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I can't believe this Jvaqbjf IVFGN shit
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Juancho
Dec 5, 2012, 10:08:45 PM12/5/12
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This Jvaqbjf IVFGN is so terrible I pity the misery of the pour souls
who got it when they, unsuspectingly, bought their laptops around
2006-2007 [*].
Yes, I've been handed the Jvaqbjf IVFGN laptop of a family member who
"cannot get to the Internet anymore". Oh, fuck. Just hearing the IVFGN
word gave me sour visions of hellish troubleshooting -- and I was oh so
right!
Frireny ivgny ertvfgel xrlf sbe flfgrz freivprf jrer rzcgl, fhpu nf
ArgZna, EnfZna, ErzbgrNpprff, rgp. Fubar if I've ever seen one.
First, there is no upgrade-reinstall option in Jvaqbjf IVFGN if you have
the BRZ irefvba. When the system is fubar, you have to backup the data
and fucking format the thing, as the BRZ qvfxf (if they exist, which is
doubtful) only allow for the nuke-and-reinstall recovery approach.
Also, if you download from the buccaneers site a aba-BRZ irefvba bs
Jvaqbjf Ivfgn, be warned that you cannot use it for an upgrade-reinstall
if the target system is running a different freivpr cnpx yriry. Also, be
warned that it is not possible to slipstream the FC2 bs Jvaqbjf Ivfgn
vagb n EGZ QIQ bs Jvaqbjf Ivfgn, so you have to get the correct DVD with
the correct service pack level from the buccaneers' site, otherwise you
are wasting your time, bandwidth and health.
Nyfb, lbh pnaabg qb na hctenqr-ervafgnyy bs Jvaqbjf Ivfgn vs lbh qba'g
unir ng yrnfg 8 TO bs serr fcnpr, naq lbh unir gb havafgnyy Jvaqbjf
Cbjrefuryy vs lbh unir vg vafgnyyrq gb or noyr gb cebprrq -- whfg qba'g
nfx zr jul.
Five days after I was handed the laptop, here I am: the
upgrade-reinstall started at 21:00h, and it's now 04:00 a.m. and I'm
still doing a Jvaqbjf Hcqngr bs nobhg 400 ZO nsgre gur cebprff unf
svavfurq (juvpu vaibyirq n yratgul nhgbzngvp erpbirel bs n obgpurq Arg
4.0 Senzrjbex naq n ybg bs bgure fuvg sbe tbbq zrnfher).
I just can't believe this shit, I seriously can't.
[*] I guess it would be more proper to say the misery is truly mine, as
the user always finds a way to pass the problem down to someone else.
who got it when they, unsuspectingly, bought their laptops around
2006-2007 [*].
Yes, I've been handed the Jvaqbjf IVFGN laptop of a family member who
"cannot get to the Internet anymore". Oh, fuck. Just hearing the IVFGN
word gave me sour visions of hellish troubleshooting -- and I was oh so
right!
Frireny ivgny ertvfgel xrlf sbe flfgrz freivprf jrer rzcgl, fhpu nf
ArgZna, EnfZna, ErzbgrNpprff, rgp. Fubar if I've ever seen one.
First, there is no upgrade-reinstall option in Jvaqbjf IVFGN if you have
the BRZ irefvba. When the system is fubar, you have to backup the data
and fucking format the thing, as the BRZ qvfxf (if they exist, which is
doubtful) only allow for the nuke-and-reinstall recovery approach.
Also, if you download from the buccaneers site a aba-BRZ irefvba bs
Jvaqbjf Ivfgn, be warned that you cannot use it for an upgrade-reinstall
if the target system is running a different freivpr cnpx yriry. Also, be
warned that it is not possible to slipstream the FC2 bs Jvaqbjf Ivfgn
vagb n EGZ QIQ bs Jvaqbjf Ivfgn, so you have to get the correct DVD with
the correct service pack level from the buccaneers' site, otherwise you
are wasting your time, bandwidth and health.
Nyfb, lbh pnaabg qb na hctenqr-ervafgnyy bs Jvaqbjf Ivfgn vs lbh qba'g
unir ng yrnfg 8 TO bs serr fcnpr, naq lbh unir gb havafgnyy Jvaqbjf
Cbjrefuryy vs lbh unir vg vafgnyyrq gb or noyr gb cebprrq -- whfg qba'g
nfx zr jul.
Five days after I was handed the laptop, here I am: the
upgrade-reinstall started at 21:00h, and it's now 04:00 a.m. and I'm
still doing a Jvaqbjf Hcqngr bs nobhg 400 ZO nsgre gur cebprff unf
svavfurq (juvpu vaibyirq n yratgul nhgbzngvp erpbirel bs n obgpurq Arg
4.0 Senzrjbex naq n ybg bs bgure fuvg sbe tbbq zrnfher).
I just can't believe this shit, I seriously can't.
[*] I guess it would be more proper to say the misery is truly mine, as
the user always finds a way to pass the problem down to someone else.
Joe Zeff
Dec 6, 2012, 12:08:07 AM12/6/12
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On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 04:08:45 +0100, Juancho wrote:
> This Jvaqbjf IVFGN is so terrible I pity the misery of the pour souls
> who got it when they, unsuspectingly, bought their laptops around
> 2006-2007 [*].
My lapdog had it when I bought it. Of course, the first thing I did was
> This Jvaqbjf IVFGN is so terrible I pity the misery of the pour souls
> who got it when they, unsuspectingly, bought their laptops around
> 2006-2007 [*].
nuke it and install GangsterHat on it. And, a certain well-known friend
of mine once reported that withing six months of the next version's
release there wasn't a single computer in his house still running IVFGN.
--
Joe Zeff -- The Guy With The Sideburns:
http://www.zeff.us http://www.lasfs.info
"Top of the line" probably means "Top of the shelf", from where it
dropped to the floor before they send it off.
Steve VanDevender
Dec 6, 2012, 12:08:13 AM12/6/12
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Have you noticed where the FAQ says not to do gratuitous ROT-13? You're
doing that. Knock it off.
--
Steve VanDevender "I ride the big iron" http://hexadecimal.uoregon.edu/
ste...@hexadecimal.uoregon.edu PGP keyprint 4AD7AF61F0B9DE87 522902969C0A7EE8
Little things break, circuitry burns / Time flies while my little world turns
Every day comes, every day goes / 100 years and nobody shows -- Happy Rhodes
doing that. Knock it off.
--
Steve VanDevender "I ride the big iron" http://hexadecimal.uoregon.edu/
ste...@hexadecimal.uoregon.edu PGP keyprint 4AD7AF61F0B9DE87 522902969C0A7EE8
Little things break, circuitry burns / Time flies while my little world turns
Every day comes, every day goes / 100 years and nobody shows -- Happy Rhodes
David Gersic
Dec 6, 2012, 12:21:40 AM12/6/12
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On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 04:08:45 +0100, Juancho <jua...@notarealaddress.org> wrote:
> Yes, I've been handed the Jvaqbjf IVFGN laptop of a family member who
> "cannot get to the Internet anymore".
