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Tomoyuki Tanaka

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May 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/20/98
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In article <6jut56$lam$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
<et...@fkym.daiichi-net.or.jp> wrote:
>I read it first thing this morning. Wait till
>11pm, when TeleHoudai kicks in, and what do I
>see? Someone beat me to the scoop. Oh, well.
>
so the letter's really in Japan Times, huh?

very interesting. does the byline say, "Davis, Calif. USA"?

the letter was prob. sent in by the fake Japanese who reported
this scoop. these for-gaijin newspapers are sloppy with
checking authenticity of contributors in the Letters section.

maybe i have a libel case against Japan Times.


Mike Fester

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May 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/20/98
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Tomoyuki Tanaka (ez07...@dilbert.ucdavis.edu) wrote:
: In article <6jut56$lam$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
One wonders how long it will be before this supposedly nascent lawyer actually
learns some law.

How'd the other threatened lawsuits turn out, Tommy-spud?

Mike

james peters

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May 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/20/98
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Steve Sundberg wrote in message <3563aa2a...@news2.mm.com>...
>On 20 May 1998 18:52:46 GMT, ez07...@dilbert.ucdavis.edu (Tomoyuki


>Tanaka) wrote:
>>
>> maybe i have a libel case against Japan Times.
>

>No such luck, Tanuki-chan. Newspapers are considered common carriers
>when it comes to publishing letters-to-the-editors. Such material is
>not paid for; therefore the newspaper has no contractual relationship
>with the writer. The only person who might have a case against is the
>alleged pseudo-Tanuki-chan who mailed the letter. There are, of
>course, hundreds (if not thousands) of Tomoyuki Tanakas, so you would
>have to prove more than just libelous intent; you would also need to
>prove malicious intent to defame.
>
>Aren't you learning anything in law school?
>

...and he has posted his birthyear as 1962. So, he's middle-aged, has a
long, documented racist history on usenet that could very plausibly come
back to haunt him, and is "allegedly" attending law school but has no grasp
of the basics.

Question is, will he continue this campaign even after he's flunked out of
law school? Will he then sue himself for his malicious intent to defame
himself?

jp


Steve Sundberg

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May 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/21/98
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On 20 May 1998 18:52:46 GMT, ez07...@dilbert.ucdavis.edu (Tomoyuki
Tanaka) wrote:
>
> maybe i have a libel case against Japan Times.

No such luck, Tanuki-chan. Newspapers are considered common carriers
when it comes to publishing letters-to-the-editors. Such material is
not paid for; therefore the newspaper has no contractual relationship
with the writer. The only person who might have a case against is the
alleged pseudo-Tanuki-chan who mailed the letter. There are, of
course, hundreds (if not thousands) of Tomoyuki Tanakas, so you would
have to prove more than just libelous intent; you would also need to
prove malicious intent to defame.

Aren't you learning anything in law school?


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Scott Reynolds

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May 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/21/98
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Tomoyuki Tanaka wrote:

> maybe i have a libel case against Japan Times.

Go for it!
_______________________________________________________________
Scott Reynolds s...@gol.com

Richard Kaminski

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May 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/21/98
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Steve Sundberg wrote:

> On 20 May 1998 18:52:46 GMT, ez07...@dilbert.ucdavis.edu (Tomoyuki

> Tanaka) wrote:
> >
> > maybe i have a libel case against Japan Times.
>

> No such luck, Tanuki-chan. Newspapers are considered common carriers
> when it comes to publishing letters-to-the-editors.

This is plainly wrong.. Newspapers are legally responsible for what
appears in their publication, whether paid for or not. They are
publishing an article intended to be read by many thousands of people.
Hardly the same as a postal service conveying a letter of which they
have no way of knowing the contents.

You don't believe me? Try sending an obviously libellous letter to your
local paper and see if they print it. Try phoning a talk radio station
and say something libellous, see how long you stay on. That's an
analogous situation, there's no contractual relationship there either
between the caller and the station.

> Such material is
> not paid for; therefore the newspaper has no contractual relationship
> with the writer.

Contractual relationship with the writer has nothing to do with libel
laws.

> The only person who might have a case against is the
> alleged pseudo-Tanuki-chan who mailed the letter. There are, of
> course, hundreds (if not thousands) of Tomoyuki Tanakas, so you would
> have to prove more than just libelous intent; you would also need to
> prove malicious intent to defame.
>

Hardly worth pursuing some idiot who writes a letter to a paper. First
lesson of law - always go for the deepest pocket.

> Aren't you learning anything in law school?
>

Doesn't sound like you did either, if you went, which I doubt.

Mike Fester

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May 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/21/98
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Richard Kaminski (inter...@clara.co.uk) wrote:

: Steve Sundberg wrote:
:
: > On 20 May 1998 18:52:46 GMT, ez07...@dilbert.ucdavis.edu (Tomoyuki
: > Tanaka) wrote:
: > >
: > > maybe i have a libel case against Japan Times.
: >
: > No such luck, Tanuki-chan. Newspapers are considered common carriers
: > when it comes to publishing letters-to-the-editors.
:
: This is plainly wrong..

Then you will no doubt have no problems citing such cases where newspapers
have been successfully sued over such things.

: Newspapers are legally responsible for what


: appears in their publication, whether paid for or not. They are
: publishing an article intended to be read by many thousands of people.
: Hardly the same as a postal service conveying a letter of which they
: have no way of knowing the contents.
:
: You don't believe me?

