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Dale
Oct 29, 2015, 1:33:14 PM10/29/15
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why only one uni-directional expansion?
in any other science only one observation would be subject to skepticism
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in any other science only one observation would be subject to skepticism
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lucaspa
Oct 29, 2015, 2:00:13 PM10/29/15
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On Thursday, October 29, 2015 at 1:33:14 PM UTC-4, Dale wrote:
> why only one uni-directional expansion?
>
> in any other science only one observation would be subject to skepticism
"Uni-directional" Isn't space 3D? Therefore, as we know it, the expansion was omnidirectional.
> why only one uni-directional expansion?
>
> in any other science only one observation would be subject to skepticism
We are talking about historical events, not lab experiments. Yes, in the lab we have to do replications. But in history? How many observations that the dinosaurs went extinct? Just one.
Or that humans came to be, however you think that happened? Just once. Do you now doubt your own existence? Or is the existence of humans skeptical by science?
What you do with historical events is that you look for evidence NOW that the event would have produced. That's what scientists did with BB: looked for evidence today that 1) the event happened and 2) how it happened. The expansion of the universe is one such piece of evidence. The cosmic microwave background radiation is another. Hydrogen:helium ratios are a 3rd way.
Dale
Oct 29, 2015, 3:39:24 PM10/29/15
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not testable
most of my religious beliefs are hypothesis, so the only complaint is
that science isn't sticking to the scientific process
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Sylvia Else
Oct 29, 2015, 8:43:14 PM10/29/15
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On 30/10/2015 4:33 AM, Dale wrote:
> why only one uni-directional expansion?
>
> in any other science only one observation would be subject to skepticism
>
>
>
We have evidence for only one big bang, together with evidence that the
> why only one uni-directional expansion?
>
> in any other science only one observation would be subject to skepticism
>
>
>
expansion of the universe is accelerating.
For time being, what preceded the big bang, if anything, is not
accessible to us. Similarly, what follows the present expansion phase,
if anything, is beyond the reach of observation.
Consequently, we can say nothing about either of those, including
whether or not they even exist. When one has nothing to say, if one has
any sense, one says nothing.
Sylvia.
The_Inquirer
Oct 30, 2015, 9:36:04 AM10/30/15
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On 30/10/2015 8:43 AM, Sylvia Else wrote:
> We have evidence for only one big bang,
since it started small, why call it "big"? ;-)
> We have evidence for only one big bang,
there wasn't air, oxygen nitrogen molecules weren't formed at that time,
so how could it "bang"? ;-)
even if there was a "bang", but no one was there to listen, would it
still be a "bang"? ;-)
together with evidence that the
> expansion of the universe is accelerating.
>
> For time being, what preceded the big bang, if anything, is not
> accessible to us. Similarly, what follows the present expansion phase,
> if anything, is beyond the reach of observation.
>
> Consequently, we can say nothing about either of those, including
> whether or not they even exist. When one has nothing to say, if one has
> any sense, one says nothing.
>
> Sylvia.
>
>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WLQ024pY1U
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lucaspa
Oct 30, 2015, 5:20:48 PM10/30/15
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On Thursday, October 29, 2015 at 3:39:24 PM UTC-4, Dale wrote:
> the problem is that this makes it a hypothesis and not a theory, it is
> not testable
Mistaken view of hypothesis and theory.
> the problem is that this makes it a hypothesis and not a theory, it is
> not testable
You seem to hold a common view seems to be that hypotheses somehow "grow up" to be theories as they gain "proof" to theories and then to laws. Thus, demoting BB from theory to hypothesis.
BUT, that isn't how hypotheses and theories work.
Both hypotheses and theories are statements about the physical universe. There is no clear or sharp dividing line between them. Hypotheses tend to be more specific statements. An example would be: Fibroblast growth factor (FGF) is a growth factor for human skin fibroblasts. FGF is a protein that stimulates the division of human skin fibroblasts. Now you test the hypothesis in an attempt to show it to be wrong or false. If you fail, then the hypothesis is a supported hypothesis. If you succeed, the hypothesis is a falsified hypothesis. In this case, the hypothesis is supported; FGF got its name because it did stimulate the division of human skin fibroblasts.
Theories tend to be more general statements. This is where the gray area comes in. How general does a statement have to be before it moves from hypothesis to theory? There is no clear cut answer.
An example of a theory would be: Fibroblast growth factor is a growth factor for all mammalian mesodermal cells. Fibroblasts are a mesodermal cell but other mesodermal cells are bone cells, cartilage cells, and the cells that make up blood vessels. Now, the supported hypothesis of FGF for human skin fibroblasts becomes part of the theory. Laws involving cell replication also are part of the theory.
As we saw above, the HYPOTHESIS that FGF is a growth factor for fibroblasts is a very CERTAIN hypothesis. I can name a lot more VERY CERTAIN hypotheses.
So, saying something is a hypothesis says nothing about how certain it is. Same way, calling a statement a theory says NOTHING about how certain it is.
Both hypotheses/theories can have 3 states:
1. Untested
2. Tested and falsified
3. Tested and supported.
Because BB deals with the whole universe, it is general enough to qualify as a theory. It is a VERY well supported theory. So well supported that we regard it as "fact" until some falsifying data comes in.
