OT: Water or Coke
sharon
WATER
1. 75% of Americans are chronically dehydrated. (Likely applies to half
world population.)
2. In 37% of Americans, the thirst mechanism is so weak that it is often
mistaken for hunger.
3. Even MILD dehydration will slow down one's metabolism as much as 3%.
4. One glass of water will shut down midnight hunger pangs for almost
100% of the dieters studied in a University of Washington study.
5. Lack of water, the #1 trigger of daytime fatigue.
6. Preliminary research indicates that 8-10 glasses of water a day could
significantly ease back and joint pain for up to 80% of sufferers.
7. A mere 2% drop in body water can trigger fuzzy short-term memory,
trouble with basic math, and difficulty focusing on the computer screen
or on a printed page.
8. Drinking 5 glasses of water daily decreases the risk of colon cancer
by 45%, plus it can slash the risk of breast cancer by 79%, and one is
50%less likely to develop bladder cancer. Are you drinking the amount of
water you should every day?
COKE
1. In many states (in the USA) the highway patrol carries two gallons of
Coke in the trunk to remove blood from the highway after a car accident.
2. You can put a T-bone steak in a bowl of coke and it will be gone in
two days.
3. To clean a toilet: Pour a can of Coca-Cola into the toilet bowl and
let the "real thing" sit for one hour, then flush clean. The citric acid
in Coke removes stains from vitreous china.
4. To remove rust spots from chrome car bumpers: Rub the bumper with a
rumpled-up piece of Reynolds Wrap aluminum foil dipped in Coca-Cola.
5. To clean corrosion from car battery terminals: Pour a can of Coca-Cola
over the terminals to bubble away the corrosion.
6. To loosen a rusted bolt: Apply a cloth soaked in Coca-Cola to the
rusted bolt for several minutes.
7. To bake a moist ham: Empty a can of Coca-Cola into the baking pan,
wrap the ham in aluminum foil, and bake. Thirty minutes before the ham is
finished, remove the foil, allowing the drippings to mix with the Coke
for sumptuous brown gravy.
8. To remove grease from clothes: Empty a can of coke into a load of
greasy clothes, add detergent, and run through a regular cycle. The
Coca-Cola will help loosen grease stains. It will also clean road haze
from your windshield.
FOR YOUR INFORMATION:
1. The active ingredient in Coke is phosphoric acid. Its pH is 2.8. It
will dissolve a nail in about four days. Phosphoric acid also leaches
calcium from bones and is a major contributor to the rising increase in
osteoporosis.
2. To carry Coca-Cola syrup (the concentrate) the commercial truck must
use the Hazardous Material place cards reserved for highly corrosive
materials.
3. The distributors of coke have been using it to clean the engines of
their trucks for about 20 years!
Now the question is, would YOU like a glass of water or coke?
- Author Unknown
No 33 Secretary
news:9fcfde84074260ea...@news.secureusenet.com:
>
> 1. In many states (in the USA) the highway patrol carries two gallons of
> Coke in the trunk to remove blood from the highway after a car accident.
Name one. I'll call them to confirm it.
>
> 2. You can put a T-bone steak in a bowl of coke and it will be gone in
> two days.
Rubbish.
http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/tooth.asp
>
> 3. To clean a toilet: Pour a can of Coca-Cola into the toilet bowl and
> let the "real thing" sit for one hour, then flush clean. The citric acid
> in Coke removes stains from vitreous china.
I've worked for a plumbing contractor. Bullshit.
>
> 4. To remove rust spots from chrome car bumpers: Rub the bumper with a
> rumpled-up piece of Reynolds Wrap aluminum foil dipped in Coca-Cola.
Most likely, that will discolor the bumper with aluminum stains. (Bumpers
are plated with chromium, not aluminium. It's not even the same color.)
>
> 5. To clean corrosion from car battery terminals: Pour a can of Coca-Cola
> over the terminals to bubble away the corrosion.
A wire brush will work in seconds. For that matter, a wire brush will
_work_.
>
> 6. To loosen a rusted bolt: Apply a cloth soaked in Coca-Cola to the
> rusted bolt for several minutes.
Bullshit. Try penetrating oil.
>
> 7. To bake a moist ham: Empty a can of Coca-Cola into the baking pan,
> wrap the ham in aluminum foil, and bake. Thirty minutes before the ham is
> finished, remove the foil, allowing the drippings to mix with the Coke
> for sumptuous brown gravy.
Cooking anything acidic with aluminum can kill you.
>
> 8. To remove grease from clothes: Empty a can of coke into a load of
> greasy clothes, add detergent, and run through a regular cycle. The
> Coca-Cola will help loosen grease stains. It will also clean road haze
> from your windshield.
A degreaser will work far better. Or, for that matter, work.
>
>
> FOR YOUR INFORMATION:
>
> 1. The active ingredient in Coke is phosphoric acid. Its pH is 2.8. It
> will dissolve a nail in about four days. Phosphoric acid also leaches
> calcium from bones and is a major contributor to the rising increase in
> osteoporosis.
If Coke had a pH of 2.8, it would burn your mouth to the point of bleeding
within seconds, and kill you shortly after you swallowed.
>
> 2. To carry Coca-Cola syrup (the concentrate) the commercial truck must
> use the Hazardous Material place cards reserved for highly corrosive
> materials.
It's also the same Hazardous Material sign used by trucks carrying orange
juice.
>
> 3. The distributors of coke have been using it to clean the engines of
> their trucks for about 20 years!
Cite one. I'll call them to confirm it.
>
> Now the question is, would YOU like a glass of water or coke?
>
It's not an _or_ question, retard. If you drink both, they will not mix
together in to some poisonous concoction that will instantly kill you and
make your dog explode. Feel free to drink both.
And stop spreading malicious lies and retarded urban legends.
--
Terry Austin
tau...@hyperbooks.com
www.hyperbooks.com
Roleplaying Stuff
Ron Baker
"sharon" <*...@....com> wrote in message
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>
> WATER
>
> 1. 75% of Americans are chronically dehydrated. (Likely applies to half
> world population.)
<>
>
> - Author Unknown
Author Not-credible.
Sorry. ;)
See:
http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/acid.asp
Mekkala
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<snip>
Now, I agree that Coke isn't great for you, but you're a fucking moron.
Sorry.
To illustrate precisely how you're a fucking moron...
Did you know that a *single glass* of the substance dihydrogen monoxide
can KILL you? And did you know that the average house contains many
*gallons* of this substance at any given time?
--
Mekkala, Atheist #2148
"When did I realize I was God? Well, I was praying and I suddenly
realized I was talking to myself!"
--Peter O'Toole.
Mekkala
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<snip>
Hey... sorry I called you a fucking moron. I'm trying to quit smoking and
I'm a bit nasty, if that's an excuse. But most of this is discredited
urban legends and Coke really ain't as dangerous as all that.
Graham Kennedy
> "sharon" <*...@....com> wrote in
> news:9fcfde84074260ea...@news.secureusenet.com:
>
>>1. In many states (in the USA) the highway patrol carries two gallons of
>>Coke in the trunk to remove blood from the highway after a car accident.
>
>
> Name one. I'll call them to confirm it.
>
>>2. You can put a T-bone steak in a bowl of coke and it will be gone in
>>two days.
>
>
> Rubbish.
> http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/tooth.asp
>
>>3. To clean a toilet: Pour a can of Coca-Cola into the toilet bowl and
>>let the "real thing" sit for one hour, then flush clean. The citric acid
>>in Coke removes stains from vitreous china.
>
>
> I've worked for a plumbing contractor. Bullshit.
This *does* work with vinegar, though. Did it myself
just the other day.
--
Graham Kennedy
Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org
Blast Femur
<Xns944690E4...@199.45.49.11>:
>On 03 Dec 2003, "sharon" <*...@....com> screwed up his face, groaned,
>pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
>news:9fcfde84074260ea...@news.secureusenet.com:
>
><snip>
>
>Hey... sorry I called you a fucking moron. I'm trying to quit smoking
>and I'm a bit nasty, if that's an excuse. But most of this is
>discredited urban legends and Coke really ain't as dangerous as all
>that.
>
Have you tried the Nicoderm patch? I used it for two weeks, then gave it
up due to the side effects (unsettling dreams) but it started me down the
road to success. Now I need to drop about 40 pounds.
--
Blast Femur
______________
"A long time ago, God made a Divine Plan. Gave it a lot of thought, decided
it was a good plan, put it into practice. And for billions and billions of
years, the Divine Plan has been doing just fine. Now, you come along, and
pray for something. Well suppose the thing you want isn't in God's Divine
Plan? What do you want Him to do? Change His plan? Just for you? Doesn't it
seem a little arrogant? It's a Divine Plan. What's the use of being God if
every run-down shmuck with a two-dollar prayerbook can come along and fuck
up Your Plan?"
-- George Carlin (NYC, 2/6/99)
Mekkala
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> joremovedath...@attbi.com (Mekkala) wrote in
> <Xns944690E4...@199.45.49.11>:
>
>>On 03 Dec 2003, "sharon" <*...@....com> screwed up his face, groaned,
>>pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
>>news:9fcfde84074260ea...@news.secureusenet.com:
>>
>><snip>
>>
>>Hey... sorry I called you a fucking moron. I'm trying to quit smoking
>>and I'm a bit nasty, if that's an excuse. But most of this is
>>discredited urban legends and Coke really ain't as dangerous as all
>>that.
>>
>
> Have you tried the Nicoderm patch? I used it for two weeks, then gave
> it up due to the side effects (unsettling dreams) but it started me
> down the road to success. Now I need to drop about 40 pounds.
>
I'm quitting cold... so far it's working. But it's tough. I may try
the patches, thanks.
Mike Painter
"No 33 Secretary" <taustin...@hyperbooks.com> wrote in message
news:Xns944678EBAB673ta...@216.168.3.50...
> "sharon" <*...@....com> wrote in
> news:9fcfde84074260ea...@news.secureusenet.com:
> >
> > 1. In many states (in the USA) the highway patrol carries two gallons of
> > Coke in the trunk to remove blood from the highway after a car accident.
>
> Name one. I'll call them to confirm it.
Nor does any emergency service orginazation.
The people who are responsible for cleaing the highway after an accident are
the tow truck drivers.
Guess what? No coke.
> >
> > 2. You can put a T-bone steak in a bowl of coke and it will be gone in
> > two days.
>
> Rubbish.
> http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/tooth.asp
> >
> > 3. To clean a toilet: Pour a can of Coca-Cola into the toilet bowl and
> > let the "real thing" sit for one hour, then flush clean. The citric acid
> > in Coke removes stains from vitreous china.
>
> I've worked for a plumbing contractor. Bullshit.
> >
> > 4. To remove rust spots from chrome car bumpers: Rub the bumper with a
> > rumpled-up piece of Reynolds Wrap aluminum foil dipped in Coca-Cola.
>
> Most likely, that will discolor the bumper with aluminum stains. (Bumpers
> are plated with chromium, not aluminium. It's not even the same color.)
If that had any effect it would be from the acid in the coke. Vinegar would
work better.
> >
> > 5. To clean corrosion from car battery terminals: Pour a can of
Coca-Cola
> > over the terminals to bubble away the corrosion.
