5 stupid religious fucktards dead in Virginia ... Yeehah may more follow suit
ur_droll
7/3/2007, 8:16 a.m. CDT
The Associated Press
RICHMOND, Va. (AP) - Deadly methane gas emanating from a dairy farm's
manure pit killed five people, including four members of a Mennonite
family, authorities said.
Emergency workers speculate each of the victims climbed into the pit
in a frantic attempt to rescue the others. "It was a domino effect
with one person going in, the second person going after them," Sheriff
Don Farley said.
The accident began Monday evening when Scott Showalter tried to
transfer manure from one small pit to a larger one, measuring 20 feet
by 20 feet and 8 feet deep.
At some point, the pipe that was transferring the manure became
clogged, and Scott Showalter climbed in the pit to fix the blockage,
Farley said. He apparently was overcome by methane gas, which is a
byproduct of the liquefied manure, Farley said.
Emergency workers believe Stoltzfus climbed into the pit in an attempt
to rescue Showalter. When the two men didn't come out, Phyillis
Showalter and then the couple's two daughters apparently made their
way in, all succumbing to the deadly gas.
Richard Catto
why didn't any of them throw a lighted match in first?
ur_droll
Perhaps we could suggest a candle light vigil to farewell them
GP
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is that what you do before you take a "mud" bath in your local cess
pool fag boy?
A funeral service is being held for a woman who has just passed away.
At the end of the service the pall bearers are carrying the casket
out
when they accidentally bump into a wall, jarring the casket. They
hear a
faint moan. They open the casket and find that the woman is actually
alive.
She lived for ten more years, and then dies peacefully. They hold
another
ceremony in the same place, and at the end of the ceremony the pall
bearers are again carrying out the casket. As they are walking, the
husband cries out, "Watch the f*cking wall!""
GP
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you gonna use the candle you have up your ass kiwi?
A little girl is in line to see Santa. When it's her turn, she climbs
up
on Santa's lap. Santa asks, "What would you like Santa to bring you
for
Christmas?" The little girl replies, "I want a Barbie and Action
Man."
Santa looks at the little girl for a moment and says, "I thought
Barbie
comes with Ken." "No," said the little girl. "She comes with Action
Man,
she fakes it with Ken."
Paul Hyett
>ur_droll wrote:
>> 5 dead in Virginia farming accident
>> 7/3/2007, 8:16 a.m. CDT
>> The Associated Press
>>
>> RICHMOND, Va. (AP) - Deadly methane gas emanating from a dairy farm's
>> manure pit killed five people, including four members of a Mennonite
>> family, authorities said.
>>
>> Emergency workers speculate each of the victims climbed into the pit
>> in a frantic attempt to rescue the others. "It was a domino effect
>> with one person going in, the second person going after them," Sheriff
>> Don Farley said.
A thought occurs - since methane is lighter than air, how could it have
stayed in a pit?
--
Paul 'Charts Fan' Hyett
ur_droll
Why?... are you having trouble seeing in there
NjoY
What comes after 69?
A bloody good mouthwash.
"ur_droll" <Ch...@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
news:1183527127....@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
Mike Painter
Would you all have the same reaction had these been fire fighters or had not
the religion been mentioned? (NO, the do not always put on SCBA when they
see a couple fellow firefighters dropping in an empty field)
How about a family dying because a child wandered into a depression filled
with CO2 and each one dying as they bent to pick the kid up.
What if it had been two of our paramedics that almost died a few yeas ago
when they went in to check on a family, not knowing the house was filled
with CO?
You guys sound like christians.
ur_droll
Yup... stupid ppl don't deserve to live
> You guys sound like christians.
You sound like a cry baby
ur_droll
> Did i miss the joke??
>
> What comes after 69?
>
>
That reminds me of a funny story
Parsons
So why are you alive?
>
>> You guys sound like christians.
>
> You sound like a cry baby
When are you going to grow up?
>
>
ur_droll
> "ur_droll" <C...@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
You keep blowing my cock and we'll see
Richard Catto
igniting the methane would have made the pit safe to enter.
the people who had been overcome and collapsed may have sustained only
minor burns, since the flames would have been mostly above them.
they were going to die anyway if they were not extracted quickly.
since no breathing apparatus was available, the only option left was
to ignite the methane and hope that the people in the pit did not get
burnt beyond recognition.
these people had no plan of attack, they just panicked.
how was a woman going to retrieve two men at the bottom of a pit?
she didn't even stop to think what would happen to her two daughters
if she died trying to save her husband.
if you have a family and your spouse gets into serious difficulties,
you need to think very carefully before attempting a risky rescue
yourself.
ur_droll
I knew an old couple who had a underwater light short circuit in their
pool. He got fried when he went for a swim. She got fried when she
jumped in to save him. The two sons got about a $million each for
being smart enough to stick around and collect the inheritance.
Richard Catto
> > these people had no plan of attack, they just panicked.
> > how was a woman going to retrieve two men at the bottom of a pit?
> > she didn't even stop to think what would happen to her two daughters
> > if she died trying to save her husband.
> > if you have a family and your spouse gets into serious difficulties,
> > you need to think very carefully before attempting a risky rescue
> > yourself.
> I knew an old couple who had a underwater light short circuit in their
> pool. He got fried when he went for a swim. She got fried when she
> jumped in to save him. The two sons got about a $million each for
> being smart enough to stick around and collect the inheritance.
if your spouse is going to conduct himself in an electrifying manner,
you need to insulate yourself from him and not go charging ahead if
you desire a positive outcome.