> most of my religious beliefs are hypothesis, so the only complaint is
> that science isn't sticking to the scientific process
I would point out that in Biblical studies (religion) there is what is called the Documentary Hypothesis. This concerns the authorship of the Pentateuch. It is a VERY well supported hypothesis. So supported that Biblical scholars consider it "fact", just like we consider "FGF is a growth factor for fibroblasts" a "fact".
lucaspa
Oct 30, 2015, 5:27:30 PM10/30/15
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On Friday, October 30, 2015 at 9:36:04 AM UTC-4, The_Inquirer wrote:
> since it started small, why call it "big"? ;-)
> there wasn't air, oxygen nitrogen molecules weren't formed at that time,
> so how could it "bang"? ;-)
>
> even if there was a "bang", but no one was there to listen, would it
> still be a "bang"? ;-)
The name was given by Fred Hoyle. Hoyle didn't like the theory; he thought Steady State was correct. "Big Bang" was Hoyle's way of trying to ridicule the theory by giving it a silly name.
> since it started small, why call it "big"? ;-)
> there wasn't air, oxygen nitrogen molecules weren't formed at that time,
> so how could it "bang"? ;-)
>
> even if there was a "bang", but no one was there to listen, would it
> still be a "bang"? ;-)
So all your comments are correct, but they had nothing to do with the name. Scientists kept the name, maybe to tick Hoyle off. It certainly did, but I can't say that was the motive.
> > For time being, what preceded the big bang, if anything, is not
> > accessible to us. Similarly, what follows the present expansion phase,
> > if anything, is beyond the reach of observation.
However, we can certainly EXTRAPOLATE what the universe will eventually look like: LM Krauss and GD Starkman, The fate of life in the universe. Scientific American 281: 58-67, Nov. 1999.
The video has been removed. So you will have to find another source.
Dale
Oct 30, 2015, 10:55:01 PM10/30/15
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On 10/30/2015 05:20 PM, lucaspa wrote:
> Both hypotheses and theories are statements about the physical universe. There is no clear or sharp dividing line between them. Hypotheses tend to be more specific statements.
a theory is a testable hypothesis
> Both hypotheses and theories are statements about the physical universe. There is no clear or sharp dividing line between them. Hypotheses tend to be more specific statements.
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bil...@m.nu
Nov 1, 2015, 9:26:56 AM11/1/15
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On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 13:33:13 -0400, Dale <da...@dalekelly.org> wrote:
>why only one uni-directional expansion?
uni-directional?? you think that the expansion is only going one
>why only one uni-directional expansion?
direction? Tell me which way would that be? left or right? front or
maybe back?
>
>in any other science only one observation would be subject to skepticism
it is called Big Bang Theroy
The BORG
Nov 1, 2015, 7:26:50 PM11/1/15
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They really are so, so funny when they try to do Men's things.
Listen to her "If one has nothing to say then one says nothing".
Have you ever SEEN such intelligence????
Oh boy, your Earth women are a RIOT.
We have never seen anything as funny as a load of silly girls copying
the Men and trying to be Men and trying to do what Men do.
They are absolutely hilarious.
Are you Earth men doing this for a JOKE?
You cannot POSSIBLY take your women seriously????
The BORG
Nov 1, 2015, 7:41:52 PM11/1/15
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One of their funniest is when they try to do Men's sport.
Have you ever seen anything as funny as women trying to do football or
cricket or cycling or other Men's sport. They do look so, so funny. Or
what about when they try to do weightlifting or boxing, they are so,
so funny. We and other Extra Terrestrials watch them for comedy and
entertainment. They are the funniest and most ridiculous creatures we
have ever seen.
And what makes it even funnier is that they take themselves SO
seriously!!!
Women are the biggest joke in the Universe.
Have you seen them try to do reliigon?
Have you HEARD what they say when they know nothing about it at all???
And the damage and suffering they cause when they try to be Doctors or
do Mental Health is unbelieveable.
What about in the army copying the Men being Soldiers and calling
themselves Captain (which is obviously a Men only title) they are so
ridiculous it is beyond belief. They do not even know which ones the
Men's titles are.
As humour and entertainment your women are very, very funny.
Shame about all the ugliness and diseases and corruptions and
suffering they cause when they stick their noses into places where
they do not belong and when they interfere with the Dominance of the
Men.
ALL the suffering on Earth is due to the women.
Men are ALWAYS Dominant and in charge.
That applies everywhere.
And if women interfere with that, then you get all the foul and
horribly and ugly things that you have on Earth.
They have totally corrupted your Space Program, with their nosy noses
and interference in Men Only Places, so do not expect to build an
Enterprise in your future. Most you will manage is something similar
to a shopping trolley that will malfunction half way to Mars!!!!
That is what you get when you let silly girls try to do the Men's
work.
They have corrupted your Sport, your Justice, your Politics, your
Music, your Religions, your Health, your bodies, your Langauge and
even your PLEASURE!!!
You think what you have is Pleasure???
Oh HA HA HA!
Have you ever seen anything as funny as women trying to do football or
cricket or cycling or other Men's sport. They do look so, so funny. Or
what about when they try to do weightlifting or boxing, they are so,
so funny. We and other Extra Terrestrials watch them for comedy and
entertainment. They are the funniest and most ridiculous creatures we
have ever seen.
And what makes it even funnier is that they take themselves SO
seriously!!!
Women are the biggest joke in the Universe.
Have you seen them try to do reliigon?
Have you HEARD what they say when they know nothing about it at all???
And the damage and suffering they cause when they try to be Doctors or
do Mental Health is unbelieveable.
What about in the army copying the Men being Soldiers and calling
themselves Captain (which is obviously a Men only title) they are so
ridiculous it is beyond belief. They do not even know which ones the
Men's titles are.
As humour and entertainment your women are very, very funny.