Finally, somebody managed to secure a Jvaqbjf box properly.
> Yes, I've been handed the Jvaqbjf IVFGN laptop of a family member who
> "cannot get to the Internet anymore".
Juancho
Dec 6, 2012, 10:26:57 AM12/6/12
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Steve VanDevender wrote:
> Have you noticed where the FAQ says not to do gratuitous ROT-13? You're
> doing that. Knock it off.
>
Get a mouse for you Linux system, that helps a lot to select text. ;-)
> Have you noticed where the FAQ says not to do gratuitous ROT-13? You're
> doing that. Knock it off.
>
LP
Dec 6, 2012, 10:31:15 AM12/6/12
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That said, I'm in the "rot the lot, or not at all" camp, so don't do it
there's a good chap.
Also, your chicken <UI>
-Paul
--
http://paulseward.com
Peter H. Coffin
Dec 6, 2012, 11:12:28 AM12/6/12
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--
11. I will be secure in my superiority. Therefore, I will feel no need
to prove it by leaving clues in the form of riddles or leaving my
weaker enemies alive to show they pose no threat.
--Peter Anspach's list of things to do as an Evil Overlord
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Zebee Johnstone
Dec 6, 2012, 3:01:26 PM12/6/12
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In alt.sysadmin.recovery on Thu, 6 Dec 2012 10:12:28 -0600
But then some people "using" Linux never see an xterm. Never mind
running in runlevel 3
Zebee
- who admittedly hasn't seen an actual xterm in ages because konsole
is way more useful.
Peter H. Coffin <hel...@ninehells.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 16:26:57 +0100, Juancho wrote:
>> Steve VanDevender wrote:
>>> Have you noticed where the FAQ says not to do gratuitous ROT-13? You're
>>> doing that. Knock it off.
>>>
>>
>> Get a mouse for you Linux system, that helps a lot to select text. ;-)
>
> Mouse? I read news in a terminal, as the good lard intended.
Ditto.
> On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 16:26:57 +0100, Juancho wrote:
>> Steve VanDevender wrote:
>>> Have you noticed where the FAQ says not to do gratuitous ROT-13? You're
>>> doing that. Knock it off.
>>>
>>
>> Get a mouse for you Linux system, that helps a lot to select text. ;-)
>
> Mouse? I read news in a terminal, as the good lard intended.
But then some people "using" Linux never see an xterm. Never mind
running in runlevel 3
Zebee
- who admittedly hasn't seen an actual xterm in ages because konsole
is way more useful.
Shmuel Metz
Dec 6, 2012, 4:49:49 PM12/6/12
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In <k9qdf5$52f$1...@dont-email.me>, on 12/06/2012
Real programmers don't eat mice. And, no, that's not anti-GUI
advocacy.
ObPerl TMTOPD.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <http://patriot.net/~shmuel> ISO position
Reply to domain Patriot dot net user shmuel+bspfh to contact me.
We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress.
(S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003)
Real programmers don't eat mice. And, no, that's not anti-GUI
advocacy.
ObPerl TMTOPD.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <http://patriot.net/~shmuel> ISO position
Reply to domain Patriot dot net user shmuel+bspfh to contact me.
We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress.
(S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003)
Peter Corlett
Dec 7, 2012, 10:42:57 AM12/7/12
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Juancho <jua...@notarealaddress.org> wrote:
[...]
datacentre in Germany, whereas I'm sat in London with my feet up on the coffee
table, a FruitOS box on my lap, and also a DVD box set and a case of beer both
demanding to know why they haven't been opened yet. Much though I keep up the
stretching exercises, my arm can barely reach 1m or so to the beer, and thus
sadly falls about 1000km short of the Linux box.
[...]
> Get a mouse for you Linux system, that helps a lot to select text. ;-)
I'm not sure how that's going to help. The Linux system I read news on is in a
datacentre in Germany, whereas I'm sat in London with my feet up on the coffee
table, a FruitOS box on my lap, and also a DVD box set and a case of beer both
demanding to know why they haven't been opened yet. Much though I keep up the
stretching exercises, my arm can barely reach 1m or so to the beer, and thus
sadly falls about 1000km short of the Linux box.
Alexander Schreiber
Dec 7, 2012, 4:36:40 PM12/7/12
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"Retry, Reboot, Reinstall, Redhat".
HTH,
Alex.
--
"Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and
looks like work." -- Thomas A. Edison
Juancho
Dec 7, 2012, 7:00:00 PM12/7/12
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Peter Corlett wrote:
> Juancho <jua...@notarealaddress.org> wrote:
> [...]
>
>>Get a mouse for you Linux system, that helps a lot to select text. ;-)
>
>
> I'm not sure how that's going to help. The Linux system I read news on is in a
> datacentre in Germany, whereas I'm sat in London
There is this thing called xterm and it can handle a mouse, I'm told.
> Juancho <jua...@notarealaddress.org> wrote:
> [...]
>
>>Get a mouse for you Linux system, that helps a lot to select text. ;-)
>
>
> I'm not sure how that's going to help. The Linux system I read news on is in a
> datacentre in Germany, whereas I'm sat in London
Armed with those tools, text should be selectable even if you are
remoting from the ISS.
In the old days, I even witnessed the feat of using gpm to select text
in a 80x24 console screen in runlevel 2, that looked like painful to
accomplish I must admit, but doable nonetheless.
Steve VanDevender
Dec 7, 2012, 7:36:56 PM12/7/12
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Juancho <jua...@notarealaddress.org> writes:
> There is this thing called xterm and it can handle a mouse, I'm
> told. Armed with those tools, text should be selectable even if you
> are remoting from the ISS.
>
> In the old days, I even witnessed the feat of using gpm to select text
> in a 80x24 console screen in runlevel 2, that looked like painful to
> accomplish I must admit, but doable nonetheless.
You probably think you're defending yourself, but you're mainly making
> There is this thing called xterm and it can handle a mouse, I'm
> told. Armed with those tools, text should be selectable even if you
> are remoting from the ISS.
>
> In the old days, I even witnessed the feat of using gpm to select text
> in a 80x24 console screen in runlevel 2, that looked like painful to
> accomplish I must admit, but doable nonetheless.
it clear you're too luserish to be in our company.
I don't need to select text to un-ROT it, and I don't appreciate having
to type "W r" more than about twice in an article to read it.
--
Steve VanDevender "I ride the big iron" http://hexadecimal.uoregon.edu/
ste...@hexadecimal.uoregon.edu PGP keyprint 4AD7AF61F0B9DE87 522902969C0A7EE8
vi troff su fsck rm * halt LART LART LART!" -- the Swedish BOFH
Juancho
Dec 7, 2012, 7:43:22 PM12/7/12
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Steve VanDevender wrote:
> You probably think you're defending yourself
Oh, another Linux user. I beg your pardon.