Mike Painter
>
> igniting the methane would have made the pit safe to enter.
>
> the people who had been overcome and collapsed may have sustained only
> minor burns, since the flames would have been mostly above them.
Ever inhaled flaming gas?
You only do it once.
>
> they were going to die anyway if they were not extracted quickly.
> since no breathing apparatus was available, the only option left was
> to ignite the methane and hope that the people in the pit did not get
> burnt beyond recognition.
>
> these people had no plan of attack, they just panicked.
>
> how was a woman going to retrieve two men at the bottom of a pit?
>
> she didn't even stop to think what would happen to her two daughters
> if she died trying to save her husband.
>
> if you have a family and your spouse gets into serious difficulties,
> you need to think very carefully before attempting a risky rescue
> yourself.
That is what has been taught to EMS for a good many years now but it still
fails. People die trying to save others.
It has been my experience that when a family member in is serious trouble,
*very*, few people think very carefully before attempting a rescue.
V
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You will not find peace with such thoughts my friend.
"A mans mind may be likened to a garden which may be intelligently
cultivated or allowed to run wild; but whether cultivated or
neglected, it must and will bring forth. If no useful seeds are put
into it, then an abundance of useless 'weed seeds' will fall therein
and will continue to produce their kind." ~ James Allen
French psychotherapist Emile Coue (1857 - 1926) came up with this
famous saying; "Every day, in every way, I am getting better and
better." He wrote "If our unconscious is the source of many of our
evils - it can also bring the cure. You have in yourself this
instrument of your cure." Sometimes this simple technique of Coue's,
worked miracles in cases of health improvement for persons using this
daily suggestion.
We are all born with a clean and sterile "garden" of a mind.
Everything we plant in this garden is from our own efforts and
thoughts. And as the good book said - "as yea sow - so yea reap." You
many times hear a phrase thrown around in 12 step circles, "Stinkin
Thinkin" which is another way of describing negative self talk. I
often hear addicts beating themselves up with their own mouth
continually programming themselves with many of these comments:
"I am no good"
"I'm a failure"
"Diets don't work for me"
"I can't lose weight"
"What's the use in trying"
"With my luck only bad will come out of it"
"I'm too old to try"
"I can't stand the snow"
"I can't remember anything - my brain is sh*t"
"What do you expect - I'm just a drunk?"
"I'm too fat to do it"
"I'm in a daze all the time"
"My marriage is on the rocks"
"I'm a mess"
"My house is a mess"
"I am always late"
"I'm sickly"
"There is something wrong with me"
"I'm a screw-up"
"I feel like I'm dying"
"What a pain in the ass"
"I'm always bouncing checks"
"I can't help myself"
"I always get sick this time of year"
"I always pick out an abuser"
"I'm always upset"
"I'm depressed"
"I'm stubborn"
"I feel like sh*t"
"Everything I touch turns to crap"
"I can't remember anything"
"I shop till I drop"
"I can't do any thing right"
"I'm no good with directions"
"I always hurt the one I love"
"I can't read a map"
"I can't cook anything - I burn water"
"No one likes me"
"I'm no good with names"
"I never win anything"
"I'm not very smart"
'I can't figure it out"
"It's my cross I have to bear"
"I'm not too sharp"
"I'm no good with computers"
"I'm always late with the rent"
"I can't balance my checkbook"
"I'm unlucky"
"I can never get any sleep"
"Whenever it rains I feel blue"
"I wish I was dead"
"I can't save a penny"
"I'm no good with numbers"
"I know it is good for me...but I still wont do it"
"This is a pain in the neck"
"My back is killing me"
"I can never figure women / men out"
"It's my Karma"
"My head is splitting"
"Everything I eat turns to fat"
"I don't like fruit or vegetables"
"Why doesn't anything ever go right for me?"
"I'm so stressed out"
"I'm always hungry"
'Why does (it) always happen to me?"
"I always end up offending people"
"My boss always ends up hating me"
"I'm no good at sports"
"I'm a klutz'
"I hate to exercise"
"I'm always making the wrong choices"
...and on and on.
Notice anything repetitive about these statements? Many are in
absolute terms that specify always, everything, every time, never.
While many of these statements can apply to some of us one time or
another, few of them are hard and fast 100% rules in our lives. Yet,
we are working overtime to make sure they do become us 100% at every
turn. This type of thinking just programs our minds and our bodies to
accomplish these tasks as we ask our subconscious to do these things.
Sometimes this programing starts passively by another's offhand
comment to us or even when we are kids and our parents or other adults
tell us such things. Then little by little they creep into our mind
and take hold.
Now we don't have to be perfect with changing our talk or our life,
but we can be aware of how we talk to ourselves and make an effort to
change our thoughts so they can work for us instead of against us. To
develop a desire to change, we must first recognize there is a problem
or sickness in us. Recognition or awareness is the fist step leading
to the desire to change. I go into this in more detail in an earlier
post entitled "The 3D's of Recovery ~ Desire, Determination and
Diligence"
All of the above examples are negative auto suggestions or negative
self talk that can be overcome - we have it in our power to change
these ideas - maybe not perfectly, but we can change them in a
positive direction. Philosopher David Hume defined a miracle as "the
suspension of natural law." While the subconscious can do many amazing
things, if we ask too many unrealistic "miracles" of it on a
continuous and daily basis that violate physics or natural law we can
get disappointed when it does not come through.