Shame about all the ugliness and diseases and corruptions and
suffering they cause when they stick their noses into places where
they do not belong and when they interfere with the Dominance of the
Men.
ALL the suffering on Earth is due to the women.
Men are ALWAYS Dominant and in charge.
That applies everywhere.
And if women interfere with that, then you get all the foul and
horribly and ugly things that you have on Earth.
They have totally corrupted your Space Program, with their nosy noses
and interference in Men Only Places, so do not expect to build an
Enterprise in your future. Most you will manage is something similar
to a shopping trolley that will malfunction half way to Mars!!!!
That is what you get when you let silly girls try to do the Men's
work.
They have corrupted your Sport, your Justice, your Politics, your
Music, your Religions, your Health, your bodies, your Langauge and
even your PLEASURE!!!
You think what you have is Pleasure???
Oh HA HA HA!
The BORG
Nov 1, 2015, 7:50:14 PM11/1/15
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But do not worry.
All feminist women do get very seriously punished.
If you want to use your phrase "sent to Hell" then that is pretty much
it . Although it is worse than anything you could possibly imagine.
That Sylvia woman will not like where she goes when she drops dead one
day and has to pay the Price for interfering with Male Dominance and
interfering in Men Only Domains.
And then when she is reborn back onto Earth she will be a very, very
timid little mouse who will do everything the Men say and she will
never be disobedient or feminist again.
That will happen to ALL the feminist and disobedient women and one day
Earth will be the way it should be.
With the MEN in charge.
All feminist women do get very seriously punished.
If you want to use your phrase "sent to Hell" then that is pretty much
it . Although it is worse than anything you could possibly imagine.
That Sylvia woman will not like where she goes when she drops dead one
day and has to pay the Price for interfering with Male Dominance and
interfering in Men Only Domains.
And then when she is reborn back onto Earth she will be a very, very
timid little mouse who will do everything the Men say and she will
never be disobedient or feminist again.
That will happen to ALL the feminist and disobedient women and one day
Earth will be the way it should be.
With the MEN in charge.
Sylvia Else
Nov 1, 2015, 7:53:16 PM11/1/15
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On 2/11/2015 11:41 AM, The BORG wrote:
<snipped>
Sheesh! Is the art of trolling completely dead? I mean, this one was so
obvious it was embarrassing.
Sylvia.
<snipped>
Sheesh! Is the art of trolling completely dead? I mean, this one was so
obvious it was embarrassing.
Sylvia.
The BORG
Nov 1, 2015, 7:59:45 PM11/1/15
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The women also get punished for abortion, for showing any nakedness in
public, for any public shows of their hygiene products, for any
violence or verbal abuse or neglect of any children, for any rudeness
or disrespect or disobedience shown toward any of the Men and for any
other bad things they do.
You may have noticed that already there are some very timid shy girls
who would not say boo to a goose?
They have already been throught the Process.
And one day ALL the women will be like that.
And then Earth will be Paradise again and all the suffering and
ugliness that the women caused will be gone.
It is just a matter of passing them through the System and then they
get their punishments and then after that when they are reborn back
onto Earth then they are OK.
The Men have to suffer a while longer, because ALL the suffering on
Earth is because of the women who are out of order and out of place.
But one day, the suffering and bad times will be over.
And the women will all be good and obedient and they will not cause a
problem any more.
And then the Men can continue into the Future as they are supposed to
with any women interfering with what they do.
public, for any public shows of their hygiene products, for any
violence or verbal abuse or neglect of any children, for any rudeness
or disrespect or disobedience shown toward any of the Men and for any
other bad things they do.
You may have noticed that already there are some very timid shy girls
who would not say boo to a goose?
They have already been throught the Process.
And one day ALL the women will be like that.
And then Earth will be Paradise again and all the suffering and
ugliness that the women caused will be gone.
It is just a matter of passing them through the System and then they
get their punishments and then after that when they are reborn back
onto Earth then they are OK.
The Men have to suffer a while longer, because ALL the suffering on
Earth is because of the women who are out of order and out of place.
But one day, the suffering and bad times will be over.
And the women will all be good and obedient and they will not cause a
problem any more.
And then the Men can continue into the Future as they are supposed to
with any women interfering with what they do.
The BORG
Nov 1, 2015, 8:02:26 PM11/1/15
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It will take a while to filter them all through because every single
sperm is a potential human being so we do have to do through quite a
considerable number of women before they all get done.
And some of course will be victims of abortion.
But eventually they will not be a problem any more and they will be
very thankful to be doing the washing and cleaning and scrubbing
floors as they are supposed to.
They will find that kind of thing a big improvement to Hell.
sperm is a potential human being so we do have to do through quite a
considerable number of women before they all get done.
And some of course will be victims of abortion.
But eventually they will not be a problem any more and they will be
very thankful to be doing the washing and cleaning and scrubbing
floors as they are supposed to.
They will find that kind of thing a big improvement to Hell.
The BORG
Nov 1, 2015, 8:06:15 PM11/1/15
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Although where they go to pay the Price for their Evil and Sins is far
worse than Hell.
It is much worse than anything you could imagine.
In the same way that Heaven is far more beautiful than anything you
could possibly imagine.
And you can be sure you won't find any bitches in Heaven.
And you won't find any Men in Hell.
All the Men of Earth are suffering BECAUSE of the women.
And that is NOT fair.
worse than Hell.
It is much worse than anything you could imagine.
In the same way that Heaven is far more beautiful than anything you
could possibly imagine.
And you can be sure you won't find any bitches in Heaven.
And you won't find any Men in Hell.
All the Men of Earth are suffering BECAUSE of the women.