No.

: Try sending an obviously libellous letter to your


: local paper and see if they print it.

It happens.

: Try phoning a talk radio station


: and say something libellous, see how long you stay on. That's an

Happens as well.

: analogous situation, there's no contractual relationship there either


: between the caller and the station.

And in either case, the medium simply provides an outlet for free speech. All
standard disclaimers apply.

: > Such material is


: > not paid for; therefore the newspaper has no contractual relationship
: > with the writer.

: Contractual relationship with the writer has nothing to do with libel
: laws.

Actually, it does.

: > Aren't you learning anything in law school?



: Doesn't sound like you did either, if you went, which I doubt.

Were you, by chance, deprived of oxygen early in your development?

Or was it by design?

Mike

Richard Kaminski

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May 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/21/98
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Mike Fester wrote:

> Were you, by chance, deprived of oxygen early in your development?
>
> Or was it by design?
>
> Mike

That doesn't make sense, Mike. It must be the first time in the history
of humanity that one of your all-knowing posts doesn't make sense.

Are you by chance deprived of a sexual partner, Mike? They make some
excellent Asia-fetish rubber dolls these days for people like you, I
hear.


Mike Fester

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May 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/21/98
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Richard Kaminski (inter...@clara.co.uk) wrote:

: Mike Fester wrote:

: > Were you, by chance, deprived of oxygen early in your development?
: >
: > Or was it by design?

: That doesn't make sense, Mike.

It does; see oxygen deprivation stunts brain development, and that would
account for most of your posts (and your habit of trimming things that
show you to be wrong, your distressing propensity to see capital letters
where none were typed, etc.)

I was simply wondering if you were deprived by accident, or if it was done
to you intentionally.

BTW, did you ever have someone else explain the phrase "he is dead to
me"?

: Are you by chance deprived of a sexual partner, Mike?

Thanks for the offer, really it's quite flattering, but no thanks.

Mike

Richard Kaminski

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May 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/21/98
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Mike Fester wrote:

Really? So you found it <flattering> to be told to go and buy an Asia
fetish love doll? In that case, I hate to think what you really do take
out your obvious sexual frustrations on.

> Mike

I feel <really> sorry for your poor cat. Animals suffer all kinds of
unspeakable treatment at the hands of humans, but this really is awful,
Mike. Can't you use a stuffed one instead?


Mike Fester

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May 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/21/98
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Richard Kaminski (inter...@clara.co.uk) wrote:
: Mike Fester wrote:
:
: > : Are you by chance deprived of a sexual partner, Mike?

: >
: > Thanks for the offer, really it's quite flattering, but no thanks.
: >
:
: Really?

No, not really, I was just being kind.

: In that case, I hate to think

I've noticed.

: I feel <really> sorry for your poor cat.

Why?

What'd you do to her?

Mike

Douglas C. Neidermeyer

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May 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/22/98
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In article <3563E5DA...@gol.com>, Scott Reynolds <s...@gol.com> wrote:

> Tomoyuki Tanaka wrote:
>
> > maybe i have a libel case against Japan Times.
>

> Go for it!
> _______________________________________________________________
> Scott Reynolds s...@gol.com

Will that be on Court TV?

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james peters

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May 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/22/98
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Douglas C. Neidermeyer wrote in message ...


>In article <3563E5DA...@gol.com>, Scott Reynolds <s...@gol.com> wrote:
>
>> Tomoyuki Tanaka wrote:
>>
>> > maybe i have a libel case against Japan Times.
>>
>> Go for it!
>> _______________________________________________________________
>> Scott Reynolds s...@gol.com
>
>Will that be on Court TV?
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My guess is Jerry Springer.

jp

Steve Sundberg

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May 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/29/98
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On Thu, 21 May 1998 21:18:42 +0100, Richard Kaminski
<inter...@clara.co.uk> wrote:

>Steve Sundberg wrote:
>
>> On 20 May 1998 18:52:46 GMT, ez07...@dilbert.ucdavis.edu (Tomoyuki

>> Tanaka) wrote:
>> >
>> > maybe i have a libel case against Japan Times.
>>

>> No such luck, Tanuki-chan. Newspapers are considered common carriers
>> when it comes to publishing letters-to-the-editors.
>

>This is plainly wrong.. Newspapers are legally responsible for what


>appears in their publication, whether paid for or not. They are
>publishing an article intended to be read by many thousands of people.

A letter-to-the-editor can hardly be considered an 'article' in the
same vein as material written by a newspaper's staff or syndicated
columnists.

Greg Macdonald

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May 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/31/98
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Scott Reynolds <s...@gol.com> wrote:

>Tomoyuki Tanaka wrote:

>> maybe i have a libel case against Japan Times.

>Go for it!
>_______________________________________________________________
>Scott Reynolds s...@gol.com

Yes, Tommy, I absolutely think this is an issue which deserves ALL of
your time. Every last second. I wouldn't even consider posting another
article for several years and instead spend all that time working up a
case against the Japan Times. Please, start right away.


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Peter Payne

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Jul 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/17/98
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Scott Reynolds <s...@gol.com> wrote:

> Tomoyuki Tanaka wrote:
>
> > maybe i have a libel case against Japan Times.

Ah, Tomoyuki Tanaka, hero of the Internet.


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