>
> A wire brush will work in seconds. For that matter, a wire brush will
> _work_.
> >
> > 6. To loosen a rusted bolt: Apply a cloth soaked in Coca-Cola to the
> > rusted bolt for several minutes.
>
> Bullshit. Try penetrating oil.
> >
> > 7. To bake a moist ham: Empty a can of Coca-Cola into the baking pan,
> > wrap the ham in aluminum foil, and bake. Thirty minutes before the ham
is
> > finished, remove the foil, allowing the drippings to mix with the Coke
> > for sumptuous brown gravy.
>
> Cooking anything acidic with aluminum can kill you.
And cooking with 7-up is a much better way to moistureize.
> >
> > 8. To remove grease from clothes: Empty a can of coke into a load of
> > greasy clothes, add detergent, and run through a regular cycle. The
> > Coca-Cola will help loosen grease stains. It will also clean road haze
> > from your windshield.
>
> A degreaser will work far better. Or, for that matter, work.
> >
> >
> > FOR YOUR INFORMATION:
> >
> > 1. The active ingredient in Coke is phosphoric acid. Its pH is 2.8. It
> > will dissolve a nail in about four days. Phosphoric acid also leaches
> > calcium from bones and is a major contributor to the rising increase in
> > osteoporosis.
>
> If Coke had a pH of 2.8, it would burn your mouth to the point of bleeding
> within seconds, and kill you shortly after you swallowed.
> >
> > 2. To carry Coca-Cola syrup (the concentrate) the commercial truck must
> > use the Hazardous Material place cards reserved for highly corrosive
> > materials.
>
> It's also the same Hazardous Material sign used by trucks carrying orange
> juice.
> >
> > 3. The distributors of coke have been using it to clean the engines of
> > their trucks for about 20 years!
>
> Cite one. I'll call them to confirm it.
> >
> > Now the question is, would YOU like a glass of water or coke?
> >
A recent TV show Mythbusters tried most of the above with no positive
results.
> It's not an _or_ question, retard. If you drink both, they will not mix
> together in to some poisonous concoction that will instantly kill you and
> make your dog explode. Feel free to drink both.
>
> And stop spreading malicious lies and retarded urban legends.
>
1. Coke and most soft drinks contain an excessive amount of sugar and
drinking it in place of water is not as good as drinking water.
2. Coke contains caffeine which is a diuretic.
Had you said the above and stopped you would have had a reasonable post.
Had you said. Drink enough water so your pee is clear or light straw color,
you would have had a much shorter post.
martin
"Mekkala" <joremovedath...@attbi.com> wrote in message
news:Xns94469057...@199.45.49.11...
> Did you know that a *single glass* of the substance dihydrogen monoxide
> can KILL you? And did you know that the average house contains many
> *gallons* of this substance at any given time?
yeah right!
*snikker*
I got my ex to make the anhydrous copper sulphate test for DHMO in the
effluent pipe from her factory, almost caused a strike. But then she was a
lumber mill operator in Canada
lol
Hector
<joremovedath...@attbi.com> wrote:
>On 03 Dec 2003, y...@wish.com (Blast Femur) screwed up his face, groaned,
>pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
>news:94467DC3A...@127.0.0.1:
>
>> joremovedath...@attbi.com (Mekkala) wrote in
>> <Xns944690E4...@199.45.49.11>:
>>
>>>On 03 Dec 2003, "sharon" <*...@....com> screwed up his face, groaned,
>>>pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
>>>news:9fcfde84074260ea...@news.secureusenet.com:
>>>
>>><snip>
>>>
>>>Hey... sorry I called you a fucking moron. I'm trying to quit smoking
>>>and I'm a bit nasty, if that's an excuse. But most of this is
>>>discredited urban legends and Coke really ain't as dangerous as all
>>>that.
>>>
>>
>> Have you tried the Nicoderm patch? I used it for two weeks, then gave
>> it up due to the side effects (unsettling dreams) but it started me
>> down the road to success. Now I need to drop about 40 pounds.
>>
>
>I'm quitting cold... so far it's working. But it's tough. I may try
>the patches, thanks.
I prayed for deliverance from smoking (1 1/2 packs a day for
18 years), after having tried myself without previous success. I have
not touched cigarettes in the ten years since. By God's grace I was
able to quite with marginal, if any, withdrawal symptoms, and I only
gained 5 pounds afterwards.
Respectfully,
Hector
Robert Matthews
No 33 Secretary <taustin...@hyperbooks.com> wrote:
> "sharon" <*...@....com> wrote in
> news:9fcfde84074260ea...@news.secureusenet.com:
> >
> > 1. The active ingredient in Coke is phosphoric acid. Its pH is 2.8. It
> > will dissolve a nail in about four days. Phosphoric acid also leaches
> > calcium from bones and is a major contributor to the rising increase in
> > osteoporosis.
>
> If Coke had a pH of 2.8, it would burn your mouth to the point of bleeding
> within seconds, and kill you shortly after you swallowed.
It wouldn't, actually. Lemon juice has a pH of less than 2.8, and
you can drink that. You wouldn't, but you could. Coca-Cola isn't even as
acid as lemon juice; phosphoric acid may have a pH of 2.8, but soft
drinks aren't pure phosphoric acid.
Doesn't mean that the entire post isn't bullshit, though. 75% of
the population of the entire world is chronically dehydrated? We need
8-10 glasses of water per day? Don't think so! Every drop of water that
enters our system, from liquid water, other beverages, and food, counts
towards our water intake. I don't know why these ludicrous panic-mongers
seem so intent on scaring everyone into flooding themselves with water.
If I drank 10 glasses a day I'd be peeing every fifteen minutes.
I think I'll go have a nice refreshing glass of Vanilla Diet Coke.
Robert Matthews
a.a. #1801
Blast Femur
<g1kssvcjpajmov23q...@4ax.com>:
There's much to say for placebos, eh?
No 33 Secretary
news:107048267...@iris.uk.clara.net:
> No 33 Secretary wrote:
>
>> "sharon" <*...@....com> wrote in
>> news:9fcfde84074260ea...@news.secureusenet.com:
>>
>>>1. In many states (in the USA) the highway patrol carries two gallons of
>>>Coke in the trunk to remove blood from the highway after a car accident.
>>
>>
>> Name one. I'll call them to confirm it.
>>
>>>2. You can put a T-bone steak in a bowl of coke and it will be gone in
>>>two days.
>>
>>
>> Rubbish.
>> http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/tooth.asp
>>
>>>3. To clean a toilet: Pour a can of Coca-Cola into the toilet bowl and
>>>let the "real thing" sit for one hour, then flush clean. The citric acid
>>>in Coke removes stains from vitreous china.
>>
>>
>> I've worked for a plumbing contractor. Bullshit.
>
> This *does* work with vinegar, though. Did it myself
> just the other day.
>
To a degree, yes, it does. There are other de-calcifiers that have the same
chemical, only stronger, that work much better.
No 33 Secretary
news:l0szb.383525$0v4.19...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>
> 1. Coke and most soft drinks contain an excessive amount of sugar and
> drinking it in place of water is not as good as drinking water.
I won't argue that. But that's not what was claimed.
> 2. Coke contains caffeine which is a diuretic.
Yes.
> Had you said the above and stopped you would have had a reasonable
> post. Had you said. Drink enough water so your pee is clear or light
> straw color, you would have had a much shorter post.
>
You have a point? Are you claiming that drinking Coke is bad for you? Not
drinking too much of it, just drinking it at all? Are you claiming that you
cannot drink Coke and water, both? If not, then what the hell are you
babbling about?
Drinking too much of _anything_ is bad for you. Drinking too much _water_
is fatal.
No 33 Secretary
news:pyramus-8BC923...@news21.bellnet.ca:
> I think I'll go have a nice refreshing glass of Vanilla Diet
> Coke.
>
Well, diet soft drinks have Nutripuke in them, which turns in to
formaldehye, you know. You'll be embalmed before you're even dead!
Mekkala
That's wonderful! I'd try it myself, except that since I don't have any
delusions about the efficacy of prayer, the placebo effect wouldn't work
on me. That's a big drawback to being a skeptic -- no placebos to
resort to when you're at a loss.
towelie
> WATER
>
> 1. 75% of Americans are chronically dehydrated. (Likely applies to
> half world population.)
>
> 2. In 37% of Americans, the thirst mechanism is so weak that it is
> often mistaken for hunger.
>
> 3. Even MILD dehydration will slow down one's metabolism as much as
> 3%.
>
> 4. One glass of water will shut down midnight hunger pangs for almost
> 100% of the dieters studied in a University of Washington study.
>
> 5. Lack of water, the #1 trigger of daytime fatigue.
>
> 6. Preliminary research indicates that 8-10 glasses of water a day
> could significantly ease back and joint pain for up to 80% of
> sufferers.
>
> 7. A mere 2% drop in body water can trigger fuzzy short-term memory,
> trouble with basic math, and difficulty focusing on the computer
> screen or on a printed page.
>
> 8. Drinking 5 glasses of water daily decreases the risk of colon
> cancer by 45%, plus it can slash the risk of breast cancer by 79%,
> and one is 50%less likely to develop bladder cancer. Are you drinking
> the amount of water you should every day?
>
>
> COKE
Many of these "facts" are debunked at
http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/cokelore.asp
And the stomach's acids have a pH of 1-2. Why would something with a pH of
2.8 be harmful to an organ that has a lower normal pH?
> 2. To carry Coca-Cola syrup (the concentrate) the commercial truck
> must use the Hazardous Material place cards reserved for highly
> corrosive materials.
>
> 3. The distributors of coke have been using it to clean the engines of
> their trucks for about 20 years!
>
> Now the question is, would YOU like a glass of water or coke?
>
> - Author Unknown
--
Swayin' to the rhythm of the new world order
Count the bodies like sheep to the rhythm of the war drum
aa #2133
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Therion Ware
On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:00:37 +0000 (UTC) in alt.atheism, martin
("martin" <martin...@btinternet.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
Interestingly though, drinking too much water can kill you. Apparently
it upsets the sodium balance or something causing "hyponatraemia".
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towelie
If I had quit smoking (I've never been a smoker), then you can bet your last
cent that I would be taking credit for it rather than giving all the credit
to a "god".
Hector
<joremovedath...@attbi.com> wrote:
Now, that's an odd coincidence. I likewise don't have any
delusions about the efficacy of prayer. Perhaps it's the
reinforcement of faith by the wealth of answered prayer? And who
would suspect that many of those prayers had a focus other than my
personal health and assorted, personal foibles?
Placeboes are far ranging, are they not?
Regards,
Hector
Graham Kennedy
>>>
>>>>3. To clean a toilet: Pour a can of Coca-Cola into the toilet bowl and
>>>>let the "real thing" sit for one hour, then flush clean. The citric acid
>>>>in Coke removes stains from vitreous china.
>>>
>>>
>>>I've worked for a plumbing contractor. Bullshit.
>>
>>This *does* work with vinegar, though. Did it myself
>>just the other day.
>>
>
> To a degree, yes, it does. There are other de-calcifiers that have the same
> chemical, only stronger, that work much better.