A common complaint with persons seeking spirituality is that they ask
God / HP for a daily suspension of natural law so they can keep
violating the 3 branches of laws that govern us and get disgruntled
when God / HP does not answer the requests. Entitlement is something
we all can suffer from, it stems form our ego. So, they get their ego
hurt and give up spiritual ways with a sigh, "What's the use." The
"use" or "answer to their prayers" is in themselves with how they live
and think. We should not forget that life on earth was never promised
to be heaven on earth and as we live - we die and as we die - we
suffer. This is the suffering of impermanence the Buddhists talk about
in the 4 Noble Truths.
An older Christian lady talked to me about "her cross" she had to
bear. She was starting to suffer from old age at 79 and felt this was
a "cross" for her from God. As I spoke with her I could see she had a
very low level of acceptance with many areas of living. She also told
me about a water heater that went out after 10 years of service and
how that upset her so much. I thought to myself well, I'd be ever so
grateful to get 10 years out of mine, as our heater went out with just
6 years of service. At the time, I was grateful to get 6 years of
service since I had talked with a fellow that had a water heater go
out in 4 years. She had no insight or acceptance into the impermanence
of things. Everything that lives gets old and suffers more or less the
same way. It is natural law and without this law nothing could grow
and we would not know life as we know it on our planet. Our babies
would not grow, there would be no rain, sun or nighttime and we could
not even taste foods or even digest it.
This lady was not singled out to "bear a cross" to suffer from old age
at 79 years of age. In fact, from my view she lived a life of little
suffering with health issues up to that point, since she lived a life
that was unhealthy, yet did not suffer much from this anti - health
lifestyle and was rewarded with moderately good health. No, her
problem were not due to God giving her a cross to bear - it was simply
due to natural law, the same law that applies to us all. And, if
anything, she had much good fortune with her life, yet had a hard time
seeing it and being appreciative and grateful for it. All problems are
creations of the mind and all that is created in the mind can also be
removed. It seems that many of us get stuck with looking for hope of
change someplace else other than within us. All change is ultimately
internal in nature, but we have hopes that someone else will do it for
us, rather than we doing it ourselves. Many religious practitioners
feel that any good change in their lives will come from the outside --
as a gift from God / gods without much effort from ones own self to
change.
Unrealistic use of the subconscious? If we give ourselves positive
self talk or suggestions that we are thin when we are fat and the
reason that we are fat is that we are eating 6000 calories a day, our
mind can only do so much with countering natural law. So, we should
not say that positive self talk does not work if we are constantly
working against it by violating the laws that govern us all. If we are
working a program of recovery and pointed in the right direction of
weight loss and food addiction recovery then giving such auto
suggestions to ourselves would be of benefit, just as all the other
tools we use to restructure our life are of benefit. We are suffering
from a case of egoism when we think we alone should be exempt from the
laws that govern everything else. T
he same would go for a person that beats themselves up for not being
able to slam dunk a basketball into a 10 foot hoop when they are only
5 feet tall. There might be someone, someplace that can do it, but it
might be 1 out of many millions. Sometime we get stuck with defining
our self worth with the unattainable and when we do not reach these
lofty goals our ego says we are a failure. This was a problem with me
in my prior life - seeking the unattainable and defining who I was by
the failure or success of reaching unattainable goals I set out for
myself. As I wrote in an earlier post entitled "On Meditation and
Finding Universal Truth, "People are too busy developing what sounds
good to the ego instead of what is good for the body and soul."
Many years ago after squandering much money trying to "buy" happiness
I learned that "one thing only goes so far with giving a person a good
life." True happiness and serenity is composed of many qualities and
not just one. Positive thinking as well as everything else falls into
this category requiring us to live balanced lives. Positive thinking
is important and useful, but it must be coupled with realistic and
attainable goals as well as doing the footwork to reach those goals.
If the goals are never realized with our best effort, (Efforts that
are within our personal and recovery programs limits) then we can
gratefully accept that it was not meant to be and move on without
shame or regrets. We can go too far with positive thinking just like
anything else the addict abuses.
The perennial positive thinker must spend much time and energy to
displace negative thoughts that pop up in their mind and this causes
blindness to the big picture. This unrealistic view could be dangerous
in some cases when caution is thrown to the wind and thoughts of
temperance and caution are viewed as negative thinking when a "can do"
attitude gets overblown with egoism. An excess of positiveness can
also block creativity and problem solving by displacing those thoughts
we view as negative. Moderation in all things as the ancient Chinese
sages said. On pages 122-125 of AA's 12 and 12, it goes into detail
about living right size. If realizing and staying within boundaries
was not an important issue, the 12 and 12 would not mention it. So, no
matter how we program ourselves, we all still have limits as
humans...and especially as recovering addicts.
There are many things required to cultivate a garden and the seeds we
plant are only part of the equation. If we have good seeds but do not
water them they will not sprout and grow. If we have plenty of water
but dead seeds, it yields nothing. If we only have one crop and it
fails due to bugs or a crop disease, we will starve, so it is good to
have diversity. There is a saying in Buddhism that a clay Buddha
cannot get through the water - as it will sink. A wood Buddha cannot
get through a fire - as it will burn. A bronze Buddha cannot get
through a furnace - as it will melt. But, a clay Buddha can get though
a furnace to become stone. A wood Buddha can float on the water and
not sink. A bronze Buddha can get though a fire without melting. In
the same way, we can use positive thinking and affirmations to give us
a diversity of tools to supplement our "crops" in our recovery work
and in our search for a peaceful life. But we must also not forget to
do our physical footwork required in recovery and restructuring our
lives as well as doing our spiritual recovery or 12 step work to make
our garden flourish.
