Anger and Weakness
IKnowHimDoYou- A.
Some have written that, as a Christian. we must always present our case in
love and I certainly agree with that. However, sometimes real love needs
to take a different tack in order to make the needed change called for.
As an example:
Let us say you are having some health difficulties and you seek a
physician's help. He runs some tests and tells you that you have terminal
cancer. He also tells you that there is no cure and prescibes some pain
killers and advises you to go home and wait for the end. This does not
sound very good so you seek a second opinion. The next physician confirms
the first diagnosis. He tells you that he is an experienced cancer
surgeon. He also tells you that if he could get you on the operating
table right away he might be able to save your life.
Which physician would you prefer or trust with his prognosis?
It is the same with salvation and the gospel. We are not here as
Christians to reform people with love and tenderness. We are here to
rescue the dying and let God regenerate them into new life. This is not a
game of false love trying to tell them to take a pill and all will be
well. That is the beautiful lie that is passed around at the liberal
churches of today with millions going to eternal damnation due to the lack
of the Truth being told. God does not speak with a forked tongue. He
tells us the Truth as it is;
"He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life:
He that believeth not the Son shall not see life;
but the wrath of God abideth on him." John 10:10
There remains very little time. Suck it up and get moving. Millions are
going to hell. We must reach as many as possible....that is the real love
of God.
DOC WATSON
(IKnowHimDoYou- A.) said the following funny stuff in this here little
old new 'froup:
AMEN to that. And unfortunately, there are some who only respond to
harsh rebukes.
They may make all the false claims they like about us being
'unchristian for speaking harshly when it comes to lies and false
teachings - when a soul is on the line, sometimes the harsh words will
get their attention faster than the 'sweetness and light' approach.
Some people refuse to listen to anything said in love, but instead,
respond more favorably to a harsh rebuke.
God bless you & yours.
Doc
--
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Sign in feudin' homestead: "Friends Welcome. Relatives by Appointment.!"
Thurisaz the Einherjer
> Anger and Weakness
are what fundie twits like I-know-SHIT feel every single second. Anger at
those who are able to enjoy their lives without being locked up behind the
bars of idiocy, and weakness because they know they have nothing to back up
their fairy tales with.
--
Romans 2:24 revised:
"For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you
cretinists, as it is written on aig."
Dick Head
Fuck you, Watson. Respond to that.
Dick
Eeyore
That seems to be the case with most Christians. It is not Jesus that is
at fault here but the buckets of shite that have been written about him
since his execution starting with the god awful serial killer Paul of
Tarsus who remoulded himself into a fake apostle and ended up - largely
posthumously - running the show.
Christians simply fail to recognise the obvious distinction between any
likely realistic image of a historical Jesus and the Pauline and post
Pauline fraud. They then expect that others who have a little more common
sense will follow their error. The first appeal is to the emotions ,but
eventually it always ends up in Christians seeking to bully the "infidels"
into submission in a manner that is horribly similar to what they
justifiably accuse Islamic Fundamentalists of doing
The first action anyone must carry out in seeking converts is to put his
own house in order. This for Christianity means ripping out the entire
garbage of Pauline theology. Dysfunctional concepts such as Atonement
theology simply have to go - the old mantra that "Jesus died for our sins"
in realistic terms is nonsense. It is based on a totally antiquated
near-pagan view of the Godhead.
With it must go the demons, the healing frauds ,and the turkey gobbling of
Glossolallia, the phoney "spiritual gifts" of New Age Born Again pseudo
occultism that have crept into Christianity
It is a big job - shedding the wreckage of the past - the chorus lines of
singing angels, the worshipping Zoroastran magicians, the Virgin Birth,
the risen saints wandering through Jerusalems streets after an earthquake,
the curtain rent in twain, and all that garbage
But you must do that job before you can really expect to convince others.
Most of the old hymns have to go, many the product of Nineteenth Century
racism and European Imperialism
> They may make all the false claims they like about us being
> 'unchristian for speaking harshly when it comes to lies and false
> teachings - when a soul is on the line, sometimes the harsh words will
> get their attention faster than the 'sweetness and light' approach.
> Some people refuse to listen to anything said in love, but instead,
> respond more favorably to a harsh rebuke.
So try the rebuke for size yourself and see how it feels
Doc - I am sorry but in the religious sense you are wallowing in
unreasoned nonsense. You make NO realistic attempt to understand and
dissect the theology that dominates you and which you seek to promulgate.