Not in my local supermarket there aren't. But a litre
of vinegar worked brilliantly.
No 33 Secretary
> No 33 Secretary wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>>>3. To clean a toilet: Pour a can of Coca-Cola into the toilet bowl
>>>>>and let the "real thing" sit for one hour, then flush clean. The
>>>>>citric acid in Coke removes stains from vitreous china.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I've worked for a plumbing contractor. Bullshit.
>>>
>>>This *does* work with vinegar, though. Did it myself
>>>just the other day.
>>>
>>
>> To a degree, yes, it does. There are other de-calcifiers that have
>> the same chemical, only stronger, that work much better.
>
> Not in my local supermarket there aren't. But a litre
> of vinegar worked brilliantly.
>
You need a better supermarket.
Blast Femur
<rhnssv48bbt7v460e...@4ax.com>:
>
> Now, that's an odd coincidence. I likewise don't have any
>delusions about the efficacy of prayer. Perhaps it's the
>reinforcement of faith by the wealth of answered prayer?
A person is prayed over and recovers from cancer.
To the theist, it's an answered prayer.
To the atheist, it's remission.
George Carlin has a good rant on prayer. It's in my sig.
<snip>
Mekkala
groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
Amazingly so. Just goes to show the ability of the human mind to delude
itself. I was once as good at it as, it seems, you are. I salute you
for having retained that admirable skill -- unfortunately for me,
reality seriously damaged my self-delusion ability. It's something I'll
always regret.
Daniel Kolle
>Now the question is, would YOU like a glass of water or coke?
Coke. I drink enough water already.
--
-Daniel "Mr. Brevity" Kolle; 15 A.A. #2035
Koji Kondo, Yo-Yo Ma, Gustav Mahler, and Krzysztof Penderecki are my Gods.
Madly Insane EAC Scientist.
Graham Kennedy
Could well be. I don't suppose they'll build one just
because I ask, though.
Phillip Brown
> On 03 Dec 2003, "sharon" <*...@....com> screwed up his face, groaned,
> pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
> news:9fcfde84074260ea...@news.secureusenet.com:
>
> <snip>
>
> Hey... sorry I called you a fucking moron. I'm trying to quit smoking and
> I'm a bit nasty, if that's an excuse.
a guy I knew said he tried to give up smoking, but then all the people
around him became really difficult to work with.....
--
phillip brown
No 33 Secretary
> No 33 Secretary wrote:
>
>> Graham Kennedy <gra...@ditl.org> wrote in
>> news:107048913...@iris.uk.clara.net:
>>
>>
>>>No 33 Secretary wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>3. To clean a toilet: Pour a can of Coca-Cola into the toilet bowl
>>>>>>>and let the "real thing" sit for one hour, then flush clean. The
>>>>>>>citric acid in Coke removes stains from vitreous china.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I've worked for a plumbing contractor. Bullshit.
>>>>>
>>>>>This *does* work with vinegar, though. Did it myself
>>>>>just the other day.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>To a degree, yes, it does. There are other de-calcifiers that have
>>>>the same chemical, only stronger, that work much better.
>>>
>>>Not in my local supermarket there aren't. But a litre
>>>of vinegar worked brilliantly.
>>>
>>
>> You need a better supermarket.
>
> Could well be. I don't suppose they'll build one just
> because I ask, though.
>
As an alternative, you might try a local plumbing store, or hardware store.
Both usually carry such products, and usually the better quality ones.
Geoff Offermann
news:Xns944678EBAB673ta...@216.168.3.50...
> > Coke in the trunk to remove blood from the highway after a car accident.
>
Also debunked by snopes...
http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/acid.asp
Walking on Glass
alt.atheism, news:944684055...@127.0.0.1:
> Mel...@Dithyrambic.com (Hector) wrote in
> <g1kssvcjpajmov23q...@4ax.com>:
>
<snip>
>> I prayed for deliverance from smoking (1 1/2 packs a day for
>>18 years), after having tried myself without previous success. I have
>>not touched cigarettes in the ten years since. By God's grace I was
>>able to quite with marginal, if any, withdrawal symptoms, and I only
>>gained 5 pounds afterwards.
>>
>>Respectfully,
>>Hector
>>
>
> There's much to say for placebos, eh?
Hehehe!
--
Walking on Glass (remove NOSPAM to email me)
AA #2053 Zymurgist #12
"If you want to save your child from polio, you can pray or
you can inoculate...Try science"
Carl Sagan - "The Demon-Haunted World"
sharon
"Mike Painter" <mdotp...@att.net> wrote in message
news:l0szb.383525$0v4.19...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> 1. Coke and most soft drinks contain an excessive amount of sugar and
> drinking it in place of water is not as good as drinking water.
> 2. Coke contains caffeine which is a diuretic.
> Had you said the above and stopped you would have had a reasonable post.
It was sent through to me, composed by an unknown author. :)
Chain email.
Wow... if you want to know about A_N_Y_T_H_I_N_G
post it on usenet...
Wow... I never expected that kind of response. I'm overwhelmed.
I have heard that a dime put in soft drinks... the drink will eat up the
dime.
I have heard from medical folks, on the radio, that there's something about
soft drinks, which will interefere with with calcium in bones. (They said to
encourage your daughters to avoid soft drinks -- fear of Osteoporosis in
latter life.)
Beyond that... I didn't write the post. Thanks for all the scrutiny.
sharon
"sharon" <*...@....com> wrote in message
news:9fcfde84074260ea...@news.secureusenet.com...
>
> Now the question is, would YOU like a glass of water or coke?
>
>
>
Remember? I didn't write the post. it was sent through to me, and I knew
there was at least a bit of truth to some of it, but the rest...
oh well, you guys have done a heck of a job debunking it.
Brian E. Clark
> I prayed for deliverance from smoking (1 1/2 packs a day for
> 18 years), after having tried myself without previous success.
I'm glad you found a way to quit. But I'm sure we both know people who
prayed no less earnestly than you did, but who could not quit smoking.
Do you count such failures in your assessment of prayer's effectiveness?
Or do you count only the darts that hit the bull's eye? ;-)
--
-----------
Brian E. Clark
Al Klein
<taustin...@hyperbooks.com> posted in alt.atheism:
>"sharon" <*...@....com> wrote in
>news:9fcfde84074260ea...@news.secureusenet.com:
>> FOR YOUR INFORMATION:
>> 1. The active ingredient in Coke is phosphoric acid. Its pH is 2.8. It
>> will dissolve a nail in about four days. Phosphoric acid also leaches
>> calcium from bones and is a major contributor to the rising increase in
>> osteoporosis.
>If Coke had a pH of 2.8, it would burn your mouth to the point of bleeding
>within seconds, and kill you shortly after you swallowed.
I think the claim is that pure phosphoric acid has a pH of 2.8. The
amount of it in a can of Coke barely lowers the pH of the Coke.
>And stop spreading malicious lies and retarded urban legends.
That's one of sharon's most intelligent posts yet. She was only 100%
wrong this time.
--
"The doctrine that the earth is neither the center of the universe nor immovable, but
moves even with a daily rotation, is absurd, and both philosophically and theologically
false, and at the least an error of faith."
- Catholic Church's decision against Galileo Galilei
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at optonline dot net
Al Klein
posted in alt.atheism:
>> > 1. In many states (in the USA) the highway patrol carries two gallons of
>> > Coke in the trunk to remove blood from the highway after a car accident.
>> Name one. I'll call them to confirm it.
>The California Highway Patrol does not!
>Nor does any emergency service orginazation.
>The people who are responsible for cleaing the highway after an accident are
>the tow truck drivers.
Your fire departments don't do washdowns?
--
Zymurgist # 2
Al Klein
>I'm quitting cold... so far it's working. But it's tough. I may try
>the patches, thanks.
If you've been off it for a week you're detoxed, so going back to
nicotine, burning it or wearing patches, would be a bit foolish.
After a week the only "addiction" left is psychological addiction, and
patches don't help you get over that. (7 years, almost 8 months smoke
free.)
lizzard woman
"Al Klein" <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:d2dtsv4i6n5flan69...@Pern.rk...
> On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 19:53:14 -0000, No 33 Secretary
> <taustin...@hyperbooks.com> posted in alt.atheism:
>
> >"sharon" <*...@....com> wrote in
> >news:9fcfde84074260ea...@news.secureusenet.com:
>
> >> FOR YOUR INFORMATION:
>
> >> 1. The active ingredient in Coke is phosphoric acid. Its pH is 2.8. It
> >> will dissolve a nail in about four days. Phosphoric acid also leaches
> >> calcium from bones and is a major contributor to the rising increase in
> >> osteoporosis.
>
> >If Coke had a pH of 2.8, it would burn your mouth to the point of
bleeding
> >within seconds, and kill you shortly after you swallowed.
>
> I think the claim is that pure phosphoric acid has a pH of 2.8. The
> amount of it in a can of Coke barely lowers the pH of the Coke.
I think the deal with coke (and other sodas) is the effect of carbonation...
all that CO2 in solution results in a fair amount of carbonic acid. When
you first open the can, the pH is extremely low, less than 2 as I recall.
Almost immediately, some of the CO2 comes out of solution, driving the pH
up. But the thing is, even if you grabbed a sip when the pH was very low,
it still doesn't burn you because the ionic strength is so low. That is,
even though the solution is very acidic, the total number of ions floating
around is relatively small so you still don't get burned.
--
sharon, aa #2153 (the "other" sharon)
"(of creationism) ... Only apocryphal tales told by goat herders around the
campfire after it became too dark to continue to molest their charges." --
TvG (Rec.Equestrian, 2003)
Blast Femur
> On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 20:39:10 GMT, Mekkala
> <joremovedath...@attbi.com> posted in alt.atheism:
>
>>I'm quitting cold... so far it's working. But it's tough. I may try
>>the patches, thanks.
>
> If you've been off it for a week you're detoxed, so going back to
> nicotine, burning it or wearing patches, would be a bit foolish.
> After a week the only "addiction" left is psychological addiction, and
> patches don't help you get over that. (7 years, almost 8 months smoke
> free.)
It didn't feel like that to me. Although you're probably right about
starting up the nicotine flow after detoxing, I believe it takes a little
longer - maybe two weeks to get "clean". But the nagging anxiety attacks
accompanied by that physical "burning" feeling in my head that only a
cigarette could quench hung on for about a year, although with less
potency and frequency as time passed. Perhaps that is a psychosomatic
ailment, but physical indulgences quelled it for me. Cold cokes drunk
fast, popsicles (the cheap kind that come in a big plastic bag), Altoids
(those wonderful STRONG mints) all helped tremendously. Unfortunately,
so did big lunches at work.
Almost three years now for me.
--
Blast Femur
______________
"We look at the ancient Greeks with their gods on a mountain top throwing
lightning bolts and say, 'Those ancient Greeks. They were so silly. So
primitive and naive. Not like our religions. We have burning bushes
talking to people and guys walking on water. We're ...sophisticated.'"
-Paul Provenza
Mike Painter
"Al Klein" <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:n7dtsv8md9ff7qt9r...@Pern.rk...