"The universe is transformation - our lives are what our thoughts make
it."Marcus Aurelius Antoninus
How do you lose anger?
This is what separates the enlightened mind from the unenlightened
mind and why enlightenment can't be forced on someone.
Can you force someone to lose the anger if they are not ready to?
Tired of being angry?
Just relinquish control and anger will be diminished.
Anger and control go hand in hand.
Some of these tendencies come from habit other times they stem from
ignorance. Either way we can change our habits or extinguish ignorance
with knowledge, mindfulness and practice.
The first step is realization that something is disturbing our peace.
And for many this realization can come about through writing or
journaling.
Putting our complaints down on pen and paper first crystallizes in our
heads what needs to be changed or accepted in our lives.
Getting it all out and putting it all down is the first start of this
recognition process that leads us to recovery.
Without this recognition, that we are sick or something is wrong in
our lives, we cannot develop the desire for change.
We don't even know what is wrong to change!
Writing your complaints down is the first start to making the roadmap
for restructuring your life.
Restructuring our lives is very important if we want to get peace from
our addictions.
Those things that cannot be restructured need to be accepted.
Either way we can find peace -- by change or acceptance.
When you write, it uses a different part of the brain that mere
speaking uses and I seem to get amazing results from writing as
compared to just talking.
Writing helps crystallize your thoughts, it shares recovery with other
addicts and they can know they are not alone.
Just remember what the Buddhists say in the eightfold path about right
actions.
We have to use the right thoughts, the right actions and take the
right direction with recovery.
Just spinning our wheels in the wrong direction does little for
recovery, so write about things that matter to you and your recovery.
Some people use the list for jokes and other off topic subjects.
While it is important to laugh once in while it still boils down to
what my father used to tell me about living life "you only get out
what you put in."
What I would do with your letter is to print it out and distill what
needs to me changed in your lives.
There is no better roadmap for change than this.
On page 90 of the AA's 12 and 12 the writers mention how the addict
cannot afford "justifiable anger" and it should be left to those
better qualified to handle it.
With reference to this statement -- it is gospel - there is no
argument here. We can always settle such disputes by looking deeply
into the person, place, thing or emotion in question and ask if it
helps or hurts our practice?
Does having anger and hatred in our hearts ever increase our peace or
serenity or does it diminish it?
Even is we are justified, so called, in having this emotion does it
suddenly become a peace generator in our life with this newfound
license to hate or is it still a peace buster whether we have an
excuse or not?
The path is clear about which direction to take and all that remains
is the release of the anger.
Some people get confused with this anger question and beat themselves
for still experiencing this emotion thinking they should be a
"perfectly spiritual individual" and above such lowly emotions as
getting angry. They think they can perfect their lives and wipe out
natural law with one blow called spirituality.
Due to the diversity of thought we humans are capable of we have all
sorts of thoughts and emotions that pop up in our heads. Without this
ability we could not think as we do. But, just because thoughts or
emotions pop up in our heads the choice is ours alone whether we
foster and build on any particular thought or emotion.
Spirituality does not eliminate such thoughts - it just helps decide
what we do with them.
Anger is also part of our natural make up. Anger is an emotions that
can serve us when we need to summon it up in a life or death situation
such as self defense or when our species had to hunt big game for a
living - hunt with spears, clubs and rocks.
Even if we are dealing with life or death self defense and must
generate anger, the byproducts is still a disruption of our peace as
we recover from the circumstance as a shaking and rattled mess.
So, even if anger is justified, so called, it does not magically
become a peace promoter in our lives instead of a peace destroyer.
Anger is also an important emotion for self preservation in less
dangerous circumstances than big game hunts, for without feeling anger
we wound not seek out change - changing our environment that might be
an unhealthy one for us.
So, we should never regret feeling anger, but just as anger and
excretion are two naturally occurring parts of being a human, we
should let them serve us instead of we being enslaved to them.
Anger comes in two forms.
Nature Based Anger and Toxic Based Anger
Always remember, anger is a nature given tool of defense and living
right. But it takes humans to tun this healthy tool into an unhealthy,
toxic tool of destruction.
Besides justified anger, there are HUNDREDS of other things that one
cannot "afford" in their life is they desire inner peace.
Sure, we can all white knuckle it and just scrape by with, ready to
slip off at a moments notice if we want to put our desires before our
practice.
But, learning what fits and what does not fit comfortably in our life
is the ongoing battle we all have to undertake if we want peace.
In short, we have to ask if our practice can "afford" the many things
we come into daily contact with and the measure of our success will be
determined by how well we live within our comfortable means by asking
this "affordability" question.
Before I could find lasting and peaceful recovery I had to learn to
refuse many areas of my old life that did not serve me any longer.
This is how I coined the phrase, "You are not recovering until your
start refusing...refusing the old sick ways that got you here."
The 3 paths that addiction (Yes, anger is addictive) can take are
these: the addiction can be increased, it can be decreased or can be
frozen. These 3 paths shows us which direction we are headed in with
our recovery at any given moment.
Clarity about affordability comes from a continual orientation of
putting our programs wants first and our personal wants or desires
second and by asking the question of how any person, place, thing or
activity will affect my recovery program?
