New acquisition!
Joe Thompson
It's digital. It's programmable. It has station presets. It has a
speaker wattage in the low three digits. And it even came with a 60W
subwoofer! It's the only stereo they had that did. And it has a set of
rear speakers for surround-sound. And a Dolby decoder. And it turns out
it was priced $50 lower than the price on the shelf.
The remote even makes sense. You can do things like play tapes from the
remote. My last stereo would laugh hysterically at you if you asked it
where the tape-play button was on the remote. Then it would blink its
lights in what I can only assume was a spell invoking Murphy. The guy
upstairs has it now. I gave it to him. It's only fair; it's his Loreena
McKennit CD trapped in it, not mine.
You can't do things like open the CD tray or cassette doors from the
remote, but then, you have to walk over there anyway to change items out,
so that's excusable.
About the only complaints I have are that it's a 3-disc rather than a
5-disc model, and that when you hit the "pause" on the remote you cancel
pause by hitting "play", unlike every other playback device I've ever
owned. Additionally, some of the console buttons are grouped weird, but
you get used to that.
By far, though, the best feature is the wakeup function. At the
designated time, the stereo fades in to the volume you left it at. So
when I set my alarm for 08:00, I set the stereo for 08:15 and around the
time I might otherwise fall back asleep, the stereo wakes me back up and
gives me something to keep me awake without annoying the bejeezus out of
my housemates. Believe me, at 8:00 something better keep me awake, all
right.
The part that frightens me is the item in the table of contents labeled
"Resetting the Microcomputer": "While pressing down the VOLUME [down]
button and the >>/|>> button, hold down the POWER button for at least 1
second."
Yes, apparently I can three-finger-salute my stereo.
Now I just need to figure out how to amp it up a bit. I guess I could buy
an amp and just slap it on, but I understand the distortion is horrible
when you do that. Plus I can't afford to suck but so much power at a
time... -- Joe
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Dan Grabski
> Last night I picked up a new shelf stereo. It's so... right.
Sounds like about what I got this past Christmas. If so, have fun -- it's a
great aid to recovery, or creating standing waves of sound in lusers'
skulls. Congratulations.
If you have a graphical equalizer and balance controls, learn how to use
them well...it's so nice being able to feel the full force of the bass of
your favorite luser-annoying music. :)
Dan
--
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"Developing error messages? Doesn't Windows have enough of these
already? And we need a whole fscking book on how to do this?"
-- Derick Siddoway on O'Reilly NT books
Mike Sphar
write the following? Read the book:
>"Developing error messages? Doesn't Windows have enough of these
> already? And we need a whole fscking book on how to do this?"
> -- Derick Siddoway on O'Reilly NT books
Speaking of error messages, this reminds me of the error message I got from
Yahoo today:
An error has occurred accessing your mailbox[1].
This should never happen.
Gosh, thanks! I passed it on to the developers so they could work that
message into every error message our product has.
[1] No, I don't use Yahoo for mail. I've just taken advantage of their
external mail checking as a convenient place to periodically check for mail
sent to old ISP accounts that I've cancelled but which are still active.
--
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I think that sick people in Ankh-Morpork generally go to a vet. It's
generally a better bet. There's more pressure on a vet to get it right.
People say "it was god's will" when granny dies, but they get *angry*
when they lose a cow. -- Terry Pratchett
Mike Sphar
write the following? Read the book:
>5-disc model, and that when you hit the "pause" on the remote you cancel
>pause by hitting "play", unlike every other playback device I've ever
>owned. Additionally, some of the console buttons are grouped weird, but
>you get used to that.
FWIW, both of my VCRs are unpaused the same way. (But that's because
repeatedly pressing pause moves the tape forward slightly each time.) It
does seem odd on a cd player though.
>By far, though, the best feature is the wakeup function. At the
>designated time, the stereo fades in to the volume you left it at. So
>when I set my alarm for 08:00, I set the stereo for 08:15 and around the
>time I might otherwise fall back asleep, the stereo wakes me back up and
>gives me something to keep me awake without annoying the bejeezus out of
>my housemates. Believe me, at 8:00 something better keep me awake, all
>right.
Yes, my stereo has the same feature and I love it as well. It means I can
go to sleep listening to something relaxing and then have it switch over to
something more stimulating in the morning.
>The part that frightens me is the item in the table of contents labeled
>"Resetting the Microcomputer": "While pressing down the VOLUME [down]
>button and the >>/|>> button, hold down the POWER button for at least 1
>second."
>
>Yes, apparently I can three-finger-salute my stereo.
Let us know when they send you your first service pack.
What's the brand/model of the system, just out of curiosity?
Tanuki the Raccoon-dog
Thompson <fbi...@orion-com.com> said
>The part that frightens me is the item in the table of contents labeled
>"Resetting the Microcomputer": "While pressing down the VOLUME [down]
>button and the >>/|>> button, hold down the POWER button for at least 1
>second."
>
>Yes, apparently I can three-finger-salute my stereo.
Just make sure you eject any bootable CDs before trying this;
you wouldn't want your stereo to try auto-installing WIN95,
now would you?
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Joe Thompson
> Did Ancient Astronauts named fbi...@orion-com.com (Joe Thompson) once
> write the following? Read the book:
>
>
> What's the brand/model of the system, just out of curiosity?
It's a Sharp <mumble>-3800. There's a 3400 which apparently doesn't have some
of the neato-keen features on it.
It cost a respectable chunk of money, but my theory on stereos is the same as
my theory on coffee and alcohol: if you're going to buy, buy *quality*. -- Joe
Eric The Read
> Speaking of error messages, this reminds me of the error message I got from
> Yahoo today:
>
> An error has occurred accessing your mailbox[1].
>
> This should never happen.
>
> Gosh, thanks! I passed it on to the developers so they could work that
> message into every error message our product has.
At this point, I think it's incumbent upon every one of us who has to
actually write code to read <1996102906...@gomez.fs.com.au>. A
beautiful example of some copro-grammers (not cow-orkers; they just
apparently write shite) LARTing themselves in a rather public fashion.
-=Eric
Tanuki the Raccoon-dog
<fbi...@orion-com.com> said
This is the same principle that means I refuse to spend any significant
time[1] sitting in front of a non-Trinitron tube[2]...
[1]or spend any of _my_ money on purchasing
[2]although seventeen inches is just *not* enough for
1500x1200 or higher rezzes.