> You probably think you're defending yourself
Zebee Johnstone
Dec 7, 2012, 9:29:42 PM12/7/12
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In alt.sysadmin.recovery on Sat, 08 Dec 2012 01:00:00 +0100
When GPM over a transpacific link is what you need to use then you use
it, not bleat about it or think it's something special.
I don't need a mouse to read your self indulgent drivel, I have
perfectly good keyboard shortcuts.
Point is that you overused, you got called on it by people who, if you
hadn't come down in the last shower, you would have recognised as
knowing their stuff, and instead of realising you stuffed up and
staying quiet you just proved over and over again that you haven't got
the sense God promised a doorknob.
Never mind that you clearly haven't seen a command line outside
someone else's screenshot or worked on systems that didn't hold your
little hand.
Your choices are simple... Keep digging that hole and get the dirt
chucked in on top of you or climb out by posting something else.
Something that doesn't piss people off by either being too much
work or is you trying to teach your elders things they learned
around the time your daddy was learning how to operate the flush
button.
Zebee
Juancho <jua...@notarealaddress.org> wrote:
>
> There is this thing called xterm and it can handle a mouse, I'm told.
> Armed with those tools, text should be selectable even if you are
> remoting from the ISS.
>
> In the old days, I even witnessed the feat of using gpm to select text
> in a 80x24 console screen in runlevel 2, that looked like painful to
> accomplish I must admit, but doable nonetheless.
ye gods and little fishes, quit digging the hole.
>
> There is this thing called xterm and it can handle a mouse, I'm told.
> Armed with those tools, text should be selectable even if you are
> remoting from the ISS.
>
> In the old days, I even witnessed the feat of using gpm to select text
> in a 80x24 console screen in runlevel 2, that looked like painful to
> accomplish I must admit, but doable nonetheless.
When GPM over a transpacific link is what you need to use then you use
it, not bleat about it or think it's something special.
I don't need a mouse to read your self indulgent drivel, I have
perfectly good keyboard shortcuts.
Point is that you overused, you got called on it by people who, if you
hadn't come down in the last shower, you would have recognised as
knowing their stuff, and instead of realising you stuffed up and
staying quiet you just proved over and over again that you haven't got
the sense God promised a doorknob.
Never mind that you clearly haven't seen a command line outside
someone else's screenshot or worked on systems that didn't hold your
little hand.
Your choices are simple... Keep digging that hole and get the dirt
chucked in on top of you or climb out by posting something else.
Something that doesn't piss people off by either being too much
work or is you trying to teach your elders things they learned
around the time your daddy was learning how to operate the flush
button.
Zebee
Wojciech Derechowski
Dec 7, 2012, 11:52:59 PM12/7/12
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On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 21:36:40 +0000, Alexander Schreiber wrote:
>
> That is an old trick. The 10+ years old quip on fixing Windows was R4:
> "Retry, Reboot, Reinstall, Redhat".
>
Which reminds me of the following fragment from the Stan Kelly-Bootle's column
>
> That is an old trick. The 10+ years old quip on fixing Windows was R4:
> "Retry, Reboot, Reinstall, Redhat".
>
in unixreview.com (Stan's Computer Contradictionary March 2000):
[...]
*Win2000 Source Revealed*
From my old pal Kevin G. Barkes (www.kgb.com), shortly after Bill Gates offered
then refused to release the Win2000 source code (Kevin got this anon., so I
can't ack the genius originator):
*Source Code to Windows 2000*
#include "win31.h"
#include "win95.h"
#include "win98.h"
#include "workst~1.h"
#include "evenmore.h"
#include "oldstuff.h"
#include "billrulz.h"
#include "monopoly.h"
#define INSTALL = HARD
char make_prog_look_big[1600000];
void main()
{
while(!CRASHED)
{
display_copyright_message();
display_bill_rules_message();
do_nothing_loop();
if (first_time_installation)
{
make_50_megabyte_swapfile();
do_nothing_loop();
totally_screw_up_HPFS_file_system();
search_and_destroy_the_rest_of_OS/2();
make_futile_attempt_to_damage_Linux();
disable_Netscape();
disable_RealPlayer();
disable_Lotus_Products();
hang_system();
}
write_something(anything);
display_copyright_message();
do_nothing_loop();
do_some_stuff();
if (still_not_crashed)
{
display_copyright_message();
do_nothing_loop();
basically_run_windows_3.1();
do_nothing_loop();
do_nothing_loop();
}
}
if (detect_cache())
disable_cache();
if (fast_cpu())
{
set_wait_states(lots);
set_mouse(speed, very_slow);
set_mouse(action, jumpy);
set_mouse(reaction, sometimes);
}
/* printf("Welcome to Windows 3.1"); */
/* printf("Welcome to Windows 3.11"); */
/* printf("Welcome to Windows 95"); */
/* printf("Welcome to Windows NT 3.0"); */
/* printf("Welcome to Windows 98"); */
/* printf("Welcome to Windows NT 4.0"); */
printf("Welcome to Windows 2000");
if (system_ok())
crash(to_dos_prompt)
else
system_memory = open("a:\swp0001.swp", O_CREATE);
while(something)
{
sleep(5);
get_user_input();
sleep(5);
act_on_user_input();
sleep(5);
}
create_general_protection_fault();
[...]
WD
--
Who is Entscheidungs and what is his problem?
TimC
Dec 8, 2012, 1:58:39 AM12/8/12
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On 2012-12-08, Juancho (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
easier just to /dev/null the message because of the relative lack of
content and because ESC-r back and forth 13 times is too bloody
annoying?
> In the old days, I even witnessed the feat of using gpm to select text
> in a 80x24 console screen in runlevel 2, that looked like painful to
> accomplish I must admit, but doable nonetheless.
That's a feat? You must be new here...
--
TimC
Press any key to continue, any other key to abort
-- thrillbert's code
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
> Peter Corlett wrote:
>> Juancho <jua...@notarealaddress.org> wrote:
>> [...]
>>
>>>Get a mouse for you Linux system, that helps a lot to select text. ;-)
>>
>>
>> I'm not sure how that's going to help. The Linux system I read news on is in a
>> datacentre in Germany, whereas I'm sat in London
>
> There is this thing called xterm and it can handle a mouse, I'm told.
> Armed with those tools, text should be selectable even if you are
> remoting from the ISS.
Why on earth would you need a mouse to rot13 text? When it's so much
>> Juancho <jua...@notarealaddress.org> wrote:
>> [...]
>>
>>>Get a mouse for you Linux system, that helps a lot to select text. ;-)
>>
>>
>> I'm not sure how that's going to help. The Linux system I read news on is in a
>> datacentre in Germany, whereas I'm sat in London
>
> There is this thing called xterm and it can handle a mouse, I'm told.
> Armed with those tools, text should be selectable even if you are
> remoting from the ISS.
easier just to /dev/null the message because of the relative lack of
content and because ESC-r back and forth 13 times is too bloody
annoying?
> In the old days, I even witnessed the feat of using gpm to select text
> in a 80x24 console screen in runlevel 2, that looked like painful to
> accomplish I must admit, but doable nonetheless.