Once the addict has this affordability mindset in place they can
direct their thoughts towards the cultivation of recovery, so that
whatever action they are engaged in - it is always evaluated from this
perspective and they can find great success from applying this single
minded dedication to change. Suddenly they find their recovery
practice and life can become as one and asking such questions becomes
second nature for them.
But again, this is the textbook or idealistic way of looking at this
affordability question, we need practical application in the real
world.
Many of us have families and jobs and to be a total renunciate of all
things disruptive to our peace and our recovery program is not always
possible or desirable when looking at the big picture.
I often hear excuses from other addicts saying they can't stop this or
that because of their family, jobs or other obligations, so we need to
balance these two extremes of being a total renunciate with the other
extreme of being paralyzed and not changing a thing because of excuses
and justification.
We have to work towards a balance if we want peace and just like
exercise, we always seem to find reasons for not doing what we know is
right.
The way I work it is to be aware of what is disruptive to my peace and
to change it if possible as a first choice or work on accepting it as
the serenity prayer says as a second choice.
I try to stay away from justification or looking for excuses to
continue on the wrong path. I either change things or work on
accepting them. If we base our decisions of proven principles of
recovery it helps takes us out of the decision making process and
rests our recovery on solid foundation instead of excuses.
I don't beat myself for not being able to perform well in every given
circumstance under the sun. I know that I do not mesh well with
everything and everybody in life and I have certain limits and
abilities. To do otherwise would say that we have the right to be
perfect and violate our make up and that we have no limits or
boundaries to govern us and are godlike.
The 12 step programs reminds us to work within our limits by "staying
right size" on pages 122-125, so it tells me right there I am not
immune to all things destructive just because I work the 12 steps.
In SCA they have a tool called abstention. They abstain the best way
they can from people places or things they have found to be
detrimental to their recovery program efforts from past experience
with them.
My recovery success is based a lot on abstaining from people, places
and things that do not mesh well with me and if I cannot avoid them,
then I work to make the unavoidable fit better by changing things on
my end.
Yes, we cannot change others, but we do usually have control of
ourselves and how we participate in dealing with others. Even though
we cannot completely change or wipe our many problem areas in our life
we can usually change *some* aspects of most problems to make them
more bearable.
So, I am always looking for small changes to make in the right
direction and this recovery orientation towards the direction of
change helps by giving hope of possible larger future change as well.
In addition you can work practice a meditation on the 4 Immeasurables
aka Divine States of Dwelling. Radiate the 4 Immeasurables in all 4
directions as well, as above and below you so it emanates from your
being throughout the universe.
Meditate on:
Limitless Compassion for all suffering beings.
Limitless Joy for over the salvation of others from suffering
Limitless Peace for all beings whether friend or enemy
Limitless Kindness towards all sentient beings.
But bottom line is either you must change from the inside out - or
life will change you 'its way' from the outside in and this tends to
rot your insides with the byproducts that a life of toxic anger
produces.
Take care,
V (Male)
Agnostic Freethinker
Practical Philosopher
AA#2
ur_droll
Repeat the following.... I kill myself today and peace will follow
Parsons
If you would it'd be a start.
>
Smiler
"Richard Catto" <rrc...@muizenberg.org.za> wrote in message
news:1183607267.1...@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
That's the current thinking.
Smiler,
The godless one
Richard Catto
> On Jul 4, 1:49?am, Richard Catto <rrca...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > ur_droll wrote:
> > > Emergency workers believe Stoltzfus climbed into the pit in an attempt
> > > to rescue Showalter. When the two men didn't come out, Phyillis
> > > Showalter and then the couple's two daughters apparently made their
> > > way in, all succumbing to the deadly gas.
> > why didn't any of them throw a lighted match in first?
Will I find a ham sammich? extra crispy.
trippy
Richard Catto took the hamburger meat, threw it on the grill, and I said
"Oh Wow"...
Because they'd blow up. Are you retarded?
--
trippy
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sTaRShInE_mOOnBeAm aT HoTmAil dOt CoM
NP: "So She's Leaving" -- The Trews
"What did I tell the kid. It's about how hard you can get hit,
and keep moving forward. It's about how much you can take,
and keep moving forward. Get up."
-- Sylvester Stallone "Rocky Balboa"
ur_droll
> In article <1183528199.465822.156...@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
Whooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooosssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Richard Catto
> > > Emergency workers believe Stoltzfus climbed into the pit in an attempt
> > > to rescue Showalter. When the two men didn't come out, Phyillis
> > > Showalter and then the couple's two daughters apparently made their
> > > way in, all succumbing to the deadly gas.
> > why didn't any of them throw a lighted match in first?
> Because they'd blow up. Are you retarded?
how would you get rid of the methane gas then?
i mean, the situation is that you've got two corpses in a pit filled
with methane gas and no breathing apparatus.
how do you get rid of the gas so you can enter the pit and retrieve
the bodies?
trippy
"Oh Wow"...
> trippy wrote:
They have tanks filled with air now. Find some and some masks that are
designed to go with them. They had to have had some outside help or else
the whole damn community would have died trying to save each other.
Either they blew enough methane out to retrieve the bodies or they went
in with masks and air tanks. Even long enough to put rope on the bodies
anyway. Get a long enough rope, and you can pull them out from a safer
position.
Mike
news:1183705202.6...@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
They send you in to inhale all the methane, shit-sucker.
--
"Anybody can have more birthdays; but it takes
balls to get old!"
ur_droll
What's wrong with a grappling hook?
Richard Catto
depends. do they have one in my colour?
it's the little details that count, you know.