--
!Raised Tails! -:Tanuki:-
http://www.canismajor.demon.co.uk/index.html
"Embarassment is when you cough up a fur-ball, and then someone notices that
it's not __your__ fur-colour"
Shalon Wood
Ok, how the hell do you find a specific post on dejanews via msgid? I
can't find any easy way to do it..
Shalon Wood
tim
fbi...@orion-com.com (Joe Thompson) wrote:
>On Wed, 21 Apr 1999 06:57:16 GMT, Mike Sphar <mi...@matches.com> wrote:
>> Did Ancient Astronauts named fbi...@orion-com.com (Joe Thompson) once
>> write the following? Read the book:
>> >Yes, apparently I can three-finger-salute my stereo.
>>
>> Let us know when they send you your first service pack.
>>
>> What's the brand/model of the system, just out of curiosity?
>
>It's a Sharp <mumble>-3800. There's a 3400 which apparently doesn't have some
>of the neato-keen features on it.
>
>It cost a respectable chunk of money, but my theory on stereos is the same as
>my theory on coffee and alcohol: if you're going to buy, buy *quality*. -- Joe
Out of mild curiousity, how many sysadmins are audiophiles? I would have
imagined a higher than average proportion.
Personally I've got three "main" stereos (not counting portables). One
shelf system similar to the one described above for the bedroom, and two
separates systems, one in the study/games room (Cambridge Audio / JPW) and
the main system in the living room (NAD / Sony / Rotel / Mission).
Together with a fairly comprehensive selection of audio media, and a nice
set of Sennheiser headphones for late night listening.
Is this normal[1]? Anyone else out there want to confess a hifi habit that
costs more than their computer fix?
Cheers,
Tim.
[1] Well, as normal as we get...
(fscking newsreader bombed when I tried to send this the first time... If
this is the second copy that shows up, please feel free to LART me)
--
I want to find a voracious, small-minded predator and name it after the IRS.
Boff
21049918...@read-rfc1918-for-details.iana.net>:
>Is this normal[1]? Anyone else out there want to confess a hifi habit that
>costs more than their computer fix?
Just splashed out a small fortune on a Sony home theatre system. Cost
Lots(tm), and I'm happy.[2] Can't remember model numbers but if anyone
else knows anything, it's the one with the four feet high speakers and a 5
CD changer in the middle of the right speaker.
Agree with Joe on the 'quality' comment - if it doesn't send shivers down
your spine when you listen to it, why waste a single cent on it?
It can get expensive, though. This system was bought as a 'best I can
afford'[3] stop-gap until I can /really/ afford a B&O setup. Drool. Like
that's gonna happen anytime soon.
Boff
[1] NMF
[2] With the quality, of course, not the price
[3] For relative values of 'afford'
Darrell Fuhriman
> Ok, how the hell do you find a specific post on dejanews via msgid? I
> can't find any easy way to do it..
You don't. I sent them an e-mail quite a while back (> 1yr)
suggesting that feature. They said, "Yes, that's a good idea."
Of course, nothing's been done.
Darrell
Joe Thompson
> --
> I want to find a voracious, small-minded predator and name it after the IRS.
Your sig delimiter is wrong.
No, really, I actually wanted to comment on your sig. See, "voracious" has an
entirely different meaning for AFUista, one which can in no way be associated
with the IRS. -- Joe
Joe Thompson
> On Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:16:54 -0400, Joe Thompson vouchsafed:
>
> >The remote even makes sense. You can do things like play tapes from the
> >remote.
>
When I opened the battery door, the remote's passport and complimentary bag of
peanuts fell out. (It's a big remote.)
One thing it does not have is Cool Glowy Buttons(tm). Jon will just have to
suffer I suppose... -- Joe
Mark Atwood
> Eric The Read <emsc...@rmi.net> writes:
>
> >
> > At this point, I think it's incumbent upon every one of us who has to
> > actually write code to read <1996102906...@gomez.fs.com.au>. A
> > beautiful example of some copro-grammers (not cow-orkers; they just
> > apparently write shite) LARTing themselves in a rather public fashion.
>
> can't find any easy way to do it..
http://www.dejanews.com/forms/mid.shtml
--
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m...@pobox.com |
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Eric The Read
> Shalon Wood <ds...@pele.cx> writes:
> > Ok, how the hell do you find a specific post on dejanews via msgid? I
> > can't find any easy way to do it..
>
> suggesting that feature. They said, "Yes, that's a good idea."
> Of course, nothing's been done.
*piku*
You can. It exists. Further more would be highly UI.
-=Eric
Zack Weinberg
<prescriptive grammarian>
Since this is not AFU, it should be permissible to use the dictionary
definition of `voracious'. The AFU definition should also be allowed,
since we have reader overlap and since it should be obvious from
context which meaning is intended.
</>
z "ex AFU lurker" w
Darrell Fuhriman
Ahh, so I've been told now. Of course, the place where that's
located is entirely non-obvious (i.e. not on the "power search"
page). And it's not available from the standard search interface.
Something like ~m (MID) would be consistent and useful. Which is
why it will probably never happen.
Darrell
Jasper Janssen
in <xkf3e1t...@valdemar.col.hp.com>:
>Darrell Fuhriman <dar...@grumblesmurf.net> writes:
>> Shalon Wood <ds...@pele.cx> writes:
>> > Ok, how the hell do you find a specific post on dejanews via msgid? I
>> > can't find any easy way to do it..
>>
>> You don't. I sent them an e-mail quite a while back (> 1yr)
>> suggesting that feature. They said, "Yes, that's a good idea."
>> Of course, nothing's been done.
>
Okay. I must be extremely tired, or luserish, or both, but could you
please point me in the right direction? I can't find anything about
this in the Dejanews FAQ, nor in the Dejanews archive..
I've run up against this before, and it is highly annoying.
Jasper
Jasper Janssen
wrote in <slrn7hrpbm....@mycroft.jacked-in.org>:
>It's a Sharp <mumble>-3800. There's a 3400 which apparently doesn't have some
>of the neato-keen features on it.
>
>It cost a respectable chunk of money, but my theory on stereos is the same as
>my theory on coffee and alcohol: if you're going to buy, buy *quality*. -- Joe
Sharp. Quality. No negation. Cognitive dissonance mode engaged.
You are in a maze of twisty little passages, and you hear someone
going slowly mad...
Jasper
Joe Thompson
cja...@fallschurch.esys.quux (Cael) wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:38:20 GMT, Joe Thompson vouchsafed:
>
> >When I opened the battery door, the remote's passport and complimentary bag
> >of peanuts fell out. (It's a big remote.)
>
> Nah, it's not big remote unless it has a pull-start and a gasoline
> generator.