> On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 20:50:25 GMT, "Mike Painter" <mdotp...@att.net>
> posted in alt.atheism:
>
> >> > 1. In many states (in the USA) the highway patrol carries two gallons
of
> >> > Coke in the trunk to remove blood from the highway after a car
accident.
>
> >> Name one. I'll call them to confirm it.
>
> >The California Highway Patrol does not!
> >Nor does any emergency service orginazation.
> >The people who are responsible for cleaing the highway after an accident
are
> >the tow truck drivers.
>
> Your fire departments don't do washdowns?
Shut up. Who told you.*
Oh, yeah I forgot about that we do occasionally but we see very few
accidents in our district.
* A year or two ago we opened a hydrant near our station for some reason.
Wide open.
A few minutes later someone noted that there was less of the asphalt on that
part of the road...
Robert Matthews
Therion Ware <autod...@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:00:37 +0000 (UTC) in alt.atheism, martin
> ("martin" <martin...@btinternet.com>) said, directing the reply to
> alt.atheism
> >
> >> Did you know that a *single glass* of the substance dihydrogen monoxide
> >> can KILL you? And did you know that the average house contains many
> >> *gallons* of this substance at any given time?
>
> Interestingly though, drinking too much water can kill you. Apparently
> it upsets the sodium balance or something causing "hyponatraemia".
A couple of years ago a female marathoner died from this, and it's
not a very nice way to go. (Women are more prone to it than men.) It's
not just the sodium balance, apparently--it turns out to be more
complicated, involving a stress hormone.
http://www.amaasportsmed.org/news_room/hyponatremia_reuters.htm
"Marathon Dilemma: How Much Water is Too Much?"
http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/327/7407/113
"Overconsumption of fluids by athletes: Advice to overdrink may cause
fatal hyponatraemic encephalopathy"
I don't know how a single glass of dihydrogen monoxide can kill
you, though. If you inhaled the whole thing, maybe. Or poured it into a
puddle and stood in it while sticking a fork in an electrical socket.
Robert Matthews
a.a. #1801
G
Well, if the glass is large enough I suppose you could try to stick your
nose and mouth in, and keep it there for a couple of minutes.
--
Eternal Lands: www.eternal-lands.com
sharon
"Ron Baker" <rba...@msnn.com> wrote in message
news:whrzb.2075$WT6...@twister.socal.rr.com...
>
> "sharon" <*...@....com> wrote in message
> news:9fcfde84074260ea...@news.secureusenet.com...
> >
> >
> > 1. 75% of Americans are chronically dehydrated. (Likely applies to half
> > world population.)
>
> <>
>
> >
>
> Author Not-credible.
>
> Sorry. ;)
>
Okay. You guys got anything to say on this one? I was emailed an email
saying "Butter or Margarine" (and I have heard others repeating that both
are bad, but Margarine is the worse (they say)...
http://www.breakthechain.org/exclusives/margarine.html
BUTTER VERSES MARGARINE
DID YOU KNOW... The difference between margarine and butter?
Both have the same amount of calories Butter is slightly higher in saturated
fats at 8 grams compared to 5 grams. Eating margarine can increase heart
disease in women by 53% over eating the same amount of butter according to a
recent Harvard Medical Study
Eating butter increases the absorption of many other nutrients in other
foods Butter has many nutrional benefits where margarine has a few only
because they are added! Butter tastes much better then margarine and it can
enhance the flavours of other foods. Butter has been around for centuries
where margarine has been around for less then 100 years Now for Margarine...
very high in Trans Fatty Acids Triple risk of Coronary Heart Disease
Increases total and LDL ( this is the bad cholesterol) Lowers HDL
cholesterol * and this is the good one Increases the risk of cancers by up
to five fold. Lowers quality of breast milk. Decreases immune response.
Decreases insulin response.
And here is the most disturbing fact....
Margarine is but ONE MOLECULE from being PLASTIC...
( this fact alone was enough to have me avoiding margarine for life and
anything else that is hydrogenated , this means hydrogen is added changing
the molecular structure of the food )
YOU can try this yourself, purchase a tub of margarine and leave it in your
garage or shaded area, within a couple of days you will note a couple of
things, no flies, not even those pesky fruit flies will go near it,( that
should tell you something) it does not rot, smell differently...Because it
has no nutritional value, nothing will grow on it, even those teeny weeny
microorganisms will not a find a home to grow...Why? because it is nearly
plastic. Would you melt your tupperware and spread that on your toast?
Yuck!
> See:
> http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/acid.asp
>
>
>
>
sharon
> pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
> news:9fcfde84074260ea...@news.secureusenet.com:
>
> <snip>
>
> Did you know that a *single glass* of the substance dihydrogen monoxide
> can KILL you? And did you know that the average house contains many
> *gallons* of this substance at any given time?
Interesting.
http://cactus.eas.asu.edu/partha/Columns/11-05-DHMO.htm
Dihydrogen Monoxide
Dihydrogen monoxide or DHMO, also known as Hydrogen Hydroxide or Hydronium
Hydroxide is one of the most prolific chemicals contacted in daily life. It
is colorless, odorless and tasteless, and sometimes considered harmless, and
yet kills very large numbers of humans every year. DHMO is generally a
liquid, but is also available in solid and gaseous forms. Prolonged exposure
to solid DHMO causes severe tissue damage, accidental inhalation can be
fatal, and ingestion can cause bloating, nausea leading to sweating and
urination.
The web page for the "Coalition to Ban DHMO" lists a slew of hazards
associated with it. DHMO is the primary ingredient of acid rain, contributes
to the greenhouse effect, causes havoc with electrical equipment, can be
been found in cancerous tissue, can cause severe burns, accelerates
corrosion of metals and is the primary cause of thousands of other
calamities (including tornadoes, flooding and tsunamis).
Yet, handling, distribution and use of DHMO is perfectly legal. It
contaminates all of our streams, lakes and rivers. It is found in easily
detectable quantities in the atmosphere. It is prolifically used as an
industrial solvent and legally dumped it into the environment. Amongst other
uses, DHMO is used in animal research, production of pesticides, manufacture
of hazardous chemicals, detoxification of food, enhancement of plant growth
and maintaining chemical balance in swimming pools. It is also used as a
coolant in nuclear reactors, for manufacturing biological weapons, for
religious rituals and has been used in death camps.
Yet, most unknowing victims consider DHMO vital to life. Absence of DHMO can
lead to famine, renal failure and disease. It is used daily for food
preparation and is present in most kitchens and bathrooms. It has been
called the "elixir of life". It is also vital to our existence, without
DHMO we would be all dead.
In case you are wondering, where you may run into DHMO, try the nearest tap.
The chemical formula for DHMO is, of course, H20 and the unenlightened
masses tend to call it "water".
Water is everywhere, yet it is often in short supply. The oceans hold about
98% of the total amount of water on earth, but seawater is unfit for
consumption. Human habitations can exist only where fresh water is
available. Yet, people have inhabited deserts by building canals and
pipelines to bring water in from elsewhere.
sharon
> On 03 Dec 2003, "sharon" <*...@....com> screwed up his face, groaned,
> pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
> news:9fcfde84074260ea...@news.secureusenet.com:
>
> <snip>
>
> urban legends and Coke really ain't as dangerous as all that.
I posted the thing, after it arrived in my email, and continued to work on a
2 litre bottle of Mountain Dew. I don't like Coca Cola as much. I consume
coffee around the clock -- that too, has it's critics.
They say that breads, cereals and potato chips, etc baked/fried at high
temperatures can produce a chemical in the food which can be a
cancer-causing agent (nightly news was warning about it) ... I don't pay
such much mind... we've got to eat something. Everything will kill you.
So I've often heard that there's only 2 guarantees in life, death and taxes.
sharon
"Hector" <Mel...@Dithyrambic.com> wrote in message
news:g1kssvcjpajmov23q...@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 20:39:10 GMT, Mekkala
>
> >On 03 Dec 2003, y...@wish.com (Blast Femur) screwed up his face, groaned,
> >pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
> >
> >> joremovedath...@attbi.com (Mekkala) wrote in
> >> <Xns944690E4...@199.45.49.11>:
> >>
> >>>pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
> >>>news:9fcfde84074260ea...@news.secureusenet.com:
> >>>
> >>><snip>
> >>>
> >>>Hey... sorry I called you a fucking moron. I'm trying to quit smoking
> >>>and I'm a bit nasty, if that's an excuse. But most of this is
> >>>discredited urban legends and Coke really ain't as dangerous as all
> >>>that.
> >>>
> >>
> >> it up due to the side effects (unsettling dreams) but it started me
> >> down the road to success. Now I need to drop about 40 pounds.
> >>
> >
> >the patches, thanks.
>
> not touched cigarettes in the ten years since. By God's grace I was
> able to quite with marginal, if any, withdrawal symptoms, and I only
> gained 5 pounds afterwards.
You attend church right? Where nearly everyone is against smoking. Much
support to quit. In fact, probably pressure to quit. The people around you
were praying too, weren't they?
I heard a saying once about "He who's table I eat at, is the opinion I
bear."
When you're part of a group, especially in a church, it pays to become like
them. Thinking and speaking like them... from altering your dress code, to
stopping smoking.
Then say "God did it all."
>
> Respectfully,
> Hector
Mekkala
<pyr...@ns.deleteme.sympatico.nospam.ca> screwed up his face, groaned,
pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
A single glass can kill you by, yes, inhaling the entire glass. That
would kill you, unless there's a person trained in basic first aid
nearby.
--
Mekkala, Atheist #2148
"Atheism is ... the bed-rock of sanity in a world of madness."
--Emmett F. Fields
Mekkala
pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
>
> "Mekkala" <joremovedath...@attbi.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns944690E4...@199.45.49.11...
>> On 03 Dec 2003, "sharon" <*...@....com> screwed up his face, groaned,
>> pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
>> news:9fcfde84074260ea...@news.secureusenet.com:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> Hey... sorry I called you a fucking moron. I'm trying to quit
>> smoking and I'm a bit nasty, if that's an excuse. But most of this
>> is discredited urban legends and Coke really ain't as dangerous as
>> all that.
>
>
> I posted the thing, after it arrived in my email, and continued to
> work on a 2 litre bottle of Mountain Dew. I don't like Coca Cola as
> much. I consume coffee around the clock -- that too, has it's critics.
>
> They say that breads, cereals and potato chips, etc baked/fried at
> high temperatures can produce a chemical in the food which can be a
> cancer-causing agent (nightly news was warning about it) ... I don't
> pay such much mind... we've got to eat something. Everything will kill
> you.
>
> So I've often heard that there's only 2 guarantees in life, death and
> taxes.
And we're not sure about the taxes...
Mekkala
And I'm sure we both know people who never prayed at all yet quit
smoking quite as effectively as he did. I'm also sure he doesn't count
such prayerless successes in his assessment of the necessity of prayer.
Hector
At the risk of compromising myself, I must confess that most
of the members of the church that I attended when I was released from
the habit considered drinking of any alcoholic beverage to be sinful.
I don't agree with this opinion, and I know it to not be scriptural.
I have never hesitated to drink alcoholic beverages in the face of
that sentiment. If that congregation was unable to "pressure" me into
restraining my imbibing, who was aware of my opinion in that matter,
then I find it dubious that they could have had success in compelling
me to quit my smoking habit, had they known of it.
