Question for the ladies
a goy named boo
yours,
curious in cupertino
--
"The tired song is playing on the tired radio
And i won't tell no one you're lame
I won't tell `em you're lame"
- Goo Goo Dolls, "Lame"
Abby Franquemont-Guillory
a goy named boo <ro...@netcom.com> wrote:
>Do you set up an alias on your systems for "postmistress"?
>
>yours,
>curious in cupertino
You've made on fatal mistake in posting this question to a.s.r.:
There are no ladies in a.s.r. The job precludes such airs and
after you've been doing it a while, you're beyond hope.
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_________________________________________________________________________
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Michael Israeli
>Do you set up an alias on your systems for "postmistress"?
Well, one of the postmasters at Net Access is a woman. Hillary tells me
that it sounds like postmistress would mean she is having an affair with a
post.
--
Michael Israeli - iz...@izzy.com - http://www.izzy.com/~izzy/
bev
a goy named boo <ro...@netcom.com> wrote:
>Do you set up an alias on your systems for "postmistress"?
They'll only tell you if you're good.
You missed a spot on that thar boot, babe.
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make sound like VCR manual! -- tv 's Spatch
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Melanie Dymond Harper
Bryant Durrell <dur...@shellx.best.com> wrote:
>When my esteemed colleague Gretchen managed to get the evil forces at
>Netcom to give her a workstation[1], Bob Reiger himself came over to
>help her get it set up[2]. He insisted on setting the GECOS field on
>her workstation account to "Ms. UUCP." I think the whole femme
>sysadmin concept was new to him.
Femme sysadmin? Now there's something nobody's ever called me -- not
that they're specially likely to (as anyone at the lunchtime end of the
ASR London meet may well be able to verify)
Admittedly I do sign myself "listmistress" when dealing with mailing list
stuff, but that's mostly because I do get terribly tired of "Dear Sir,
I can't subscribe/I can't unsubscribe/I can't get articles from the
archives/..."
Cheers
Mel.
Bryant Durrell
a goy named boo <ro...@netcom.com> wrote:
>Do you set up an alias on your systems for "postmistress"?
When my esteemed colleague Gretchen managed to get the evil forces at
Netcom to give her a workstation[1], Bob Reiger himself came over to
help her get it set up[2]. He insisted on setting the GECOS field on
her workstation account to "Ms. UUCP." I think the whole femme
sysadmin concept was new to him.
[1] She spent two days without one, then gave up and went out and got
knitting needles and yarn. Our manager: "What are you *doing*?"
Gretchen: "Knitting. I don't have a workstation." Him: "...
I'll be right back." He came back with a workstation.
[2] Only fair; it was his workstation. He left his home directory
on it, with strict instructions not to peek. Alas, Gretchen is
not a BOFH.
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Jared Buntain
abb...@tezcat.com (Abby Franquemont-Guillory) wrote:
>In article <roneDMM...@netcom.com>,
>a goy named boo <ro...@netcom.com> wrote:
>>Do you set up an alias on your systems for "postmistress"?
>>
>>curious in cupertino
>
>You've made on fatal mistake in posting this question to a.s.r.:
>
>There are no ladies in a.s.r. The job precludes such airs and
>after you've been doing it a while, you're beyond hope.
C|N>K
Ahh, that was funny. Do you mind if I quote you there Abby?
:)
Jared Buntain "You have made a fatal mistake
Northwestern University, Evanston, IL. USA posting this question to A.S.R"
chan...@nwu.edu -Abby Franquemont-Guillory
Connection without Community. That sums up the problems of the 'Net pretty well.
Lusty Wench
Michael Israeli <iz...@izzy.com> wrote:
>In article <roneDMM...@netcom.com>, ro...@netcom.com (a goy named boo) wrote:
>
>>Do you set up an alias on your systems for "postmistress"?
>
>that it sounds like postmistress would mean she is having an affair with a
>post.
Or that she's beating the mail into submission.
Lusty
Kevin Stephens
> >Do you set up an alias on your systems for "postmistress"?
The last joint I worked had this lamer chick working there that
insisted she be refered to as Webmistress (Before anyone gets hot, she
was giant!). It was quite a battle, since she only did sales for the web
and really did no sys administration. Unfortunately I was the dumb lacky
who got to do the admin work, while she slaughtered the name and pissed
off customers.
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Debbie Schwartz
>Do you set up an alias on your systems for "postmistress"?
Nope. I set up one for "postshewhomustbeobeyed".
--
Debbie Schwartz d...@halcyon.com (Seattle, WA)
"That's why I'm not married - I'm devoting my life to being a
psychiatric patient. It's like being a nun, but more expensive."
-- Shelley Long in "The Cracker Factory"
Timothy J. Hunt
Liar!! ;o)
3 pipe .../~ > telnet coho.halcyon.com 25
Trying 198.137.231.21 ...
Connected to coho.halcyon.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 halcyon.com 5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 Sendmail is ready at Tue, 13 Feb 1996 06:16:44 -0800
HELO mailhost.pipex.net
250 Hello mailhost.pipex.net, pleased to meet you
vrfy postshewhomustbeobeyed
550 postshewhomustbeobeyed... User unknown
quit
221 halcyon.com closing connection
Connection closed by foreign host.
Timothy
--
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216 The Science Park, Cambridge, CB4 4WA UK. +44(0)1223 250121/2 (Fax/Voice)
[Disclaimer: I said the above, not Unipalm PIPEX]
And my name is Timothy *not* Tim! *sigh* [ENFP]
Brian Kantor
post-raisin-bran:postmaster
postfacto:postmaster
postgnome:postmaster
postgoddess:postmast
posthamster:postmaster
postmama:postmaster
postman:postmaster
postmaster:postmast
postminion:postmaster
postmistress:postmast
postmomma:postmaster
postmonster:postmast
postmortem:postmaster
postnobills:postmaster
postnostril:postmaster
postpartum:postmaster
postpeon:postmaster
postqueen:postmast
postslave:postmaster
postthang:postmaster
postthingy:postmaster
- Brian
managing system before you were born
Debbie Schwartz
>In article <4fq6im$6...@wave.news.pipex.net>,
>Timothy J. Hunt <timo...@pipex.net> wrote:
>>In article <4fp9fe$m...@news1.halcyon.com>,
>>Debbie Schwartz <d...@coho.halcyon.com> wrote:
>>>Nope. I set up one for "postshewhomustbeobeyed".
>>
>>Liar!! ;o)
>>
>>3 pipe .../~ > telnet coho.halcyon.com 25
>>Trying 198.137.231.21 ...
>>Connected to coho.halcyon.com.
>
>
>Wrong site Timothy. Halcyon is the ISP that Debbie and I use. It is not
>the sites that we admin. Not to speak for Debbie, who I have never had
>the pleasure to have met, but I don't want to have to deal with
>providing news locally to the lusers at my company. It is easier to
>point them off to another provider.
>
Yup. Timothy, the site where I *am* the postshewhomustbeobeyed is
behind a firewall, so you wouldn't be able to get to it anyway.
Martin H. Booda
posterior:postmaster ?
posthocergopropterhoc:postmaster ?
postholedigger:postmaster ?
posthumous:postmaster ?
postnasaldrip:postmaster ?
postpone:postmaster ?
postprandial:postmaster ?
--
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Ivor von Wolfsheim
>>postthingy:postmaster
>>
>What? No
>posterior:postmaster ?
Not to mention a conspicuous absence of
postbastard:postmaster
postbofh:postmaster
expostfacto:postmaster
&c.
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Deeran Peethamparam
> br...@nothing.ucsd.edu (Brian Kantor) wrote:
> > - Brian
> > managing system before you were born
> subtle than I had suspected?
<delurk>
Or he was managing the One and Only System at the time. :)
Deeran
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Wolfgang Schelongowski
>From our aliases file:
>post-raisin-bran:postmaster
>postfacto:postmaster
>postgnome:postmaster
>postgoddess:postmast
^^
You bobbitted a few others. Even worse, your list is not politically
correct, and in these days - the son-of-CDA just got signed - it is of
utmost importance to be PC. So you must add
postperson:postmaster
postperdaughter:postmaster
to your list.
> - Brian
> managing system before you were born
I don't think so :-)
--
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Mustela locuta, causa finita.
(With apologies to St. Chris)
Paul Tomblin
>On 11 Feb 1996, Abby Franquemont-Guillory wrote:
>
>> >Do you set up an alias on your systems for "postmistress"?
> The last joint I worked had this lamer chick working there that
>insisted she be refered to as Webmistress (Before anyone gets hot, she
>was giant!). It was quite a battle, since she only did sales for the web
One of the sites where I'm a news admin (yes, I'm a glutton for punishment) is
in Ottawa, the capital city of Canada. One of the lusers complained that
there was no french equivalents for postmaster, newsmaster, webmaster.
I gave him the URLs of several sites in France where the webmaster was
"webm...@foo.bar.fr" didn't dissuade him, so the sysadmin people set up
aliases. So I have to deal with mail to "nouvellesmatre" or whatever it is.
Fortunately, none has arrived.
--
Paul Tomblin, Contract Programmer.
I don't speak for Kodak, they don't speak for me.