And that is NOT fair.
The BORG
Nov 1, 2015, 8:22:42 PM11/1/15
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But do not worry, we will fix it and one day all the women will be
submissive and compliant and obedient and you will not have a problem
with them any more.
They just have to go through the Process so each one has to be born,
and then she does her Evil and Sins and then she goes to the place
much worse than Hell to be punished and then after that she is not a
problem any more.
And then they will be your servants as they are supposed to be and the
Men can get on with Art and Music and other Men's Professions as they
are supposed to without those stupid women interfering.
And then the Men will find the Good and Beautiful things in the Future
and the women will not be around to ruin them or damage them or
corrupt them.
You cannot change the Way things are Meant to be.
You cannot change the Order and Design of Life.
And if women interfere with that, then they have to be dealt with.
And it is because of their interference that you do have all the
misery and ugliness and suffering that you have on Earth.
Even old age and death.
You can live for ever and be for ever young you know.
You do not have to have bad health and rotten teeth and cancer and
bacteria and germs. All those things come from the interference of
the women.
But one day Earth will be Good again.
And the suffering and bad times will be over.
But the women have to be dealt with first.
submissive and compliant and obedient and you will not have a problem
with them any more.
They just have to go through the Process so each one has to be born,
and then she does her Evil and Sins and then she goes to the place
much worse than Hell to be punished and then after that she is not a
problem any more.
And then they will be your servants as they are supposed to be and the
Men can get on with Art and Music and other Men's Professions as they
are supposed to without those stupid women interfering.
And then the Men will find the Good and Beautiful things in the Future
and the women will not be around to ruin them or damage them or
corrupt them.
You cannot change the Way things are Meant to be.
You cannot change the Order and Design of Life.
And if women interfere with that, then they have to be dealt with.
And it is because of their interference that you do have all the
misery and ugliness and suffering that you have on Earth.
Even old age and death.
You can live for ever and be for ever young you know.
You do not have to have bad health and rotten teeth and cancer and
bacteria and germs. All those things come from the interference of
the women.
But one day Earth will be Good again.
And the suffering and bad times will be over.
But the women have to be dealt with first.
The BORG
Nov 1, 2015, 8:43:17 PM11/1/15
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Some Men have asked about Heaven.
Well there is not just one Heaven, there are different Heavens to suit
different kinds of Men.
For example Elves are very different to Earthmen, so their version of
Heaven would be different to Earthmen. Different songs, different
music, different food, different atmosphere.
But in Truth your World should be your Heaven.
If you never die and are always young and in good health and if you
have beautiful surroundings and wonderful music and good and
interesting professions and interests and careers and people sing and
are happy then your World is your Heaven.
And that is what Earth SHOULD be.
In other words, that is NORMAL.
The reason Earth is NOT your Heaven, is because of the women.
Men are ALWAYS Dominant and they are ALWAYS in charge, and if women
interfere with that, then the whole thing Fails and collapses and you
get the terrible place that Earth is today where you can only dream of
places like Heaven.
But it is the women who are to blame.
And the Men are suffering because of the women.
One day when things start to return to normal and you start to see the
colours and beauty and light the way they are meant to be, when you
hear beautiful music and songs the way they should be, when the food
and drink is good and not foul or corrupted any more, THEN you will
begin to see just how much damage the women did and how much ugliness
and suffering they caused when they interfered with the Harmony and
with the Balance and Order of Life.
And if Earthmen cannot sort this out, and there is no God or Allah,
then you may get some help from some friendly Extra Terrestrials such
as The BORG.
It is terrible to live in such filthy and foul conditions such as you
have on Earth. Songs and Music that hardly make you want to Sing as
soon as you wake up in the morning.
How many of you say how Wonderful it is to be alive?
How many of you give thanks for each wonderful day?
It is terrible to have old age and death and pain.
And you do not have to have those things you know.
You only have those things because the women have gone against the Way
things are Meant to Be.
But one day, when things are the Way they are Meant to be once more,
then you will live in Heaven, because your World will be your Heaven.
Same as it is for everyone else.
And you will not want to die and you will not want to live anywhere
else.
That is NORMAL.
That is how people LIVE.
And if it is the women who are to blame, then it is the women who have
to be dealt with.
Well there is not just one Heaven, there are different Heavens to suit
different kinds of Men.
For example Elves are very different to Earthmen, so their version of
Heaven would be different to Earthmen. Different songs, different
music, different food, different atmosphere.
But in Truth your World should be your Heaven.
If you never die and are always young and in good health and if you
have beautiful surroundings and wonderful music and good and
interesting professions and interests and careers and people sing and
are happy then your World is your Heaven.
And that is what Earth SHOULD be.
In other words, that is NORMAL.
The reason Earth is NOT your Heaven, is because of the women.
Men are ALWAYS Dominant and they are ALWAYS in charge, and if women
interfere with that, then the whole thing Fails and collapses and you
get the terrible place that Earth is today where you can only dream of
places like Heaven.
But it is the women who are to blame.
And the Men are suffering because of the women.
One day when things start to return to normal and you start to see the
colours and beauty and light the way they are meant to be, when you
hear beautiful music and songs the way they should be, when the food
and drink is good and not foul or corrupted any more, THEN you will
begin to see just how much damage the women did and how much ugliness
and suffering they caused when they interfered with the Harmony and
with the Balance and Order of Life.
And if Earthmen cannot sort this out, and there is no God or Allah,
then you may get some help from some friendly Extra Terrestrials such
as The BORG.