Richard Catto
> > > > > Emergency workers believe Stoltzfus climbed into the pit in an attempt
> > > > > to rescue Showalter. When the two men didn't come out, Phyillis
> > > > > Showalter and then the couple's two daughters apparently made their
> > > > > way in, all succumbing to the deadly gas.
> > > > why didn't any of them throw a lighted match in first?
> > > Because they'd blow up. Are you retarded?
> > how would you get rid of the methane gas then?
> > i mean, the situation is that you've got two corpses in a pit filled
> > with methane gas and no breathing apparatus.
> > how do you get rid of the gas so you can enter the pit and retrieve
> > the bodies?
> They have tanks filled with air now. Find some and some masks that are
> designed to go with them. They had to have had some outside help or else
> the whole damn community would have died trying to save each other.
> Either they blew enough methane out to retrieve the bodies or they went
> in with masks and air tanks. Even long enough to put rope on the bodies
> anyway. Get a long enough rope, and you can pull them out from a safer
> position.
btw methane is a greenhouse gas. all these manure pits need to collect
the methane they produce rather than contribute to global warming.
in the above instance, i reckon burn it down.
ur_droll
What colour do you get when ya mix shit brown and blood red?
Mike
The color of Dick's lips.
ur_droll
> "ur_droll" <C...@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
And a decidedly poor choice for big boys mascara
Mike
The useless fuck also wears mascara?????
ur_droll
A question for you to reflect on
Mike
Reflect on? In this place?????
You Think
"Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote in message news:qnhji.13311$vA3....@newsfe2-win.ntli.net...
>>> > these people had no plan of attack, they just panicked.
>>> > how was a woman going to retrieve two men at the bottom of a pit?
>>> > she didn't even stop to think what would happen to her two daughters
>>> > if she died trying to save her husband.
>>> > if you have a family and your spouse gets into serious difficulties,
>>> > you need to think very carefully before attempting a risky rescue
>>> > yourself.
>>> I knew an old couple who had a underwater light short circuit in their
>>> pool. He got fried when he went for a swim. She got fried when she
>>> jumped in to save him. The two sons got about a $million each for
>>> being smart enough to stick around and collect the inheritance.
>>
>> if your spouse is going to conduct himself in an electrifying manner,
>> you need to insulate yourself from him and not go charging ahead if
>> you desire a positive outcome.
>>
>
> That's the current thinking.