"What this remote control needs is... MORE POWER!" -- Joe
Joe Thompson
(Jasper Janssen) wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:41:58 GMT, fbi...@orion-com.com (Joe Thompson)
> wrote in <slrn7hrpbm....@mycroft.jacked-in.org>:
> >It cost a respectable chunk of money, but my theory on stereos is the
same as
> >my theory on coffee and alcohol: if you're going to buy, buy *quality*.
>
> Sharp. Quality. No negation. Cognitive dissonance mode engaged.
I've never had trouble with the Sharp products I've owned. Sony tend to
be better but when they fail it's always *just* out of warranty. But if I
ever buy a "real" (read: ~1000 watt, component-based) stereo system, most
of it will probably be Sony components, with Klipsch speakers (unless
somebody'd like to campaign for their favorite brand). From my
understanding, most CD components are based on Sony specs anyway, given
how they invented CDs and all...
Sorta like, I hear there's really only 1 manufacturer of VHS read-units
(or summat) and every VCR manufacturer buys that unit from them. -- Joe
Joe Thompson
> On Wed, 21 Apr 1999 06:57:16 GMT, Mike Sphar <mi...@matches.com> wrote:
> > Did Ancient Astronauts named fbi...@orion-com.com (Joe Thompson) once
> > write the following? Read the book:
> > >Yes, apparently I can three-finger-salute my stereo.
> >
> > Let us know when they send you your first service pack.
> >
> > What's the brand/model of the system, just out of curiosity?
>
> It's a Sharp <mumble>-3800. There's a 3400 which apparently doesn't
have some
> of the neato-keen features on it.
Update (now that I'm home):
Sharp CD-C3800. -- Joe
Martin J. Laubach
This reminds me that recently one of the local supermarket
chains added payment by debit card and a preferred customer
programme. And as a reminder to the cashiers, put up signs
saying 'To check for preferred customer state, insert card in
reader and press CONTROL-"Bread & Pastries"'.
I want a "Bread & Pastries" key on my keyboard! I wanna wanna
wanna!
mjl
Bill Napier
>Shalon Wood <ds...@pele.cx> writes:
>
>> Ok, how the hell do you find a specific post on dejanews via msgid? I
>> can't find any easy way to do it..
>
>You don't. I sent them an e-mail quite a while back (> 1yr)
>suggesting that feature. They said, "Yes, that's a good idea."
>Of course, nothing's been done.
>
Looks like they took your idea and implemented it (but decided not to
advertise it).
http://www.dejanews.com/forms/mid.shtml
To automatically use that link to find articles that have expired off
your news server is left as an exercise left to the reader (I had it
half way hacked up, but never got around to integrating it with slrn).
Bill
Mike Sphar
the following? Read the book:
>costs more than their computer fix?
I must confess that I am not.[1] I may be an anomaly though. I'm also not
into role-playing, ren fairs, MUDding, cool cars, motorcycles, or any of a
number of things many of my associates are into.
Not that there's anything particularly wrong with any of those things, they
just aint my bag. I like some sci-fi/fantasy stuff, but not enough to go
to Cons or somesuch.
The only potentially common vices I can think of would be addictions to
Pratchett, Booze, and MST3K. (Not necessarily in that order.)
[1]Which is not to say I don't respect a really kick-ass sound system or a
nice car, I just don't care enough to invest my own time or money in such
things. I don't even invest much of my own money in computer-stuff for
that matter.
--
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If you're going through hell, keep going.
-- Winston Churchill
Mike Sphar
the following? Read the book:
>>stayed there) i had to smack my cow-orkers that sit in the office...
>>i attached the cdrw to one of the servers in the office so i could
>>get some of my mp3s off of it... and they burned themselves an
>>autobooting ghost cd. so when you boot of the cdrom... it ghosts
>>the machine.
>>
>>thank god for backups. stupid idiot @)#%*!@#)%*@#)$*%@)#%*!)#*%@!#%
>
>I trust that taught you not to remove unknown CDs and floopies from
>drives before rebooting.
I was thinking it taught him not to setup bootable CDs that do stuff
without at least one "Are you sure?" prompt first.
Rich Lafferty
>
> Out of mild curiousity, how many sysadmins are audiophiles? I would have
> imagined a higher than average proportion.
>
> costs more than their computer fix?
I *would* be, if I could afford it. Not a shabby low-end-of-hi-fi system
right now, but I could sure make improvements.
Been putting money aside for a Rega Plan{ar[1],et}---hadn't decided
which, even---when along come cheap sparcbooks[2].
*sigh* So many nifty toys.
-Rich
[1] Yay for vinyl!
[2] Yeah, that probably *would* be UI, so don't ask.
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mort+...@dtek.chalmers.se
>Out of mild curiousity, how many sysadmins are audiophiles? I would have
>imagined a higher than average proportion.
Personally, I'm reading a lot of audio magazines, trying to figure out
what to upgrade to. I have a ~10 year old Onkyo system, which cost
about $2000 at the time, and it's definately time to upgrade at least
some parts of it.
>Is this normal[1]? Anyone else out there want to confess a hifi habit that
>costs more than their computer fix?
Well, since I don't even own a computer myself[0]...yes.
//Christer, going for a speaker upgrade next
[0] I MIGHT own a C64 stuck up on the attic at home, but I'm not sure.
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Juhana Siren
> Out of mild curiousity, how many sysadmins are audiophiles? I would have
> imagined a higher than average proportion.
I'm somewhere in between. I don't put *that* much money in my audio
gear, but I do have some audiophile tendencies - as in only buying
separates and listening to them before buying. This is what I have:
* Infinity Reference I Mk. II speakers.
* An old Kenwood amp. [1]
* A brand new Kenwood CD player.
* A NEC turntable, pretty old, from parents.
* An 80's Pioneer midi stereo system with pretty decent speakers of
similar vintage. Acts as a repeater to the above.[2]
[1] This used to belong to my parents, then it broke down and they
abandoned it in favour of a flimsy Philips system (like a shelf
system, but full width and front panel trying to look like a bunch
of separates) with (to my ear) very crappy speakers placed in the
worst of all places: in a bookshelf.
[2] So that the main amp sends whatever it's playing to the repeater
system. VCR audio is an exception: it's connected to the Tape B
input, which has a dubbing function and doesn't cancel other input
selections. So, it's possible to watch a movie in the bedroom and
listen to a CD in the kitchen simultaneously.
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Juhana Siren
> Nah, it's not big remote unless it has a pull-start and a gasoline
> generator.