I was convicted by God of smoking, for what my children were
incurring in the habit's detriment to their health. It was at this
point that I surrendered the whole matter to the Lord, as I knew from
experience that I did not have the will power to overcome the habit.
In submitting myself in obedience to God, and asking for His grace to
help me to overcome, I was delivered from smoking. I had not shared
this with anyone, other than my spouse, until I had reached that time
in my abstinence that it would be obvious to one and all that I was
making no pretense.
Anyone can dismiss my experience and attribute its results to
a placebo effect or whatever excuse sounds even remotely plausible.
Everyone has that prerogative. I, however, will recognize the source
of my strength and give Him due reverence. But it is not just this
singular anecdote that demonstrates the Lord's fulfillment in my life.
The wealth of prayer that I have rendered and of which I have been
witness to consequence is impossible to adequately relate. I have
experienced both the miraculous and the subtle and in areas of focus
other than my own foible and health. If I were so inclined I could
relate many of those accounts, though, the obdurate will always have a
"explanation" for the outcome, in spite of the magnitude and
derivation of the result.
Respectfully,
Hector
Blast Femur
<j2nusv4rpeu7njk2f...@4ax.com>:
>On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 14:03:58 GMT, "sharon" <*...@....com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>Then say "God did it all."
>>
>
> At the risk of compromising myself, I must confess that most
>of the members of the church that I attended when I was released from
>the habit considered drinking of any alcoholic beverage to be sinful.
Released from the habit? Give yourself at least SOME credit.
>I don't agree with this opinion, and I know it to not be scriptural.
It depends on which scripture you choose to believe, I guess. There are
contradicting verses on the morality of alcohol.
>I have never hesitated to drink alcoholic beverages in the face of
>that sentiment. If that congregation was unable to "pressure" me into
>restraining my imbibing, who was aware of my opinion in that matter,
>then I find it dubious that they could have had success in compelling
>me to quit my smoking habit, had they known of it.
>
>I was convicted by God of smoking, for what my children were
>incurring in the habit's detriment to their health. It was at this
>point that I surrendered the whole matter to the Lord, as I knew from
>experience that I did not have the will power to overcome the habit.
Actually, you do, because you did quit. Placebo (god) or not, nicotine is
one of the most powerful addictive drugs on the planet. And you, Hector,
conquered it. Now reach around over your left shoulder with your right
hand and pat yourself on the back. Smile. You did it man.
>In submitting myself in obedience to God, and asking for His grace to
>help me to overcome, I was delivered from smoking. I had not shared
>this with anyone, other than my spouse, until I had reached that time
>in my abstinence that it would be obvious to one and all that I was
>making no pretense.
In other words, you didn't trust yourself, OR your god, to deliver yourself
from the habit until you knew you were over the hump.
> Anyone can dismiss my experience and attribute its results to
>a placebo effect or whatever excuse sounds even remotely plausible.
>Everyone has that prerogative. I, however, will recognize the source
>of my strength and give Him due reverence. But it is not just this
>singular anecdote that demonstrates the Lord's fulfillment in my life.
>The wealth of prayer that I have rendered and of which I have been
>witness to consequence is impossible to adequately relate. I have
>experienced both the miraculous and the subtle and in areas of focus
>other than my own foible and health. If I were so inclined I could
>relate many of those accounts, though, the obdurate will always have a
>"explanation" for the outcome, in spite of the magnitude and
>derivation of the result.
>
>Respectfully,
>Hector
>
I'm sorry you feel you have to divert the credit to your personal master,
but at least give yourself some credit. Quitting smoking isn't a miracle,
it's damn hard work. Now repeat after me. "I DID IT!"
--
Blast Femur
______________
"A long time ago, God made a Divine Plan. Gave it a lot of thought, decided
it was a good plan, put it into practice. And for billions and billions of
years, the Divine Plan has been doing just fine. Now, you come along, and
pray for something. Well suppose the thing you want isn't in God's Divine
Plan? What do you want Him to do? Change His plan? Just for you? Doesn't it
seem a little arrogant? It's a Divine Plan. What's the use of being God if
every run-down shmuck with a two-dollar prayerbook can come along and fuck
up Your Plan?"
-- George Carlin (NYC, 2/6/99)
No 33 Secretary
news:1ed50aa0e36c30ea...@news.secureusenet.com:
>
> "Mike Painter" <mdotp...@att.net> wrote in message
> news:l0szb.383525$0v4.19...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>
>
>> 1. Coke and most soft drinks contain an excessive amount of sugar and
>> drinking it in place of water is not as good as drinking water.
>> 2. Coke contains caffeine which is a diuretic.
>> Had you said the above and stopped you would have had a reasonable
>> post.
>
> It was sent through to me, composed by an unknown author. :)
> Chain email.
>
> Wow... if you want to know about A_N_Y_T_H_I_N_G
> post it on usenet...
>
> Wow... I never expected that kind of response.
I find the propogation of urban legend, especially stupid urban legend,
offensive and wasteful.
>I'm overwhelmed.
>
Easily.
> I have heard that a dime put in soft drinks... the drink will eat up
> the dime.
Eventually, for very long definitions of eventually.
> I have heard from medical folks, on the radio, that there's something
> about soft drinks, which will interefere with with calcium in bones.
> (They said to encourage your daughters to avoid soft drinks -- fear of
> Osteoporosis in latter life.)
They're idiots.
>
> Beyond that... I didn't write the post.
You propagated it, however.
>Thanks for all the scrutiny.
>
This has been a public service announcement. Or maybe a pubic service
announcement.
No 33 Secretary
> On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 20:50:25 GMT, "Mike Painter" <mdotp...@att.net>
> posted in alt.atheism:
>
>>> > 1. In many states (in the USA) the highway patrol carries two
>>> > gallons of Coke in the trunk to remove blood from the highway
>>> > after a car accident.
>
>>> Name one. I'll call them to confirm it.
>
>>The California Highway Patrol does not!
>>Nor does any emergency service orginazation.
>>The people who are responsible for cleaing the highway after an
>>accident are the tow truck drivers.
>
> Your fire departments don't do washdowns?
If they did, they'd use chemicals certified to work correctly, and
certified to not do even more environmental damage if used properly.
No 33 Secretary
I'm hoping that was an erosion effect, and not a chemical effect of the
water.
(As a side note, I caught a piece on some cable network last night about a
fire boat that pumps some thousands of pounds of water per second. They
talked about how careful they had to be where they pointed it, and
demonstrated by tossing a minivan around like a leaf, totalling it in less
than a second.)
Douglas Berry
called by some "sharon" <*...@....com> came forth and told this tale
in alt.atheism
>1. The active ingredient in Coke is phosphoric acid. Its pH is 2.8. It
>will dissolve a nail in about four days. Phosphoric acid also leaches
>calcium from bones and is a major contributor to the rising increase in
>osteoporosis.
Well, it's a good thing that my body processes it in less than 12
hours!
>2. To carry Coca-Cola syrup (the concentrate) the commercial truck must
>use the Hazardous Material place cards reserved for highly corrosive
>materials.
So does a truck carrying mustard.
>3. The distributors of coke have been using it to clean the engines of
>their trucks for about 20 years!
BS. I used to work for a bottler. The mechanics used industrial
solvents and a steam gun.
>Now the question is, would YOU like a glass of water or coke?
I'm drinking a Coke right now.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
Douglas Berry
called by some Mekkala <joremovedath...@attbi.com> came
forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
>On 03 Dec 2003, "sharon" <*...@....com> screwed up his face, groaned,
>pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
>news:9fcfde84074260ea...@news.secureusenet.com:
>
><snip>
>
>Hey... sorry I called you a fucking moron. I'm trying to quit smoking and
>I'm a bit nasty, if that's an excuse. But most of this is discredited
>urban legends and Coke really ain't as dangerous as all that.
Take your cigarette money, and put it aside. Realizing how much cash
you wasted on smoking really helps. When my mom quit she did this,
and six months later was at Club Med Yucatan. Seriously.
Douglas Berry
called by some Hector <Mel...@Dithyrambic.com> came forth and told
this tale in alt.atheism
> I prayed for deliverance from smoking (1 1/2 packs a day for
>18 years), after having tried myself without previous success. I have
>not touched cigarettes in the ten years since. By God's grace I was
>able to quite with marginal, if any, withdrawal symptoms, and I only
>gained 5 pounds afterwards.
And what about the God who created this insidiously poisonous,
addictive substance to begin with? Never blamed him for starting the
whole problem?
Graham Kennedy
> Graham Kennedy <gra...@ditl.org> wrote in
> news:107049424...@iris.uk.clara.net:
>
>
>>No 33 Secretary wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Graham Kennedy <gra...@ditl.org> wrote in
>>>news:107048913...@iris.uk.clara.net:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>No 33 Secretary wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>3. To clean a toilet: Pour a can of Coca-Cola into the toilet bowl
>>>>>>>>and let the "real thing" sit for one hour, then flush clean. The
>>>>>>>>citric acid in Coke removes stains from vitreous china.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I've worked for a plumbing contractor. Bullshit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This *does* work with vinegar, though. Did it myself
>>>>>>just the other day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>To a degree, yes, it does. There are other de-calcifiers that have
>>>>>the same chemical, only stronger, that work much better.
>>>>
>>>>Not in my local supermarket there aren't. But a litre
>>>>of vinegar worked brilliantly.
>>>>
>>>
>>>You need a better supermarket.
>>
>>Could well be. I don't suppose they'll build one just
>>because I ask, though.
>>
>
> As an alternative, you might try a local plumbing store, or hardware store.
> Both usually carry such products, and usually the better quality ones.
Yes, alas neither one exists within convinient distance of me.
--
Graham Kennedy
Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org
Hector
<pengu...@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
>Lo, many moons past, on Wed, 03 Dec 2003 13:16:59 -0800, a stranger
>called by some Hector <Mel...@Dithyrambic.com> came forth and told
>this tale in alt.atheism
>
>> I prayed for deliverance from smoking (1 1/2 packs a day for
>>18 years), after having tried myself without previous success. I have
>>not touched cigarettes in the ten years since. By God's grace I was
>>able to quite with marginal, if any, withdrawal symptoms, and I only
>>gained 5 pounds afterwards.
>
>And what about the God who created this insidiously poisonous,
>addictive substance to begin with? Never blamed him for starting the
>whole problem?
Perhaps it has some medicinal benefit? Recent studies have
concluded that some compounds found in tobacco may be able remediate
certain infirmities:
http://www.washtimes.com/upi-breaking/20031112-074000-2189r.htm
Respectfully,
Hector
Malachi
>
> I prayed for deliverance from smoking (1 1/2 packs a day for
> 18 years), after having tried myself without previous success. I have
> not touched cigarettes in the ten years since. By God's grace I was
> able to quite with marginal, if any, withdrawal symptoms, and I only
> gained 5 pounds afterwards.
>
Congratulations!
I quit after smoking 2 packs a day for nearly 20 years. No patches and no
praying.
I turned it over to my watch. Divided a 16 hour day by 20 cigarettes and
set my watch's timer to it. The next day I divided a 16 hour day by 19
cigarettes and set the timer to that. After I worked down to 5 cigarettes
I threw away the cigarettes I had left and just quit.