. Investigating Jesus
Video Clips in a "Faith Under Fire" Environment
http://76.162.173.93/guest/=DVD=investigating-jesus/
1. Is There Free Will Amidst God's Prophecies? (2:29) - Mark Mittelberg,
Lee Strobel
2. Why is Jesus' Fulfillment of Prophecy Unique? (5:15) - Mark Mittelberg,
Lee Strobel
3. Why Did Jesus Not Fulfill All the Prophecies About Him? (2:35) - Mark
Mittelberg, Lee Strobel
4. How Likely Was It For Someone to Fulfill These Prophecies? (2:59) - Mark
Mittelberg, Lee Strobel
5. Do Old Testament Prophecy Refer to Israel or Jesus? (4:15) - Mark
Mittelberg, Lee Strobel
6. Are There Other Explanations for the Fulfilled Prophecy in the Life of
Jesus? (5:34) - Mark Mittelberg, Lee Strobel
7. Christ Shares in Our Suffering (7:03) - Diane Langberg
8. Christ Follows Us into Our Darkest Places (3:02) - Diane Langberg
9. The Case for Christmas from Eyewitness Testimony (5:26) - Lee Strobel
10. The Case for Christmas from Early Recorded Accounts (6:51) - Lee
Strobel
11. The Case for Christmas from Archeological and Historical Records (4:22)
- Lee Strobel
12. Christmas Celebrates the Birth of God, not a Man (5:57) - Lee Strobel
13. The Case for Christmas from Fulfilled Prophecy (6:36) - Lee Strobel
14. Easter Ultimately Proves the Case for Christmas (6:14) - Lee Strobel
15. The Verdict is Convincing in the Case for Christmas (6:17) - Lee
Strobel
16. Was Jesus Really Born of a Virgin? (6:45) - Lee Strobel, Mark
Mittelberg
17. What Child Is This? The Identity of the Child Christ (9:26) - Lee
Strobel
18. The Accuracy of the Gospels: Did the Writers Tell the Truth? (4:12) -
Lee Strobel
19. The Evidences for Jesus' Deity: Did He Back Up His Claims? (6:38) - Lee
Strobel
20. The Impact of a Historical Jesus: What is Our Response? (8:38) - Lee
Strobel
21. Do All Roads Lead to God: Is Every Religion True? (0:45) - Lee Strobel,
Gregory Koukl
22. Is Jesus a Prophet or the Son of God? Why did Jesus' disciples believe
he was divine? (0:34) - Lee Strobel,
Michael Licona
23. Is Jesus a Prophet or the Son of God? Did Jesus Believe He was Divine?
(0:43) - Lee Strobel, Michael Licona
24. Is Jesus a Prophet or the Son of God? (1:28) - Lee Strobel
25. Did Jesus Rise from the Dead? The Resurrection is a Historical Fact
(1:08) - Lee Strobel, William Lane Craig
26. Did Jesus Rise from the Dead? (1:19) - Lee Strobel
27. Do All Roads Lead to God: Jesus Was Not One of Many Prophets (1:07) -
Lee Strobel, Gregory Koukl
28. Do All Roads Lead to God: Lee's Perspective on the Matter (1:26) - Lee
Strobel
29. The Evidences for Jesus Deity: Did He Back Up His Claims to being Son
of God? (7:40) - Lee Strobel
30. The Evidences for Jesus Deity: Did He Claim He Was God? (5:22) - Lee
Strobel
31. Is Jesus the Only Way to God? (2:07) - Lee Strobel
32. How Many People Really Saw Jesus Alive? Eyewitness Accounts of Christ
(8:18) - Lee Strobel
Investigating Jesus
33. Why Would Someone Die for a Lie? The Disciples Speak from the Grave
(2:59) - Lee Strobel
34. Did Jesus Fit the Old Testament Description of the Messiah? The Power
of Prophecy (7:25) - Lee Strobel
35. Did Jesus Rise From the Grave? The Resurrection Reality (3:46) - Lee
Strobel
36. Debating the Existence of God: Jesus' Resurrection as Proof (7:12) -
Cliff Knechtle
37. The Case for Easter: Did Jesus Actually Die on the Cross? (6:15) - Lee
Strobel
38. The Case for Easter: Did Anyone Really See Jesus After the
Resurrection? (6:12) - Lee Strobel
39. The Case for Easter: Was the Tomb Really Found Empty? (4:02) - Lee
Strobel
40. The Case for Easter: Why Did the Church Succeed if it Was Based on a
Lie? (5:03) - Lee Strobel
41. Did Christ Rise from the Dead? (5:20) - Gary Habermas, Tim Callahan
42. What Evidence Is There For the Empty Tomb of the Resurrection? (5:56) -
Gary Habermas, Tim Callahan
43. Is Jesus the Jewish Messiah? (4:05) - Michael Brown
44. How Do We Know the Facts that Fuel our Faith? (7:44) - Lee Strobel,
Deepak Chopra, Greg Koukl
45. Is There Proof for the Historical Jesus? (6:30) - Michael Licona
46. Was There Really an Empty Tomb? (3:00) - Michael Licona
47. Did People Really Witness the Resurrected Jesus? (4:25) - Michael
Licona
48. Is There a Convincing Case for the Resurrection? (2:37) - Michael
Licona
49. How Can Someone Come Back from the Dead? (1:07) - Michael Licona
50. Was Jesus Really Crucified? (3:20) - Michael Licona
51. Why Does the Resurrection Make a Difference? (4:23) - Lee Strobel,
Jerry Johnston
52. What is So Unique About Jesus Christ? (5:13) - Lee Strobel
53. Is there a Case for the Resurrection of Jesus? (7:30) - Dr. William
Lane Craig
54. Did People Really See Jesus After the Resurrection? (4:57) - Dr.
William Lane Craig
55. What is the Most Rational Conclusion of a Resurrected Jesus? (1:41) -
Dr. William Lane Craig
56. Did Jesus Physically Appear to the Disciples or Was He a Vision? (2:17)
- Dr. William Lane Craig
57. What Do Scholars Believe About the Resurrection of Jesus? (4:26) - Dr.
William Lane Craig
58. Did Simon Peter Invent the Resurrection? (3:32) - Dr. William Lane
Craig
59. What is the Personal Impact for the Resurrection? (5:09) - Dr. William
Lane Craig
60. Did Jesus Die and Was He Buried as Christians Claim? (3:27) - Dr.
William Lane Craig
61. Did Early Jews Understand the Scriptures to Claim an Empty Tomb? (3:34)
- Dr. William Lane Craig
62. Did People See the Resurrected Jesus and How Did it Effect Them? (3:42)
- Dr. William Lane Craig
63. Did God Raise Jesus from the Dead? (2:59) - Dr. William Lane Craig
64. Has God Revealed Himself Personally to Creation? (5:15) - Dr. William
Lane Craig
65. Did Jesus Claim to Be God in His Teachings? (5:53) - Dr. William Lane
Craig
66. Did Jesus Claim to Be God in His Actions? (5:07) - Dr. William Lane
Craig
67. How do Muslims Conceive of Jesus? (4:54) - Dr. William Lane Craig
68. How Much Sin Will Jesus Forgive in My Life? (9:32) - Luis Palau
69. What Does it Mean to Be a Follower of Jesus Christ? (13:13) - Rick
Warren
70. Response to an Email Regarding the ARCHKO Volume (3:04) - Lee Strobel
71. Former Atheist Now Deist, Antony Flew, Goes Beyond Deism Saying a
Creator Was Involved in the creation of Life. (3:01) - Lee Strobel, Antony
Flew
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Parsons
> On Jul 5, 12:39 pm, "Parsons" <ParsonsREM...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> "ur_droll" <C...@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Jul 5, 10:33 am, "Mike Painter" <mddotpain...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> >> Richard Catto wrote:
>> >> > ur_droll wrote:
>> >> >> 5 dead in Virginia farming accident
>> >> >> 7/3/2007, 8:16 a.m. CDT
>> >> >> The Associated Press
>>
>> >> >> RICHMOND, Va. (AP) - Deadly methane gas emanating from a dairy
>> >> >> farm's
>> >> >> manure pit killed five people, including four members of a
>> >> >> Mennonite
>> >> >> family, authorities said.
>>
>> >> >> pit
>> >> >> in a frantic attempt to rescue the others. "It was a domino effect
>> >> >> with one person going in, the second person going after them,"
>> >> >> Sheriff Don Farley said.
