of your own and that you face all others with caring and under-
standing. Keep up the good work. And next time, post shit like this to
alt.flame, where it belongs (if anywhere).

>...it goes on interminably...
>Ooh, can't have that (free speech -ed.), can we? Free speech is one thing,
>but when men start sympathizing with radical (gasp) feminists, that's going a
>little too far (this is supposed to be scathing sarcasm -ed.).

There are actually lots of aspects of radical feminism (or radical anything)
which fall into the tasteless category. No one on this topic is stopping you
from discussing tasteless sex acts which you (or someone who is sexually
oriented towards men, if you are not) would perform on a man given that he was
tied up. Most readers would like hearing them, probably. No-one here wants
to hear you spout off about how special you are because you are oh-so sophomor-
ically clever and politically correct.

>>oh, i get it. you go to berkelely.

..well, the Dartmouth guy *was* making kind of a low blow here by trying to
capitalize on Berekeley's reputation as radical haven. Quite frankly, you
don't help that image much.

>What we have here, boy, is a failure to communicate. This ain't alt.sick.
>It ain't alt.twisted, alt.misanthropic, alt."mysogionistic", or even
>alt.evil

...nor is it alt.flames

>post wasn't even tasteless; just stupid.

>Uh huh. You know, I never really was a fan of Tipper Gore, but if I had a
>chance to vote right now, I'd certainly support any law requiring all
>speed-metal albums to be coated with instant contact poison. Think of it

Well, gosh! You know, Curtis, Rap is at least as misogynistic as heavy metal
music. If you feel this way in the name of political correctness and womens
rights, then would you also say that you would like to kill all listeners of
rap? Or is it less PC to commit genocide against black teenagers than white
ones? Careful on this one!

I'll be in Berkely all next week- if you want, maybe you can wind up in
alt.tasteless.pictures! oooxxx!
-walt

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Arthur Delano

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Oct 22, 1991, 10:50:28 AM10/22/91
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_____________________________________________

I remember seeing an interesting way of torturing someone to death in an arm
y
training film. In the film, three guys had a black man tied down to a stand, so
that
he was hanging of the floor, and they then proceeded to skin the man alive.
They
started
from the guys palm, worked their way up his arm, then up his legs, to his
stomac
h and chest
and finishing of with his scalp and his face.
_____________________________________________

Whose army was that, and what the hell were they training for?!

AjD
a...@itl.itd.umich.edu

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Dont Try This At Home

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Most people, like scorpions, sting with their tails...

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