I had no withdrawal symptoms. I did have to stay busy though.
Anyway, congrats.
Marcus
Mike Painter
You have to have a few drinks first. Then the gag reflex is gone and you can
inhale the water with ease.
At that point, even with ALS (Advanced Life Support) right there you are
probably dead.
The lungs are full and there is not much chance of an air exchange.
There is a solution but it is fighting the same battle wrt drowning that it
did with choking many years ago.
http://www.heimlichinstitute.org/maneuver.html
"A five-year study finds that the survival rate among unconscious,
non-breathing drowning victims who received the Heimlich Maneuver first is
greater than 96 percent, a sharp contrast to the 42 percent mortality rate
associated with CPR in earlier research. The study also confirms that air
can not enter water-filled lungs and shows that breathing almost always
resumes automatically once water is expelled from victims? lungs. CPR is
necessary in only a few of the cases studied."
I have yet to attend a class where drowning is discussed that has heard this
information.
Pass it on.
Mekkala
face, groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
Thank you, I certainly will and I will remember that, since I know how
to perform both CPR and the Heimlich maneuver -- good to know which one
to use. Actually, when you think about it, it makes sense -- the
Heimlich maneuver is much more effective at emptying your lungs than CPR
is.
Hector
I stopped smoking cold-turkey, to be colloquial about it; I
did not wean myself from the habit. Your system is admirably clever,
however, and commendable.
>Anyway, congrats.
>
Thanks. To you, as well.
Respectfully,
Hector
sharon
"No 33 Secretary" <taustin...@hyperbooks.com> wrote in message
news:Xns94476320B63E0ta...@216.168.3.50...
> > I have heard from medical folks, on the radio, that there's something
> > about soft drinks, which will interefere with with calcium in bones.
> > (They said to encourage your daughters to avoid soft drinks -- fear of
> > Osteoporosis in latter life.)
>
> They're idiots.
I don't think so.
There's a lot of propagating going on.
Searched the web for soft drinks osteoporosis calcium. Results 1 - 10 of
about 22,000.
Osteoporosis Information - Causes, Prevention, Treatment, Risk ...
... heavy alcohol, caffeine and high phosphate soft drink use ... conditions
which increase
the chance of osteoporosis:rheumatoid arthritis ... Get adequate calcium
(1000 mg ...
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osteoporosis,
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Thirsty? Elementary students at risk for osteoporosis
... One of the students' concerns was the link between soft drinks and
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... girls consume the recommended amount of calcium each day ... Soft drinks
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No 33 Secretary
news:4db593cf73a58bfd...@news.secureusenet.com:
>
> "No 33 Secretary" <taustin...@hyperbooks.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns94476320B63E0ta...@216.168.3.50...
>> "sharon" <*...@....com> wrote in
>> news:1ed50aa0e36c30ea...@news.secureusenet.com:
>
>> > I have heard from medical folks, on the radio, that there's
>> > something about soft drinks, which will interefere with with
>> > calcium in bones. (They said to encourage your daughters to avoid
>> > soft drinks -- fear of Osteoporosis in latter life.)
>>
>> They're idiots.
>
> I don't think so.
>
> There's a lot of propagating going on.
> Searched the web for soft drinks osteoporosis calcium. Results 1 - 10
> of about 22,000.
That there are many similar idiots does not make them any less idiotic.
>
>
> Osteoporosis Information - Causes, Prevention, Treatment, Risk ...
> ... heavy alcohol, caffeine and high phosphate soft drink use ...
^^^^
Not one or two Cokes a day. Or even four or five, I'll bet.
<Buncha idioticy or out of context shit snipped>
Drinking too much of _anything_ is bad for you. Drinking too much _water_
will kill you. You might as well blame the water company, and recommend
people not drink water.
Idiot.
sharon
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/w/watervscoke.htm
Summary of eRumor:
There are several versions of emails circulating on the Internet about
Coca-Cola. Some criticize it from a nutritional and health standpoint.
Others, such as the one below, depict it as a kind of cleaning fluid that
people drink as a beverage. Some versions also contrast that with the
suggested health benefits of water.
The Truth:
There is a list of allegations. We'll try to take them one at a time.
Refer to the full version below for the details.
For information on the water portion of any emails that compare Coke versus
water, click here
Critics of Coke (and some other soft drinks) say that if the beverages will
do corrosive things, why drink them?
Defenders, including the folks at Coca-Cola, say there are many foods that
have substances like acids in them such as fruit juices and buttermilk, and
that the body seems to handle them just fine. The operative substance is
phosphoric acid, which, in pure form, can eat through metal. Edible acids,
however, should not be compared with them, according to the defenders.
Here is the list. If you have any of the answers, let us know:
1. The highway patrol carrying Coke to clean up blood at car accidents.
Unproven! (Help us out) If this is true, we haven't found it.
2. A t-bone steak will be eaten away by Coke in two days. Unproven! (Help
us out)
3. Clean a toilet with Coke. Truth! According to
www.howtocleananything.com, the popular household hint guru Mary Ellen says
some coke in the toilet for an hour can do the trick.
4. Remove stains from vitreous china. Truth! According to columnist
Heloise.
5. Use Coke and a ball of aluminum foil for rust on chrome. Truth!
According to Joey Greene's www.wackyuses.com
6. Clean corrosion from car battery terminals. Truth! This is true of a
lot of carbonated beverages.
7. Use a Coke-soaked cloth to loosen a rusted bolt. Truth! According to
Mary Ellen.
8. Use a can of Coke in a load of greasy laundry. Truth! According to
Mary Ellen.
9. Dissolve a nail in 4 days in Coke. Unproven! (Help us out)
10. Hazardous materials signs are required on trucks carrying Coke
concentrate.
TruthOrFiction.com reader Marilyn writes:
"My husband and I drive the big rigs and often carried Pepsi products...and
it is true of all soda in the concentrated form...YES we did have to put the
hazardous placards up for the load. Also the driver has to have passed the
hazardous material test and have that on his CDL's (Commercial Driver's
License
"sharon" <*...@....com> wrote in message
news:9fcfde84074260ea...@news.secureusenet.com...
>
> WATER
>
> 1. 75% of Americans are chronically dehydrated. (Likely applies to half
> world population.)
>
> 2. In 37% of Americans, the thirst mechanism is so weak that it is often
> mistaken for hunger.
>
> 3. Even MILD dehydration will slow down one's metabolism as much as 3%.
>
> 4. One glass of water will shut down midnight hunger pangs for almost
> 100% of the dieters studied in a University of Washington study.
>
> 5. Lack of water, the #1 trigger of daytime fatigue.
>
> 6. Preliminary research indicates that 8-10 glasses of water a day could
> significantly ease back and joint pain for up to 80% of sufferers.
>
> 7. A mere 2% drop in body water can trigger fuzzy short-term memory,
> trouble with basic math, and difficulty focusing on the computer screen
> or on a printed page.
>
> 8. Drinking 5 glasses of water daily decreases the risk of colon cancer
> by 45%, plus it can slash the risk of breast cancer by 79%, and one is
> 50%less likely to develop bladder cancer. Are you drinking the amount of
> water you should every day?
>
>
> COKE
>
> 1. In many states (in the USA) the highway patrol carries two gallons of
> Coke in the trunk to remove blood from the highway after a car accident.
>
> 2. You can put a T-bone steak in a bowl of coke and it will be gone in
> two days.
>
> 3. To clean a toilet: Pour a can of Coca-Cola into the toilet bowl and
> let the "real thing" sit for one hour, then flush clean. The citric acid
> in Coke removes stains from vitreous china.
>
> 4. To remove rust spots from chrome car bumpers: Rub the bumper with a
> rumpled-up piece of Reynolds Wrap aluminum foil dipped in Coca-Cola.
>
> 5. To clean corrosion from car battery terminals: Pour a can of Coca-Cola
> over the terminals to bubble away the corrosion.
>
> 6. To loosen a rusted bolt: Apply a cloth soaked in Coca-Cola to the
> rusted bolt for several minutes.
>
> 7. To bake a moist ham: Empty a can of Coca-Cola into the baking pan,
> wrap the ham in aluminum foil, and bake. Thirty minutes before the ham is
> finished, remove the foil, allowing the drippings to mix with the Coke
> for sumptuous brown gravy.
>
> 8. To remove grease from clothes: Empty a can of coke into a load of
> greasy clothes, add detergent, and run through a regular cycle. The
> Coca-Cola will help loosen grease stains. It will also clean road haze
> from your windshield.
>
>
> FOR YOUR INFORMATION:
>
> 1. The active ingredient in Coke is phosphoric acid. Its pH is 2.8. It
> will dissolve a nail in about four days. Phosphoric acid also leaches
> calcium from bones and is a major contributor to the rising increase in
> osteoporosis.
>
> 2. To carry Coca-Cola syrup (the concentrate) the commercial truck must
> use the Hazardous Material place cards reserved for highly corrosive
> materials.
>
> 3. The distributors of coke have been using it to clean the engines of
> their trucks for about 20 years!
>
> Now the question is, would YOU like a glass of water or coke?
>
> - Author Unknown
>
>
sharon
----- Original Message -----
From: "ed babinski"
To: "Sharon Mooney"
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: OT: Water or Coke
Terry Austin is right, it's just some anti-Coke spam that I had passed
along to you and some other efriends.
Certain truths remain however, Coke is nothing but tooth rot in a bottle,
and phosphoric acid activity joins with and disables important body
nutrients, and Coke is sold round the world to poor people as a taste of
America, they work all day and spend half their pitiful salaries on a can
of this tooth rotting substance. Lastly, Coke, Inc., is one of those
corporations that doesn't sell anything but it takes in money from round
the world where people "buy into" the franchise. Each country's sugar and
other products are used in making the cola, but a large hunk of the
profits go to America, thereby robbing countries of their wealth which
goes to America, and turning that country's natural resources into tooth
rot. Coke, Inc., sells an image, they say "Coke Adds Life" when it's
truer to say it adds the opposite. THAT'S why I happened to pass along
that bit of junk mail. Sorry, I hadn't even read the whole thing or
critiqued it like the fellow below did (quite a good critique, I applaud
it).
Best, Ed
sharon
"Hector" <Mel...@Dithyrambic.com> wrote in message
People of all religious faiths, including Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims,
Christians of all persuasions, Jews, -- have all quit smoking, and many
might would give thanks to their God. (I am a deist, and I believe in a
universalist god... a God that loves everyone, and does not require any to
subscribe to a certain religion or doctrinal creed... "God doesn't have a
religion", is how Gandhi put it, I think.)
I find it beautiful when a person can believe in themself too. That's the
biggest obstacle in life I've came across. To believe in one's self enough
and make good things happen? Believing in God, blind faith is far easier and
far less productive... too easy. No effort required.
Others have posted, and they're right --- give yourself some credit. You
were the one who did it. Your coughers hack (cough, cough, cough, cough,
couggghhhh, cough, cough) and your wife's aggravation with it.. probably
convicted you quicker than God did.