Pull-start? Put in pneumatic start and diesel electric drive and we're
talking about big.
Boff
21049921...@user-37ka4h5.dialup.mindspring.com>:
>Sorta like, I hear there's really only 1 manufacturer of VHS read-units
>(or summat) and every VCR manufacturer buys that unit from them. -- Joe
I was under the impression JVC had the patent[1] and license the
technology. Whoever had the Betamax patent wanted to keep it to themselves.
Guess who won.
Boff
[1] or whatever
Will England
>imagined a higher than average proportion.
*Raises hand*
Yup - tha'd be me. I've just got this jones for Quality. Elegant code,
working systems[5], smooth running cars, and accurate, clean, clear sounds
from my stereo.
>
>Personally I've got three "main" stereos (not counting portables). One
Only 2 systems in the house currently, a Dennon / Paradigm / whatever for
the living room and TV system, and an interesting mish-mash of parts in
the bedroom for serious listening. Old NAD amp, Luxman CD and MB Quart
speakers.[2] Few odd hundered CD's as well. Several odd albums, too.
Now, for fun, if not for the last bit of accuracy, there is the Klipsch
LaScalas a friend and I picked up a few weeks ago. Load into van, attach
cannibalized UPS [6], plug in 700 watt Carver amp, drive to open area
away from houses. Run 25 feet of RCA cable from the CD deck in my car to
the amp in his van, remove speakers and set 50-some odd feet apart.
Pop in a bit of Anne Lennox, step back 60 or 80 feet and surf
on a wall of sound.
They just aren't quite as loud[4] as the old Kustom Kabinets with the Altec
drivers we used to use, but they are a damn site cleaner.
Next project: rent 8 to 10 foot video screen, projector. Scrounge more
amps, surround decoder. Set up outdoor surround sound showing of all
the Pink Floyd videos.
>
>Is this normal[1]? Anyone else out there want to confess a hifi habit that
>costs more than their computer fix?
Lessee -- Computer == $600 of old parts.
iMac[1] == $400.[3]
total == $1000
All sound bits, pieces, and CD's:. . .I don't even want to think
about that.
Yup - I've got a serious music habit.
Note to self: must order headphones and portable from
http://headroom.headphones.com
Will
[1] Can't really be called a computer. I bought it as a toaster.
The heat coming off the back makes it a *nice* toaster. :-)
[2] Yes, I shop at pawn shops and classified ads almost exclusively.
[3] See [2]. Once in a while, you get rather lucky.
[4] Base sensitivity: Klipsch = 101db at 2.83v at 1 meter.
Kustoms = 106-108 at about 1 watt at 1 meter. (hand measured.)
Subjectively, they sound about twice as loud at the same power
level as the Klipsch, thus I'd guess they are about 8 to 10 db
louder.
[5] Yes, I know I'm in the wrong business for that.
[6] 12 VDC UPS with a dead battery. Hmmm -- If we just jumper this
thing into the 12VDC system of the van, we should get clean, filterd
120VAC power, eh what? Cool! It works. Now, just to get a cooler
for that pup so we don't catch the van on fire.
Peter da Silva
Juhana Siren <Juhana...@oulu.fi> wrote:
>cja...@fallschurch.esys.quux (Cael) writes:
>> Nah, it's not big remote unless it has a pull-start and a gasoline
>> generator.
>Pull-start? Put in pneumatic start and diesel electric drive and we're
>talking about big.
It's not big unless you can't start it up without an umbilicus from the
generator truck or launch tower.
It's not big unless it's comes with its own power plants and distribution
grid.
It's not big unless it dims the sun when it's activated.
There.
--
In hoc signo hack, Peter da Silva <pe...@baileynm.com>
`-_-' Ar rug tú barróg ar do mhactíre inniu?
'U` "Twenty-two points, plus triple-word-score, plus fifty points for
using all my letters. Game's over. I'm outta here."
Peter da Silva
Boff <boff...@pilat.com> wrote:
>This is something I'm curious about. Why the fuss? Are you just allergic to
>seeing a sig in the same color as the text, or is there a darker, more
>sinister reason?
The latter. Fnord.
Tim Wright
fbi...@orion-com.com (Joe Thompson) wrote:
>On Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:57:27 +0100, tim <twr...@nospam.llplimited.com> wrote:
>> --
>> I want to find a voracious, small-minded predator and name it after the IRS.
>
>Your sig delimiter is wrong.
*choke* You had me going there for a minute. One of the other groups I'm
in [1] has just done the whole "valid sigsep" discussion, and my
newsreader is normally very well behaved at this sort of thing...
>No, really, I actually wanted to comment on your sig. See, "voracious" has an
>entirely different meaning for AFUista, one which can in no way be associated
>with the IRS. -- Joe
Aha... maybe I should pull that quote from my "Random Signatures" file, then?
Cheers,
Tim.
[1] Actually, almost every group I'm in has just done the sigsep
discussion [2]. Must be something going around.
[2] Conclusion; OE can't post a valid sigsep since it strips off the last
space. People actually seemed surprised that an MS product might be
broken. *sigh*
--
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themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened.
Darrell Fuhriman
> I must confess that I am not.[1] I may be an anomaly though.
> I'm also not into role-playing, ren fairs, MUDding, cool cars,
> motorcycles, or any of a number of things many of my associates
> are into.
Me either... well, I like the stereo equipment, but I haven't
spent a lot of money on mine.. only about $900. I'm planning to
drop a ~2K at some point though. But, all the other stuff you
mentioned I could do without. I also hate spending money on
computer equipment... i spend too much time in front of the
fscking things anyway, I don't want to spend my money, too.
I much prefer buying books[1] and CDs[2], and my tastes in those
aren't typical of a sysadmin.
Darrell
[1] latest purchase: The Tale of Genji[3]
[2] latest purchase: "something about Airplanes" by Death Cab for
Cutie, but I'm probably going to buy the Massive Attack singles
collection this weekend.
[3] Currently reading "Bleak House" by Charles Dickens[4]
[4] see, i told you I was atypical -- I don't read much Sci-Fi
anymore.
Stephen Harris
: mi...@matches.com (Mike Sphar) writes:
: > I'm also not into role-playing, ren fairs, MUDding, cool cars,
: > motorcycles, or any of a number of things many of my associates
: Me either... well, I like the stereo equipment, but I haven't
Me 3.
: spent a lot of money on mine.. only about $900. I'm planning to
Yah, I've an old Technics (umm, 8 years?) series 320 with graphics and
5 play CD. Not bad sound, but not "good". Since I'm half mutt'n[1]
anyway, doesn't matter too much :-) The remote does a fair amount though.