--
TimC
Press any key to continue, any other key to abort
-- thrillbert's code
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Juancho
Dec 8, 2012, 6:22:19 AM12/8/12
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Zebee Johnstone wrote:
> Point is that you overused, you got called on it by people who
By people who can't withstand to be told to shove their complaining up.
> Point is that you overused, you got called on it by people who
Why would a demigod descend to a mud fight with my lowly person, I
wonder. Maybe he's a teenager in disguise?
And why has my one-liner reply to that demigod elicited such
multiparagraph lashing. Maybe too much free time and the need to mark
his territory abundantly pissing all around?
Questions, questions, whose answer I don't give a damn about.
Juancho
Dec 8, 2012, 6:29:59 AM12/8/12
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TimC wrote:
> On 2012-12-08, Juancho (aka Bruce)
> On 2012-12-08, Juancho (aka Bruce)
>>In the old days, I even witnessed the feat of using gpm to select text
>
>
> That's a feat? You must be new here...
You are lacking (some) sense of humour. Perhaps you can buy some at the
apothecary.
David Cameron Staples
Dec 8, 2012, 6:30:08 AM12/8/12
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here.
Plonk.
Maarten Wiltink
Dec 8, 2012, 8:19:20 AM12/8/12
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"Juancho" <jua...@notarealaddress.org> wrote in message
news:k9v7sf$i04$1...@dont-email.me...
[...]
Not that you'd know why.
Tebrgwrf,
Maarten Wiltink
news:k9v7sf$i04$1...@dont-email.me...
[...]
> Why would a demigod descend to a mud fight with my lowly person, I
> wonder. Maybe he's a teenager in disguise?
A teenager. That's actually quite a good joke.
> wonder. Maybe he's a teenager in disguise?
Not that you'd know why.
Tebrgwrf,
Maarten Wiltink
Peter Corlett
Dec 8, 2012, 9:32:05 AM12/8/12
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Juancho <jua...@notarealaddress.org> wrote:
[...]
up your prescription of Clue.
[...]
> You are lacking (some) sense of humour. Perhaps you can buy some at the
> apothecary.
Apparently they're out of stock, but they did ask when you were going to pick
> apothecary.
up your prescription of Clue.
Joe Zeff
Dec 8, 2012, 9:33:25 AM12/8/12
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On Sat, 08 Dec 2012 02:29:42 +0000, Zebee Johnstone wrote:
> Something that doesn't piss people off by either being too much work or
> is you trying to teach your elders things they learned around the time
> your daddy was learning how to operate the flush button.
You kids today don't know how good you have it. Back when *I* was young,
> Something that doesn't piss people off by either being too much work or
> is you trying to teach your elders things they learned around the time
> your daddy was learning how to operate the flush button.
it was a lever and we *liked* it that way!
When talking of the dead, it is best to remain cryptic.
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Brian Kantor
Dec 8, 2012, 10:23:00 AM12/8/12
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<impo...@notforspam.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
># Why must I be a teenager in love?
>
Because by the time you're no longer a teenager you've
discovered that love is an illusion.
- Brian
>
># Why must I be a teenager in love?
>
Because by the time you're no longer a teenager you've
discovered that love is an illusion.
- Brian
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Wojciech Derechowski
Dec 8, 2012, 11:26:44 AM12/8/12
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Juancho
Dec 8, 2012, 12:51:33 PM12/8/12
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David Cameron Staples wrote:
> Plonk.
>
I'm feeling honored.
> Plonk.
>
I'm feeling honored.
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Alexander Schreiber
Dec 8, 2012, 4:56:38 PM12/8/12
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Juancho <jua...@notarealaddress.org> wrote:
> Peter Corlett wrote:
>> Juancho <jua...@notarealaddress.org> wrote:
>> [...]
>>
>>>Get a mouse for you Linux system, that helps a lot to select text. ;-)
>>
>>
>> I'm not sure how that's going to help. The Linux system I read news on is in a
>> datacentre in Germany, whereas I'm sat in London
>
> There is this thing called xterm and it can handle a mouse, I'm told.
> Armed with those tools, text should be selectable even if you are
> remoting from the ISS.
Which doesn't answer the question why I would need a mouse to read rot13ed
> Peter Corlett wrote:
>> Juancho <jua...@notarealaddress.org> wrote:
>> [...]
>>
>>>Get a mouse for you Linux system, that helps a lot to select text. ;-)
>>
>>
>> I'm not sure how that's going to help. The Linux system I read news on is in a
>> datacentre in Germany, whereas I'm sat in London
>
> There is this thing called xterm and it can handle a mouse, I'm told.
> Armed with those tools, text should be selectable even if you are
> remoting from the ISS.
text in a newsreader. A proper newsreader is expected to able to support
reading of rot13 text in an appropriate way.
Kind regards,
Zebee Johnstone
Dec 8, 2012, 5:27:24 PM12/8/12
to
In alt.sysadmin.recovery on 08 Dec 2012 14:33:25 GMT
But the worst belongs to a friend of mine whose house was bought by his
father after demob and has pretty much not been renovated since.
This device was manufactured by a local company for a very short time
in the early 50s. It is a knob you twirl. A spring loaded knob that
you turn hoping that whatever is behind it catches whatever it is
supposed to. Which it does if you have been using it for 50 years but
otherwise...
Zebee
Joe Zeff <the.guy.with....@lasfs.info> wrote:
> On Sat, 08 Dec 2012 02:29:42 +0000, Zebee Johnstone wrote:
>
>> Something that doesn't piss people off by either being too much work or
>> is you trying to teach your elders things they learned around the time
>> your daddy was learning how to operate the flush button.
>
> You kids today don't know how good you have it. Back when *I* was young,
> it was a lever and we *liked* it that way!
I have dealt with both chains and longdrops.
> On Sat, 08 Dec 2012 02:29:42 +0000, Zebee Johnstone wrote:
>
>> Something that doesn't piss people off by either being too much work or
>> is you trying to teach your elders things they learned around the time
>> your daddy was learning how to operate the flush button.
>
> You kids today don't know how good you have it. Back when *I* was young,
> it was a lever and we *liked* it that way!
But the worst belongs to a friend of mine whose house was bought by his
father after demob and has pretty much not been renovated since.
This device was manufactured by a local company for a very short time
in the early 50s. It is a knob you twirl. A spring loaded knob that
you turn hoping that whatever is behind it catches whatever it is
supposed to. Which it does if you have been using it for 50 years but
otherwise...
Zebee
Juancho
Dec 8, 2012, 5:53:49 PM12/8/12
to
Alexander Schreiber wrote:
> Which doesn't answer the question why I would need a mouse to read rot13ed
> text in a newsreader. A proper newsreader is expected to able to support
> reading of rot13 text in an appropriate way.
Well, then what is the problem with a post with interspersed ROT13 passages?
> Which doesn't answer the question why I would need a mouse to read rot13ed
> text in a newsreader. A proper newsreader is expected to able to support
> reading of rot13 text in an appropriate way.
Should the complainer get a "proper newsreader", then?