No 33 Secretary
news:9fcfde84074260ea...@news.secureusenet.com:
> 1. In many states (in the USA) the highway patrol carries two gallons of
> Coke in the trunk to remove blood from the highway after a car accident.
>
> 2. To carry Coca-Cola syrup (the concentrate) the commercial truck must
> use the Hazardous Material place cards reserved for highly corrosive
> materials.
>
So you accuse the highway patrol of many states of committing federal
crimes by allowing a hazardous material to drain into the ditches?
Jesus, people, _think_ about this shit before you post it.
Mike Painter
> On 04 Dec 2003, "Mike Painter" <mdotp...@att.net> screwed up his
> face, groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
> news:3oNzb.390086$0v4.19...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>
> > >> >> >
myself there a lot and say "Why didn't I think of that?" or the usegroup
programming version "Why didn't I think of that *before* I asked for help?"
Mike Painter
>
> > 2. To carry Coca-Cola syrup (the concentrate) the commercial truck must
> > use the Hazardous Material place cards reserved for highly corrosive
> > materials.
I've never seen those placards on McDonalds trucks which usually carry well
over the weight limit of the syrup. ( This is a nasty little hazmat secret.
You can transport some really nasty stuff as long as the weight limit of the
class is not reached. Yes, this means I can carry in one truck a whole lot
of bad stuff with no placards.)
FYI the cards are generic in nature. There will be a number on the card that
is used to reference (from a distance) exactly what the material is.
Mike Painter
"sharon" <*...@....com> wrote in message
>
> 1. The highway patrol carrying Coke to clean up blood at car accidents.
> Unproven! (Help us out) If this is true, we haven't found it.
hazarourdous material.
> 2. A t-bone steak will be eaten away by Coke in two days. Unproven!
(Help
> us out)
False. Watch mythbusters on TV
> 3. Clean a toilet with Coke. Truth! According to
> www.howtocleananything.com, the popular household hint guru Mary Ellen
says
> some coke in the toilet for an hour can do the trick.
A meaningless statement. How much coke? What was done other than pour it in?
How effective is it when compared with using nothing or any other soft
drink?
> 5. Use Coke and a ball of aluminum foil for rust on chrome. Truth!
Answered before. Pay attention.
> According to Joey Greene's www.wackyuses.com
> 6. Clean corrosion from car battery terminals. Truth! This is true of
a
> lot of carbonated beverages.
And water and any number of other items.
> 7. Use a Coke-soaked cloth to loosen a rusted bolt. Truth! According
to
> Mary Ellen.
False according to those who have done it.
Easy to try your self, or again watch mythbusters.
> 8. Use a can of Coke in a load of greasy laundry. Truth! According to
> Mary Ellen.
> 9. Dissolve a nail in 4 days in Coke. Unproven! (Help us out)
False Mythbusters.
> 10. Hazardous materials signs are required on trucks carrying Coke
> concentrate.
>
> TruthOrFiction.com reader Marilyn writes:
> "My husband and I drive the big rigs and often carried Pepsi
products...and
> it is true of all soda in the concentrated form...YES we did have to put
the
> hazardous placards up for the load. Also the driver has to have passed the
> hazardous material test and have that on his CDL's (Commercial Driver's
> License
>
Highly suspect. If she is a driver she should know that the important thing
is the 4 digit number that is placard on the placard. That is what we look
for.
Since "Pepsi products" covers a huge range I'd ask what she was carrying.
Also I've never seen the card on McDonalds trucks which carry the same
concentrate in amounts that would require the concentrate.
sharon
"Mike Painter" <mdotp...@att.net> wrote in message
news:IbQzb.151168$Ec1.5...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
I don't know. Stinky issue. They had on their site "Help us out"...
:)
"Clayton Driving His Temple Into The Money Changers"
"Therion Ware" <autod...@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
news:83lssv0dh82mqf9lp...@4ax.com...
>
>
> On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:00:37 +0000 (UTC) in alt.atheism, martin
> ("martin" <martin...@btinternet.com>) said, directing the reply to
> alt.atheism
>
>
>
> >
> >
> >> Did you know that a *single glass* of the substance dihydrogen monoxide
> >> can KILL you? And did you know that the average house contains many
> >> *gallons* of this substance at any given time?
> >
> >
> >*snikker*
> >
> >I got my ex to make the anhydrous copper sulphate test for DHMO in the
> >effluent pipe from her factory, almost caused a strike. But then she was
a
> >lumber mill operator in Canada
> >
> >lol
>
> Interestingly though, drinking too much water can kill you. Apparently
> it upsets the sodium balance or something causing "hyponatraemia".
I think that's what happens when teenagers at raves have an "Ecstacy death".
> --
> "Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
> - Attrib: Pauline Reage.
> Inexpensive VHS & other video to CD/DVD conversion?
> See: <http://www.Video2CD.com>. 35.00 gets your video on DVD.
> all posts to this email address are automatically deleted without being
read.
> ** atheist poster child #1 ** #442.
Al Klein
posted in alt.atheism:
>Oh, yeah I forgot about that we do occasionally but we see very few
>accidents in our district.
You're lucky. I saw 3 multi-vehicle accidents on the way home this
evening. Dry pavement.
The forecast for tomorrow through Saturday night is a winter mix
(snow, sleet, freezing rain and rain) with accumulations to 6 inches.
Temperatures dropping below freezing with 30-35mph winds. I wonder
how many accidents I'll see on the way home tomorrow night.
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Al Klein
<taustin...@hyperbooks.com> posted in alt.atheism:
>(As a side note, I caught a piece on some cable network last night about a
>fire boat that pumps some thousands of pounds of water per second. They
>talked about how careful they had to be where they pointed it, and
>demonstrated by tossing a minivan around like a leaf, totalling it in less
>than a second.)
Aside from the fact that it's a boat, that sounds like NYC's
Superpumper system.
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numerous stupidities, for which only He Himself can be held responsible; in my opinion,
only His nonexistence could excuse Him."
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Al Klein
<taustin...@hyperbooks.com> posted in alt.atheism:
>Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote in
>news:n7dtsv8md9ff7qt9r...@Pern.rk:
>> On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 20:50:25 GMT, "Mike Painter" <mdotp...@att.net>
>> posted in alt.atheism:
>>>> > 1. In many states (in the USA) the highway patrol carries two
>>>> > gallons of Coke in the trunk to remove blood from the highway
>>>> > after a car accident.
[snip]
>> Your fire departments don't do washdowns?
>If they did, they'd use chemicals certified to work correctly, and
>certified to not do even more environmental damage if used properly.
For blood? Water. Maybe hydrogen peroxide if they're feeling
paranoid.
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The ones that learn by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence.
- (Will Rogers)
Al Klein
posted in alt.atheism:
>I think the deal with coke (and other sodas) is the effect of carbonation...
>all that CO2 in solution results in a fair amount of carbonic acid. When
>you first open the can, the pH is extremely low, less than 2 as I recall.
>Almost immediately, some of the CO2 comes out of solution, driving the pH
>up. But the thing is, even if you grabbed a sip when the pH was very low,
>it still doesn't burn you because the ionic strength is so low. That is,
>even though the solution is very acidic, the total number of ions floating
>around is relatively small so you still don't get burned.
Kind of similar to 1,000 degrees of temperature with almost no heat.
>sharon, aa #2153 (the "other" sharon)
You DO need that qualification these days, don't you?
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Al Klein
alt.atheism:
>It didn't feel like that to me. Although you're probably right about
>starting up the nicotine flow after detoxing, I believe it takes a little
>longer - maybe two weeks to get "clean". But the nagging anxiety attacks
>accompanied by that physical "burning" feeling in my head that only a
>cigarette could quench hung on for about a year, although with less
>potency and frequency as time passed. Perhaps that is a psychosomatic
>ailment
Psychological addiction. I still reach for my pocket once or twice a
year.
>Almost three years now for me.
Good for you. Make it 30.
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solve them."
-Isaac Asimov
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The ones that learn by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence.
- (Will Rogers)
Diederik
> No 33 Secretary wrote:
>
> > "sharon" <*...@....com> wrote in
> > news:9fcfde84074260ea...@news.secureusenet.com:
> >
> >>Coke in the trunk to remove blood from the highway after a car accident.
> >
> >
> >
> >>2. You can put a T-bone steak in a bowl of coke and it will be gone in
> >>two days.
> >
> >
> > http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/tooth.asp
> >
> >>3. To clean a toilet: Pour a can of Coca-Cola into the toilet bowl and
> >>let the "real thing" sit for one hour, then flush clean. The citric acid
> >>in Coke removes stains from vitreous china.
> >
> >
>
> This *does* work with vinegar, though. Did it myself
> just the other day.
Piggybacking.
And citric acid is the functional ingredient in all those orange clean products.
Diederik
August Pamplona
Fascinating!
August Pamplona
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Weatherwax
"Douglas Berry" <pengu...@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote
> Hector <Mel...@Dithyrambic.com>
>
> > I prayed for deliverance from smoking (1 1/2 packs
> > a day for 18 years), after having tried myself without
> > previous success. I have not touched cigarettes in
> > the ten years since. By God's grace I was able to
> > quite with marginal, if any, withdrawal symptoms, and
> > I only gained 5 pounds afterwards.
>
> And what about the God who created this insidiously
> poisonous, addictive substance to begin with? Never
> blamed him for starting the whole problem?
Tobacco was a mistake. God said so himself. See the movie "Oh
God."
--
Wax
Beowulf
>5. To clean corrosion from car battery terminals: Pour a can of Coca-Cola
>over the terminals to bubble away the corrosion.
I'm sure others will chime in on how stupid your other Coke statements
are, so I'll focus on this one.
The corrosion on battery terminals is crystalized acid. To clean it
off, you need to neutralize it. You don't neutralize an acid with
another (weak) acid solution, but with an alkaline one, such as baking
soda and distilled water.
It may bubble when you dump Coke on your car battery, but it's most
likely the water in the Coke that's doing anything.
>7. To bake a moist ham: Empty a can of Coca-Cola into the baking pan,
>wrap the ham in aluminum foil, and bake. Thirty minutes before the ham is
>finished, remove the foil, allowing the drippings to mix with the Coke
>for sumptuous brown gravy.
You know that meat will be tenderized in the presence of any mild
acidic solution (such as orange juice, wine, beer, soy sauce), right?
>1. The active ingredient in Coke is phosphoric acid. Its pH is 2.8. It
>will dissolve a nail in about four days. Phosphoric acid also leaches
>calcium from bones and is a major contributor to the rising increase in
>osteoporosis.
The "active ingredient" in Coke, if there could even be said to be one
is caffeine. It's the only psychoactive chemical in Coke (unless you
consider high fructose corn syrup to be psychoactive - it certainly
seems to have a psychoactive effect on my 3 yr old).
--
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Beowulf
ejaculated:
>On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 19:53:14 -0000, No 33 Secretary
><taustin...@hyperbooks.com> posted in alt.atheism:
>
>>"sharon" <*...@....com> wrote in
>>news:9fcfde84074260ea...@news.secureusenet.com:
>
>>> FOR YOUR INFORMATION:
>
>>> 1. The active ingredient in Coke is phosphoric acid. Its pH is 2.8. It
>>> will dissolve a nail in about four days. Phosphoric acid also leaches
>>> calcium from bones and is a major contributor to the rising increase in
>>> osteoporosis.