One day I should read the manual and find out how to use the ramp-up alarm
clock thingy that's on it. Play my CDs as an alarm clock :-)
: I much prefer buying books[1] and CDs[2], and my tastes in those
: aren't typical of a sysadmin.
My books are very typical, but my CDs seem to be a lot more mellow than
most of what I've heard from other sysadmins. Hey, I *like* Abba, OK?
[1] Mutt'n - Mutt'n'Jeff - deaf
--
rgds
Stephen
James Richmond
>
>[Stuff about quality and Sharp removed]
>
>understanding, most CD components are based on Sony specs anyway, given
>how they invented CDs and all...
That's a viewpoint that I'm sure Philips would like to dispute, given that
they developed the technology/standard with Sony. CDs weren't really an
invention as much as an evolution of a standard. Video Disks already
existed and used the same spinning disk read of pitted foil read by a
laser scheme.
I also think James T. Russell[2] and Battelle[3] might dispute the
invention claim for either Philips or Sony, given that he actually
invented storing digitized analog data in an optical form.[1] He even
specifically mentions high fidelity audio in the patent.[4]
Jim
[1] See http://web.mit.edu/invent/www/inventorsR-Z/russell.html for a nice
summary, also see
http://www.patents.ibm.com/details?pn=US03795902__&language=en and
related patents.
[2] The Inventor listed on the patents
[3] The Assignee of the patents, Russell's employer (at least at the time)
[4] Along with video and "...and information storage and retrieval system
including a digital computer system, such as typically used for data
processing purposes..." Yup, CD-ROM as well.
Jasper Janssen
Thompson) wrote in
<fbi.gov-2104...@user-37ka4h5.dialup.mindspring.com>:
>I've never had trouble with the Sharp products I've owned. Sony tend to
>be better but when they fail it's always *just* out of warranty. But if I
My ObStereo hasn't failed in the 7 years I've had it. Nor has the same
model, same age one of my mother.
>ever buy a "real" (read: ~1000 watt, component-based) stereo system, most
If your speakers need 100 watts, something is seriously wrong.
My school "disco" sound system consisted of, per channel, one fscking
huge "extra"bass box (1 * .7 * 1.5 metre, with a 35 cm driver), and a
set of celestions with another such bass box, and a somewhat smaller
medium/treble box. It could blast (literally) the windows out of the
gym room, when turned fully on with the limiters deactivated. It was
~500W per channel.
Most _good_ speakers can deliver ear-shattering noise at 100W or less.
>of it will probably be Sony components, with Klipsch speakers (unless
>somebody'd like to campaign for their favorite brand). From my
>understanding, most CD components are based on Sony specs anyway, given
>how they invented CDs and all...
Does the name Philips ring a bell? Next you'll be saying Compaq
invented the IBM-compatible PC.
Jasper
Jasper Janssen
wrote in <371e5967$0$2...@nntp1.ba.best.com>:
>Joe Thompson <fbi...@orion-com.com> wrote:
>: It cost a respectable chunk of money, but my theory on stereos is the same
>: as my theory on coffee and alcohol: if you're going to buy, buy *quality*.
>: -- Joe
>
>Hooyah. That's why I dropped close to $1000 on the Sony 5 disc DVD/CD/VD[1]
Why not get one of the 200-disc CD-audio carrousels? Only half the
price, too.
Jasper
Darrell Fuhriman
> If your speakers need 100 watts, something is seriously wrong.
I think you mean 1000, and yes, absolutely.
> Most _good_ speakers can deliver ear-shattering noise at 100W or less.
I've got a set of Paradigm Phantoms[1] hooked to a Denon
receiver/amp that I can make people very uncomfortable with. It
only outputs 60W. And sounds pretty damn good all the way up.
Darrell
[1] these aren't the full size speakers they call the phantoms
now. I bought mine ~3.5 years ago, and they're only mid-sized.
har...@feeding.frenzy.com
> Why not get one of the 200-disc CD-audio carrousels? Only half
> the price, too.
My father upgraded to the 200? cd sony. We inherited his 100 cd
pioneer.
Sam
Jason Larke
>>>>> <pfaf...@pilot.msu.edu> said:
BP> So do you recommend older Harmon Kardon gear because it's
BP> cheaper, or is their older stuff better for some reason? --
I don't know what reasons he might have had, but based on my
experience with current equipment, it's mediocre. Got a good
price on mine through a consumer club, so I don't regret it, but
there's better stuff out there for what H/K wants to charge.
On the plus side, anything named HK has a certain viability to
me. :)
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"People change, and smile: but the agony abides."-T.S. Eliot, The Dry Salvages
Paul Mc Auley
| On Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:20:48 GMT, Cael <cja...@fallschurch.esys.quux> wrote:
| > On Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:16:54 -0400, Joe Thompson vouchsafed:
| > >The remote even makes sense. You can do things like play tapes from the
| > >remote.
| > Where's there room in the remote for the tape?
| When I opened the battery door, the remote's passport and complimentary bag
| of peanuts fell out. (It's a big remote.)
| One thing it does not have is Cool Glowy Buttons(tm). Jon will just have to
| suffer I suppose... -- Joe
It's a funny thing, but when I finally found a remote that had a receiving
LED (to learn codes) it had glowy buttons. I love it dearly as it means I
can now control all the IR kit with one zapper. This is particularly
useful as a certain junior party has since concealed the remote for the
Sony gear somewhere obscure...
Paul.
--
--- Paul Mc Auley <pmca...@iol.ie>
--
- VMS, n.: The world's foremost multi-user adventure game.
Eric Sorenson
: Now, for fun, if not for the last bit of accuracy, there is the Klipsch
: LaScalas a friend and I picked up a few weeks ago. Load into van, attach
: cannibalized UPS [6], plug in 700 watt Carver amp, drive to open area
: away from houses. Run 25 feet of RCA cable from the CD deck in my car to
: the amp in his van, remove speakers and set 50-some odd feet apart.
Heh, I have a pair of those in my living room. Power by Audio
Van Almsteen, bass by Bill Laswell. I love how they don't really
have a maximum wattage rating, just a minimum.
For immediate recovery at work: Sennheiser HD580 and Biosphere's
_Patashnik_ (or _Substrata_ or _Polar Sequences_ or _Microgravity_...)
--
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"Redemption is an actual event, and music is one of its voices" -R Fripp
Charles Cazabon
21049921...@user-37ka4h5.dialup.mindspring.com>:
Warning: personal opinions ahead. Reduce speed.