Shmuel Metz
Dec 8, 2012, 8:29:54 PM12/8/12
to
In <k9v7sf$i04$1...@dont-email.me>, on 12/08/2012
>Maybe he's a teenager in disguise?
Maybe all of us are, but still more mature than you. Or maybe you just
don't have a clue as to who we (TINW) are.
Welcome to my twit list. When you age off in a year, maybe you'll have
learned something. Others here may be more willing to suffer fools
gladly, so good luck in your endeavors to dig yourself in more deeply.
If all else fails, try the HEoE.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <http://patriot.net/~shmuel> ISO position
Reply to domain Patriot dot net user shmuel+bspfh to contact me.
We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress.
(S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003)
at 12:22 PM, Juancho <jua...@notarealaddress.org> said:
>Why would a demigod descend to a mud fight with my lowly person,
You have a point; you're not worth the effort to educate.
>Why would a demigod descend to a mud fight with my lowly person,
>Maybe he's a teenager in disguise?
don't have a clue as to who we (TINW) are.
Welcome to my twit list. When you age off in a year, maybe you'll have
learned something. Others here may be more willing to suffer fools
gladly, so good luck in your endeavors to dig yourself in more deeply.
If all else fails, try the HEoE.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <http://patriot.net/~shmuel> ISO position
Reply to domain Patriot dot net user shmuel+bspfh to contact me.
We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress.
(S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003)
Ralph Wade Phillips
Dec 8, 2012, 9:49:37 PM12/8/12
to
On 12/8/2012 8:33 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On Sat, 08 Dec 2012 02:29:42 +0000, Zebee Johnstone wrote:
>
>> Something that doesn't piss people off by either being too much work or
>> is you trying to teach your elders things they learned around the time
>> your daddy was learning how to operate the flush button.
>
> You kids today don't know how good you have it. Back when *I* was young,
> it was a lever and we *liked* it that way!
>
YOU had a lever?
> On Sat, 08 Dec 2012 02:29:42 +0000, Zebee Johnstone wrote:
>
>> Something that doesn't piss people off by either being too much work or
>> is you trying to teach your elders things they learned around the time
>> your daddy was learning how to operate the flush button.
>
> You kids today don't know how good you have it. Back when *I* was young,
> it was a lever and we *liked* it that way!
>
I had an outhouse - if we had a lever, it was the wood to keep the door
shut!
Later we got corn cobs. Beat using an old 2x4 to clean up with.
RwP
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Maarten Wiltink
Dec 9, 2012, 5:12:36 AM12/9/12
to
"Joe Zeff" <the.guy.with....@lasfs.info> wrote in message
news:50c34fb5$0$8632$862e...@ngroups.net...
[...]
We rent, and a few years ago the maintenance company, in a fit of
activity (they've done very little before or since), replaced the
toilets. The new ones have buttons that you can tilt back to stop
water flow.
Our water use went from 100 m^3 to 60 per year.
It'll be up again next year, along with natural gas, because we had
useable hot water installed last month (at our own cost). We can now
take real showers even in winter. Did I mention knowing how good we
have it?
Tebrgwrf,
Maarten Wiltink
news:50c34fb5$0$8632$862e...@ngroups.net...
[...]
> You kids today don't know how good you have it. Back when *I* was
> young, it was a lever and we *liked* it that way!
As a matter of fact I do know how good we have it. It's on the bill.
> young, it was a lever and we *liked* it that way!
We rent, and a few years ago the maintenance company, in a fit of
activity (they've done very little before or since), replaced the
toilets. The new ones have buttons that you can tilt back to stop
water flow.
Our water use went from 100 m^3 to 60 per year.
It'll be up again next year, along with natural gas, because we had
useable hot water installed last month (at our own cost). We can now
take real showers even in winter. Did I mention knowing how good we
have it?
Tebrgwrf,
Maarten Wiltink
Maarten Wiltink
Dec 9, 2012, 5:23:44 AM12/9/12
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" � M Poster" <i...@ster.invalid> wrote in message
news:1kusghb.bn4fet1x0mwrlN%i...@ster.invalid...
Fascinating. As visible above, your 'From' starts with a space and is
shown to me (Outlook Express on Windows) with both dots visible.
Your 'Reply-To' does not have the space and thus starts with a letter
that has diacritics to left of the main body of the letter itself - that
bit is shown in a non-serifed font.
And the glyph is placed so that the left dot falls outside the label,
and is lost. Something to do with kerning, probably.
Tebrgwrf,
Maarten Wiltink
news:1kusghb.bn4fet1x0mwrlN%i...@ster.invalid...
Fascinating. As visible above, your 'From' starts with a space and is
shown to me (Outlook Express on Windows) with both dots visible.
Your 'Reply-To' does not have the space and thus starts with a letter
that has diacritics to left of the main body of the letter itself - that
bit is shown in a non-serifed font.
And the glyph is placed so that the left dot falls outside the label,
and is lost. Something to do with kerning, probably.
Tebrgwrf,
Maarten Wiltink
Thomas Womack
Dec 9, 2012, 5:27:03 AM12/9/12
to
In article <ka0gd0$4ja$1...@dont-email.me>,
from the top of the article so you have find your place again; this is
really annoying.
Tom
Juancho <jua...@notarealaddress.org> wrote:
>Alexander Schreiber wrote:
>> Which doesn't answer the question why I would need a mouse to read rot13ed
>> text in a newsreader. A proper newsreader is expected to able to support
>> reading of rot13 text in an appropriate way.
>
>Well, then what is the problem with a post with interspersed ROT13 passages?
There's no problem if it's shorter than a page, but ^X in trn restarts
>Alexander Schreiber wrote:
>> Which doesn't answer the question why I would need a mouse to read rot13ed
>> text in a newsreader. A proper newsreader is expected to able to support
>> reading of rot13 text in an appropriate way.
>
>Well, then what is the problem with a post with interspersed ROT13 passages?
from the top of the article so you have find your place again; this is
really annoying.
Tom
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Cipher
Dec 9, 2012, 9:33:15 AM12/9/12
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On 12/9/2012 5:12 AM, Maarten Wiltink wrote:
> As a matter of fact I do know how good we have it.
<AOL>
> As a matter of fact I do know how good we have it.
We own our house. Our neighbors put in a new septic system, which caused
our cesspool to fill with water in 36 hours. We had it pumped, and it
filled again in 36 hours. Oops. We have zero civil remedy against said
neighbor as they have broken no laws or regulations.
It took us two and half years to raise the money for the US$40,000
septic system we now have. In the interim, we used a five-gallon camping
toilet, which I dutifully emptied and cleaned out every two to three
days into the cesspool, as this uses less than a gallon of water.
I quite literally took 7.5 short tons of shit in thirty months.
Vg jnf bar bs gur (zhygvcyr) snpgbef yrnqvat gb zl zragny oernxqbja naq
ubfcvgnyvmngvba. V'z zhpu orggre abj.