You try to ram false and ridiculous notions derived from paganism of
Virgin Birth, demonic and satanic powers, atonement before and appeasement
of an angry deity through ancient human blood sacrifice and murder
You distort the reality of an ancient execution, seeking to turn what you
view (but actually wasn't)as a supernatural act into a cosmic war. Your
apparent belief that merely by believing in all this nonsense one can be
saved (whatever that means) is utterly ridiculous. You demand converts
accept as virtually inerrant an obvious factional and frequently racist
set of scriptural texts written in outdated imagery and largely fictional
in nature and written without any definite appeal to eye witnesses of the
events described
You appear to reject religious scholarship that is not based within the
prejudices of your faith thereby rejecting objectivity.
The hymns you sing are mostly rubbish from beginning to end, pious
platitudes devoid of realistic meaning that operate on the emotions by
tearing at the heart strings but have no real content and mostly awful
tunes - horrible dirges
All of this has nothing really to do with the likely nature of ANY
historical figure - let alone Jesus of Nazareth.
Non Christians and ex christians are truly sick of this nonsense that the
Christian Right - the most arrogant and pig ignorant faction Christianity
has ever seen - tries to force on people in part through seeking to hijack
the administration of the worlds greates nuclear super power. It is an
evil action that they are engaged and one destined to lead your nation and
the American dominated sphere of influence into accelerating disaster -
if it is not returned to the churches where the nuttier Christians can
rave as much as they like about coming apocalypses, nobody cares any
longer because it aint happening
Before anyone in their right mind will listen the crap in Christianity has
to stop. Jesus is abused when he is used as a bastion of nationalism and a
prop for the political economic structure of latter day capitalism. Jesus
was simply not about these matters
For me - forty five years ago it was simply all too much. I just had to
get away from a barrage of theological ideological and pious drivel.
Looking back forty years later Christianity has got worse instead of
better. As the bright ones have left the lunatics have taken over the
asylum and the voices of reason within the institutions of the churches
are threatened and cajoled to be silent by the howls of the ignorant and
the baying of the fascist hyenas of church heirarchies - the real wolves
in sheeps clothing.
More matter and less art - less ranting of drivel from the pulpit - wake
up, you have all been lulled into sleep for two thousand years. The great
Galileean has long since been betrayed by his supposed following through
the imposition of an idiotic and dysfunctional set of fables about his
message and his nature.
A biography is an attempt to understand a real person, to separate fact
from fiction. Most biographies start with an account of parentage and the
birth of the person.
Christianity needs to go one tiny step further - it is imbecilic that it
should be necessary but without it you have no real starting point. Jesus
got here because his parents had sexual intercourse like anyone else
There is your starting point - the same as yours or mine. Get over it - it
all started when Mary like any other mother opened her legs and made love
to her partner - who most likely was the man to whom she was betrothed.
(A bit of COMMON SENSE and NONE of this would be necessary!!!)
Kindest Regards
Truth is something you cannot pass on unless you first possess it, and
possess it courageously in the face of all opposition in Heaven and Hell
and on Earth.
++++++++++++++++++++
Eeyore
> IKnowHimDoYou- A. wrote:
>
> > Anger and Weakness
>
> are what fundie twits like I-know-SHIT feel every single second. Anger at
> those who are able to enjoy their lives without being locked up behind the
> bars of idiocy, and weakness because they know they have nothing to back up
> their fairy tales with.
>
Absolutely and good on you for saying it. I too was infuriated by this
arrogant post
It is the attempt of the little man to make himself look taller in his own
eyes - of the coward who cannot cope with reality to create a harmless
world of fantasy trials in which they can stand in their own judgement as
a man of courage - of the weak man who seeks a bully to protect him.
The mentality of the through and through squivelling little nazi - in fact
of the SS man who sooled his dog on the emaciated prisoners and the
vulnerable which his desired world had itself dragged down into the
condition in which he viewed them and treated them with contempt...
Rebuke enough?
There's more!
Eeyore
I agree
Doc, I too am genuinely annoyed here but I am sure we will get over it.
The bottom line is that people who do not believe in what you believe are
not being evil or disobedient - that is just MORE of the shite churches
teach you. Don't swallow it - don't inhale!
