More luser-induced pain...
William R. Walsh
So Micro!#@$ got sued and had to change the way Internet Exploiter
processes ActiveX controls. Long story short, I knew it was coming and
had tested all the web based applications that are in use. All but one
of them worked just fine or were easily adapted.
The offending app only works[1] in IE, and being a Macincrash shop,
there is a Windows terminal server in place to facilitate the use of
things that don't run on Macs. I was promised an update from the
vendor two weeks ago.
So information was posted, e-mails were sent, phone calls were made
and I tried to be sure everyone knew what was coming. And the update
rolled in this morning, right as everyone had signed into the terminal
server to do their work. I wasn't about to apply the update for this
application with users on the system--no need to have any more
disasters than usual. So I set up some standalone PC workstations
where the app could be used.
And I'll be damned if a luser didn't come along and start whining
about how she needed several days worth of reports, how the system
wasn't working and maybe I just needed to come in earlier so I could
apply the update sooner! (As the BOFH might say: "nnnnggggggggggg!")
It was all I could do to quietly show her the standalone PC that had
been mentioned as being available before the update could be applied
to the terminal server, explain that it was ready to go and leave the
room...quietly.
[1] Theoretically speaking, it "works". The app is allegedly a
document retrieval system. I'm not sure--it's never been up long
enough to really tell.
(And that's to say nothing of the nitwit who waltzed into the
networking room the other day, started fiddling with cables and
brought our link to the outside world down...they broke a patch cable,
right when I'm all out of them and waiting on more to arrive. Oh well,
I hope *that* particular printer won't be missed for a while.)
William
Joe Bednorz
>I really do try not to hate lusers.
"Burn the heretic!"
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Stuart Lamble
> On Wed, 03 May 2006 05:23:14 GMT, William R. Walsh wrote:
>
>>I really do try not to hate lusers.
>
> "Burn the heretic!"
I'm trying to figure out if the correct word would be "heretic", or
"apostate".
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> On 2006-05-03, Joe Bednorz <inv...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On Wed, 03 May 2006 05:23:14 GMT, William R. Walsh wrote:
>>> I really do try not to hate lusers.
>>
>> "Burn the heretic!"
>
> I'm trying to figure out if the correct word would be "heretic",
> or "apostate".
Having read a book on European slaves in Moorish kingdoms somewhat
recently, that's an easy question. A heretic is one who has an
unacceptable faith, an apostate is one who fell from an acceptable
one.
These slaves had quite an interesting position. They were the ones
with the technical expertise to do things like keep cannon in
working order. Without them, no artillery regiments. In their time
off, they were tortured to convert to the ways of their masters.
Tebrgwrf,
Maarten Wiltink
Joe Bednorz
Those slaves are henceforth known as "The First Sysadmins."
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saying "There's something wrong with it. It keeps hitting my thumb."
Richard Gadsden
> I really do try not to hate lusers.
Why?
William R. Walsh
>> I really do try not to hate lusers.
>
>Why?
It doesn't matter--it doesn't work.
William
William R. Walsh
> "Burn the heretic!"
I said "try", not succeed. I really do hate lusers...
William
Geoff Kinnel
is ample reason for a visit from the Quisition. Recanting your beliefs
but muttering "eppur si muove" (or De Chelonian Mobile, if you prefer)
didn't work then, and won't work now.
*dusts off the comfy chair* [0]
gk
[0] Yes, yes, I know I've made a hash of various {In|Ex}Quisition references.
Jim
> In article <ua9h52tsgng5mn6dl...@4ax.com>, William R Walsh wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>>> "Burn the heretic!"
>>
>> I said "try", not succeed. I really do hate lusers...
>>
> Merely holding the belief that lusers might be worthy of lack-of-hate
> is ample reason for a visit from the Quisition. Recanting your beliefs
> but muttering "eppur si muove" (or De Chelonian Mobile, if you prefer)
> didn't work then, and won't work now.
>
> *dusts off the comfy chair* [0]
I'm standing by with the nice cup of tea. Just say the word.
Jim
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News
> So Micro!#@$ got sued and had to change the way Internet Exploiter
> processes ActiveX controls.
Sorry, but didn't MS promise us that because we paid them an arm, leg and a
funny growth from the elbow, they would protect us from this kind of event?
Where does one submit the invoices to cover the costs involved in fixing
this MS fsck up?
Thomas Womack
Maarten Wiltink <usene...@mfw.dds.nl> wrote:
>These slaves had quite an interesting position. They were the ones
>with the technical expertise to do things like keep cannon in
>working order. Without them, no artillery regiments. In their time
>off, they were tortured to convert to the ways of their masters.