--
The word "urgent" is the moral of the story "The boy who cried wolf". As
a general rule I don't believe it until a manager comes to me almost in
tears. I like to catch them in a cup and drink them later.
-- Matt Holiab, in the Monastery
Peter Corlett
Dec 9, 2012, 10:10:18 AM12/9/12
to
Thomas Womack <two...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
[...]
and doesn't lose the place, unless some cretin has deliberately inserted a
certain character to break trn.
[...]
> There's no problem if it's shorter than a page, but ^X in trn restarts from
> the top of the article so you have find your place again; this is really
> annoying.
trn hardly counts as useful information, so I'll skip the EBGing. "X" toggles
> the top of the article so you have find your place again; this is really
> annoying.
and doesn't lose the place, unless some cretin has deliberately inserted a
certain character to break trn.
Wojciech Derechowski
Dec 9, 2012, 11:27:15 AM12/9/12
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Wojciech Derechowski
Dec 9, 2012, 12:01:28 PM12/9/12
to
On Sun, 09 Dec 2012 13:24:06 +0000, Wolfgang Schelongowski wrote:
>
[...]
> The first entry of Sin into the mind occurs when, out of cowardice or
> conformity or vanity, the Real is replaced by a comforting lie.
> -- Integritas, Consonantia, Claritas
WTF?
>
[...]
> The first entry of Sin into the mind occurs when, out of cowardice or
> conformity or vanity, the Real is replaced by a comforting lie.
> -- Integritas, Consonantia, Claritas
WTF?
Hans Klager
Dec 9, 2012, 3:05:20 PM12/9/12
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On Sun, 09 Dec 2012 09:33:15 -0500, Cipher <nota...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> We own our house. Our neighbors put in a new septic system, which caused
> our cesspool to fill with water in 36 hours. We had it pumped, and it
> filled again in 36 hours. Oops. We have zero civil remedy against said
> neighbor as they have broken no laws or regulations.
You couldn't get the municipality to give them grief for
>
> We own our house. Our neighbors put in a new septic system, which caused
> our cesspool to fill with water in 36 hours. We had it pumped, and it
> filled again in 36 hours. Oops. We have zero civil remedy against said
> neighbor as they have broken no laws or regulations.
having a fucked up leach field?
>
> It took us two and half years to raise the money for the US$40,000
> septic system we now have. In the interim, we used a five-gallon camping
> toilet, which I dutifully emptied and cleaned out every two to three
> days into the cesspool, as this uses less than a gallon of water.
>
> I quite literally took 7.5 short tons of shit in thirty months.
I am somewhat familiar with the whole waste water
business.
My father used to have a house in the Surrey countryside.
It had a cesspool, which the Horley District council would
pump free three times a year. After that you paid. My father's
solution to the expense was to install a Stewart Turner
centrifugal pump, housed in an old whisky crate, that pumped the
waste water into drain tiles that headed to the field at the end
of the garden. The local farmer got free irrigation and
fertilising. One year I noted that the wheat close to our garen
grew higher than the rest.
Intalling the pump was fun and the chance to give the
municipality a fuck you was good too.
Then when I lived in the Wisconsin woods, I had a
prefectly good septic tank. But the local municipality, growing
big and brocratic enough to flex its muscles decided that all the
houses had to get sewage connections. Besides the cost to the
local government, each house had to pay for the lateral to the
road. In my case, this required felling trees and trenching in
sand for about a hundred meters. Close to $30,000.00 worth of
work.
What a waste of time and money.
--
It is through disobedience that progress has been made, through
disobedience and through rebellion. - Oscar Wilde
TimC
Dec 9, 2012, 7:36:26 PM12/9/12
to
On 2012-12-06, Zebee Johnstone (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
> Zebee
> - who admittedly hasn't seen an actual xterm in ages because konsole
> is way more useful.
Yegads. Needless animations. Non updating window titles. Wasteful
menu bars. Lack of ctrl-left,middle&right. And that was just in the
first 2 minutes before I went "apt-get purge konsole". Next you'll be
telling me it probably ignores X resources too. Everything always has
to be an "improvement", doesn't it? (still, it can't be worse than
gnome's console screwup. Those machines were *fun*).
--
TimC
PDF is the standard format for distributing buffer overflow attacks.
-- Steve VanDevender
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
> Zebee
> - who admittedly hasn't seen an actual xterm in ages because konsole
> is way more useful.
Yegads. Needless animations. Non updating window titles. Wasteful
menu bars. Lack of ctrl-left,middle&right. And that was just in the
first 2 minutes before I went "apt-get purge konsole". Next you'll be
telling me it probably ignores X resources too. Everything always has
to be an "improvement", doesn't it? (still, it can't be worse than
gnome's console screwup. Those machines were *fun*).
--
TimC
PDF is the standard format for distributing buffer overflow attacks.
-- Steve VanDevender
Zebee Johnstone
Dec 9, 2012, 9:09:27 PM12/9/12
to
In alt.sysadmin.recovery on Mon, 10 Dec 2012 11:36:26 +1100
more so than xterm or rxvt. haven't used gnome for years so no idea
what it uses.
What is useful depends on the bod. I give no shit about updated
window titles, nor whatever you want to use your control keys for. I
have it set up the way I like it and find it useful as so.
Zebee
TimC <tcon...@rather.puzzling.no-spam-accepted-here.org> wrote:
> On 2012-12-06, Zebee Johnstone (aka Bruce)
> was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
>> Zebee
>> - who admittedly hasn't seen an actual xterm in ages because konsole
>> is way more useful.
>
> Yegads. Needless animations. Non updating window titles. Wasteful
> menu bars. Lack of ctrl-left,middle&right. And that was just in the
> first 2 minutes before I went "apt-get purge konsole". Next you'll be
> telling me it probably ignores X resources too. Everything always has
> to be an "improvement", doesn't it? (still, it can't be worse than
> gnome's console screwup. Those machines were *fun*).
>
I didn't say pretty. I said more useful than xterm. And I find it so,
> On 2012-12-06, Zebee Johnstone (aka Bruce)
> was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
>> Zebee
>> - who admittedly hasn't seen an actual xterm in ages because konsole
>> is way more useful.
>
> Yegads. Needless animations. Non updating window titles. Wasteful
> menu bars. Lack of ctrl-left,middle&right. And that was just in the
> first 2 minutes before I went "apt-get purge konsole". Next you'll be
> telling me it probably ignores X resources too. Everything always has
> to be an "improvement", doesn't it? (still, it can't be worse than
> gnome's console screwup. Those machines were *fun*).
>
more so than xterm or rxvt. haven't used gnome for years so no idea
what it uses.
What is useful depends on the bod. I give no shit about updated
window titles, nor whatever you want to use your control keys for. I
have it set up the way I like it and find it useful as so.
Zebee
Alan J Rosenthal
Dec 9, 2012, 9:11:47 PM12/9/12
to
TimC <tcon...@rather.puzzling.no-spam-accepted-here.org> writes:
>Why on earth would you need a mouse to rot13 text?
It's a little known fact that Engelbart's first hardware design job was for
Julius Caesar's army.