It is terrible to live in such filthy and foul conditions such as you
have on Earth. Songs and Music that hardly make you want to Sing as
soon as you wake up in the morning.
How many of you say how Wonderful it is to be alive?
How many of you give thanks for each wonderful day?
It is terrible to have old age and death and pain.
And you do not have to have those things you know.
You only have those things because the women have gone against the Way
things are Meant to Be.
But one day, when things are the Way they are Meant to be once more,
then you will live in Heaven, because your World will be your Heaven.
Same as it is for everyone else.
And you will not want to die and you will not want to live anywhere
else.
That is NORMAL.
That is how people LIVE.
And if it is the women who are to blame, then it is the women who have
to be dealt with.
The BORG
Nov 1, 2015, 9:08:31 PM11/1/15
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People everywhere are happy.
People everywhere are glad to be alive.
They live in different worlds, some where it is Christmas every day
some where every day is the First Day of Spring.
Whatever makes them happy.
They sing and have wonderful music and they say the right words at the
right time, and they live in a Perfect Harmony with the other people
on their world.
If there are any women there, the women also live in the Harmony and
they must NOT interfere with it or damage it. The moment they do
something like that, you wil have breakages, accidents, crashes, or
ugliness and suffering will start, and then things will get out of
order until you have what you have on Earth today.
People do not have ugly religions with crucifixes and blood and things
like that. People believe because of all the wonderful things they
have and somehow their belief explains where those things come from.
If any people do have problems, then Angels may come and help them or
Extra Terrestrials such as The BORG, and let's face it, Earth has
serious problems.
The women are so bad and so Evil. Do you think there is anywhere else
where women kill their children before they are even BORN?
Do you think there is anywhere else were women smack and hit their
children and verbally abuse them or neglect them the way that Earth
women do?
Do you think there is anywhere else where a son would not have a
Father?
The women of Earth are REALLY Bad.
And they must be dealt with.
And because they are so bad that is why you do have such horrible
things such as maggots and insects and flies and cockroaches and fleas
and all kinds of nasty and horrible things that come from the women.
And THAT is why the Men MUST always be in charge so that you do not
have those things.
Life on Earth today, with all the misery and suffering, is what
happens when the women interfere with that.
And all the Men are suffering BECAUSE of the women.
You think Science is the answer?
You will not think so when you live in Heaven once more.
There is no possible scientific explanation for that kind of thing or
for that kind of place. The wonders and miracles that happen, simply
have no explanation of that kind.
And that is why people believe.
But they do not have ghastly horrible religions like you have on
Earth, they believe because things are so wonderful and because things
are so beautiful, and their belief is the only way they can explain
it.
And one day you will be like that as well.
So put away your Science.
Forget big bangs and ugly words like universe.
Ignore the ugly religions and bad words and bad teachings that come
from there.
And Believe in the Future.
That things CAN be right and they CAN Be good.
And Life CAN be a wonderful thing.
It is just a matter of dealing with the women.
People everywhere are glad to be alive.
They live in different worlds, some where it is Christmas every day
some where every day is the First Day of Spring.
Whatever makes them happy.
They sing and have wonderful music and they say the right words at the
right time, and they live in a Perfect Harmony with the other people
on their world.
If there are any women there, the women also live in the Harmony and
they must NOT interfere with it or damage it. The moment they do
something like that, you wil have breakages, accidents, crashes, or
ugliness and suffering will start, and then things will get out of
order until you have what you have on Earth today.
People do not have ugly religions with crucifixes and blood and things
like that. People believe because of all the wonderful things they
have and somehow their belief explains where those things come from.
If any people do have problems, then Angels may come and help them or
Extra Terrestrials such as The BORG, and let's face it, Earth has
serious problems.
The women are so bad and so Evil. Do you think there is anywhere else
where women kill their children before they are even BORN?
Do you think there is anywhere else were women smack and hit their
children and verbally abuse them or neglect them the way that Earth
women do?
Do you think there is anywhere else where a son would not have a
Father?
The women of Earth are REALLY Bad.
And they must be dealt with.
And because they are so bad that is why you do have such horrible
things such as maggots and insects and flies and cockroaches and fleas
and all kinds of nasty and horrible things that come from the women.
And THAT is why the Men MUST always be in charge so that you do not
have those things.
Life on Earth today, with all the misery and suffering, is what
happens when the women interfere with that.
And all the Men are suffering BECAUSE of the women.
You think Science is the answer?
You will not think so when you live in Heaven once more.
There is no possible scientific explanation for that kind of thing or
for that kind of place. The wonders and miracles that happen, simply
have no explanation of that kind.
And that is why people believe.
But they do not have ghastly horrible religions like you have on
Earth, they believe because things are so wonderful and because things
are so beautiful, and their belief is the only way they can explain
it.
And one day you will be like that as well.
So put away your Science.
Forget big bangs and ugly words like universe.
Ignore the ugly religions and bad words and bad teachings that come
from there.
And Believe in the Future.
That things CAN be right and they CAN Be good.
And Life CAN be a wonderful thing.
It is just a matter of dealing with the women.
The BORG
Nov 1, 2015, 9:23:56 PM11/1/15
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It is Men who are the Dreamers.
It is Men who have the Vision.
But what Dreams do the Men of Earth have today?
Marriage and mortgage and kids - is that it?
Is that LIFE?
Is that what the women have done?
It is the Men's Dreams of the Future that MAKE the Future.
It is the Men's Vision that makes where they live into Heaven.
But if women demean them and threaten them and interfere with their
Dominance, then what do you have?
Cancer, leprosy, chicken pox, kidney failure, rotten teeth?