>
>>If Coke had a pH of 2.8, it would burn your mouth to the point of bleeding
>>within seconds, and kill you shortly after you swallowed.
>
>I think the claim is that pure phosphoric acid has a pH of 2.8. The
>amount of it in a can of Coke barely lowers the pH of the Coke.
The pH is probably more effected by the dissolved CO2 (which turns
into carbonic acid in solution) than the phosphoric acid. Why is
there phosphoric acid in Coke, anyway? Is it to give it that extra
zing in the mouth and throat?
Beowulf
ejaculated:
>On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 05:59:22 GMT, "Mike Painter" <mdotp...@att.net>
>posted in alt.atheism:
>
>>Oh, yeah I forgot about that we do occasionally but we see very few
>>accidents in our district.
>
>You're lucky. I saw 3 multi-vehicle accidents on the way home this
>evening. Dry pavement.
>
>The forecast for tomorrow through Saturday night is a winter mix
>(snow, sleet, freezing rain and rain) with accumulations to 6 inches.
>Temperatures dropping below freezing with 30-35mph winds. I wonder
>how many accidents I'll see on the way home tomorrow night.
You don't happen to drive the I-495 Beltway, do you?
sharon
"Beowulf" <beowulf_i...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:n3a1tvkc2sv6kfaa3...@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 19:36:46 GMT, "sharon" <*...@....com> :
> The "active ingredient" in Coke, if there could even be said to be one
> is caffeine. It's the only psychoactive chemical in Coke (unless you
> consider high fructose corn syrup to be psychoactive - it certainly
> seems to have a psychoactive effect on my 3 yr old).
>
http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/cocaine.asp
Claim: Coca-Cola used to contain cocaine.
Status: True.
Origins: Coca-Cola
was named back in 1885 for its two "medicinal" ingredients: extract of coca
leaves and kola nuts. Just how much cocaine was originally in the
formulation is hard to determine, but the drink undeniably contained some
cocaine in its early days. Frederick Allen describes the public attitude
towards cocaine that existed as Coca-Cola's developers worked on perfecting
their formula in 1891:
The first stirrings of a national debate had begun over the negative aspects
of cocaine, and manufacturers were growing defensive over charges that use
of their products might lead to "cocainism" or the "cocaine habit". The
full-throated fury against cocaine was still a few years off, and Candler
and Robinson were anxious to continue promoting the supposed benefits of the
coca leaf, but there was no reason to risk putting more than a tiny bit of
coca extract in their syrup. They cut the amount to a mere trace.
No 33 Secretary
> On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 17:46:21 -0000, No 33 Secretary
> <taustin...@hyperbooks.com> posted in alt.atheism:
>
>>Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote in
>>news:n7dtsv8md9ff7qt9r...@Pern.rk:
>>> On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 20:50:25 GMT, "Mike Painter" <mdotp...@att.net>
>>> posted in alt.atheism:
>
>>>>> > 1. In many states (in the USA) the highway patrol carries two
>>>>> > gallons of Coke in the trunk to remove blood from the highway
>>>>> > after a car accident.
> [snip]
>>> Your fire departments don't do washdowns?
>
>>If they did, they'd use chemicals certified to work correctly, and
>>certified to not do even more environmental damage if used properly.
>
> For blood? Water. Maybe hydrogen peroxide if they're feeling
> paranoid.
Water. Hydrogen Peroxide is not a friendly chemical.
No 33 Secretary
news:a012326d.03120...@posting.google.com:
Not all. Very common, but so is phosphoric, and a few other chemicals.
Al Klein
<beowulf_i...@hotmail.com> posted in alt.atheism:
>The pH is probably more effected by the dissolved CO2 (which turns
>into carbonic acid in solution) than the phosphoric acid.
That would depend on the relative pHs of the two acids, IIRC.
> Why is there phosphoric acid in Coke, anyway? Is it to give it that extra
>zing in the mouth and throat?
Not a clue. I'm not a food chemist.
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- Treaty of Tripoli, 1797, ratified by Congress
ArWeGod
>
> >will dissolve a nail in about four days. Phosphoric acid also leaches
> >calcium from bones and is a major contributor to the rising increase in
> >osteoporosis.
>
> The "active ingredient" in Coke, if there could even be said to be one
> is caffeine. It's the only psychoactive chemical in Coke (unless you
> consider high fructose corn syrup to be psychoactive - it certainly
> seems to have a psychoactive effect on my 3 yr old).
I had a friend who drank a huge amount of cokes a day - "more than most
people, even".
So when I heard the "coke will dissolve a nail" story I put a nail in a
glass of coke. I think I dumped it out about 2 months later. The nail was
slightly discolored. Certainly, there was no change in size. I hammered into
a piece of wood to check it wasn't internally corrupted. It came though just
fine. I mean, it's sugar water, you know.
Tom Kennedy
"August Pamplona" <necatoramericanusa...@mail.com> wrote in message news:<vt065ji...@corp.supernews.com>...
Mekkala
groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
> Regarding the Heimlich maneuver for drowning rescue:
>
> http://complaint.active.ws
While this may be true, and is likely a cause for concern if it is, the
letter on that page is not signed, there are no references, in fact
there are no names on the entire page other than the addressees and the
physicians accused of fraud. Can't you give me a bit more to go on,
something that will assure me that the letter is indeed genuine and
written by a person qualified to investigate this type of thing?
--
Mekkala, Atheist #2148
"Atheism is ... the bed-rock of sanity in a world of madness."
--Emmett F. Fields
Beowulf
>
>"Beowulf" <beowulf_i...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:n3a1tvkc2sv6kfaa3...@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 19:36:46 GMT, "sharon" <*...@....com> :
>
>> The "active ingredient" in Coke, if there could even be said to be one
>> is caffeine. It's the only psychoactive chemical in Coke (unless you
>> consider high fructose corn syrup to be psychoactive - it certainly
>> seems to have a psychoactive effect on my 3 yr old).
>>
>
>http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/cocaine.asp
>
>Claim: Coca-Cola used to contain cocaine.
>
>Status: True.
*used* to. The formulation sold today has no traces of cocaine in it.
The closest thing to an "active ingredient" in Coke, *today* is
caffeine. By the way, caffeine is the same kind of drug as cocaine
is, just not as potent.
Of course, the War on (Some) Drugs folks would have you believe that
caffeine is perfectly benign whereas cocaine is the devil's own brew.
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- Benjamin Franklin
Beowulf
ejaculated:
I was quite disappointed when I performed this experiment as a child.
Tom Kennedy
> letter on that page is not signed
Incorrect. The letter is signed and contact information for the author is provided:
http://medicalfraud.freespeechsite.com/IOM-AHA-ARC_Conclusions.html
stoney
Message ID: <fcqvsv4f38ot7pfjc...@Pern.rk> wrote in
alt.atheism;
>On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 05:59:22 GMT, "Mike Painter" <mdotp...@att.net>
>posted in alt.atheism:
>
>>Oh, yeah I forgot about that we do occasionally but we see very few
>>accidents in our district.
>
>You're lucky. I saw 3 multi-vehicle accidents on the way home this
>evening. Dry pavement.
>
>The forecast for tomorrow through Saturday night is a winter mix
>(snow, sleet, freezing rain and rain) with accumulations to 6 inches.
>Temperatures dropping below freezing with 30-35mph winds. I wonder
>how many accidents I'll see on the way home tomorrow night.
Oldest daughter was on the way to work, (roads ice with layer of snow on
top) and slid off the road about a half mile from home. The tail end of
her car would have been on the shoulder with the front in a ditch. She
called home and the wife and I meandered out with the truck and pulled
her vehicle back on the road. The wife drove her to work in the truck
while I put the car in the garage. Daughter had just missed a small
tree. No damage to the vehicle.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
stoney
Message ID: <kmqvsv4mne3o4aq08...@Pern.rk> wrote in
alt.atheism;
>On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 17:46:21 -0000, No 33 Secretary
><taustin...@hyperbooks.com> posted in alt.atheism:
>
>>Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote in
>>news:n7dtsv8md9ff7qt9r...@Pern.rk:
>>> On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 20:50:25 GMT, "Mike Painter" <mdotp...@att.net>
>>> posted in alt.atheism:
>
>>>>> > 1. In many states (in the USA) the highway patrol carries two
>>>>> > gallons of Coke in the trunk to remove blood from the highway
>>>>> > after a car accident.
>[snip]
>>> Your fire departments don't do washdowns?
>
>>If they did, they'd use chemicals certified to work correctly, and
>>certified to not do even more environmental damage if used properly.
>
>For blood? Water. Maybe hydrogen peroxide if they're feeling
>paranoid.
Paranoid? (puzzled look)
No 33 Secretary
news:0ogktv8qd927eokqo...@4ax.com:
> On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 02:18:51 GMT, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid>,
> Message ID: <kmqvsv4mne3o4aq08...@Pern.rk> wrote in
> alt.atheism;
>
>>On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 17:46:21 -0000, No 33 Secretary
>><taustin...@hyperbooks.com> posted in alt.atheism:
>>
>>>Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote in
>>>news:n7dtsv8md9ff7qt9r...@Pern.rk:
>>>> On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 20:50:25 GMT, "Mike Painter" <mdotp...@att.net>
>>>> posted in alt.atheism:
>>
>>>>>> > 1. In many states (in the USA) the highway patrol carries two
>>>>>> > gallons of Coke in the trunk to remove blood from the highway
>>>>>> > after a car accident.
>>[snip]
>>>> Your fire departments don't do washdowns?
>>
>>>If they did, they'd use chemicals certified to work correctly, and
>>>certified to not do even more environmental damage if used properly.
>>
>>For blood? Water. Maybe hydrogen peroxide if they're feeling
>>paranoid.
>
> Paranoid? (puzzled look)
>
Water won't disinfect.
Al Klein
alt.atheism:
>Oldest daughter was on the way to work, (roads ice with layer of snow on
>top) and slid off the road about a half mile from home. The tail end of
>her car would have been on the shoulder with the front in a ditch. She
>called home and the wife and I meandered out with the truck and pulled
>her vehicle back on the road. The wife drove her to work in the truck
>while I put the car in the garage. Daughter had just missed a small
>tree. No damage to the vehicle.
I don't know who did it, but thank whomever for small favors. I'm
glad she's okay.
I slid into some plowed up and frozen snow on Monday. Must have bent
something. The car goes in for repairs tomorrow. I'm just hoping I
didn't total most of the front end.
Then the other car goes in for a new disk (bad runout) and alignment
(and an oil change).
It never ends.
--
"To surrender to ignorance and call it God has always been premature, and it remains
premature today."
- Isaac Asimov
Al Klein
alt.atheism:
>On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 02:18:51 GMT, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid>,
>Message ID: <kmqvsv4mne3o4aq08...@Pern.rk> wrote in
>alt.atheism;
>>For blood? Water. Maybe hydrogen peroxide if they're feeling
>>paranoid.
>Paranoid? (puzzled look)
Well, what's the proper word? Feeling that maybe the blood is
HIV-infected. Antsy? Scared?
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