>Why on earth would you need a mouse to rot13 text?
It's a little known fact that Engelbart's first hardware design job was for
Julius Caesar's army.
Alan J Rosenthal
Dec 9, 2012, 9:17:23 PM12/9/12
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Juancho <jua...@notarealaddress.org> writes:
>Well, then what is the problem with a post with interspersed ROT13 passages?
Because it's fucking annoying. Presumably you write your articles to
>Well, then what is the problem with a post with interspersed ROT13 passages?
be read, so don't make it unnecessarily difficult for your readers.
Although at this rate you won't have any readers left soon (tolerance of
lusers is not our strong point here in the scany diyil menastnicey).
Wojciech Derechowski
Dec 10, 2012, 1:00:05 AM12/10/12
to
On Sat, 08 Dec 2012 22:27:24 +0000, Zebee Johnstone wrote:
> In alt.sysadmin.recovery on 08 Dec 2012 14:33:25 GMT
> Joe Zeff <the.guy.with....@lasfs.info> wrote:
>> On Sat, 08 Dec 2012 02:29:42 +0000, Zebee Johnstone wrote:
>>
>>> Something that doesn't piss people off by either being too much work or
>>> is you trying to teach your elders things they learned around the time
>>> your daddy was learning how to operate the flush button.
>>
>> You kids today don't know how good you have it. Back when *I* was young,
>> it was a lever and we *liked* it that way!
>
> I have dealt with both chains and longdrops.
Which reminds me of our stay in Paris for a couple of weeks in the chambre de
> In alt.sysadmin.recovery on 08 Dec 2012 14:33:25 GMT
> Joe Zeff <the.guy.with....@lasfs.info> wrote:
>> On Sat, 08 Dec 2012 02:29:42 +0000, Zebee Johnstone wrote:
>>
>>> Something that doesn't piss people off by either being too much work or
>>> is you trying to teach your elders things they learned around the time
>>> your daddy was learning how to operate the flush button.
>>
>> You kids today don't know how good you have it. Back when *I* was young,
>> it was a lever and we *liked* it that way!
>
> I have dealt with both chains and longdrops.
bonne type of flat in Montmartre. The place had a combination of industrial
style WC, which is basically a hole in the floor, and the shower cabin
making a neat separate bathroom of 5'x5' or so. Of course only one of us
found it neat.
Incidentally, by that time somebody had already written a medical dissertation
on the advantages of defecating in a squatting position so the whole thing was
a nice touch of Enlightenment during an overwhelmingly romantic trip.
WD
Zebee Johnstone
Dec 10, 2012, 3:02:26 AM12/10/12
to
In alt.sysadmin.recovery on Mon, 10 Dec 2012 06:00:05 -0000
Victoria in the early 1950s.
One of these had an outside loo.
Of the longdrop variety.
Which was a two holer.
She said the men of the place respected her privacy but it was still a
bit disturbing.
(not a squatter though...)
A friend of the family known as "Uncle Lindsay" had a property
somewhere up the Riverina which had been briefly "modernised" in
the 1930s with 34v electricity but that was the extend of it. As
all the 34v stuff broke he never replaced it, so when we stayed
there in the late 60s it was all kerosene lanterns and iceboxes.
The plumbing was,rainwater tanks, a chip heater and a two holer 20 yards from the
house.
The shearing shed had a magnificent six holer, the seats well polished
by generations of shearers.
Zebee
Wojciech Derechowski <wdd...@um5000.mystora.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 08 Dec 2012 22:27:24 +0000, Zebee Johnstone wrote:
>>
>> I have dealt with both chains and longdrops.
>
> Which reminds me of our stay in Paris for a couple of weeks in the chambre de
> bonne type of flat in Montmartre. The place had a combination of industrial
> style WC, which is basically a hole in the floor, and the shower cabin
> making a neat separate bathroom of 5'x5' or so. Of course only one of us
> found it neat.
My mother's honeymoon apparently included a couple of country pubs in
> On Sat, 08 Dec 2012 22:27:24 +0000, Zebee Johnstone wrote:
>>
>> I have dealt with both chains and longdrops.
>
> Which reminds me of our stay in Paris for a couple of weeks in the chambre de
> bonne type of flat in Montmartre. The place had a combination of industrial
> style WC, which is basically a hole in the floor, and the shower cabin
> making a neat separate bathroom of 5'x5' or so. Of course only one of us
> found it neat.
Victoria in the early 1950s.
One of these had an outside loo.
Of the longdrop variety.
Which was a two holer.
She said the men of the place respected her privacy but it was still a
bit disturbing.
(not a squatter though...)
A friend of the family known as "Uncle Lindsay" had a property
somewhere up the Riverina which had been briefly "modernised" in
the 1930s with 34v electricity but that was the extend of it. As
all the 34v stuff broke he never replaced it, so when we stayed
there in the late 60s it was all kerosene lanterns and iceboxes.
The plumbing was,rainwater tanks, a chip heater and a two holer 20 yards from the
house.
The shearing shed had a magnificent six holer, the seats well polished
by generations of shearers.
Zebee
John Burnham
Dec 10, 2012, 6:30:14 AM12/10/12
to
On Sat, 08 Dec 2012 18:51:33 +0100, Juancho wrote:
> David Cameron Staples wrote:
>> Plonk.
>>
>>
> I'm feeling honored.
Don't. Learn from your mistakes or piss off.
> David Cameron Staples wrote:
>> Plonk.
>>
>>
> I'm feeling honored.
Don't. Learn from your mistakes or piss off.
Hans Klager
Dec 10, 2012, 7:05:35 AM12/10/12
to
On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 08:02:26 +0000 (UTC), Zebee Johnstone
<zeb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> My mother's honeymoon apparently included a couple of country pubs in
> Victoria in the early 1950s.
>
> One of these had an outside loo.
>
> Of the longdrop variety.
>
> Which was a two holer.
My father always called two hole deep trench latrines
<zeb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> My mother's honeymoon apparently included a couple of country pubs in
> Victoria in the early 1950s.
>
> One of these had an outside loo.
>
> Of the longdrop variety.
>
> Which was a two holer.
"Two seater socialbles".
LP
Dec 10, 2012, 7:30:00 AM12/10/12
to
On 2012-12-08, Roger Burton West <roger+a...@nospam.firedrake.org> wrote:
>
> Chains are better, with a proper thunderbox at the top of the pipe.
When I (eventually) get as far as renovating the bathroom, I intend to
install exactly that.
The increase in flush pressure you get from the added height can be enough
to give you the same flush effect with less water (which is nice)
Oh, and I like the aesthetic.
-Paul
--
http://paulseward.com
>
> Chains are better, with a proper thunderbox at the top of the pipe.
When I (eventually) get as far as renovating the bathroom, I intend to
install exactly that.
The increase in flush pressure you get from the added height can be enough
to give you the same flush effect with less water (which is nice)
Oh, and I like the aesthetic.