Were a statistically unexpected number of masters sadly killed in
unfortunate and entirely unforeseeable artillery accidents?
Tom
Robert Sneddon
<two...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes
>In article <44586ac2$0$31645$e4fe...@news.xs4all.nl>,
>Maarten Wiltink <usene...@mfw.dds.nl> wrote:
>
>>These slaves had quite an interesting position. They were the ones
>>with the technical expertise to do things like keep cannon in
>>working order.
>
>unfortunate and entirely unforeseeable artillery accidents?
"Excuse my presumption, Master, but something appears to be stuck.
Could your exaltedness take this lighted taper and have a look down the
barrel for our unworthy selves?"
<whisper> "Come on, he'll never fall for that, will he?"
<whisper> "The last fifteen of them have. Why should this one be any
different?"
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Stuart Lamble
> "Stuart Lamble" <7d6-...@carousel.its.monash.edu.au> wrote in message
> news:slrne5gi2m....@carousel.its.monash.edu.au...
>> On 2006-05-03, Joe Bednorz <inv...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 03 May 2006 05:23:14 GMT, William R. Walsh wrote:
>
>>>> I really do try not to hate lusers.
>>>
>>> "Burn the heretic!"
>>
>> I'm trying to figure out if the correct word would be "heretic",
>> or "apostate".
>
> Having read a book on European slaves in Moorish kingdoms somewhat
> recently, that's an easy question. A heretic is one who has an
> unacceptable faith, an apostate is one who fell from an acceptable
> one.
Yes, I know what the difference is between the two. The issue is whether
William has an unacceptable faith, or whether he used to have an
acceptable one and has since fallen.
I suppose that if one is an apostate, then one is also a heretic. But I
also seem to recall that historically speaking, the penalties for
apostasy were greater than those for heresy. Of course, I could easily
be wrong.
Warren Block
>
> (And that's to say nothing of the nitwit who waltzed into the
> networking room the other day, started fiddling with cables and
> brought our link to the outside world down...they broke a patch cable,
> right when I'm all out of them and waiting on more to arrive. Oh well,
> I hope *that* particular printer won't be missed for a while.)
Making patch cables is an excellent character-building exercise for the
PFY, particularly when those cables are then used in applications that
the PFY must support. My PFYs built lots of cables, although the cable
tester was less than enthused at most of the early ones.
--
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Howard S Shubs
Stuart Lamble <7d6-...@carousel.its.monash.edu.au> wrote:
> I suppose that if one is an apostate, then one is also a heretic. But I
> also seem to recall that historically speaking, the penalties for
> apostasy were greater than those for heresy. Of course, I could easily
> be wrong.
No, you've got it. $THEY don't like it when people who once agreed with
them change their mind. It's worse than if someone who never agreed
with them continues that way, as $THEY can at least say that the
heretic/pagan/barbarian is just ignorant and has a chance to come to an
understanding and acceptance. Can't say that about an apostate, as
that's a KNOWING rejection.
--
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Wandering by lone sea-breakers, And sitting by desolate streams.
from "Ode", Arthur O'Shaughnessy
stevo
> On 2006-05-03, Joe Bednorz <inv...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On Wed, 03 May 2006 05:23:14 GMT, William R. Walsh wrote:
>>
>>>I really do try not to hate lusers.
>>
>> "Burn the heretic!"
>
> I'm trying to figure out if the correct word would be "heretic", or
> "apostate".
>
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Evolution can be mean. There's no dumb-ass vaccine
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Maarten Wiltink
news:howard-A6DF1B....@news.supernews.com...
[...]
> No, you've got it. $THEY don't like it when people who once agreed
You mean $THEM.
Tebrgwrf,
Maarten Wiltink
Maarten Wiltink
news:4459897e$0$16939$5a62...@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> Stuart Lamble <7d6-...@carousel.its.monash.edu.au> wrote:
[...]
>> I'm trying to figure out if the correct word would be "heretic", or
>> "apostate".
>>
> Is there a single word term for "in the wrong froup"?
That would be 'heretic'.
Tebrgwrf,
Maarten Wiltink
Warren Block
> Warren Block posted thus:
>>Making patch cables is an excellent character-building exercise for the
>>PFY, particularly when those cables are then used in applications that
>>the PFY must support. My PFYs built lots of cables, although the cable
>>tester was less than enthused at most of the early ones.
>
> can reflect on how inexpensively one can buy factory patch cables as
> they work, and further reflect on how the BOFH can treat their time as
> if it's not worth dirt, Just Because He Can.
They might, if the BOFH did not move on to other exercises once they'd
shown they could consistently build a working cable.
Kenneth Brody
[...]