(Email that is not work related should go to: ptom...@xcski.com)
"You are in a twisty maze of Motif Widget resources, all inconsistent."
Car
(Michael Israeli) wrote:
> In article <roneDMM...@netcom.com>, ro...@netcom.com (a goy named
boo) wrote:
>
> >Do you set up an alias on your systems for "postmistress"?
>
> Well, one of the postmasters at Net Access is a woman. Hillary tells me
> that it sounds like postmistress would mean she is having an affair with a
> post.
>
> --
> Michael Israeli - iz...@izzy.com - http://www.izzy.com/~izzy/
^^^Me thinks he's _BEGGIN'_ to be flame-broiled.
Car
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That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God."~I Corinthians 2:4-5.
Al Doende Leert Men
cwor...@cbis.ece.drexel.edu
Martin Hargreaves
><gor...@coho.halcyon.com (Gordon Baldwin)> spake thusly:
>>In article <4fq6im$6...@wave.news.pipex.net>,
>>Timothy J. Hunt <timo...@pipex.net> wrote:
>>>In article <4fp9fe$m...@news1.halcyon.com>,
>>>Debbie Schwartz <d...@coho.halcyon.com> wrote:
>>>>Nope. I set up one for "postshewhomustbeobeyed".
>>>
>>>Liar!! ;o)
>>>
>>>3 pipe .../~ > telnet coho.halcyon.com 25
>>>Trying 198.137.231.21 ...
>>>Connected to coho.halcyon.com.
>>
>>- SMTP to halcyon.com snipped.
>>
>>Wrong site Timothy. Halcyon is the ISP that Debbie and I use. It is not
>>the sites that we admin. Not to speak for Debbie, who I have never had
>>the pleasure to have met, but I don't want to have to deal with
>>providing news locally to the lusers at my company. It is easier to
>>point them off to another provider.
>>
>Yup. Timothy, the site where I *am* the postshewhomustbeobeyed is
>behind a firewall, so you wouldn't be able to get to it anyway.
Do I smell blind faith here?
M.
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Demon Whore of the Underworld
: In article <roneDMM...@netcom.com>, ro...@netcom.com (a goy named boo) wrote:
:
: >Do you set up an alias on your systems for "postmistress"?
:
: Well, one of the postmasters at Net Access is a woman. Hillary tells me
: that it sounds like postmistress would mean she is having an affair with a
: post.
postmatrix?
Lilith
Peter H. Coffin
tom...@ekfido.kodak.com (Paul Tomblin) writes:
> So I have to deal with mail to "nouvellesmatre" or whatever it is.
> Fortunately, none has arrived. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You misspelled -----------------> nouvellesmaitre
No wonder you haven't gotten any mail through those names...
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Stig Hemmer
> >From our aliases file:
> ^^
> You bobbitted a few others.
>postmaster:postmast
Which means that postmast is a correct address. (Unless, of course,
the intent is to make all postmaster mail bounce. Hmm, that _would_ be
in the BOFH spirit...)
> postperson:postmaster
> postperdaughter:postmaster
postperoffspring
Stig Hemmer aka st...@pvv.unit.no
pvv - ProgramVareVerkstedet ("The Software Workshop", a student society)
.unit - UNiversitetet I Trondheim
.no - NOrway, a minor kingdom in northern Europe. Yes in 2016!
Eric Sorenson
:
: ^^^Me thinks he's _BEGGIN'_ to be flame-broiled.
Methinks thou shouldst learn the wisdom of 80-column formatting.
:
: Car
:
: --
: "And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:
: That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God."~I Corinthians 2:4-5.
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Christian Mogensen
Christian
Jeff Mercer
>>Do you set up an alias on your systems for "postmistress"?
>You missed a spot on that thar boot, babe.
Hehehehe...
My wife did webmaster support for Alachua Freenet for a while, and she liked
to refer to herself as "webmistress". But she didn't consider it a serious
title, didn't demand it as an alias, or any other such sillyness...
rif...@afn.org : "Prince Of Darkness" (1987) A priest summons a professor
Jeff The Riffer : to an old church to see a canister of liquid Satan.
Drifter... : --TV Weekly Guide (Gainesville Sun)
Homo Postmortemus :
J.D. Falk
> On 16 Feb 1996, Demon Whore of the Underworld wrote:
>
> > Michael Israeli (iz...@izzy.com) wrote:
> > : In article <roneDMM...@netcom.com>, ro...@netcom.com (a goy named boo) wrote:
> > :
> > : >Do you set up an alias on your systems for "postmistress"?
> > :
> > : Well, one of the postmasters at Net Access is a woman. Hillary tells me
> > : that it sounds like postmistress would mean she is having an affair with a
> > : post.
> >
> > postmatrix?
>
> PostMATRIX????
>
> Hmmmm......[36,24,26]?
^^^^^^^^
Is that a reference to the Violent Femmes song by the same name,
or am I simply going insaner? ("I know this summer's gonna be the best/if
I don't die from lack of rest....")
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Sean B Purdy
imparted:
: : Well, one of the postmasters at Net Access is a woman. Hillary tells me
: postmatrix?
post-dominatrix?
Sean
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Peter Schaefer
>Car (cwor...@coe.drexel.edu) wrote:
>Methinks thou shouldst learn the wisdom of 80-column formatting.
>: "And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:
>: That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God."~I Corinthians 2:4-5.
>
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>
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He probably got inspired by his newsreaders(netscape?)
"Your message exceeds the recommended 2 lines for signatures" -message.
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Paul S. Sawyer
>
>Hehehehe...
>
>My wife did webmaster support for Alachua Freenet for a while, and she liked
>to refer to herself as "webmistress". But she didn't consider it a serious
>title, didn't demand it as an alias, or any other such sillyness...
I'd rather not use the "feminine form" of many titles - they sometimes
sound diminutive or pejorative and may have originally been meant that
way. "Waiter" or "Actor", for instance, are not inherently male, except
by someone having felt the need to form "Waitress" and "Actress". It
seems actors, anyway, are trying to simply use "Actor" (but that may
have been a thespian, so.... ;-)
Just remember, the first webmaster was female... her first home page
said "Some Pig" and was regularly updated....
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Richard Owain Hughes
Sean B Purdy <se...@fastnet.co.uk> wrote:
>Recently, the esteemed Demon Whore of the Underworld, lil...@the.satanic.org,
>imparted:
Sounds like an Asterix character. You could also have BOFHix.
Grim
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Piotr Piatkowski
[...]
: >postman:postmaster
: >postmaster:postmast
[...]
Don't forget about postperson! :-)
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An infinite number of monkeys in the guise of J.D. Falk
> Recently, the esteemed Demon Whore of the Underworld, lil...@the.satanic.org,
> imparted:
>
> : : Well, one of the postmasters at Net Access is a woman. Hillary tells me
>
> : postmatrix?
>
> post-dominatrix?
...also known in some circles as a bloody pulp.
> Sean B Purdy, system administrator se...@fastnet.co.uk
> +++ ????? +++ Out to Lunch Error. Redo from Start.
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Anne Bennett
>>
>> post-raisin-bran:postmaster
>> postfacto:postmaster
>> postgnome:postmaster
>> postgoddess:postmast
>> postmama:postmaster
>> postman:postmaster
>> postmaster:postmast
>> postminion:postmaster
>> postmistress:postmast
>> postmomma:postmaster
>> postmonster:postmast
>> postmortem:postmaster
>> postnobills:postmaster
>> postnostril:postmaster
>> postpartum:postmaster
>> postpeon:postmaster
>> postqueen:postmast
>> postslave:postmaster
>> postthang:postmaster
>> postthingy:postmaster
bo...@datasync.com (Martin H. Booda) writes:
>
> posterior:postmaster ?
> posthocergopropterhoc:postmaster ?
> postholedigger:postmaster ?
> posthumous:postmaster ?
> postnasaldrip:postmaster ?
> postpone:postmaster ?
> postprandial:postmaster ?
postingsillynesstousenet:postmaster
Anne.
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(Administrator for Concordia University mail relay and news transfer)
Anne Bennett
>
> Admittedly I do sign myself "listmistress" when dealing with mailing list
> stuff, but that's mostly because I do get terribly tired of "Dear Sir,
I put "Ms." in my signature, even at the risk of sounding stuffy, to give a
clue to foreign students who might not know that "Anne" is a woman's name.
I *still* get replies to my mail, addressed to "Dear Mr. Bennett". Sigh.
BTW, I *do* have the following on the smart mail relay machine:
postmistress: postmaster
newsmistress: newsmaster
hostmistress: hostmaster
Nobody ever uses them, though. :-)
Demon Whore of the Underworld
: In alt.sysadmin.recovery, Sean B Purdy <se...@fastnet.co.uk> wrote...
:
: > Recently, the esteemed Demon Whore of the Underworld, lil...@the.satanic.org,
: > imparted:
: >
: > : : Well, one of the postmasters at Net Access is a woman. Hillary tells me
: >
: > : postmatrix?
: >
: > post-dominatrix?
:
: ...also known in some circles as a bloody pulp.