-Paul
--
http://paulseward.com
Shmuel Metz
Dec 9, 2012, 8:29:10 PM12/9/12
to
In <50c466b2$0$6880$e4fe...@news2.news.xs4all.nl>, on 12/09/2012
at 11:23 AM, "Maarten Wiltink" <maa...@kittensandcats.net> said:
>Fascinating. As visible above,
No, what is above your text is an attribution line, not header fields
from the OP.
>your 'From' starts with a space
What are you trying to say?
>and is shown to me (Outlook Express on Windows) with both dots
>visible.
Is it really a surprise that outhouse express fails to render some
articles properly?
>Your 'Reply-To' does not have the space
What are you trying to say? The general syntax of his From and Reply
to header fields is the same.
>and thus starts with a letter that has diacritics to left of the
>main body of the letter itself
You really need to look at the article itself and not what m$ malware
renders it at. Or does lookout express not give you a way to save or
view the actual article?
at 11:23 AM, "Maarten Wiltink" <maa...@kittensandcats.net> said:
>Fascinating. As visible above,
No, what is above your text is an attribution line, not header fields
from the OP.
>your 'From' starts with a space
>and is shown to me (Outlook Express on Windows) with both dots
>visible.
articles properly?
>Your 'Reply-To' does not have the space
to header fields is the same.
>and thus starts with a letter that has diacritics to left of the
>main body of the letter itself
renders it at. Or does lookout express not give you a way to save or
view the actual article?
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Lawns 'R' Us
Dec 31, 2012, 12:51:21 AM12/31/12
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On 2012-12-08, Juancho <jua...@notarealaddress.org> wrote:
> David Cameron Staples wrote:
>> Plonk.
>
> I'm feeling honored.
I have known DCS, on a face-to-face basis, for a number of years. He
> David Cameron Staples wrote:
>> Plonk.
>
> I'm feeling honored.
is, truly, a Crusty Old Bastard of the old school variety (although,
it must be admitted, he is around my age); there are some matters in
which I would give his word far more credence than my own. He has
earnt respect from this September froup. You have not.
If he has seen fit to plonk you, I would suggest that it is not a
badge of honour.
Go away, little boy. Cease to disturb those whose shoes you are unfit
to shine, find yourself a meadow of Clue, and partake deeply of it.
Then, perhaps, we may deign to listen to your words once more.
Wojciech Derechowski
Jan 3, 2013, 2:03:13 AM1/3/13
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On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 05:51:21 +0000, Lawns 'R' Us wrote:
> On 2012-12-08, Juancho <jua...@notarealaddress.org> wrote:
>> David Cameron Staples wrote:
>>> Plonk.
>>
>> I'm feeling honored.
>
[...]
> On 2012-12-08, Juancho <jua...@notarealaddress.org> wrote:
>> David Cameron Staples wrote:
>>> Plonk.
>>
>> I'm feeling honored.
>
>
> Go away, little boy. Cease to disturb those whose shoes you are unfit
> to shine, find yourself a meadow of Clue, and partake deeply of it.
But how many clues must the meadow of Clue contain is NP-hard.[0]
> Go away, little boy. Cease to disturb those whose shoes you are unfit
> to shine, find yourself a meadow of Clue, and partake deeply of it.
Perhaps that's why we are brute-forced by lusers now and then.
WD
[0] It may be UI, but that's a hitting set problem.
Måns Nilsson
Jan 3, 2013, 3:34:32 AM1/3/13
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Den 2013-01-03 skrev Wojciech Derechowski <wdd...@um5000.mystora.com>:
> But how many clues must the meadow of Clue contain is NP-hard.[0]
> Perhaps that's why we are brute-forced by lusers now and then.
It is further complicated by the fact that the PFY (who senses it is
> But how many clues must the meadow of Clue contain is NP-hard.[0]
> Perhaps that's why we are brute-forced by lusers now and then.
suffering and desires Recovery) is not moulded in a standard form but --
bar a few streaks that seem to be near universal -- has its own set of
entry values. Some PFY do adapt quickly, some need extensive training,
and most good ones first properly cower in fear of the iron bath of the
Monastery. I read and tried to grasp the Rules for at least 3 months
before I dared to post, and then I had to learn of some technical details
that I'd failed to grasp. A true luser I was.
This particular luser seems to have gotten this procedure backwards.
Poultry before social Clue. Thus, not only is a variable amount of Clue
required but it seems to need ordering.
--
Måns Nilsson primary/secondary/besserwisser/machina
MN-1334-RIPE +46 705 989668
Place me on a BUFFER counter while you BELITTLE several BELLHOPS in the
Trianon Room!! Let me one of your SUBSIDIARIES!
Juergen Nickelsen
Jan 15, 2013, 7:58:10 AM1/15/13
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Steve VanDevender <ste...@hexadecimal.uoregon.edu> writes:
> I don't need to select text to un-ROT it, and I don't appreciate having
> to type "W r" more than about twice in an article to read it.
Oh, didn't know *that*! (Probably because I've been doing C-c C-r
since before Gnus (as opposed to GNUS) existed.)
--
We stand on the shoulders of giants and kick their ears whenever we
feel like it. -- Larry Wall
> I don't need to select text to un-ROT it, and I don't appreciate having
> to type "W r" more than about twice in an article to read it.
Oh, didn't know *that*! (Probably because I've been doing C-c C-r
since before Gnus (as opposed to GNUS) existed.)
--
We stand on the shoulders of giants and kick their ears whenever we
feel like it. -- Larry Wall
Seth
Jan 15, 2013, 7:07:33 PM1/15/13
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In article <1kusj0s.1fusthi14o39wN%i...@ster.invalid>,
� M Poster <impo...@notforspam.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>Brian Kantor <br...@karoshi.ucsd.edu> wrote:
>> <impo...@notforspam.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>> >
>> ># Why must I be a teenager in love?
>> >
>> Because by the time you're no longer a teenager you've
>> discovered that love is an illusion.
>
>In that case, I don't want to ever grow up.
If you can reach 50 without growing up, then you don't have to.
Seth
� M Poster <impo...@notforspam.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>Brian Kantor <br...@karoshi.ucsd.edu> wrote:
>> <impo...@notforspam.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>> >
>> ># Why must I be a teenager in love?
>> >
>> Because by the time you're no longer a teenager you've
>> discovered that love is an illusion.
>
>In that case, I don't want to ever grow up.
If you can reach 50 without growing up, then you don't have to.
Seth
Joe Zeff
Jan 15, 2013, 7:51:19 PM1/15/13
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On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 00:07:33 +0000, Seth wrote:
> If you can reach 50 without growing up, then you don't have to.
Several years ago, a friend of mine reached 50. On his birthday, he
> If you can reach 50 without growing up, then you don't have to.
announced that he was going to start counting his years backward. The
idea was that instead of heading toward his second childhood he'd be
going back to his first. I'm not sure how well that's working, but he's
planning on getting married for the first time RSN.
--
Joe Zeff -- The Guy With The Sideburns:
http://www.zeff.us http://www.lasfs.info
Every silver lining has a great big dark black cloud.
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