Many of us have been where you are now and moved on. We look on those
times as a time of ignorance and underdevelopment. We put aside the
childish things and grew up
IKH is trying to bully us into being juvenile again. I CANNOT do it. I
have seen what lies beyond the narrow religious view and I cannot return
to ignorance.
No it is NOT defiance - nor is it disobedience to God. It is a
recognition that no REAL God exists within the imbecilic world view of pre
modernist Christianity. It is all just so much archaic drivel - drivel
that could NOT contain a realistic omnipotent God
The world view of Born Again Christianity, of antiquated catholicism and
traditional Protestantism cannot contain or even describe a real
universe. It has failed in its function both in the physical and in the
spiritual world. It is over
Only the noise continues - the clamour of cymbals and brass, and the howls
of the ignorant.
+++++++++++++
Paul Duca
exhibit the former towards anyone they want.
Paul
Doc: The absent-minded-professor!
went and wrote as Gospel Truth in these here little old Usenet
News'FROUPS:
>
>> Fuck you, Watson. Respond to that.
>> Dick
>
>I agree
fine. Agree if you like, and goodbye.
IKnowHimDoYou- A.
absent-minded-professor!" <D...@Watson.yup> wrote:
___________________________________________________________
This poor lost soul says he, she, it is an jackass.
Are there any doubts?
Thurisaz the Einherjer
> Absolutely and good on you for saying it. I too was infuriated by this
> arrogant post
My pleasure to have entertained you ;)
DOC WATSON
(IKnowHimDoYou- A.) said the following funny stuff in this here little
old new 'froup:
>In article <g870n11h0oo3ps8ni...@4ax.com>, "Doc: The
hehhe! Who's the jackass- Eyeore, or me though? To whom do you refer?
!! LOL!
Alan D
DOC WATSON wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 08:35:04 -0800, IKno...@leavingsoon.com
> (IKnowHimDoYou- A.) said the following funny stuff in this here little
> old new 'froup:
>
> >In article <g870n11h0oo3ps8ni...@4ax.com>, "Doc: The
> >absent-minded-professor!" <D...@Watson.yup> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 09:09:14 +1100, Ho...@PoohCorner.com (Eeyore) done
> >> went and wrote as Gospel Truth in these here little old Usenet
> >> News'FROUPS:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >> Fuck you, Watson. Respond to that.
> >> >> Dick
> >> >
> >> >I agree
> >>
> >>
> >> fine. Agree if you like, and goodbye.
> >___________________________________________________________
> >
> >This poor lost soul says he, she, it is an jackass.
> >
> >Are there any doubts?
>
>
> hehhe! Who's the jackass- Eyeore, or me though? To whom do you refer?
> !! LOL!
Both sounds like a pretty good answer to me!
IKnowHimDoYou- A.
> On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 08:35:04 -0800, IKno...@leavingsoon.com
> (IKnowHimDoYou- A.) said the following funny stuff in this here little
> old new 'froup:
>
> >In article <g870n11h0oo3ps8ni...@4ax.com>, "Doc: The
> >absent-minded-professor!" <D...@Watson.yup> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 09:09:14 +1100, Ho...@PoohCorner.com (Eeyore) done
> >> went and wrote as Gospel Truth in these here little old Usenet
> >> News'FROUPS:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >> Fuck you, Watson. Respond to that.
> >> >> Dick
> >> >
> >> >I agree
> >>
> >>
> >> fine. Agree if you like, and goodbye.
> >___________________________________________________________
> >
> >This poor lost soul says he, she, it is an jackass.
> >
> >Are there any doubts?
>
>
> hehhe! Who's the jackass- Eyeore, or me though? To whom do you refer?
> !! LOL!
> --
>
_________________________________________________________________
Oh, I think you know I am describing the true foolish ass who is lost and
has the filthy mouth and mind.
DOC WATSON
Eeyore
IKno...@leavingsoon.com (IKnowHimDoYou- A.) wrote:
Thats your real level isn't it
Not good enough - By the way you misquote me - that wasn't my post
Mine were as follows:
++
That seems to be the case with most Christians. It is not Jesus that is
> They may make all the false claims they like about us being
> 'unchristian for speaking harshly when it comes to lies and false
> teachings - when a soul is on the line, sometimes the harsh words will
> get their attention faster than the 'sweetness and light' approach.