>>
>> >> >> The accident began Monday evening when Scott Showalter tried to
>> >> >> transfer manure from one small pit to a larger one, measuring 20
>> >> >> feet
>> >> >> by 20 feet and 8 feet deep.
>>
>> >> >> At some point, the pipe that was transferring the manure became
>> >> >> clogged, and Scott Showalter climbed in the pit to fix the
>> >> >> blockage,
>> >> >> Farley said. He apparently was overcome by methane gas, which is a
>> >> >> byproduct of the liquefied manure, Farley said.
>>
>> >> >> attempt to rescue Showalter. When the two men didn't come out,
>> >> >> Phyillis Showalter and then the couple's two daughters apparently
>> >> >> made their way in, all succumbing to the deadly gas.
>>
>> >> > why didn't any of them throw a lighted match in first?
>>
>> >> had
>> >> not
>> >> the religion been mentioned? (NO, the do not always put on SCBA when
>> >> they
>> >> see a couple fellow firefighters dropping in an empty field)
>> >> How about a family dying because a child wandered into a depression
>> >> filled
>> >> with CO2 and each one dying as they bent to pick the kid up.
>> >> What if it had been two of our paramedics that almost died a few yeas
>> >> ago
>> >> when they went in to check on a family, not knowing the house was
>> >> filled
>> >> with CO?
>>
>>
>> So why are you alive?
>>
>>
>>
>> >> You guys sound like christians.
>>
>>
>> When are you going to grow up?
>>
>>
>
> You keep blowing my cock and we'll see
Didn't I read where you have a little pee pee?
>
Parsons
> On Jul 5, 3:00 am, GP <GP_of_...@Yahoo.Com> wrote:
>> On Jul 4, 4:01 am, ur_droll <C...@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
>>
>> > - Show quoted text -
>>
>
>
> Why?... are you having trouble seeing in there
It sounds to me that you're using a candle as a dildo.
>
ur_droll
Gosh!... You lip read
Mike
news:VaLji.17711$3a....@bignews9.bellsouth.net...
>>>
>>> > Perhaps we could suggest a candle light vigil to farewell them- Hide
>>> > quoted text -
>>>
>>> > - Show quoted text -
>>>
>>> you gonna use the candle you have up your ass kiwi?
>>
>>
>> Why?... are you having trouble seeing in there
>
> It sounds to me that you're using a candle as a dildo.
JEZUZ! You and Dick really need to hook up. I mean that literally and
figuratively. Seriously! How old are you? My money is on between 10 and
15.
Parsons
You must be proud of having a little pee pee.
>
ur_droll
Since you started monopolising it, I've forgotten what it looks like.
Parsons
"Mike" <skella...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:tuOdnZVjT6CJGRLb...@comcast.com...
> "Parsons" <Parson...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:VaLji.17711$3a....@bignews9.bellsouth.net...
>>>>
>>>> > Perhaps we could suggest a candle light vigil to farewell them- Hide
>>>> > quoted text -
>>>>
>>>> > - Show quoted text -
>>>>
>>>> you gonna use the candle you have up your ass kiwi?
>>>
>>>
>>> Why?... are you having trouble seeing in there
>>
>> It sounds to me that you're using a candle as a dildo.
>
> JEZUZ! You and Dick really need to hook up. I mean that literally and
> figuratively. Seriously! How old are you? My money is on between 10 and
> 15.
A lot you know. It sounds to me that you want Dicky yourself. You'll have to
talk with Droll about him. Better be careful what you say to Droll or he'll
cry.
ur_droll
> "Mike" <skellarnos...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:tuOdnZVjT6CJGRLb...@comcast.com...
>
>
>
> > "Parsons" <ParsonsREM...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> >news:VaLji.17711$3a....@bignews9.bellsouth.net...
>
> >>>> > Perhaps we could suggest a candle light vigil to farewell them- Hide
> >>>> > quoted text -
>
> >>>> > - Show quoted text -
>
> >>>> you gonna use the candle you have up your ass kiwi?
>
> >>> Why?... are you having trouble seeing in there
>
> >> It sounds to me that you're using a candle as a dildo.
>
> > JEZUZ! You and Dick really need to hook up. I mean that literally and
> > figuratively. Seriously! How old are you? My money is on between 10 and
> > 15.
>
> A lot you know. It sounds to me that you want Dicky yourself. You'll have to
> talk with Droll about him. Better be careful what you say to Droll or he'll
> cry.
That ain't my 'tears' trickling down yer chin
Mike
>>>>> > Perhaps we could suggest a candle light vigil to farewell them- Hide
>>>>> > quoted text -
>>>>>
>>>>> > - Show quoted text -
>>>>>
>>>>> you gonna use the candle you have up your ass kiwi?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why?... are you having trouble seeing in there
>>>
>>> It sounds to me that you're using a candle as a dildo.
>>
>> JEZUZ! You and Dick really need to hook up. I mean that literally and
>> figuratively. Seriously! How old are you? My money is on between 10
>> and 15.
>
> A lot you know. It sounds to me that you want Dicky yourself. You'll have
> to
> talk with Droll about him. Better be careful what you say to Droll or
> he'll cry.
Your obsessions are making me puke. You must be the pride of your
neighborhood. Tell me. Do you have a ticket taker mounted by your front
door? The line to get blow-jobs at your house must run the block.
Parsons
Why don't you try it. If it works tell Droll and Dicky so they can do it
too.
Parsons
What's the matter cry baby.
>
>
Parsons
In other words you're saying you don't have anything.
>