Personally, I prefer 'heavily bruised pulp,' but that's more a factor
of the day and age than anything.
lilith
watch out for the wraparound lashes. they leave nasty scars.
/225686/lgoldste/Lee Ann Goldstein
>
>Just remember, the first webmaster was female... her first home page
>said "Some Pig" and was regularly updated....
Uh-huh. And her name was Charlotte.
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I'm what passes for a Unix guru in my office. This is a frightening concept.
Gordon Joly
webmaster,
webmeister,
webwaver,
webwinker, etc?
Gordo
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Tony Blews
: webmaster,
: webmeister,
: webwaver,
: webwinker, etc?
webslinger?
spiderwoman?
Kai Henningsen
> I put "Ms." in my signature, even at the risk of sounding stuffy, to give a
> clue to foreign students who might not know that "Anne" is a woman's name.
> I *still* get replies to my mail, addressed to "Dear Mr. Bennett". Sigh.
There's probably a *lot* more foreign students that understand "Anne" than
"Ms.", however.
Kai
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>webmaster,
>webmeister,
>webwaver,
>webwinker, etc?
It's WebMaster, and who are you to question my authority, worm?
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C Speed
>> I put "Ms." in my signature, even at the risk of sounding stuffy, to give a
>> clue to foreign students who might not know that "Anne" is a woman's name.
>> I *still* get replies to my mail, addressed to "Dear Mr. Bennett". Sigh.
>There's probably a *lot* more foreign students that understand "Anne" than
>"Ms.", however.
I'm having something of a spate of "Dear Sir" email at the moment. I
still haven't *quite* perfected the standard reply but I'm working on
it.
As for foreign students getting clues by name, definately not. Here,
have an excerpt:
" I don't know who get caught. The guy who sent me the mail is the mcc
dialup support staff. Name: claire If you join the dialup user
discussion group, you will know who he is."
And this was to _me_ as well.
Claire
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Michael Jarvis
[snip]
> : webslinger?
> : spiderwoman?
> I got tired of the "webmaster/postmaster" crap so I just called myself
> Black Widow. It seems befitting since most of the poor sucks I
> encounter in the geek world don't live with me very long.
I dunno about webmaster, but RFC 822 specifically states that
"postmaster" shall be a valid email address. You can call yourself
whatever you want but if you want to comply with RFC 822 then postmaster
should be a valid address.
My apologies if you already knew this. :^)
-michael
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>" I don't know who get caught. The guy who sent me the mail is the mcc
>dialup support staff. Name: claire If you join the dialup user
>discussion group, you will know who he is."
Malay has no distinct `he' or `she': `dia' is used for both.
From my father's occasional slips (saying `he' when it should be `she'),
I suspect Chinese dialects have no gender specific pronoun either.
-jonathan
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Mary Conner
Cynthia Smathers <cyn...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>Me: "This is Cynthia, may I have your user name please?"
>Jerk: "No, I wanna talk to a tech support person!"
>Me: "I am a support tech, sir, and I need your username to pull up your
>records."
>Jerk: "No, I want a REAL support tech, not their secretary."
Argh. Boy does this bring back memories. But from the other side.
Calling up the tech support for the database that we were porting all
the company software over to became an exercise in futility. *Every*
time I called them I had to convince them that I was in fact a person
with brains, and that I did know how to use their product. The topper
was when I called them to report an obscure problem with their VMS
gateway product. I had already figured a work around, but it was
obnoxious, and I wanted them to fix it in a subsequent patch. The
tech support guy, while admitting that he knew nothing about the VMS
version of their product, kept insisting that what I described as
happening couldn't happen. After going roundabout for several minutes
where I tried to describe the exact sequence of events that had to
happen in order to see the problem, in which he would repeat it back
to me with several parts missing, I told him I'd fax him an easily
understandable minimal program that would demonstrate the problem.
I faxed it to him, and he called back to inform me that it did not
cause any problems in his tests. I asked him if he was using it with
the VMS gateway, and if he was testing it on a database of at least
10,000 records. He said, no, he only had access to a Unix machine
and their test database only has a few hundred records.
At this point I was fed up with the whole mess, and told him to transfer
me to someone with experience with their VMS product, including the
gateway. He said that would have to be one of the software engineers,
and he couldn't escalate it that far. I asked him why not. He said
he didn't think the problem warranted it. I asked why not. He said,
"Look, maybe if you get the programmer to call me back, I can explain
it to him." "What programmer?" "The programmer who wrote this code
you sent me." "I am the programmer." "No, I mean your boss---this
stuff is pretty technical for a secretary and I certainly can't
escalate it for you." Pause. "Transfer this call to your supervisor
NOW."
Two weeks later they made the same tech support guy call me back to
let me know that the VMS guys had not only verified my report, but
also that my guess as to why it was happening was also correct. He
was exceedingly meek and excruciatingly polite. I still think he
ought to have been fired, but owell.
Sometimes the sexism is humorous though. When I was back at the
University, I often did my work in the Savery hall computer room, which
was staffed by a student consultant. I was printing something and
the paper ran out on the Printronix printer. The consultant was on
a bathroom break so I went over and hauled a new box of paper over
the printer and prepared to change it. This guy sitting nearby jumped
up and said, "Here, I can do that." I watched amusedly as he opened
the printer, flipped tractors opened and closed, tried to put the paper
in backwards, and eventually gave up, saying, "Well, I'm sure the
consultant will be back soon."
He sat back down. I opened the printer and put the paper in, TOF'ed
it, put it back online and printed the rest of my file. I didn't
say anything, but he blushed the reddest shade of crimson I have seen
in a long time.
--
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Seeking: Manual or technical information for an Axion monitor, model
CM-1428, or a current phone number for the company
The Midnite Marauder
I had to deal with this person for months.
Miss Ska wrote:
> I got tired of the "webmaster/postmaster" crap so I just called myself
> Black Widow. It seems befitting since most of the poor sucks I encounter
> in the geek world don't live with me very long.
The operative words here being "called myself", since, of course, the rest
of the world calls her many things, but certainly not a master of anything.
Miss Ska can get as tired of postmaster and webmaster ash she wants. It won't
make any difference to her, since she has never been, nor will she ever be
anything more than a common luser.
She apparently has no concept of what a mail alias is. Nor does she
even come close to comprehending their purpose. She luses one of the systems
I admin, and I've had the misfortune of being in her presence a few times. *ugh*
>
> *evil grin*
>
I've seen it. It's over-rated.
> Miss Ska
> Black Widow of TWO web sites... nyaaaahhhh so *there* :b~~~~~
>
At this point I'd like you to invite you all to visit the two "sites"
that this person claims to be the Black Widow of. In actual fact, these
sites are just a couple of pages sitting on a machine I admin.
A grand total of 5 links, 2 jpegs, uh.. and a lot of babble.
http://cug.concordia.ca/~cups
http://cug.concordia.ca/~crsg
l33t s1tez d00d! nawt!
And so, in accordance with the long-standing tradition of griping in
this newsgroup, I now gripe:
The absoluteness of stupidity: a gripe.
How absolute can stupidity be? Well, for many years, many have thought
that absolute stupidity was characterized by doing things like sticking your
toungue on a frosty metal pole. Others thought spending hours talking to the rear
end of a donkey was absolutely stupid.
But the computer era has brought us a whole new category of stupid. In
this age where information zoooooooooooooms about on the now famous infobahn,
the few, the too-clueless-to-know-how-clueless-they-are, the absolute idiots of
the world have made themselves known.
I have met the stupidest of them all. The absoluteness of her stupidity
is SO absolute that it has redefined other concepts previously considered
absolute:
0 degrees Kelvin used to be called absolute zero. Now it is just
the recommended temprature at which to chill absolute Jello.
light speed was considered the absolute velocity. Now it is just
the prefered speed of calorie-wise individuals.
The Word of God was thought the absolute Truth. Now it's just
a rhumour.
Most importantly, she is SO absolutely stupid, that other people
previously considered absolutely stupid have been upgraded to
slightly below average intelligence.
"Black Widow". She has suffered a great loss indeed this widow.
Her brain died years ago but the rest of her just keeps right on living.
*AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH* i feel much better now. :)
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*** My opinions do not necessarily reflect those of my employer ***
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AndrewV
<snip tale of gender stupidity>
I was once asked if I would have a problem with having a female
supervisor. I said no and got the job (I always suspected the two were
related).
ObASRsupport:
I once called IBM Tech Support about a problem (1) and resolved it
before the call back.
When the female Tech Support called back the next day I explained that
I had resolved the problem with an entry in the PPT (2).
I was literally speechless when she said that I could not have
possibly figured it out on my own and that someone else *must* have
told me what to do (3).
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HELO Mike, (4)
Am I going to find Brian here too one of these days?
(1) New job with a shop that had just got a machine of it's own after
time-sharing for years.
(2)IBM mainframe running MVS/ESA.
(3)I subsequently found out that IBM was under the impression that the
site did not have a Systems Programmer. So it could be she thought she
was talking to an operator.
(4)*sigh* Would you believe that I did not realize that I had typed it
that way untill after I did it?
posted/mailed
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Thomas Farrell
Elizabeth D. Zwicky <zwi...@sgi.com> wrote:
>
>This means that it's not uncommon for me to get phone calls from
>people who think I'm going to be male. They cope to varying degrees.