> (And that's to say nothing of the nitwit who waltzed into the
> networking room the other day, started fiddling with cables and
> brought our link to the outside world down...they broke a patch cable,
> right when I'm all out of them and waiting on more to arrive. Oh well,
> I hope *that* particular printer won't be missed for a while.)
s/printer/nitwit/
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> (As the BOFH might say: "nnnnggggggggggg!")
s/say/hear through the pillow he's pressing on her face/
ok
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Dave
Warren Block <wbl...@wonkity.com> wrote:
> Making patch cables is an excellent character-building exercise for the
> PFY, particularly when those cables are then used in applications that
> the PFY must support. My PFYs built lots of cables, although the cable
> tester was less than enthused at most of the early ones.
Nooooooooo - I eventually discovered that my predecessor spent almost
his entire time at ork locked in his office making cables[1]. Badly.
And didn't even bother testing them thoroughly.
I spent must of my first sixth months[2] ripping out all his bloody
patch cables and putting in new ones.
Dave
[1] I mostly spend it playing ADOM.
[2] After the other, piddling bits of work that he'd failed to
accomplish such as inventories, documentation, security and buying
servers from vendors whose contact details didn't consist solely of a
mobile phone number for a bloke called Keith.
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Peter Corlett
[...]
> [2] After the other, piddling bits of work that he'd failed to accomplish
> such as inventories, documentation, security and buying servers from
> vendors whose contact details didn't consist solely of a mobile phone
> number for a bloke called Keith.
You have the bloke's name *and* a working phone number, and you're
complaining?
Nobody has dared put a name and phone number to the junk I've got to deal
with.
Dave
ab...@cabal.org.uk (Peter Corlett) wrote:
> You have the bloke's name *and* a working phone number, and you're
> complaining?
Actually, I might have kind of admired him when I realised he'd managed
to sell my predecessor a bunch of PCs for use in a environment full of
cement dust which had CPU fans a BIOS that could measure the speed of
the said fan speed but would do absolutely nothing with the data.
Oh, and funny shaped PSUs that were a different shape to what the
manufactures own spec sheets said.
Of course, I inherited them, so he was in the end determined to be a
git-face and Shyster of the worst kind.
Dave
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James Wilkinson
> You have the bloke's name *and* a working phone number, and you're
> complaining?
>
> Nobody has dared put a name and phone number to the junk I've got to deal
> with.
Well, there's always the option of a known local company, with a site
you can visit and Actual Staff. Who sell PCs based on CPPuvcf
motherboards with FvF 530 chipsets.
That was a source of UI for both us and the supplier. Unfortunately, the
supplier was rather more exposed to the UI than we were. I think we
might have got one replacement (identical) motherboard out of them, and
by the time we realised quite how worthless a trade that was (and how
literally the board was identical) the firm had folded.
As far as I can tell, Gvzr of late lamented memory used very similar
kit -- hence the lamentations.
James.
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Jasper Janssen
<see...@westexe.demon.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>Well, there's always the option of a known local company, with a site
>you can visit and Actual Staff. Who sell PCs based on CPPuvcf
>motherboards with FvF 530 chipsets.
Way Back When in 1998, I bought two CPPuvcf motherboards, because they
were cheap. One Super Socket Seven with AGP slot for myself, for the slow
upgrade path, and the other a Socket Seven for my grandmother's new
computer[1]. Mine worked, more or less, although for values of worked that
caused me to upgrade again 6 months later (and I'm usually a
keep-stuff-for-1-3 years guy) and put it on the shelf. My grandmother's
didn't work, at all. The 'TXPro' on the chipset yielded some clues, though
-- it was utter crap not even made by a company willing to put its name on
things like SiS or ALi.
I ended up giving her my Asus TX97-E in trade, which worked first time,
perfectly, and for the next nearly 8 years -- despite being already a used
board by that time. The CPPuvcf S7 motherboard eventually ended up with my
P166MMX on it and served reasonably well as a server for a fair while -- I
suspect mainly because it wasn't actually asked to have a useful graphics
card in there. Both of those motherboards, I think, after I retired them,
ended up finding their way to a friend of mine who I could not dissuade
from the idea that they might be a worthwhile addition to his stable. I
did my best, overcharged him wildly, warned him liberally... all to no
avail.
As for me personally, that was the month I vowed never ever to let any
more CPPuvcf products into my house.
Jasper (and god help you if pre-P6-core-era kit is still UI for you)
[1] Which was, incidentally, retired without ever having been upgraded[2]
last month, in favout of a Mac Mini G4 Superdrive.
[2] Apart from non-working AT power supply for working, once or twice, and
possibly a fan here or there.