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TimC

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May 29, 2012, 1:44:12 AM5/29/12
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On 2012-05-27, AdB (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
> I had a stack of machines to sanitize the other day, retired low-tech
> boxen from my Dad's company that were going to an e-waste & scrap metal
> drive over in town.
>
> It turns out the fastest way to get the plastic front off the typical
> peecee is to drop it face-down in the driveway.

The only way to get the 55kg of fully populated KENVQ2 into the small
plastic skip prior to be carted off to the data-destruction business,
was by the 2 people holding each end of it simultaneously releasing.
It made a satisfying *whoomp* as it landed. I fear the disks probably
survived the trip. Somehow, the plastic skip did.

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mrob...@att.net

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May 29, 2012, 11:26:23 PM5/29/12
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ab...@127.0.0.1 wrote:
> Sadly, that thing has a sniversity inventory number sticker on it so
> I'll have to call people to come take it away to have it written off
> the books properly.

Sometime around 1995, a friend who worked for sniversity IT was giving
me the nickel tour of the room that housed vax2.umkc.edu . Over in the
corner, I spotted what looked like a pile of old PC-ATs. Upon closer
inspection, it was a pile of the top half of the cases of old PC-ATs -
just the sheet metal and plastic bezel, no electronics. I was told that
the pile used to contain complete machines, but the rule that "if it has
a sniversity property tag, you can't just throw it away" had been
creatively interpreted.

> Can't burn it and sing limericks over the ashes.

You are equipped to burn several kg of steel and cast aluminum to
*ashes*? Wait, never mind, forgot where I was.

Matt Roberds

Garrett Wollman

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May 30, 2012, 12:17:21 AM5/30/12
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In article <wD5xr.31049$TC4....@newsfe14.iad>, <ab...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>Sadly, that thing has a sniversity inventory number sticker on it so
>I'll have to call people to come take it away to have it written off
>the books properly.

All we have to do is send email to said people[1] and they come by and
attach a red sticker to it next to (or sometimes on top of) the
property tag. (See
<http://hacks.mit.edu/Hacks/by_year/1998/bld20_deactivated/> for an
example.) Disposing of the object is then the owner's problem.
(Posting to reuse@ will often cause even completely worthless items to
vanish.)

-GAWollman

[1] Who comes around regularly to attach the tags to new equipment, so
it's no great burden for him to attach tags to old equipment at the
same time.
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Brian Kantor

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May 30, 2012, 7:44:43 AM5/30/12
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Garrett Wollman <wol...@bimajority.org> wrote:
>[1] Who comes around regularly to attach the tags to new equipment, so
>it's no great burden for him to attach tags to old equipment at the
>same time.

What we do is pile them up on a pallet in a dark corner of the building
and periodically call the surplus folk to come get it and take it away.
By the time we get rid of something, its worth is likely only as scrap
metal. Any hard drives get disposed of separately by having a big hole
drilled through them. That's kind of fun to do. And we often salvage
the cpu and dimms first.

They keep raising the minimum price of an object deserving of a tag so
that much old stuff slips off the roles anyway. For example, I have a
file cabinet that bears an inventory tag from 1969 but isn't inventoried
anymore.

From time to time they send a clerk around to sample the inventory;
if every one of a subset of tags can be found, they're satisfied.

But these days computers are so cheap that its rare for us to buy
something valuable enough to deserve a tag. And thus my job is
just a tiny bit simpler.
- Brian

Hans Klager

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May 30, 2012, 10:14:35 AM5/30/12
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On 30 May 2012 04:44:43 -0700, Brian Kantor <br...@karoshi.ucsd.edu> wrote:
>
> But these days computers are so cheap that its rare for us to buy
> something valuable enough to deserve a tag. And thus my job is
> just a tiny bit simpler.

Ah the days when you would buy a peripheral of some sort,
video card, disk drive etc. that would require an asset tag.

Part would arrive and get installed weeks later, a cutie
from accounting would show up and ask where said asset was. You
would point the PC in the corner. Cutie would stroll over and find
out that said PC already had a tag. Much confusion until you
explained that new asset was inside old asset. So, she would
attach the new tag alongside the old tag and walk away.

Then of course if the asset tagged internal part died and
got shitcanned and replaced, the asset tag stayed on and the
replacement asset, had another tag added to the growing collection
on the front or back of the box.



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Garrett Wollman

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May 30, 2012, 12:20:03 PM5/30/12
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In article <jq517b$q7$1...@karoshi.ucsd.edu>,
Brian Kantor <br...@karoshi.ucsd.edu> wrote:
>They keep raising the minimum price of an object deserving of a tag so
>that much old stuff slips off the roles anyway. For example, I have a
>file cabinet that bears an inventory tag from 1969 but isn't inventoried
>anymore.

When our lot increased the capital equipment threshold from $500 to
$2000 (it's now $3000), they increased the inventory threshold from
$500 to $1000 (where it has remained).

I'm pretty sure there's a tag on my desk somewhere.