I used to answer the phone at the software company I worked at...
when I did I used a very smooth, soft spoken, more or less genderless
voice which about half the callers assumed to be female. You wouldn't
believe the confusion it caused when someone asked for me and I switched
to my regular (deep) voice to say "Speaking." It got to the point that
it was easier to put them on hold and transfer them to myself, claiming
to be a different person, than it was to resolve their confusion.
>The best was one who got through our entire phone conversation before
>saying "Your name isn't really Ed, is it?"
Oh, dear... that sounds like something I would do.
>I also like Max Vasilatos' approach;
Yes, well, she's begging for it... especially since the reason she
changed her name to Max was to confuse people about her gender in the
first place.
>one particularly determined
>caller was so sure that she was Mr. Vasilatos' secretary that she
>eventually told him she *was* and Mr. Vasilatos would not be able to
>see him, he had no appointments free.
*giggle* That sounds like something she'd do.
>Now, of course, he thinks that
>Mr. Vasilatos' secretary is not only under a strange delusion that she
>is Mr. Vasilatos, she's actually vindictive about it, but since he's
>never going to be able to find Mr. Vasilatos to complain about it, she
>figured that's OK.
Heh. I've met Mr.Vasilatos. I think Max is butcher.
Tom
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<snip>
>No idea if he will show up or not. Be kind of fun, he has some great
>stories to tell :)
Heh! I can imagine.
>(For those wondering who we are talking about, Brian Tao ta...@io.org)
I am going to suggest it to him but only *after* he re-installs
procmail (I really feel naked without it).
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Jared Buntain
mu...@sidehack.gweep.net (The Color and the Surge) wrote:
>
>When I was working tech support for a Cheesy PC company, I usually assumed
>that anyone who called was an idiot, regardless of gender.
Heh. Yeah, a good friend of mine[1] deals with all lusers in the same
fashion. He listens to thier questions, tells them how to fix it, and then
says "You will do exactly as I have said, or your screwed." Only he said it
like he meant it.
Seeing as how he was the programmer for the applications in question,
people tended to believe him. The one[2] yokel who didnt lost his hard drive,
a story that is endless recounted as a percautionary tale...
Of course, since he wasnt in support (he was in development) and they
wernt supposed to be calling him any way, he could get away with all sorts of
murder. And to be barely on topic, he was equally cruel to either (or any)
gender.
>Ah, end-users. How I miss them. Or not.
>
>Josh
[1] "Pib" Burns. Wrote Pibterm, amongst others. Misanthrope. But otherwise fun
to be around.
[2] Male as I recall. And one of those "I really do know this stuff" types.
Jared Buntain
Northwestern University, Evanston, IL. USA
chan...@nwu.edu
Peter Gutmann
>You're too nice with Salesdrones. My fiance's last name is Langel and so
>when they call for her and get a male voice, they ask, Is this Mr. Langel?
>to which I say, "No, he's dead." (Her father is and I did check with her
>before I said this). Also, if anyone calls and mangles our names (its
>Brady not Bradley, Brody, Bratty, Brandy), I tell them that they have the
>wrong number. And if anyone asks for Mr. Brady, I tell them that he is out
>of the country. If they persist, I tell them that its classified. (Well,
>my father's travel schedules were and how was I to know that they weren't
>calling about my father eventhough he was retired and 1400 miles away).
>And I hate anyone who asks for Mark, because they are slime.
I have a much simpler solution, I just turn off the ringers on the phones.
Let 'em call all they like, I won't hear it. If they really want to get in
touch they can send me mail to make an appointment to phone me.
Peter.
Simon Favre
>On Thu, 07 Mar 96 14:14:02 GMT, bs...@hic.net (Mark H. Brady) wrote:
>>
>>My friend has starting doing phone support for a furniture factory. I am
>>waiting for his end-user stories.
>>
>
>Huh? He's doing computer support for people working in a furniture factory,
>or supporting people who bought furniture from said factory? My imagination
>is running off with thoughts of those assembly instructions that are
>apparently all written by Tibetan monks who've never been exposed to
>English, then run through some program that substitutes English words for
>each Tibetan words without regard to context or grammar.
>
Ok, I posted this a while back to alt.home.repair, or some such. I
think we can get a few more laughs out of it here. Don't you wish
computer & software installation was this easy? ;=)
=====================================================================
Submitter's Note: The now-famous Dave Barry article, "Read This First"
has been bested. In another case of "Life Imitates Art," I submit the
following for your amusement. These are the actual installation
instructions for a lighting fixture recently purchased at a large
warehouse-type store. The instructions have been copied verbatim into
this article and proof-read at least twice. In case you are wondering,
"swag" is a legitimate type of ceiling fixture. At least they got that
part right. I counted three different spellings for the word "screw"
and three different spellings for "connector." I counted a total of 64
spelling, usage and grammatical errors in these instructions. There are
13 in the first paragraph alone.
=======================================================================
INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS
GENERAL
You don't need special tools to install this fixture. Be sure to follow
the steps in the order given. Under no circunotarces should a fixture
be hung on house eiectrieal weres nor shoold a swag type finiture be
installed on a ceiling which cartains a radiont type hearing system.
NOTE. proper wiang is estential for the safe operation of this fixture.
Read the instrucaicns carefully. If you are undear as to how to
proceed, consult a qualified electricion.
WARNING
BE SURE THE ELECTRICITY TO THE WIRES YOU ARE WORKING ON IS SHUT OFF :
EITHER THE FUSE REMOVDD OR THE CIRCUIT BRCAKER OFF'
(Fancy figure not duplicated)
NOTE: lilustration is only intended for easy identification of parts
and is in no way a representation of your particulor fixture. Your
fixture may not use every part shown in illrstration.
INSTALLATION
IMPORTANT: DO NOT ATTACH FIXTURE OIRUTLY TO OUTLGTBOX
1. Thread fixture mounting screus in through top of mounting bar
(curved side is top, as illustrated). Run screw threads all the way
down to the heads. Sacure mounting bar to outlet box with outlet box
serews (not supplied)
2. Thread pipe into coupling.
3. Take note of the color of the wire(s) on your fixture. Identify
whilh group your fixture wire(s) talls into and sonnelt the wires
according to the directions below:
+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
| GMOUP A Connect to Black House | GROUP B Connect to White House |
| wire | wire |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
| BLACK | WHITE |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
|*PARALLEL WIRE (round & smooth) |*PARALLEL WIRE (squere & ridged) |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
| WHITE ON GMEY WITH TRACER | WHITE OR GREY WITMOUT TRACER |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
| BROWN. GOLD OR BLACK WITHOUT | BROWN. GOLD OR BLACK WITH TRACER |
| TRACER | |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
*Note: when parallel wire is used the tracer is square shaped. or
ridged and the less tracer is reuod in shape or smooth (seen best when
viewed from wire end) To separate wires grasp the ends of each. wire
and pull apart.
4. Take you fixture wire(s) from group A and place evenly against the
black wire from the outles box and twist together the bare parts of
the metal.
5. Fit a wire connestor (not supplied) over the twisted wires and screw
the connestor clockwise until you feel a firmness.
6. Try gently to pull the connecstor off the wires. If you can pull the
connecstor off .care fully re - do steps 4 and 5. as above.and
check.
7. Connect the fixture wire from group B to the white wire from the
outlet box in the same manner.
8. GROUNDING INSTRUCTIONS: The green grounding screw is to be inserted
into the hole with two raiook dimides provided on the mounting bar.
Wrap the ground wire from the fixture (if provided) puo the ground
wire from the outlet box (bare metal or green insulated wire) around
the green groundmg screw on the mounting bar. If an uninsulated wire
is supplied on the mounting bar instead of the green grounding
screw. connect the ground wire from the fixture (if provided) and
the outles box to it using a small wire connector (not supplied).
NEVER CONNECT GROUND WIRE TO BLACK OR WHITE POWER SUPPLY WIRES.
9. Aftor wires are connected, tuck them carefully inside the outlet
box. Raise the canpy to the ceiling allowing for mounting screws to
protrude through holes in canopy. Secure in place with cap nuts.
FINAL ASSEMBLY
1. Install lamps.
2. Place glass on center pipe of fixture and securc in place with trim
cap (if applicable). round nut, and tixture knob.
"WARNING - RISK OF FIRE MOST DWELLINGS BUILT BEFORE 1985 HAVE SUPPLY
WIRE RATED 60C CONSULT OUALIFIED ELECTR ICIAN BEFORE INSTALLING." FOR.
SUPPLY CONNECTIONS USE WIRE SUITABLE FOR AT LEAST. 75C
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Rached Blili
Rached Blili <rac...@domingo.concordia.ca> wrote:
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>Rached Blili --- Vice President - Concordia Computer Users' Group
> rac...@cug.concordia.ca
> http://cug.concordia.ca/~rached striker @ Undernet IRC
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>Rached Blili --- Vice President - Concordia Computer Users' Group
> rac...@cug.concordia.ca
> http://cug.concordia.ca/~rached striker @ Undernet IRC
NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) I double-sigged! Welp! There goes my
super-dooper flame of the day! :)
No sig this time.