>I've never had trouble with the Sharp products I've owned. Sony tend to
>be better but when they fail it's always *just* out of warranty.
Sony tend to be reliable. Better? Better mechanically than many. I find
the audio quality of just about everything they make to be marginal (except
perhaps CD players). I do not like the sound of their preamps or amps.
>But if I
>ever buy a "real" (read: ~1000 watt, component-based) stereo system,
Nobody needs 1000 watts of true power in a home stereo. A good quality amp
capable of 100W/channel is more than adequate -- for high-end consumer
gear, I would suggest something like NAD or a ten-year-old Harmon Kardon
set. A 2x100W amp (optionally with with 3x50W or 2x50 & 1x100 channels for
center and rear speakers) and a 100-200W subwoofer will play sufficiently
loud to get you a noise violation ticket.
The big problem is that consumer-oriented gear is marketed based on spec
sheets, not based on audio fidelity. That Sony amp may be able to deliver
its full rated power into a big 8 ohm resistor at 0.05% THD, but hook a set
of speakers to it (with constantly varying R, L, and C values) and the
output of the amp goes all over the place -- the old "power cube" diagram
shows this type of effect quite readily.
Audiophile equipment (even low-end audiophile/high-end consumer stuff like
NAD) is significantly better in this respect.
>most
>of it will probably be Sony components, with Klipsch speakers (unless
>somebody'd like to campaign for their favorite brand).
Bose are always nice -- an old set of 10.2's or something. Klipsch are
alright as well.
Charles
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Kill -9 them all and let init(8) sort them out.
Jasper Janssen
<dar...@grumblesmurf.net> wrote in
<m2wvz4q...@artful.grumblesmurf.net>:
>spa...@janssen.dynip.com (Jasper Janssen) writes:
>
>> If your speakers need 100 watts, something is seriously wrong.
>
>I think you mean 1000, and yes, absolutely.
Doh!
>I've got a set of Paradigm Phantoms[1] hooked to a Denon
>receiver/amp that I can make people very uncomfortable with. It
>only outputs 60W. And sounds pretty damn good all the way up.
Indeed. My system has only very small and low quality speakers - three
way, 15 cm bass drivers, you know the type, and even those can go
quite nicely "fill the _street_ with sound" at 60W.
Jasper
Peter da Silva
Charles Cazabon <c_ca...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>All that unnecessary electronics in the signal path introduces audio
>artifacts which can be heard, but not measured easily. Coming up with a
>reasonable way of benchmarking audio gear is basically impossible -- which
>is why it is such a [black art | marketing bullshit tactic].
And why all sound cards since the GUS suck?
void
wrote:
>
>People actually seemed surprised that an MS product might be
>broken. *sigh*
>
>--
>Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick
>themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened.
Hmm.
--
Ben
"You have your mind on computers, it seems."
Mike Sphar
the following? Read the book:
>greatest computerstuff, unless you're heavily into the latest and
>greatest first person shootemup.
Exactly. Besides, there's always hand-me-down equipment at work I can use.
>> --
>
>PS: Fix your sig delimiter.
Dammit, I was about to accuse you of being high but then I double-checked
and finally noticed the stupid space was missing. Should be fixed now
though. How embarrassing. I shall punish myself by drinking some of this
Cuvee Rare cognac I recently acquired for a measly $20. Then I'll throw
myself in the briar patch.
--
Mike Sphar http://mikey.sanjoseweb.com mi...@matches.com
Pets are always a great help in times of stress. And in times of
starvation too, o'course. -- Terry Pratchett, "Small Gods"
Mike Sphar
following? Read the book:
>>PS: Fix your sig delimiter.
>
>seeing a sig in the same color as the text, or is there a darker, more
>sinister reason?
Well, I'll presume there's really a dark sinister reason, but at the very
least if his newsreader is like mine it will automatically leave the
signature out of the quoted text in a reply or followup. (Though Agent
actually seems to figure it out even without the space.) So it saves some
editing if nothing else.
Kirrily 'Skud' Robert
>
>Hmm indeed. Is there an attribution for that quote? Ifn[0] so, I'll
>stick it in my sigmonster's feeding tray.
>
>[0] This variant seems to work quite nicely as the spoken equivalent
> of written "Iff", ie if and only if. Usually it's figured from
> context *anyway*, so people don't tend to notice, except
> subconsciously. It's nice.
We've been through this before, and I still don't agree. "Ifn"
looks/sounds to me like the sort of thing an inbred high-school-dropout
slow-talking checkout chick in Outer Buttfuck says, often in the same
sentence as "arks" (instead of "ask") and "ta" (for "thankyou").
K.
--
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Blood is thicker than water - and much tastier.
Rich Lafferty
two people in one post *after* writing it, and it's late, and I
don't feel like fixing it. Also, do note collectors-edition
grep bait.]
Jasper Janssen <spa...@janssen.dynip.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:52:12 -0400, fbi...@orion-com.com (Joe
> Thompson) wrote in
> <fbi.gov-2104...@user-37ka4h5.dialup.mindspring.com>:
>
> >ever buy a "real" (read: ~1000 watt, component-based) stereo system, most
>
> If your speakers need 100 watts, something is seriously wrong.
Amen to that.
The most beautiful sound I have ever heard was a Bach 'cello concerto
through a single-ended triode tube amp of a whole three watts. Single
300B.
Close to this was listening to Mahler 4 at concert levels, with a
pair of monoblocks whose make I can't recall -- which were putting
out 8W RMS.
> Most _good_ speakers can deliver ear-shattering noise at 100W or less.
If your speakers need 100W RMS, then you've got incredibly inefficient
speakers. 100W is something of a magic number in audio, sort of
a scsi-goat equivalent. Even with relatively inefficient speakers --
I'm currently running a cheap-ish system, being low on cash, with
a pair of Paradigms -- I seldom need to use more than 20W or so of
my 80.
> >of it will probably be Sony components, with Klipsch speakers (unless
> >somebody'd like to campaign for their favorite brand).
Ah, you've got incredibly inefficient speakers. Or will. :-)
For what you're probably looking at (since you're considering Sony,
but see below), Klipsch will just be a name. It takes a lot of size,
power, and money to drive horns; their smaller speakers tend to be
home versions of PA equipment. Stick with conventional speakers --
B&W come to mind as something I tend to recommend to people moving
into hi-fi (if you're not just moving there now, apologies, still,
check out B&W). Mind you, the top-of-the-line, folded-horn Klipsch
monsters are impressive, but, well, if I had that much to spend on
speakers, I wouldn't buy Klipsch then either. (My next set will
probably be electrostatic, though, so I'm probably not one to talk!)
As for CD players -- if you're looking to drop around $700 to a grand,
get thee to a decent hi-fi shop and audition the Rega Planet. Divine.
$795 list, and you should be able to either talk them down or get them
to throw in decent interconnects. Its D/A converter is dreamy, but
when you find yourself with money in your pocket, the Planet will make
a great transport to go with a new standalone converter (or digital
preamp, even). If you want something more conventional -- top-load
turns a lot of people off, for some reason, although Rega's reminds me
of the door of an expensive sports car -- an audiophile friend of mine
has been insisting I track down a Denon DCD-1560AR to audition, having
just replaced his own $200 separates with this $1000 integrated. I
haven't heard it, though. But you've got to audition anyhow. Make
sure you audition either through speakers you're going to buy, or
through conventional ones in your approximate price range (although
A/B'ing components through $30k speakers *as well* can
Sony's sort of the top end of mid-fi, with a few particular components
that are exceptions. It's really worth the trouble to go to a good
hi-fi shop, that you're comfortable in, with friendly and
knowledgeable staff, that'll let you sit long, audition much, and will
encourage you to audition at home as well. It's the sort of
professional relationship that will last decades, once the audio bug
bites.
With such discriminating tastes present in here, I'd hate to think
that we're developing audio lus^H^H^Hpopulists. :-)
-Rich
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Concordia University | -- Lucius Accius (170-90 BC).
ri...@vax2.concordia.ca -----------------------------------------[McQ]--
Rich Lafferty
>
> Bose are always nice -- an old set of 10.2's or something. Klipsch are
> alright as well.
Hey, Bose suc@#$# @#NO CARRIER
:-)
Rich Lafferty
Jason Larke <jla...@ans.net> wrote:
>
> On the plus side, anything named HK has a certain viability to
> me. :)
Does that include the new HK/Microsoft remote control[1]?
-Rich
[1] Yup, 'strue.
Iain Chalmers
<-snip->
> > >ever buy a "real" (read: ~1000 watt, component-based) stereo system, most
> >
> > If your speakers need 100 watts, something is seriously wrong.
>
> Amen to that.
>
> The most beautiful sound I have ever heard was a Bach 'cello concerto
> through a single-ended triode tube amp of a whole three watts. Single
> 300B.
>
> Close to this was listening to Mahler 4 at concert levels, with a
> pair of monoblocks whose make I can't recall -- which were putting
> out 8W RMS.
this is true, *BUT*...
"Way more headroom that your ever going to need"(tm) is also a good thing.
I have a pair of Boston Acoustic A60's which I normally run off my NAD
2100 (100w/channel).
I have driven them from 2000w *EACH* (a pair of Crest Audio PA Amps in
bridged mono).
They sounded very different. Much tighter bottom end.
I think the damping factor on the big amps is the main difference. An amp
thats built to happily run a 4ohm 15inch sub in a bandpass enclosure at
1000w continuous would clearly make the little 8 inch bass driver in my
speakers do *EXACTLY* what the stylus tells it to...
I'd also suspect the slew rates on the output devices on a big amp running
at 0.5% of rated capacity would be much better than a little amp running
at 10% of rated capacity - this would give high-frequency and sharp
transients better definition (the 1812 cannons, or a really loud snare
drum for example)
Except for _really_ high quality low powered gear (typical of British HiFi
gear), I think most people would be better off running an OK 100w amp at 5
watts than a 10 watt amp at 5 watts...
cheers
Iain
Sheldon T. Hall
Laubach) wrote:
> I want a "Bread & Pastries" key on my keyboard! I wanna wanna
>wanna!
At an electronics surplus and junk shop inb Doraville, .ga.us, I once
encountered a barrel of keytops. I picked up some of the more interesting,
resulting in this keyboard's having keys that say "coin", "time", "dial
rate", and "word".
When I put 'em on, I thought it was a great set of keys for a consultant who
was writing book chapters on serial communications. Which I was, then.
-Shel
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Content may have settled during shipment.
Peter da Silva
Kirrily 'Skud' Robert <skud+...@netizen.com.au> wrote:
>We've been through this before, and I still don't agree. "Ifn"
>looks/sounds to me like the sort of thing an inbred high-school-dropout
>slow-talking checkout chick in Outer Buttfuck says, often in the same
>sentence as "arks" (instead of "ask") and "ta" (for "thankyou").
"ta" for "thank you" always makes me think of an elderly Londoner with
a ruddy face and broad, friendly grin.
Boff
<3725ac90...@news.casema.net>:
>If your speakers need 100 watts, something is seriously wrong.
The Gathering[1] a few years back. They decided to set up a sound stage for
bard entertainment/competitions, and someone[2] went overkill. Upon adding
up the totals for the multiple generators, the multiple amps and the
multiple multiple speakers, we calculated the maximum output to be 30kw.
Yeah. 30,000 watts.
Ex-sound tech in question hired out equipment to rock bands and stadiums.
After the event when the punters had gone home, the staff turned the volume
up a little for the after-event party.[3] The nearest village (3 miles
away) could identify the songs being played.
Boff
[1] Annual UK LARP of just over 3000 people in a private estate in the
middle of nowhere
[2] We know who, and he was LARTed for it afterwards. By just about
everybody. Even those who didn't know they were LARTing
[3] It's a four day event with a week setup. We needed a party.
[4] Dunno which was more impressive - that they could hear it, or that they
could identify the songs a heavy metal based staff group preferred to
listen to at volume
Joe Thompson
> Darker, more sinister reason? Me? Surely not. Would I have secret
> and dark sinister motives for beating people into doing sigthings
> properly?
"Come now,
my child,
if we were planning
to harm you, do you think
we'd be lurking here
beside the path
in the very dark-
est part of
the forest?"
-- Kenneth Patchen, _But Even So_
Tanuki the Raccoon-dog
<7670...@compuserve.com> said
>On 21 Apr 1999 14:27:48 GMT, m...@nospam.office.emsi.priv.at (Martin J.
>Laubach) wrote:
>> I want a "Bread & Pastries" key on my keyboard! I wanna wanna
>>wanna!
>
>At an electronics surplus and junk shop inb Doraville, .ga.us, I once
>encountered a barrel of keytops. I picked up some of the more interesting,
>resulting in this keyboard's having keys that say "coin", "time", "dial
>rate", and "word".
Reminds me of the communications-receiver[1] I rebuilt a while
back: lacking the proper knobs, I turned down some old organ-
stops to fit the spindles. Looked quite odd having the RF gain
control engraved "Vox Humana"...
[1]RACAL RA-117L with ISB adapter. Tubes.... i need my tubes...
--
!Raised Tails! -:Tanuki:-
http://www.canismajor.demon.co.uk/index.htm
"My name is 1nigo M0nt0y@. You misspelled my father. Prepare to vi"
Jasper Janssen
<8DAF8F9AEbof...@news.erols.com>:
>Agree with Joe on the 'quality' comment - if it doesn't send shivers down
>your spine when you listen to it, why waste a single cent on it?
>
>It can get expensive, though. This system was bought as a 'best I can
>afford'[3] stop-gap until I can /really/ afford a B&O setup. Drool. Like
>that's gonna happen anytime soon.
For my money, B&O just looks good. Its sound definitely isn't the best
available at that price. Least, not the B&O systems we get _here_.
Jasper
Boff
>For my money, B&O just looks good. Its sound definitely isn't the best
>available at that price. Least, not the B&O systems we get _here_.
This will probably spark a religious-style war, but what /is/ the best for
sound quality?
For CD players, Denon keeps intruding into my thoughts for some reason.
Boff
Tanuki the Raccoon-dog
<boff...@pilat.com> said
>Jasper Janssen <spa...@janssen.dynip.com> muttered something in
><3736aa10...@news.casema.net>:
>>For my money, B&O just looks good. Its sound definitely isn't the best
>>available at that price. Least, not the B&O systems we get _here_.
IMHO B&O is all just appearance...
>This will probably spark a religious-style war, but what /is/ the best for
>sound quality?
>
>For CD players, Denon keeps intruding into my thoughts for some reason.
The basic digital bit of a CD player is pretty boring really;
the fun starts in the D/A converter... [hence digital outputs
on 'quality' CD players so you can outboard the D/A of your choice]
OTOH of course when it comes down to speakers, IMHO the quartet
of Quad electrostatics i had some years back took a *lot* of
beating - i wish i hadn't sold them. Driven by a homebrew
"Ultra-linear" amplifier [push-pull 6L6's] it was rather
listenable-to, even though the only "quality" audio-source i
had access to in those days was a Revox tape-deck that played
open-reel tapes at 15 inches/second. You don't get very much
sound on a reel at 15IPS...
--
!Raised Tails! -:Tanuki:-
http://www.canismajor.demon.co.uk/index.htm
"Be Happy. Be root"
Brian Kantor
A system which is very highly component (tuner separate from preamp
separate from power amp separate from surround-sound processor...)
allows the owner to upgrade a piece at a time as new technology
and products come on the market - or conversely, keep an older item in
service when there's nothing better to replace it.
Periodic maintenance helps - it pays to replace electrolytic capacitors
and such as they age. For example, the preamp that feeds the sound card
in my computer is a Dynaco PAT-4 (bought in 1974), which has had its
capacitors replaced with recent-vintage low-inductance tantalums. For what
I use it (dubbing rare old vinyl to CD so I can listen to it without
risking the original recordings), this is an excellent preamp despite its
age. My power amp (a DH500) is about due for re-capping - it's about
a decade old now.
- Brian
Anyone have a service manual for a Technics SL-7 turntable?
(no, it's ok to ask, fixing the stereo IS recovery from SysAdmining.)
Jason Larke
>>>>> Lafferty) said:
>> On the plus side, anything named HK has a certain viability
>> to me. :)
RL> Does that include the new HK/Microsoft remote control[1]?
I forgot that we aren't all gun nuts.
HK to me == Heckler & Koch, manufacturers of fine firearms.
Which can find no better employment than against the works of the
Satan from Seattle...
Charles Cazabon
<8DB192C92bof...@news.erols.com>:
>Jasper Janssen <spa...@janssen.dynip.com> muttered something in
><3736aa10...@news.casema.net>:
>
>>For my money, B&O just looks good. Its sound definitely isn't the best
>>available at that price. Least, not the B&O systems we get _here_.
>This will probably spark a religious-style war, but what /is/ the best for
>sound quality?
No such beast. For any given component, quality is a factor of:
1) Listener's ear/preferences.
2) Interaction with other components.
3) Environment.
4) Room dimensions.
5) Type of music.
Rule is: if it sounds best _to_you_ (over a period of time) it's the best
_for_you_.
Charles Cazabon
<7fqkuv$g9b$1...@karoshi.ucsd.edu>:
>Periodic maintenance helps - it pays to replace electrolytic capacitors
>and such as they age.
>My power amp (a DH500) is about due for re-capping - it's about
>a decade old now.
You can also recondition electrolytics [0], although if they get constant
use they shouldn't get too badly out of shape. The worst enemy of an
electrolytic cap (other than polarity inversion) is shelf time.
Charles
[0] Typically with a variac, rectifier, and some caps & inductors.
Substitute variable DC supply for low-voltage caps.
Charles Cazabon
>Charles Cazabon <c_ca...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>All that unnecessary electronics in the signal path introduces audio
>>artifacts which can be heard, but not measured easily. Coming up with
>>a reasonable way of benchmarking audio gear is basically impossible --
>>which is why it is such a [black art | marketing bullshit tactic].
>And why all sound cards since the GUS suck?
Yes, that would be it. Although to be fair, even the GUS doesn't really
cut it when compared to audiophile-quality stereo equipment. But it's
close.
To get audiophile-quality sound out of a PC today, you'd need a card that
supported SPDIF-out or something -- available on the <UI deleted>. Pipe
that to a decent external DAC -- some Dolby decoders and surround-type
receivers have them.
A metal case full of electronic components constantly switching current
on and off is just not a good environment for generating a clean analog
waveform. Really can't be done.
Charles
C. A. Weagle
> After the event when the punters had gone home, the staff turned the volume
> up a little for the after-event party.[3] The nearest village (3 miles
> away) could identify the songs being played.
So there's this 4H camp hereabouts called Camp Tanglewood (no, not
_that_ Tanglewood). They put on this annual concert called
TanglewoodStock. [1] So, of course, I got involved.
Keep in mind this is a small summer camp of about 120 kids/week.
Last year's performances were heard [2] by a group camping out over five
miles away. Three miles through woods (I will admit that the last two
were across a pond). We never got the calculators out, though.
This year's will have spotlights. On towers. [3]
[1] I Am Not Making This Up (tm)
[2] And sung along to...
[3] Inc. ObBatGobo
--
Christian A. