Yet another glass (or carafe, or quart, or gallon) of whine
Mike Andrews
today, and $CONTRACTOR isn't getting it, and will I please fix the
problem Right Now?!?!
Other end of the SMTP transaction is returning "dsn=2.0.0 Stat=Sent
Queued mail for delivery."
This is my problem _how_, exactly?
So I tell her and the HellDesk that once it's signed for ("dsn=2.0.0
Stat=Sent Queued mail for delivery", remember), it's the responsibility
of the distant end's mailswerver, which I don't run.
Likely I'll get a rocket up my arse for that. I don't care; I'm still
sick from that damn URI I got in .fi or .se. I feel like a zombie out
of Varley's _Titan_ trilogy: my mind's going *Thump!*, *Thump!*,
*Thump!*, as I try to turn it over, instead of rolling sweetly on non-
friction bearings.
--
A doctor can bury his mistakes but an architect can only advise his
clients to plant vines. -- Frank Lloyd Wright
Blinkin the Misanthropic IT Gremlin
dark pit:
> My user tells me she sent mail to $CONTRACTOR on 23 August, and again
> today, and $CONTRACTOR isn't getting it, and will I please fix the
> problem Right Now?!?!
>
> Other end of the SMTP transaction is returning "dsn=2.0.0 Stat=Sent
> Queued mail for delivery."
>
> This is my problem _how_, exactly?
Obviously because you are the administrator, doesn't that mean you are
everyone's administrator? Oh wait, you mean you aren't the almighty
internet conductor who tells which packet trains to go through Grand CPU
at what times?
> So I tell her and the HellDesk that once it's signed for ("dsn=2.0.0
> Stat=Sent Queued mail for delivery", remember), it's the responsibility
> of the distant end's mailswerver, which I don't run.
This would have been a perfect time for an excuse calendar usage.
Something like: noospheric interference with gps to explain why her
email is getting lost.
> Likely I'll get a rocket up my arse for that. I don't care; I'm still
> sick from that damn URI I got in .fi or .se. I feel like a zombie out
> of Varley's _Titan_ trilogy: my mind's going *Thump!*, *Thump!*,
> *Thump!*, as I try to turn it over, instead of rolling sweetly on non-
> friction bearings.
>
I got nothin'.
--
Blinkin the Misanthropic IT Gremlin
Servant of the Sheep World by Day
Dark Master of the Mole People by Eventide
Steve VanDevender
> I'm still sick from that damn URI I got in .fi or .se.
Wow, what kind of nasty content does that URI fetch?
--
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Mike Andrews
Steve VanDevender <ste...@hexadecimal.uoregon.edu> wrote in
<fb4sb8$14cc$2...@isis.novusordo.net>:
> "Mike Andrews" <mi...@mikea.ath.cx> writes:
>> I'm still sick from that damn URI I got in .fi or .se.
> Wow, what kind of nasty content does that URI fetch?
Really ugly virus, doesn't care if you run Windows, *[ui]x, SVR4,
SlowLoris, or whatever else: it'll infect you.
I really don't know if it's something we caught on the ferry, in the
p^Hhiss, or on the T-bana, and I don't care. Melody's sucking on the
nebulizer right now, with a vial of sterile saline in it, to try to
clear her lungs some more, and I'm ... well, describing it would be
TMI.
--
"Men are from Mars, women are from Venus,
pop psychology is from Uranus." -- B...@lspace.org
Bogdan Iamandei
> On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:35:20 -0700,
> Steve VanDevender <ste...@hexadecimal.uoregon.edu> wrote in
> <fb4sb8$14cc$2...@isis.novusordo.net>:
>
>> "Mike Andrews" <mi...@mikea.ath.cx> writes:
>
>>> I'm still sick from that damn URI I got in .fi or .se.
>
>> Wow, what kind of nasty content does that URI fetch?
>
> Really ugly virus, doesn't care if you run Windows, *[ui]x, SVR4,
> SlowLoris, or whatever else: it'll infect you.
Damn! These multiplatform, architecture independent attacks
are really gathering pace these days.
I would like a few words with the $DEITY_COPRO_GRAMMER responsible
for this cockup...
Unless, it was a calculated move. Now where did I put my tinfoil
beanie?
> I really don't know if it's something we caught on the ferry, in the
> p^Hhiss, or on the T-bana, and I don't care. Melody's sucking on the
> nebulizer right now, with a vial of sterile saline in it, to try to
> clear her lungs some more, and I'm ... well, describing it would be
> TMI.
Well, here's to the both of you - get well soon!
Ino!~
--
I have seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire
off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark
near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time,
like tears in rain. Time to die.
Tai
> On 8/29/2007 1:43 PM, Mike Andrews exclaimed while being cast into a
> dark pit:
>> Queued mail for delivery."
>>
>> This is my problem _how_, exactly?
>
> Obviously because you are the administrator, doesn't that mean you are
> everyone's administrator? Oh wait, you mean you aren't the almighty
Nah, the expectation is that the problem has been reported, and
now someone needs to "own" it. It's email, right? So, it is Unca
Mike's problem to own, to baby, and to nourish, until it grows up and
leaves. Or get handed over to someone else. But you're still expected
to followup on it. At this point, they're probably going to get Unca
Mike to call the other side, and help them troubleshoot their internal
mail swervers.
-Tai
--
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http://www.kenthamilton.net/humor/humor.html
http://www.despair.com/demotivators/cluelessness.html
"What we have done with PCs so far is not natural" - Craig Mundie, CTO Microsoft
Tai
> On 2007-08-29, Mike Andrews <mi...@mikea.ath.cx> wrote:
>> On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:35:20 -0700,
>> Steve VanDevender <ste...@hexadecimal.uoregon.edu> wrote in
>> <fb4sb8$14cc$2...@isis.novusordo.net>:
>>
>>> "Mike Andrews" <mi...@mikea.ath.cx> writes:
>>
>>>> I'm still sick from that damn URI I got in .fi or .se.
>>
>>> Wow, what kind of nasty content does that URI fetch?
>>
>> Really ugly virus, doesn't care if you run Windows, *[ui]x, SVR4,
>> SlowLoris, or whatever else: it'll infect you.
>
> Damn! These multiplatform, architecture independent attacks
> are really gathering pace these days.
It's what you deserve, for running PHP.
Mike Andrews
Tai <t...@urd.spidernet.to> wrote in
<slrnfdc6t...@urd.spidernet.to>:
> While pretending to be roadkill on the InfoBahn, <aybl...@gmail.com> scrawled:
>> On 8/29/2007 1:43 PM, Mike Andrews exclaimed while being cast into a
>> dark pit:
>>> Other end of the SMTP transaction is returning "dsn=2.0.0 Stat=Sent
>>> Queued mail for delivery."
>>>
>>> This is my problem _how_, exactly?
>>
>> Obviously because you are the administrator, doesn't that mean you are
>> everyone's administrator? Oh wait, you mean you aren't the almighty
> Nah, the expectation is that the problem has been reported, and
> now someone needs to "own" it. It's email, right? So, it is Unca
> Mike's problem to own, to baby, and to nourish, until it grows up and
> leaves. Or get handed over to someone else. But you're still expected
> to followup on it. At this point, they're probably going to get Unca
> Mike to call the other side, and help them troubleshoot their internal
> mail swervers.
Got one of *those* in the bag, too.
Turns out that the folks who were supposed to be taking care of stuff
while I was recovering didn't.
They didn't run the daily DB updater to suck mail logs in.
They didn't do a bunch of other housekeeping.
And in particular they didn't read-and-respond-to complaints.
I did, Monday. One was from $BANK, saying "Please stop blocking our
mail." I looked. Mail was blocked because $BANK EHLOed with a non-FQDN
string: no "." in it at all, I wrote $ADMIN@$BANK, saying so and
offering to help. Response had Clue: "No. Contractors fscked up, and
you're not the only one to quite properly REJECT the transaction. We
fixed it. ThHanks."
$ESTIMATION{$BANK}++;
Other complaints weren't as much fun.
--
... Guitar smashing doesn't bother me. Some "need" smashing.
-- Chet Atkins
Mike Andrews
Gallian <gal...@linuxmail.org> wrote in
<86d4x51...@gareth.avalon.lan>:
> "Mike Andrews" <mi...@mikea.ath.cx> writes:
>> My user tells me she sent mail to $CONTRACTOR on 23 August, and again
>> today, and $CONTRACTOR isn't getting it, and will I please fix the
>> problem Right Now?!?!
>>
>> Other end of the SMTP transaction is returning "dsn=2.0.0 Stat=Sent
>> Queued mail for delivery."
>>
>> This is my problem _how_, exactly?
> Oh yes, tell me about it.
> We resell $ANTI-SPAM-SERVICE, which consists basically of outsourcing
> mail relay to their servers. A regular incident logged by our
> customers is: "My mail is not delivered. This is the fault of
> $ANTI-SPAM-SERVICE".
> Of course, once we have a copy of the NDR, nine times out of ten it
> turns out to be the receiving server giving various 5xx errors like
> "user does not exist".
> And don't talk to me about customer 'sysadmins' who claim that serious
> mail servers don't need rDNS.
s/nine times out of ten/ten times out of nine/
There. Now it conforms to reality. HTH. HAND.
--
Lots of couples say, "We want a baby."
I never heard one say, "We want a teen-ager."
-- Ruth Moore, private communication
Mike Andrews
Davide Bianchi <davidey...@onlyforfun.net> wrote in
<slrnfde2m9.2kg...@fogg.onlyforfun.net>:
> On 2007-08-30, Gallian <gal...@linuxmail.org> wrote:
>> Of course, once we have a copy of the NDR, nine times out of ten it
>> turns out to be the receiving server giving various 5xx errors like
>> "user does not exist".
> Today I finally got a returned mail from one user that claimed that
> all mails from the like of lnubb and ubgznvy were refused because of
> our antispam. It turned out that the moron that sent the mail couldn't
> spell his name. Of course it toke about a week before he could be
> persuaded that the problem was sitting in front of the keyboard and
> not in the antispam.
"Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will
the right answers come out?"
My current outbound queue is only about 25 items, all but one because
the sender got the address wrong in one particular (mailbox) or another
(domain).
How the _fsck_ do they manage to drive, dial a phone, or breed?
Makes *me* think about toking a week or two.
--
With a Dremel tool and a cut-off wheel, _everything_ takes a flat-blade
screwdriver. -- Matt Roberds
With a Dremel tool and a cutoff wheel, anything will take a flatblade
screwdriver. -- Jay Maynard, K5ZC
Alan J Rosenthal
>How the _fsck_ do they manage to drive,
Steer in the approximate direction.
>dial a phone,
Dial a wrong number.
>or breed?
Squirt in the approximate direction.
Bogdan Iamandei
> "Mike Andrews" <mi...@mikea.ath.cx> writes:
>>How the _fsck_ do they manage to drive,
>
> Steer in the approximate direction.
<click-click>... I've got nothing here.
>
>>dial a phone,
>
> Dial a wrong number.
And keep dialing... you're bound to hit the right number
sooner or later.
>
>>or breed?
>
> Squirt in the approximate direction.
Um... I think this might also have to do with a brute force attack.
Insert Tab A in Slot B. Insert Tab A in Slot C. Insert Tab A in slot A
Rub Tab A against the frame containing afore-mentioned slots.
Jasper Janssen
<mi...@mikea.ath.cx> wrote:
>I did, Monday. One was from $BANK, saying "Please stop blocking our
>mail." I looked. Mail was blocked because $BANK EHLOed with a non-FQDN
>string: no "." in it at all, I wrote $ADMIN@$BANK, saying so and
>offering to help. Response had Clue: "No. Contractors fscked up, and
>you're not the only one to quite properly REJECT the transaction. We
>fixed it. ThHanks."
>
>$ESTIMATION{$BANK}++;
$VAR--; for saying "No." as opposed to "No thanks.", though. Politeness
matters.
Jasper
Mike Andrews
Jasper Janssen <jas...@jjanssen.org> wrote in
<ukped3lrvcr4klmam...@4ax.com>:
He actually did say "Thanks, but it was our problem." $ESTIMATION{$BANK}++;
--
...the [APL] Execution Environment (makes me think about sunny walls,
indifferent marksmen, and the offer of a blindfold and a cigarette)...
-- Mike Andrews
Alexander Schreiber
> On 2007-08-30, Alan J Rosenthal <fl...@dgp.toronto.edu> wrote:
>> "Mike Andrews" <mi...@mikea.ath.cx> writes:
>>>How the _fsck_ do they manage to drive,
>>
>> Steer in the approximate direction.
>
><click-click>... I've got nothing here.
>
>>
>>>dial a phone,
>>
>> Dial a wrong number.
>
> And keep dialing... you're bound to hit the right number
> sooner or later.
>
>>
>>>or breed?
>>
>> Squirt in the approximate direction.
>
> Um... I think this might also have to do with a brute force attack.
> Insert Tab A in Slot B. Insert Tab A in Slot C. Insert Tab A in slot A
> Rub Tab A against the frame containing afore-mentioned slots.