Wilson Roberto Afonso
Cynthia Smathers <cyn...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>Me: "This is Cynthia, may I have your user name please?"
>Jerk: "No, I wanna talk to a tech support person!"
>Me: "I am a support tech, sir, and I need your username to pull up your
>records."
>Jerk: "No, I want a REAL support tech, not their secretary."
I once instructed a girl who worked with me to hang up if anyone
specifically asked for a male tech, after it happened once. If this
happened *after* she knew who she was talking to, I'd refuse service
to that guy forever (we don't need customers like that). Anyway, I
don't think it ever happened again.
-Wilson
Petro
rac...@domingo.concordia.ca (Rached Blili) writes:
>In article <4hs44u$n...@newsflash.concordia.ca>,
>Miss Ska <s...@alcor.concordia.ca> wrote:
<flame war between two losers>
I think that this just about says it all, don't you:
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Wolfgang Schelongowski
>Sometimes the sexism is humorous though. When I was back at the
>University, I often did my work in the Savery hall computer room, which
>was staffed by a student consultant. I was printing something and
>the paper ran out on the Printronix printer. The consultant was on
>a bathroom break so I went over and hauled a new box of paper over
>the printer and prepared to change it. This guy sitting nearby jumped
>up and said, "Here, I can do that." I watched amusedly as he opened
>the printer, flipped tractors opened and closed, tried to put the paper
>in backwards, and eventually gave up, saying, "Well, I'm sure the
>consultant will be back soon."
But men are brainwa^H^H^H^H^H^H^Heducated by women to behave that way.
When I was at Murks Bros. Productions[1] I made the mistake of helping
a woman[2] with using an SNA/LU6.2[3] gateway, so she could run a test of
her software every five minutes instead of once a day. I didn't get a
thank you. A few hours later I ripped off some of my output from the
printer. When I passed her[4] she said (translated) "A gentleman would
have brought me my output". I thought: "??? Oh no, not _again_!"
[1] Names changed to protect ... whatever.
[2] Emancipated, liberated, and all that - including smoking[5].
[3] I was the local guru for SNA/LU_T1/2/3/6.2. But I didn't have to help
her. Come to think of it, I should have watched her doing one test
per day.
[4] She was a few meters away from the printer.
[5] That's a must for women.
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Mustela locuta, causa finita. (With apologies to St. Chris)
John Guthrie
% In article <313a33bb...@stealth.mindspring.com>,
% Cynthia Smathers <cyn...@mindspring.com> wrote:
% >Me: "This is Cynthia, may I have your user name please?"
% >Jerk: "No, I wanna talk to a tech support person!"
% >Me: "I am a support tech, sir, and I need your username to pull up your
% >records."
% >Jerk: "No, I want a REAL support tech, not their secretary."
% I once instructed a girl who worked with me to hang up if anyone
% specifically asked for a male tech, after it happened once. If this
% happened *after* she knew who she was talking to, I'd refuse service
% to that guy forever (we don't need customers like that). Anyway, I
% don't think it ever happened again.
Here's an idea that might be amusing for some of the women to try sometime
something like this happens to them. You'll need the help of a male colleague.
If someone calls and asks for a male support tech or some other such nonsense,
transfer them to your male colleague, but refer to him as 'your secretary',
and then have him behave as if he's not qualified to answer any technical
questions. [1] Optionally, he can then put the caller on hold for 15 or 20
minutes.
Just a completely random thought. Feel free to ignore. :-)
[1] Don't do this if it will get you fired.
John Guthrie
gut...@math.upenn.edu
J.D. Falk
> On 9 Mar 1996, Miss Ska wrote:
>
> > 3) took three months to learn why "Pine wasn't working properly" on his
> > "system". Bah fucking hah. He just didn't RTFM.
>
> Do people even need a manual to learn Pine? It tends to be
> self-explainatory, at least from my experiences...sigh...
Back when I did dial-up tech support more than about once in a
blue moon, I once had to work with somebody for a full half hour before I
realized that the reason they didn't see the information we sent them is
that they hadn't pressed the space bar to move down in Pine.
> - Steve
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Andrew Carey
: Amazing what computers'll get up to when you turn your back on 'em.
: For instance:
: ------------------------------------------------------------------------
: From: sa...@xxxxxxxx.com.au
: To: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER...@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca>
: Subject: Re: Returned mail: unknown mailer error 12
: Greetings from Down Under,
: This is a simple note to say that Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxxx has received your
: sales inquiry. We are processing your order (or request for futher
: assistance) as rapidly as possible, striving to maintain our goal of
: one-day turnaround in the face of increasing demand.
: If you have any other requests or need for further support, or if you
: want to double-check the status of your order, please drop us a line at
: sup...@xxxxxxx.com and we will do our best to reply as quickly as we
: can to that, too.
: Regards,
: <Name>
: Sales and Technical Support Manager
: ------------------------------------------------------------------------
This didn't happen to come from John Wright of Sausage Software, did it?
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Ingvar Mattsson
[SNIPEgoddamiTSNIPE][A lot, with extra strychnine!]
OK, this is for both Rached and Anuska. Lay it off, please!
I mean, it's OK reading about lusers doing stupid things. It might
even be fun reading lusers' reaction to being called lusers. What
isn't funny, at all, is people yelling at each other, calling names.
I mean, I guess me and Martin (or Levitte) could start that, not that
we dislike each other (I hope), but it sure wouldn't be about
recovery, sysadminning and on-topic only by virtue of it being written
by us.
>> Anuska Garcia / s...@alcor.concordia.ca / http://alcor.concordia.ca/~ska
>> "God created woman second. That's because man was just the rough copy."
> thank gawd you're not the only woman around or that might sound
>like a joke. :)
I haven't seen Ms Garcia, but she does have *one* thing to speak for
her, doesn't she? Her .sig appears *once* at the end of her postings.
How many do you see of yours? Not nitpicking, or calling names, just
asking...
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> rac...@cug.concordia.ca
> http://cug.concordia.ca/~rached striker @ Undernet IRC
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> rac...@cug.concordia.ca
> http://cug.concordia.ca/~rached striker @ Undernet IRC
Sheesh! I tend to remember another fight, but back then, at least one
of the sides was a well-known side.
The avalanche has started, it is to late for the pebbles to vote.
Sysadmins, please form an orderly queue to the beer stand.
//Ingvar (I recognize that quote, strange...)
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Sheryl Coppenger
>Cynthia Smathers (cyn...@mindspring.com) wrote:
>:
>: I missed the beginning of this thread, but I have seen "webmistress" used
>: by Lynsa at Teleport. Fortunately my own title of "technical writer" is
>: gender-neutral, but I did get pissed at several clueless customers when I
>: answered tech support phones on a regular basis:
>:
I was lucky with my first job because the department was half women and
my workgroup was all female. We were internal support, and everyone
already was used to having technical problems solved by women. But
there was the "you must be Sheryl" incident when I went for training.
This was in 1980 and I went to an RTE Internals class at HP near
Washington, DC. As I walked down the hall, 4 or 5 people greeted me
with, "hi, you must be Sheryl". I was the only woman in the class and
it was considered such a novelty that the teacher had told the early
arrivals about me and everyone was on the lookout for THE GIRL. I guess
he had noticed a female name on the roster. After the first few minutes,
though, everything settled down and I was treated normally.
In my current job I don't run into many expectations that I can't do the work
technically although I probably get tested a little more than I would if
I were male. The problem is that many of the men feel the need to draw
analogies between something I did and something their wives, mothers, sisters,
or other women did or do. Generally it's a tool to undercut a technical
or policy judgement I have made by labeling it as female emotion. I even
have been compared to Eve in a posting on a local newsgroup (prompting an
"Eve was framed" followup that singed the offender's feathers a little).
I seriously doubt these guys ever compare male sysadmins to their fathers,
brothers, Moses or whatever.
--
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The George Washington University (202) 994-6853
Mike Dolan
>In article <4h6f3q$l...@yama.mcc.ac.uk>, per...@mcc.ac.uk (C Speed) wrote:
>>I'm having something of a spate of "Dear Sir" email at the moment. I
>>still haven't *quite* perfected the standard reply but I'm working on
>>it.
>I remember in the Foreign Service Journal they published that American
>Express sent address "Dear Mr. State Department". It was one of those
>personalized letters so it had two or three references to "and the entire
>Department Family". Amazing what can be done with computers.
Hehe. Reminds me of something I did.
I used to get letters from Reader Digest telling me about their latest
competition. I got bored with this so I wrote them a nice letter:
Dear Mr. Digest,
Yes, you Readers Digest have been entered into our grand prize
draw etc...
For some reason I've *never* had any more mail from their junk mail
list.
;-)
Mike Dolan
Abby Franquemont-Guillory
Sheryl Coppenger <she...@seas.gwu.edu> wrote:
>In my current job I don't run into many expectations that I can't do the work
>technically although I probably get tested a little more than I would if
>I were male. The problem is that many of the men feel the need to draw
>analogies between something I did and something their wives, mothers, sisters,
>or other women did or do. Generally it's a tool to undercut a technical
>or policy judgement I have made by labeling it as female emotion. I even
>have been compared to Eve in a posting on a local newsgroup (prompting an
>"Eve was framed" followup that singed the offender's feathers a little).
>I seriously doubt these guys ever compare male sysadmins to their fathers,
>brothers, Moses or whatever.
I like to use this one:
Of course God created Adam before Eve, and man before woman...
all artists make a rough draft before the final copy.
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Matt Bartley
Cynthia Smathers <cyn...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 07 Mar 96 14:14:02 GMT, bs...@hic.net (Mark H. Brady) wrote:
>>My friend has starting doing phone support for a furniture factory. I am
>>waiting for his end-user stories.
>Huh? He's doing computer support for people working in a furniture factory,
>or supporting people who bought furniture from said factory? My imagination
>is running off with thoughts of those assembly instructions that are
>apparently all written by Tibetan monks who've never been exposed to
>English, then run through some program that substitutes English words for
>each Tibetan words without regard to context or grammar.
That reminds me of the manual for my PeeCee's motherboard. The
section about memory configuration is a real winner (all spelling
errors copied verbatim):
The DRAM sub-system contain 4 banks. Four 30-pin SIMM Socket U8-U11
using as bank 2; two 72-pin SIMM Socket U17 using as bank 1 and 3; U18
using as bank 0 and 2. So you can not install 30-pin SIMM if using 2
banks type DRAM on to U18 and you can install 30-pin SIMM if using 1
bank type DRAM on to U18.
Even having a good idea what it's trying to say, I still can't quite
parse that.
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the press..." * - US Constitition, First Amendment
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Trevor Fiatal
thus spake Frank Mogaddedi <fmog...@tomco.net>:
>Matthew N. Dodd wrote:
>>
>> Good news! Theres no such thing as a "40 hour sysadmin job".
>> Now wait a minute!!! There is a 40 hour sysadmin job!
>
>Just because we all get it done somewhere around Wednesday noon,
>Thursday morning the latest, doesn't mean that there is no such thing.
>Ask Trevor. He actually gets the 40 hour sysadmin job done by Tuesday
>night!
Hmmm... close, but I usually do the marathon stretch later in the week.
Monday: 3PM-3AM 12 hrs
Tuesday: 9AM-6PM 9 hrs
Wednesday: 3PM-3AM 11 hrs
Thursday: 9AM-3AM 18 hrs (!)
Friday: 9AM-6PM 9 hrs
So, actually, if I show up for work early on Wednesday (not bloody likely)
I can actually work a 40-hour week in 3 days.
Weekends, blessedly, are mine-all-mine-dammit-leave-me-alone...
Trevor
Who's decidedly looking forward to a job where they pay you a *bonus* to
average 42 billed hours/week, and *double* it if you average 44... <grin>
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"Get drunk? Who has time to get drunk? There's 90 messages in the support
queue, the news server has run out of disk again, every user with Trumpet
f***ing Winsock is reporting connection problems, and I haven't slept in
3 bloody days. Yeah, now that you mention it, I *could* use a drink..."
Alphanet ------ A Full Service Internet Something Or Other in Pinehurst, NC
Frank Mogaddedi
>
> David W. Rankin Jr. (ran...@ewl.uky.edu) wrote:
> : David (who slowly, but unavoidably, is seeing himself getting his first
> : 40 hour sysadmin job, and is dreading it.)
>
> Good news! Theres no such thing as a "40 hour sysadmin job".
> Now wait a minute!!! There is a 40 hour sysadmin job!
Just because we all get it done somewhere around Wednesday noon,
Thursday morning the latest, doesn't mean that there is no such thing.
Ask Trevor. He actually gets the 40 hour sysadmin job done by Tuesday
night!
This would make us able to file for retirement pay at around
age 40, I guess. Probably earlier.
;-)
Frank
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Kai Henningsen
> I like to use this one:
>
> Of course God created Adam before Eve, and man before woman...
> all artists make a rough draft before the final copy.
Well, yes, it was nice when I heard it the first time. Maybe even the
tenth.
Not after the hundredth, however.
Kai
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Abby Franquemont-Guillory
Kai Henningsen <k...@khms.westfalen.de> wrote:
>abb...@tezcat.com (Abby Franquemont-Guillory) wrote on 14.03.96 in <4i8gq6$n...@xipe.tezcat.com>:
>
>> I like to use this one:
>>
>> Of course God created Adam before Eve, and man before woman...
>> all artists make a rough draft before the final copy.
>
>Well, yes, it was nice when I heard it the first time. Maybe even the
>tenth.
>
>Not after the hundredth, however.
*sigh* Well, I suppose if everyone had heard it a hundred times, I
wouldn't say it any more. *grin* Sorry to impose it upon you yet
again.
Dave Sherohman
>That reminds me of the manual for my PeeCee's motherboard. The
>section about memory configuration is a real winner (all spelling
>errors copied verbatim):
>
>The DRAM sub-system contain 4 banks. Four 30-pin SIMM Socket U8-U11
>using as bank 2; two 72-pin SIMM Socket U17 using as bank 1 and 3; U18
: :
>using as bank 0 and 2. So you can not install 30-pin SIMM if using 2
>banks type DRAM on to U18 and you can install 30-pin SIMM if using 1
>bank type DRAM on to U18.
Hey, I've got that manual! But you give them too much credit - those
;s look more like :s in my copy. OTOH, the copier needed to be set a
little darker so I can't be positive. I haven't been able to get mine
to accept a bank of 30s and a 72 at the same time, and when I tried a
4x36 SIMM, the mouse would mysteriously freeze after a few minutes...
Joe Bednorz
>That reminds me of the manual for my PeeCee's motherboard. The
>section about memory configuration is a real winner (all spelling
>errors copied verbatim):
>The DRAM sub-system contain 4 banks. Four 30-pin SIMM Socket U8-U11
>using as bank 2; two 72-pin SIMM Socket U17 using as bank 1 and 3; U18
>using as bank 0 and 2. So you can not install 30-pin SIMM if using 2
>banks type DRAM on to U18 and you can install 30-pin SIMM if using 1
>bank type DRAM on to U18.
Can't raise the pot, but I can call (verbatim):
In the Half-Populated (32bits) mode you can used --- Four-30pin SIMMs
in SIM5, SIM6, SIM7, SIM8 or One-72pin Single-side
SIMMs in SIM1 or SIM4 --- to operated your system.
In the Full-Populated (64bits) mode, the system supports Three Banks
(Bank0 - SIM1, SIM2. Bank1 - SIM3, SIM4. Bank2 - SIM5, SIM6
SIM7, SIM8, SIM9, SIM10, SIM11, SIM12.).
The Bank0 and Bank1 could be single or double sided 72pin (with /
without parity) DRAM and Bank2 only can be used 30pin (with /
without parity) DRAM.
Memory configuration is thus " Table - Free "
I'm under the delusion that I understand this. But I'm *still*
calling the bastards before I buy more memory.
Joe Bednorz The Lurking Horror
=========================================================
Kill -9 them all. Let fsck sort them out.
Al Castanoli
Franquemont-Guillory) wrote:
| >The DRAM sub-system contain 4 banks. Four 30-pin SIMM Socket U8-U11
| >using as bank 2; two 72-pin SIMM Socket U17 using as bank 1 and 3; U18
| >using as bank 0 and 2. So you can not install 30-pin SIMM if using 2
| >banks type DRAM on to U18 and you can install 30-pin SIMM if using 1
| >bank type DRAM on to U18.
| >
| >
| >Even having a good idea what it's trying to say, I still can't quite
| >parse that.
|
| No the wash with detergent. That's about all there is to say.
YM use Dr. Bonners Stawberry SimmStackers 30pin to 72pin four for one?
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Todd Showalter
>abb...@tezcat.com (Abby Franquemont-Guillory) wrote on 14.03.96 in <4i8gq6$n...@xipe.tezcat.com>:
>> I like to use this one:
>>
>> Of course God created Adam before Eve, and man before woman...
>> all artists make a rough draft before the final copy.
>Well, yes, it was nice when I heard it the first time. Maybe even the
>tenth.
>Not after the hundredth, however.
Hmmm. Can't take a little ribbing, huh? :)
Sorry you had to see this. I'll go shoot myself now.
Todd.
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Kai Henningsen
> Who's decidedly looking forward to a job where they pay you a *bonus* to
> average 42 billed hours/week, and *double* it if you average 44... <grin>
Umm ... who decides what gets billed?
Kai Henningsen
> *sigh* Well, I suppose if everyone had heard it a hundred times, I
> wouldn't say it any more. *grin* Sorry to impose it upon you yet
> again.
No problem. That's one of the things with the net, I guess - if it's worth
something to someone, it keeps coming back. Forever.
Mark Milton
>Hmmm... close, but I usually do the marathon stretch later in the week.
>Monday: 3PM-3AM 12 hrs
>Tuesday: 9AM-6PM 9 hrs
>Wednesday: 3PM-3AM 11 hrs
>Thursday: 9AM-3AM 18 hrs (!)
>Friday: 9AM-6PM 9 hrs
This is nothing compared to what I have to do at certain times of the
year[1].
Because I'm the only one who knows how the database works on this side
of the "pond". I work, Monday to Friday, 7am to 1am (Sometimes up to
4am). For anything upto 4 weeks at a hotel, somewhere near one of the
many offices that my company has, to support the yearly corporate
negotiations. Sometimes Saturday & Sunday are also spent working. (we
don't have the facilities for large scale negotiations where I work)
This can be 100+ hours per week.
This is one of the most boring, mind-numbing experiences that I ever
have to endure as part of my job! (Fortunately, it's only a few weeks
of the year.) And it's only punctuated by the odd request for
assistance from the buyers attending the negotiation. If anything goes
wrong, all hell breaks loose.
It does have it's perks though..... The company invites me to
Nashville to support the negotiations where the other half of my
department works. I always accept - How else can I get an all expenses
paid overseas trip?.
[1] I normally only work 8am to 5pm. because I'm considered senior
staff where I work, I'm not eligible for overtime payments if I put in
under a certian number of overtime hours a month. This I follow the
rule that if I ain't gonna get paid for it, I won't stay on after the
hooter blows.
+----------------------------------------------------------------------+
Mark Milton Work: mark_...@nortel.com
Systems Analyst & Programmer Home: mmi...@cityscape.co.uk
+----------------------------------------------------------------------+
Abby Franquemont-Guillory
In article <afcasta-1803...@dnet07-24.sat.texas.net>,
Al Castanoli <afc...@texas.net> wrote:
>In article <4iimme$s...@xochi.tezcat.com>, abb...@tezcat.com (Abby
>Franquemont-Guillory) wrote:
>
>| >The DRAM sub-system contain 4 banks. Four 30-pin SIMM Socket U8-U11
>| >using as bank 2; two 72-pin SIMM Socket U17 using as bank 1 and 3; U18
>| >using as bank 0 and 2. So you can not install 30-pin SIMM if using 2
>| >banks type DRAM on to U18 and you can install 30-pin SIMM if using 1
>| >bank type DRAM on to U18.
>| >
>| >
>| >Even having a good idea what it's trying to say, I still can't quite
>| >parse that.
>|
>| No the wash with detergent. That's about all there is to say.
>
>YM use Dr. Bonners Stawberry SimmStackers 30pin to 72pin four for one?
ALL ONE! OK! OK! FOR ESSENE MEMORY TRUTHS SEND SASE TO 72 PIN LANE
SCSI VALLEY 68040-8086! OK! ALL ONE! OK! OK!
Trevor Fiatal
thus spake k...@khms.westfalen.de (Kai Henningsen):
>tafi...@ac.net (Trevor Fiatal) wrote on 16.03.96 in <4ifju3$a...@primus.ac.net>:
>> Who's decidedly looking forward to a job where they pay you a *bonus* to
>> average 42 billed hours/week, and *double* it if you average 44... <grin>
>Umm ... who decides what gets billed?
Any time I'm OTJ and conscious counts as billable hours.
You also get ~1 hour's credit towards billable hours for the bi-weekly
status meeting where you tell them what an idiot the client is.[1]
Trevor
[1] Hopefully, this won't be *too* much of a problem. Some of their
better-known clients include Netscape, Sun, and Bay Networks...
Martin Hargreaves
>In article <4i5u33$j...@dim.intersurf.net>,
>Matthew N. Dodd <win...@jurai.net> wrote:
>>David W. Rankin Jr. (ran...@ewl.uky.edu) wrote:
>>: David (who slowly, but unavoidably, is seeing himself getting his first
>>: 40 hour sysadmin job, and is dreading it.)
>>
>>Good news! Theres no such thing as a "40 hour sysadmin job".
>>
>Hey, I work a 40 hour sysadmin job.
The problem is there are so many 40 hour sysadmin jobs to do in a
week....
(I charge by the hour, and only work overtime if I need to stay in the
city to meet someone at the pub later on... ;-)
M.
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Matt Bartley
Dave Sherohman <jags...@skypoint.com> wrote:
>bart...@helium.iecorp.com (Matt Bartley) wrote:
>>That reminds me of the manual for my PeeCee's motherboard. The
>>section about memory configuration is a real winner (all spelling
>>errors copied verbatim):
>>
>>The DRAM sub-system contain 4 banks. Four 30-pin SIMM Socket U8-U11
>>using as bank 2; two 72-pin SIMM Socket U17 using as bank 1 and 3; U18
> : :
>>using as bank 0 and 2. So you can not install 30-pin SIMM if using 2
>>banks type DRAM on to U18 and you can install 30-pin SIMM if using 1
>>bank type DRAM on to U18.
>Hey, I've got that manual! But you give them too much credit - those
>;s look more like :s in my copy. OTOH, the copier needed to be set a
>little darker so I can't be positive. I haven't been able to get mine
>to accept a bank of 30s and a 72 at the same time, and when I tried a
>4x36 SIMM, the mouse would mysteriously freeze after a few minutes...
<rant> When I reinstalled the system on this machine, I switched login
shells from tcsh to bash (mostly because I got it compiled first).
However, as I've discovered from falling behind on this thread, my
alias trn='trn +hreply_to -p' didn't get copied over from .tcshrc to
.bashrc, so I didn't see the followups to my article until I ran
across it in the regular a.s.r flood. .*rc files from hell. </rant>
Anyway, in my copy of the manual, the second ; is definitely a
semicolon. The first is questionable as you describe.
I'm just glad I don't rely on the manual for anything. I'd never make
enough sense out of it for it to be useful. Fortunately the tech who
installed my then-new motherboard advised me about the memory bank
configuration [1] and how to set the jumpers so that the 80486 runs at
80 MHz instead of the 66 MHz it's supposed to. It's been running like
that continuously for a year.
Then there's the motherboard on a different 486 I use here. First it
broke in such a way that it was stuck in non-turbo (slow) mode. Now
its replacement has broken the same way. Adding insult to injury,
FreeBSD partition won't boot anymore. Maybe some other hardware
problem trashed that partition. Then again maybe someone hit the
reset button on it or power cycled it, so as to reboot and run
MeSsyDOS / Windoze. They can't bother to <Cntl><Alt><Del> it, which
does a clean reboot, after all.
[1] Four 30 pin SIMM slots instead of the old board's eight, which has
left me with only 4 megabytes of memory in that machine [2], making
it useful for little more than a terminal [3].
[2] I also had four extra and useless 4M 30 pin SIMMS. I wasn't
even able to trade them within the department for a 4M 72 pin SIMM.
They probably ended up in someone's XT or 286. I should have taken
them, sold them on the open market, and bought a 4M 72 pin SIMM.
[3] Though running linux (very slowly - see [1]) with six virtual
terminals, it's a pretty good one.
Kai Henningsen
> Hmmm. Can't take a little ribbing, huh? :)
Can, and do - as long as it doesn't get overboard, and uses new ideas
after a while.
By the way, a quick quiz - do you think men and women have different rib
counts? AFUers needn't apply.
Sten Drescher
PG> I have a much simpler solution, I just turn off the ringers on the
PG> phones. Let 'em call all they like, I won't hear it. If they
PG> really want to get in touch they can send me mail to make an
PG> appointment to phone me.
I do, at least, have an answering machine, and anyone who is
clueful (or determined) enough to get past the message is at least
going to be listened to: "You have reached an imaginary number.
Please rotate your phone 90 degrees and try again.". Swiped from
someone here, I think.
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MD> bs...@hic.net (Mark H. Brady) wrote:
>> In article <4h6f3q$l...@yama.mcc.ac.uk>, per...@mcc.ac.uk (C Speed)
>> wrote:
>>> I'm having something of a spate of "Dear Sir" email at the moment.
>>> I still haven't *quite* perfected the standard reply but I'm
>>> working on it.
>> I remember in the Foreign Service Journal they published that
>> American Express sent address "Dear Mr. State Department". It was
>> one of those personalized letters so it had two or three references
>> to "and the entire Department Family". Amazing what can be done
>> with computers.
MD> Hehe. Reminds me of something I did.
MD> I used to get letters from Reader Digest telling me about their
MD> latest competition. I got bored with this so I wrote them a nice
MD> letter:
MD> Dear Mr. Digest, Yes, you Readers Digest have been entered into
MD> our grand prize draw etc...
I always liked receiving mail talking about my neighbors in
"Apo, NY".
Petro
: Then there's the motherboard on a different 486 I use here. First it
: broke in such a way that it was stuck in non-turbo (slow) mode. Now
: its replacement has broken the same way. Adding insult to injury,
: FreeBSD partition won't boot anymore. Maybe some other hardware
: problem trashed that partition. Then again maybe someone hit the
: reset button on it or power cycled it, so as to reboot and run
: MeSsyDOS / Windoze. They can't bother to <Cntl><Alt><Del> it, which
: does a clean reboot, after all.
: [1] Four 30 pin SIMM slots instead of the old board's eight, which has
: left me with only 4 megabytes of memory in that machine [2], making
: it useful for little more than a terminal [3].
: [2] I also had four extra and useless 4M 30 pin SIMMS. I wasn't
: even able to trade them within the department for a 4M 72 pin SIMM.