-GAWollman

Paul Kelleher

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May 30, 2012, 3:45:14 PM5/30/12
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In article <jq5hbj$1dgc$1...@grapevine.csail.mit.edu>,
wol...@bimajority.org says...
>
> When our lot increased the capital equipment threshold from $500 to
> $2000 (it's now $3000), they increased the inventory threshold from
> $500 to $1000 (where it has remained).
>
> I'm pretty sure there's a tag on my desk somewhere.
>
> -GAWollman

As I discovered today... we've tagged our toilet-roll holders.

Make up your own jokes.


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Maarten Wiltink

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Jun 1, 2012, 6:37:59 AM6/1/12
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"AdB" <ab...@leftmind.net> wrote in message
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> Brian Kantor posted thus:

>> They keep raising the minimum price of an object deserving of a tag so
>> that much old stuff slips off the roles anyway.
>
> One foresees installations of clusters of boxen that each individually
> slide under the inventory-tracking threshold.

Like the project where bills exceeding NLG 5000 had to be approved, and
strangely all bills were for NLG 4995.

And developmnent of custom modules was disallowed but 'drivers' were
alright.

Tebrgwrf,
Maarten Wiltink


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Garrett Wollman

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Jun 3, 2012, 2:28:32 AM6/3/12
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In article <2vryr.8990$gS5....@newsfe04.iad>, <ab...@127.0.0.1> wrote:

>[2] And yet they put *sniversity* inventory numbers on 'em.
>Someone should tell the feds quick.

No, the feds require them to do that. They have to keep a bit in the
inventory database that says "this bit belongs to Uncle Sam", and
there a depreciation schedule; once the equipment is fully
depreciated, the U gets title (and the responsibility of throwing it
out). But furniture has a 20-year (IIRC) depreciation schedule,
whereas no federal grant or contract runs that long.

They used to use federal inventory tags. I'm pretty sure I can still
find some 50-year-old Steelcase stuff that has a U.S. Navy[1] property
tag on it.

-GAWollman

[1] Navy because our (D)ARPA contracts since 1963 have been
administered by the Office of Naval Research.

Seth

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Jun 3, 2012, 10:11:54 PM6/3/12
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In article <20120601154952....@firedrake.org>,
Roger Burton West <roger+a...@nospam.firedrake.org> wrote:

>Well, similarly the US federal law that declared that cash transactions
>of $10,000 or more were "suspicious" and had to be reported. But two
>transactions of $5,000 done at the same time were another matter
>entirely.

Yes: cash transactions of $10K+ were filed and ignored. (I've done
them. Nobody cares about that paperwork.)

Two transactions of $5K, done as two transactions in order to avoid
the $10K reporting threshold, are a felony.

Seth

Peter Corlett

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Jun 4, 2012, 4:28:22 PM6/4/12
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Seth <se...@panix.com> wrote:
[...]
> Two transactions of $5K, done as two transactions in order to avoid the
> $10K reporting threshold, are a felony.

As a self-employed consluttant who has still failed to go corporate and thus
likes baiting bureaucrats where possible, I can confirm that transfers of
£10,000.00 are routine and unremarkable, but £10,000.01 is quite beyond the
pale.

Joe Thompson

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Jun 8, 2012, 9:51:01 AM6/8/12
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On 2012-06-03, Garrett Wollman <wol...@bimajority.org> wrote:
> I'm pretty sure I can still find some 50-year-old Steelcase stuff

I'll take a single-pedestal pontoon-leg desk. I used to have one, made
the silly mistake of scrapping it (I was 23, I didn't know any better)
and have longed for it ever since. -- Joe
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Joe Zeff

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Jun 8, 2012, 1:07:40 PM6/8/12
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On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 17:00:13 +0000, Satya wrote:

> --
> "The numbers looked reasonable in that they weren't zeros, in the
> quintillions,
> or in the negative quadrillions." (an article at
> http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/But-I-Didnt-Change-a-Thing.aspx)

The above link is currently 404 compliant.

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Jun 8, 2012, 5:02:28 PM6/8/12
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On 2012-06-08, Joe Zeff <the.guy.with....@lasfs.info> wrote:
> On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 17:00:13 +0000, Satya wrote:
>
>> --
>> "The numbers looked reasonable in that they weren't zeros, in the
>> quintillions,
>> or in the negative quadrillions." (an article at
>> http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/But-I-Didnt-Change-a-Thing.aspx)
>
> The above link is currently 404 compliant.

Works just fine for me.
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Joe Thompson

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Jun 18, 2012, 12:53:30 AM6/18/12
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On 2012-06-08, Satya <sat...@satyaonline.cjb.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Jun 2012 13:51:01 +0000 (UTC), Joe Thompson wrote:
>> On 2012-06-03, Garrett Wollman <wol...@bimajority.org> wrote:
>>> I'm pretty sure I can still find some 50-year-old Steelcase stuff
>>
>> I'll take a single-pedestal pontoon-leg desk. I used to have one, made
>> the silly mistake of scrapping it (I was 23, I didn't know any better)
>> and have longed for it ever since. -- Joe
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/tanker_desk/319142155/in/photostream/
>
> Like that?

Mostly -- but mine had a smooth "rail" underneath the drawers, like a
solid helicopter skid, rather than it being flat with discs as in that
photo. One side (the left IIRC) was open as well, just a leg in front
and the skirt in back. -- Joe
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