What kind of Dream is that?
What kind of Vision?
Those kind of things come from the women.
Women can share what the Men have, they can ever share the Heaven
where they live, but there are Rules.
And because it is the Men who MAKE Heaven and keep Heaven going and
Sing the right Songs and Say the right Words and Find the right Future
then the women MUST not interfere with that.
The moment they start to interfere then the suffering starts.
Ugliness, darkness, corruptions, illness, bad health, breakages,
accidents, things get out of order and out of place. The Perfect
Harmony is effected.
And the more they interfere, the worse it gets.
And one day when you do see the Beauty that surrounds you, which is
the way it is Meant to Be, then you will remember for how long you
lived in such horrible conditons and how much you suffered.
And you will know that ALL your suffering was because of the women.
Will you thank them?
Wil you love them?
Will you sing your songs to them now that you have seen their
nakedness and their rudeness and their violence and crude, ugly ways.
Now that you have seen their piles and piles of millions and millions
of abortions and unwanted children that they killed before they were
even born?
Will you love them then for all the Lost time when you could have been
in Paradise?
When you did not have to suffer at all?
It is Men who have the Vision.
But what Dreams do the Men of Earth have today?
Marriage and mortgage and kids - is that it?
Is that LIFE?
Is that what the women have done?
It is the Men's Dreams of the Future that MAKE the Future.
It is the Men's Vision that makes where they live into Heaven.
But if women demean them and threaten them and interfere with their
Dominance, then what do you have?
Cancer, leprosy, chicken pox, kidney failure, rotten teeth?
What kind of Dream is that?
What kind of Vision?
Those kind of things come from the women.
Women can share what the Men have, they can ever share the Heaven
where they live, but there are Rules.
And because it is the Men who MAKE Heaven and keep Heaven going and
Sing the right Songs and Say the right Words and Find the right Future
then the women MUST not interfere with that.
The moment they start to interfere then the suffering starts.
Ugliness, darkness, corruptions, illness, bad health, breakages,
accidents, things get out of order and out of place. The Perfect
Harmony is effected.
And the more they interfere, the worse it gets.
And one day when you do see the Beauty that surrounds you, which is
the way it is Meant to Be, then you will remember for how long you
lived in such horrible conditons and how much you suffered.
And you will know that ALL your suffering was because of the women.
Will you thank them?
Wil you love them?
Will you sing your songs to them now that you have seen their
nakedness and their rudeness and their violence and crude, ugly ways.
Now that you have seen their piles and piles of millions and millions
of abortions and unwanted children that they killed before they were
even born?
Will you love them then for all the Lost time when you could have been
in Paradise?
When you did not have to suffer at all?
The BORG
Nov 1, 2015, 9:38:48 PM11/1/15
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The BORG are loved by everyone.
We are far more powerful than any God or Allah or anyone else.
We are all grown men and we have no women or children.
But one thing we do, is we help people when they suffer.
And we always get it right.
WE find the CAUSE and then we find the SOLUTION and then we monitor
the people for a while to make sure they are OK.
And once they have got Heaven going again and the rhythm and songs and
music are back, and the Men are saying the Right words and doing the
Right things then we leave them.
Chances of anything like that happening again are very remote.
We have never known any people who suffered TWICE.
And after something like this, the people really APPRECIATE what they
have so much more.
The Men will write beautiful songs and music about the world around
them and about how wonderful life is, for sure.
Let us hope the women appreciate it and do not stick their noses into
Men's Affairs again and do not try to do what Men do, and do not for
one moment think that they can DO Heaven as well as the Men or better
than the Men can, because Life on Earth today is what the women did
and what the women produced and that is hardly Heaven is it?
And the Men of Earth will learn from this and they also will learn WHY
it is, that Men are ALWAYS in charge.
None of the Men had to suffer at all. The women were totally to
blame.
We are far more powerful than any God or Allah or anyone else.
We are all grown men and we have no women or children.
But one thing we do, is we help people when they suffer.
And we always get it right.
WE find the CAUSE and then we find the SOLUTION and then we monitor
the people for a while to make sure they are OK.
And once they have got Heaven going again and the rhythm and songs and
music are back, and the Men are saying the Right words and doing the
Right things then we leave them.
Chances of anything like that happening again are very remote.
We have never known any people who suffered TWICE.
And after something like this, the people really APPRECIATE what they
have so much more.
The Men will write beautiful songs and music about the world around
them and about how wonderful life is, for sure.
Let us hope the women appreciate it and do not stick their noses into
Men's Affairs again and do not try to do what Men do, and do not for
one moment think that they can DO Heaven as well as the Men or better
than the Men can, because Life on Earth today is what the women did
and what the women produced and that is hardly Heaven is it?
And the Men of Earth will learn from this and they also will learn WHY
it is, that Men are ALWAYS in charge.
None of the Men had to suffer at all. The women were totally to
blame.
The BORG
Nov 1, 2015, 9:56:37 PM11/1/15
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It is our decision as to whether we allow the women to continue to
live with Men, or whether we move them to a woman only world, where
they can do their pushy bossy violent bitchy stuff to each other and
be rude and crude and ugly somewhere else where no one has to watch.
And then they will not be able to kill their sons before they are even
born and they will not be able to hit them or smack them or neglect
them any more.
And then the Men can live in Peace.
And they can live in Heaven for ever with no Fear of any women ruining
it again.
And that is in fact what we are doing right now.
When women die, they are moved to a woman only world, and they are
BANNED from seeing a Man EVER AGAIN.
So one day there will be no more women on Earth.