: They probably ended up in someone's XT or 286. I should have taken
: them, sold them on the open market, and bought a 4M 72 pin SIMM.
Why don't you put them in [1]?
: [3] Though running linux (very slowly - see [1]) with six virtual
: terminals, it's a pretty good one.
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Martin O'Nions
[Nothing that hadn't already appeared in a previous post whatsoever]
I see you found the way around your newsserver's quoting limit then...
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Making toast at the fireside / Nurse fell in the grate and died
And, what makes it ten times worse / All the toast was burnt with Nurse
(Harry Graham - Ruthless Rhymes for Heartless Homes
Thorfinn
> I do, at least, have an answering machine, and anyone who is
>clueful (or determined) enough to get past the message is at least
>going to be listened to: "You have reached an imaginary number.
>Please rotate your phone 90 degrees and try again.". Swiped from
>someone here, I think.
I first saw this in rec.games.nethack in the .sig block belonging to a
fellow named "David Grabiner"... I was amused lots, and did the
cat /dev/coffee /dev/water | /dev/cup | /dev/mouth | /dev/nose > /dev/keyboard
thing.
Later,
Thorfinn
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Petro
: [Nothing that hadn't already appeared in a previous post whatsoever]
Actually there was 1 line.
: I see you found the way around your newsserver's quoting limit then...
I keep telling y'all it ain't the server, it's the reader. I
ALWAYS use the same server. I just keep changing the READER. One is tin
(1.3) on a remote machine. One is tin(1.2) local, and one is Knews. tin lets
me do whatever I wish (well, mostly).
Richard Kaszeta
> I do, at least, have an answering machine, and anyone who is
>clueful (or determined) enough to get past the message is at least
>going to be listened to: "You have reached an imaginary number.
>Please rotate your phone 90 degrees and try again.". Swiped from
>someone here, I think.
I have to figure out how to get my answering machine to *not* take
messages, just say something and hang up...
ObRant: I *hate* answering machines. I always get them on the phone,
leave messages, and then never hear from them... Then they call me,
and leave a message on my answering machine like "why don't you ever
call me". Tried turning off the answer machine, but too many people
bitched about it. I don't know why, since they never leave useful
messages.
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Robert Bonomi
Thorfinn <thor...@zip.com.au> wrote:
>In article <vpka0er...@dogbert.tivoli.com>, Sten Drescher wrote:
>>clueful (or determined) enough to get past the message is at least
>>going to be listened to: "You have reached an imaginary number.
>>Please rotate your phone 90 degrees and try again.". Swiped from
>>someone here, I think.
>
>fellow named "David Grabiner"... I was amused lots, and did the
>cat /dev/coffee /dev/water | /dev/cup | /dev/mouth | /dev/nose > /dev/keyboard
>thing.
>
Supposedly, somewhere inside M.I.T., there was a 'non-working number'
intercept that told you:
"The number you have dialed is imaginary. Please rotate your
telephone ninety degrees, and try your call again."
I suspect the source is 'urban legand', though.
Ave de Los Andes
: Martin O'Nions (Mar...@catch22.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: : In article <4itihc$s...@suba01.suba.com> pe...@suba.com "Petro" writes:
:
: : [Nothing that hadn't already appeared in a previous post whatsoever]
:
: Actually there was 1 line.
And that explains why there would be a quoting limit. In case that
had not been clear before...
: : I see you found the way around your newsserver's quoting limit then...
:
: I keep telling y'all it ain't the server, it's the reader. I
: ALWAYS use the same server. I just keep changing the READER. One is tin
: (1.3) on a remote machine. One is tin(1.2) local, and one is Knews. tin lets
: me do whatever I wish (well, mostly).
*sigh* Whatever.
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Michael T. Ford
>Supposedly, somewhere inside M.I.T., there was a 'non-working number'
>intercept that told you:
> "The number you have dialed is imaginary. Please rotate your
> telephone ninety degrees, and try your call again."
>I suspect the source is 'urban legand', though.
At MIT, I doubt that's an urban legend. No hack too small...
--Michael
Thomas Farrell
>
>Supposedly, somewhere inside M.I.T., there was a 'non-working number'
>intercept that told you:
>
> "The number you have dialed is imaginary. Please rotate your
> telephone ninety degrees, and try your call again."
>
>
>I suspect the source is 'urban legand', though.
Clearly you haven't had much dealings with MIT.
What is not urban legend however is that I changed my voice mail to say
that once immediately before departing an employer. (The departure
caused the change, not the other way around.) I don't know if they ever
noticed it. I did speak with them once or twice since and they didn't
mention it.
When I left my last job I changed the message to "You have reached the
office of an uninstalled systems administrator. Leave a message at the
tone and no-one will return your call."
I'm tempted to use "rotate your phone" again when I leave my current
employer (Contract ends the end of April. I'm available.) but I
probably won't because they'll probably re-use the number, and I
don't really want to confuse their callers.
Tom
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Rebecca Gray
>
> I have to figure out how to get my answering machine to *not* take
> messages, just say something and hang up...
>
>
I just recently bought myself a nifty answering machine. It's
got five total mailboxes, so the person can either "leave a message after
the tone" or can press 1-4 to get a different mailbox. We've got mailbox
four set up for the cats. Even got one of them to meow into the box as
the greeting.
The neat feature, among all the other trillions of feature, is
the ability to turn messages *off*. It'll rattle off whatever outgoing
message I program into it, and then hang up. Just one press of a button
and I'd never have to hear from the outside world again.
Unfortunately, I can't do that very often... my mom calls too
much. And I don't really want to deal with her concern if she couldn't
get ahold of me in one way or another. :>
She just recently sent me an e-mail message from my dad's
personal account. I couldn't get to my mail from work for two days, and
I didn't have time at home. She called my machine and left a message
because she was worried that she hadn't heard back through e-mail yet.
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Bryce
>She just recently sent me an e-mail message from my dad's
> personal account. I couldn't get to my mail from work for two days, and
> I didn't have time at home. She called my machine and left a message
> because she was worried that she hadn't heard back through e-mail yet.
"SysAdmins whose parent's have computers NEXT on the Jerry Rivers[1]
show!"
It's a nightmare I'm dealing with - DAD in Califoria wants a computer
(and doesn't know WHAT to do with it) and MOM in Floridia is taking C++
courses..
Any wonder I'm in Texas???
[1] Bonus points if you know whom I speak of
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When the people tell the government what to do it is democracy.
When the government tells the people what to do it is tyranny.
Rebecca Gray
>
> "SysAdmins whose parent's have computers NEXT on the Jerry Rivers[1]
^^^^^^^^
YM "parents". HTH [1]
> show!"
>
> It's a nightmare I'm dealing with - DAD in Califoria wants a computer
> (and doesn't know WHAT to do with it) and MOM in Floridia is taking C++
> courses..
>
Fortunately my father is clueful and can keep my mom from doing
anything horrible (yes, they're still together). In fact, my father is a
sysadmin/programmer and the reason why *I'm* so interested in technology.
> Any wonder I'm in Texas???
>
No, I think it's pretty clear why you're there. :>
>
> [1] Bonus points if you know whom I speak of
>
Unfortunately, yes... I do know *of whom you speak*. [1]
[1] Ah, shit, did I just crossover into the grammer thread? Crap.
Harvey Beliveau
>On Mon, 1 Apr 1996, Bryce wrote:
>>
>> "SysAdmins whose parent's have computers NEXT on the Jerry Rivers[1]
> ^^^^^^^^
>YM "parents". HTH [1]
> Unfortunately, yes... I do know *of whom you speak*. [1]
>[1] Ah, shit, did I just crossover into the grammer thread? Crap.
YM "grammar", right! Skipped right over to that damned spelling one
instead.
Harvey
CDA Compliant: "Sir, might I suggest you perform an aerial manuever towards
intercourse with a revolving piece of perforated pastry?"
Non-CDA Compliant: "Hey asshole - take a flyin' fuck at a rolling donut!"
Paul Batchelor
>
> On 15 Mar 1996 14:38:59 -0800,
> thus spake bart...@helium.iecorp.com (Matt Bartley):
[Broken english stuff deleted...]
My favourite is "File server not yet responsed" from a boot prom on an el-cheapo
NE2000 clone network card.
Trevor Fiatal
from the bowels of the scary devil monastery...
>[Broken english stuff deleted...]
And how on earth did you know that putting my name into an
otherwise-unrelated post would bring it to my attention?
Trevor
(Responding to a response to a thread which should be quite dead...)
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Rebecca Gray
> Rebecca Gray <rg...@sumter.awod.com> wrote:
>
> >[1] Ah, shit, did I just crossover into the grammer thread? Crap.
>
> YM "grammar", right! Skipped right over to that damned spelling one
> instead.
>
Oh, bloody hell. Thus helping prove the theory that there
(usually) is at least one unintentional mistake in each post.
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Justin W. Newton
wrote:
>Trevor
>Who's decidedly looking forward to a job where they pay you a *bonus* to
>average 42 billed hours/week, and *double* it if you average 44... <grin>
Ahh, so /thats/ why you took it. Hell, I might follow you for that
one :)