> Some people refuse to listen to anything said in love, but instead,
> respond more favorably to a harsh rebuke.
So try the rebuke for size yourself and see how it feels
Doc - I am sorry but in the religious sense you are wallowing in
unreasoned nonsense. You make NO realistic attempt to understand and
dissect the theology that dominates you and which you seek to promulgate.
You try to ram false and ridiculous notions derived from paganism of
Virgin Birth, demonic and satanic powers, atonement before and appeasement
of an angry deity through ancient human blood sacrifice and murder
You distort the reality of an ancient execution, seeking to turn what you
view (but actually wasn't)as a supernatural act into a cosmic war. Your
apparent belief that merely by believing in all this nonsense one can be
saved (whatever that means) is utterly ridiculous. You demand converts
accept as virtually inerrant an obvious factional and frequently racist
set of scriptural texts written in outdated imagery and largely fictional
in nature and written without any definite appeal to eye witnesses of the
events described
You appear to reject religious scholarship that is not based within the
Kindest Regards
++++++++++++++++++++
Doc, I too am genuinely annoyed here but I am sure we will get over it.
Eeyore
IKno...@leavingsoon.com (IKnowHimDoYou- A.) wrote:
> Oh, I think you know I am describing the true foolish ass who is lost and
> has the filthy mouth and mind.
Yourself no less
A Nazi masquerading as a Christian and only tolerated because the lunatics
have long since taken over the church asylum
Eeyore
> >_________________________________________________________________
> >
> >Oh, I think you know I am describing the true foolish ass who is lost and
> >has the filthy mouth and mind.
>
> okey-dokey. Just wondered :o)
> --
>
Nothing answered as usual - The denial mechanism comes into play - just as
with JW. Denial is what it is all about, denial of reason
The answer is Paulism - what it did to the religion of Jesus. The
neurosis that Christianity has become is largely the fault of this ancient
serial killer and his Damascus road lie.
Visited by the Risen Christ indeed!
Popycock, stuff and nonsense
A fable supported by two millenia of drivel! And Jesus himself nowhere to
be seen.
Tip Harris
"IKnowHimDoYou- A." <IKno...@leavingsoon.com> wrote in message news:IKnowHim-071...@pm4-24.kalama.com...
m...@nospam.com
the following funny stuff in this here little old news 'froup:
WELL SAID, Sir.
God bless you for your truthful comments.
--
May God bless :o)
galia
<m...@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:t90ds1t4oaghuiat7...@4ax.com...
Now put it into practice; we are all waiting!
m...@nospam.com
the following funny stuff in this here little old news 'froup:
>
>Now put it into practice; we are all waiting!
>
>
I HAVE been putting it into practice, in case you don't know. I TELL
IT LIKE IT IS, no holds barred. I refuse to molly-coddle.
For example, there is one [particular individual] here who uses curses
and threats, childish temper tantrums and phony self-righteous blather
in vain attempts to get his own way. I refuse to permit that
individual to fool me like he has obviously fooled some of you.... yet
you hate me with a passion BECAUSE I take such a stern stand against
his lies, aggravating mannerisms, arrogance, guttermouth, and idle
threats.
YOUR problem, dear, not mine.
THIS Christian will continue to point it out as necessary, too.
Let certain individuals falsely accuse me of 'lying', 'snipping and
running' or 'harassing' all they like.
I KNOW I am not.
>
--
If you ate today --- thank a FARMER.
May God bless :o)
IKnowHimDoYou- A.
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It is best not to suffer these fools.
It is like attempting to teach a pig to sing.
Simply ignore them and let their world beat them up...and it surely will...
m...@nospam.com
(IKnowHimDoYou- A.) said the following funny stuff in this here little
old news 'froup:
>
>It is best not to suffer these fools.
>
>It is like attempting to teach a pig to sing.
>
>Simply ignore them and let their world beat them up...and it surely will...
The problem is, whether I ignore 'em or not, I still get harassed and
falsely accused. So, NUTS!!! Let them rattle and rail, but yes, trying
to teach a pig to sing would make much more sense than trying to
educate these sloths.
They're beating themselves up daily anyhoo, it seems!!! :o)
Prometea
IKno...@leavingsoon.com (IKnowHimDoYou- A.) wrote:
> Simply ignore them and let their world beat them up...and it surely will...
In your case you should stop beating yourself up
You'll wear yourself out