And do not thank God for that, thank The BORG.
Although in Truth we really are God, but God is such a small word for
such a BIG thing.
There are Billions of us and each one has the Power of God.
So the word God is rather small for something so MASSIVE don't you
think?
We would prefer you called us The BORG rather than God or Allah, if
you wouldn't mind.
live with Men, or whether we move them to a woman only world, where
they can do their pushy bossy violent bitchy stuff to each other and
be rude and crude and ugly somewhere else where no one has to watch.
And then they will not be able to kill their sons before they are even
born and they will not be able to hit them or smack them or neglect
them any more.
And then the Men can live in Peace.
And they can live in Heaven for ever with no Fear of any women ruining
it again.
And that is in fact what we are doing right now.
When women die, they are moved to a woman only world, and they are
BANNED from seeing a Man EVER AGAIN.
So one day there will be no more women on Earth.
And do not thank God for that, thank The BORG.
Although in Truth we really are God, but God is such a small word for
such a BIG thing.
There are Billions of us and each one has the Power of God.
So the word God is rather small for something so MASSIVE don't you
think?
We would prefer you called us The BORG rather than God or Allah, if
you wouldn't mind.
The BORG
Nov 1, 2015, 10:18:20 PM11/1/15
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The Men will feel much better once they are gone.
All the friction and animosity and hate will stop.
And all the corruptions and filth and diseases will clear up.
And then you can have Peace and Harmony once again, as you once had
before. Before the women ruined it.
We will arrange a new System so that you can have Sons in a nice clean
way and there will be no women around to kill them or smack them or
abuse them or ruin them before they even reach the age of 5.
And then you will live in Heaven for ever and have Eternal Life and
Eternal youth. No more bad health or diseases or rotten teeth.
You will see all the Men who have died once again, they do live on you
know. And you will all be young and in your Prime.
And one day all the women will be gone and they will be in their women
only world and the men will live on for ever in Heaven.
And Heaven will go on forever as there will be no women around to
destroy it again.
Into a wonderful Future full of wonderful things that the women will
not be able to ruin or corrupt or damage.
You say nothing is stronger than the Will of God, but how many God are
there? There are so many of us, that one Will does seem rather puny.
The women will of course have to PAY for their Sins, and when they are
in their women only world they will have for ever to contemplate on
why it is that they will never see a Man ever again.
All the friction and animosity and hate will stop.
And all the corruptions and filth and diseases will clear up.
And then you can have Peace and Harmony once again, as you once had
before. Before the women ruined it.
We will arrange a new System so that you can have Sons in a nice clean
way and there will be no women around to kill them or smack them or
abuse them or ruin them before they even reach the age of 5.
And then you will live in Heaven for ever and have Eternal Life and
Eternal youth. No more bad health or diseases or rotten teeth.
You will see all the Men who have died once again, they do live on you
know. And you will all be young and in your Prime.
And one day all the women will be gone and they will be in their women
only world and the men will live on for ever in Heaven.
And Heaven will go on forever as there will be no women around to
destroy it again.
Into a wonderful Future full of wonderful things that the women will
not be able to ruin or corrupt or damage.
You say nothing is stronger than the Will of God, but how many God are
there? There are so many of us, that one Will does seem rather puny.
The women will of course have to PAY for their Sins, and when they are
in their women only world they will have for ever to contemplate on
why it is that they will never see a Man ever again.
The BORG
Nov 1, 2015, 10:26:27 PM11/1/15
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This is already in Progress.
There are already millions and millions of women in their women only
world.
They hope and hope that one day among the new women who arrive that
ONE may be a Man, but that never happens.
Already they feel a longing and yearning to see a Man, but they all
know perfectly well why it is that they are banned from seeing a Man
ever again.
They all have to be vegetarain as there are no animals or birds or
fish on their world, and there is no electric.
No one is interested in them and they live their alone.
It always was about the Men.
Their Music, their Art, their Intelligence, their Literature, their
Inventions, their Humour.
It never was about the women.
The women were there to help the Men and do their cooking and cleaning
and washing for them, that was all.
They were supposed to encourge them and support them, not denigrate
them and vie with them and destroy them.
They were companions or servants that was all, and they called the Men
"Sir" and they were always totally obedient.
As long as they did their women's work and were polite and obedient to
the Men then they could share Heaven with the Men.
But not any more.
Women are finished.
We have had quite enough of them.
There are already millions and millions of women in their women only
world.
They hope and hope that one day among the new women who arrive that
ONE may be a Man, but that never happens.
Already they feel a longing and yearning to see a Man, but they all
know perfectly well why it is that they are banned from seeing a Man
ever again.
They all have to be vegetarain as there are no animals or birds or
fish on their world, and there is no electric.
No one is interested in them and they live their alone.
It always was about the Men.
Their Music, their Art, their Intelligence, their Literature, their
Inventions, their Humour.
It never was about the women.
The women were there to help the Men and do their cooking and cleaning
and washing for them, that was all.
They were supposed to encourge them and support them, not denigrate
them and vie with them and destroy them.
They were companions or servants that was all, and they called the Men
"Sir" and they were always totally obedient.
As long as they did their women's work and were polite and obedient to
the Men then they could share Heaven with the Men.
But not any more.
Women are finished.
We have had quite enough of them.
bil...@m.nu
Nov 1, 2015, 10:35:40 PM11/1/15
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On Mon, 02 Nov 2015 02:56:33 +0000, The BORG <bo...@future.com> wrote:
>It i
how many people do you think read all of that crap?
>It i
how many people do you think read all of that crap?
The BORG
Nov 1, 2015, 10:36:23 PM11/1/15
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It is quite funny really because they arrrive in the clothes that they
died in, and the women get very exited when some women arrive in
police uniforms or army uniforms, they think and hope that they may be
Men.
But when they find out that they are women, they are hugely
dissapointed and they really can see the difference.
And they really can see how absoltuely stupid women look when they
dress up in Men's uniforms and Men's clothes and how that kind of
thing really does only suit Men.
We feel no pity for them at all.
And it will take easily one thousand years for the Men to get over
their violence and verbal abuse and the damage the women did to their
Pride and other things, not only when they were boys but as adults as
well.
And then men will have to be reborn several times over to become tall
and strong and healthy again. Some have become decrepit or short or
deformed.
The negativity and abuse of the women did do a lot of damge to the
Men.
They were all but destroyed really.
Just as well their Saviours did come.
died in, and the women get very exited when some women arrive in
police uniforms or army uniforms, they think and hope that they may be
Men.
But when they find out that they are women, they are hugely
dissapointed and they really can see the difference.
And they really can see how absoltuely stupid women look when they
dress up in Men's uniforms and Men's clothes and how that kind of
thing really does only suit Men.
We feel no pity for them at all.
And it will take easily one thousand years for the Men to get over
their violence and verbal abuse and the damage the women did to their
Pride and other things, not only when they were boys but as adults as
well.
And then men will have to be reborn several times over to become tall
and strong and healthy again. Some have become decrepit or short or
deformed.
The negativity and abuse of the women did do a lot of damge to the
Men.
They were all but destroyed really.
Just as well their Saviours did come.
Bob Casanova
Nov 2, 2015, 1:28:31 PM11/2/15
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On Mon, 02 Nov 2015 00:26:48 +0000, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by The BORG <bo...@future.com>:
>Look at this idiot woman...
>
>...they try to do Men's things.
<snippity PLONK>
HARCL.
in sci.skeptic, posted by The BORG <bo...@future.com>:
>Look at this idiot woman...
>
>...they try to do Men's things.
<snippity PLONK>
HARCL.
Bob Casanova
Nov 2, 2015, 1:30:23 PM11/2/15
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On Sun, 01 Nov 2015 21:35:18 -0600, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by bil...@m.nu:
>On Mon, 02 Nov 2015 02:56:33 +0000, The BORG <bo...@future.com> wrote:
>>It i
>how many people do you think read all of that crap?
Possibly quite a few, the same ones who'll drive miles to
see (other) train wrecks.
Killfiles are Your Friends... ;-)
in sci.skeptic, posted by bil...@m.nu:
>On Mon, 02 Nov 2015 02:56:33 +0000, The BORG <bo...@future.com> wrote:
>>It i
>how many people do you think read all of that crap?
see (other) train wrecks.
Killfiles are Your Friends... ;-)
bil...@m.nu
Nov 2, 2015, 3:23:48 PM11/2/15
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On Mon, 02 Nov 2015 11:30:22 -0700, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off>
wrote:
point taken..... Killfile engaged
wrote:
Bob Casanova
Nov 3, 2015, 12:32:03 PM11/3/15
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On Mon, 02 Nov 2015 14:23:46 -0600, the following appeared
--
Bob C.
"The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
- Isaac Asimov
in sci.skeptic, posted by bil...@m.nu:
>On Mon, 02 Nov 2015 11:30:22 -0700, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 01 Nov 2015 21:35:18 -0600, the following appeared
>>in sci.skeptic, posted by bil...@m.nu:
>>
>>>On Mon, 02 Nov 2015 02:56:33 +0000, The BORG <bo...@future.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>It i
>>
>>>how many people do you think read all of that crap?
>>
>>Possibly quite a few, the same ones who'll drive miles to
>>see (other) train wrecks.
>>
>>Killfiles are Your Friends... ;-)
>
>point taken..... Killfile engaged
Wise decision... ;-)
>On Mon, 02 Nov 2015 11:30:22 -0700, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 01 Nov 2015 21:35:18 -0600, the following appeared
>>in sci.skeptic, posted by bil...@m.nu:
>>
>>>On Mon, 02 Nov 2015 02:56:33 +0000, The BORG <bo...@future.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>It i
>>
>>>how many people do you think read all of that crap?
>>
>>Possibly quite a few, the same ones who'll drive miles to
>>see (other) train wrecks.
>>
>>Killfiles are Your Friends... ;-)
>
>point taken..... Killfile engaged
--
Bob C.
"The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
- Isaac Asimov
lucaspa
Nov 3, 2015, 1:36:09 PM11/3/15
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On Friday, October 30, 2015 at 10:55:01 PM UTC-4, Dale wrote:
> a theory is a testable hypothesis
Hypotheses are testable, too. Look at peer-reviewed papers. The last couple sentences of the Introduction contain the hypothesis of the paper. Very often the authors say "we hypothesize that ..." The rest of the paper is the TEST of that hypothesis.
> a theory is a testable hypothesis
Some statements labeled theories are not testable. For instance, Hawking's No Boundary is not testable. Neither is Everett's Many Worlds theory.
Sorry, but there is no hierarchy of certainty between hypothesis and theory. The difference is, as I said, is about how specific or how general they are.
lucaspa
Nov 3, 2015, 1:42:00 PM11/3/15
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BTW, have you ever heard of Marie Curie, Dame Honor Fell, Rosalind Franklin, Maureen Owen? Of course not. You know nothing of science.
lucaspa
Nov 3, 2015, 1:43:51 PM11/3/15
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