So set up some slots with a suitable shredding apparatus behind them.
It is bound to get _some_ of them.
ISAGN,
Alex.
--
"Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and
looks like work." -- Thomas A. Edison
Richard Bos
> On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 00:54:46 GMT,
> Jasper Janssen <jas...@jjanssen.org> wrote in
> <ukped3lrvcr4klmam...@4ax.com>:
>
> > On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 11:48:49 +0000 (UTC), "Mike Andrews"
> > <mi...@mikea.ath.cx> wrote:
>
> >>I did, Monday. One was from $BANK, saying "Please stop blocking our
> >>mail." I looked. Mail was blocked because $BANK EHLOed with a non-FQDN
> >>string: no "." in it at all, I wrote $ADMIN@$BANK, saying so and
> >>offering to help. Response had Clue: "No. Contractors fscked up, and
> >>you're not the only one to quite properly REJECT the transaction. We
> >>fixed it. ThHanks."
> >>
> >>$ESTIMATION{$BANK}++;
>
> > $VAR--; for saying "No." as opposed to "No thanks.", though. Politeness
> > matters.
>
> He actually did say "Thanks, but it was our problem." $ESTIMATION{$BANK}++;
So enlighten us as to the value of $BANK. Name & Shame should work the
other way as well.
Richard
Richard Bos
> Bogdan Iamandei <chi...@wziejxwoa.jap> wrote:
> > On 2007-08-30, Alan J Rosenthal <fl...@dgp.toronto.edu> wrote:
> >> "Mike Andrews" <mi...@mikea.ath.cx> writes:
> >>>How the _fsck_ do they manage to drive,
> >>>or breed?
> >>
> >> Squirt in the approximate direction.
> >
> > Um... I think this might also have to do with a brute force attack.
> > Insert Tab A in Slot B. Insert Tab A in Slot C. Insert Tab A in slot A
> > Rub Tab A against the frame containing afore-mentioned slots.
>
> So set up some slots with a suitable shredding apparatus behind them.
> It is bound to get _some_ of them.
Giving a whole new meaning to the term "glory hole".
Richard
Mike Andrews
Richard Bos <ral...@xs4all.nl> wrote in
<46d84d11...@news.xs4all.nl>:
> So enlighten us as to the value of $BANK. Name & Shame should work the
> other way as well.
Wish I could. It's a $ORKPLACE deal, though, and I can't. Very sorry
not to be able to place some word-fame where it'd do some good.
--
A man's got to do what a man's got to do. A woman must do what he can't.
- Rhonda Hansome
Steve VanDevender
> Makes *me* think about toking a week or two.
After the past couple of weeks I'm beginning to think about toking a
week or two, and I have refused to smoke anything of any sort all my
life. I wouldn't have a problem with brownies, though.
--
Steve VanDevender "I ride the big iron" http://hexadecimal.uoregon.edu/
ste...@hexadecimal.uoregon.edu PGP keyprint 4AD7AF61F0B9DE87 522902969C0A7EE8
Little things break, circuitry burns / Time flies while my little world turns
Every day comes, every day goes / 100 years and nobody shows -- Happy Rhodes
Richard Bos
> On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 21:56:33 GMT,
> Richard Bos <ral...@xs4all.nl> wrote in
> <46d84d11...@news.xs4all.nl>:
>
> > So enlighten us as to the value of $BANK. Name & Shame should work the
> > other way as well.
>
> Wish I could. It's a $ORKPLACE deal, though, and I can't. Very sorry
> not to be able to place some word-fame where it'd do some good.
Is that because of $ORK security, or because of $BANK security? If the
latter, it might help if you asked them whether you are allowed to make
this kind of advertisement for them.
Richard
Mike Andrews
> "Mike Andrews" <mi...@mikea.ath.cx> wrote:
$ORK.
I can get away with a lot, but actually naming names w.r.t. stuff I do
(other than fsckwit venduhs) is Right Out.
David Gallatin
> Bogdan Iamandei <chi...@wziejxwoa.jap> wrote:
>> Um... I think this might also have to do with a brute force attack.
>> Insert Tab A in Slot B. Insert Tab A in Slot C. Insert Tab A in slot A
>> Rub Tab A against the frame containing afore-mentioned slots.
>
> So set up some slots with a suitable shredding apparatus behind them.
> It is bound to get _some_ of them.
>
This may have been tried before. It would certainly provide a kernel of
truth for the long-standing myth of vagina dentata.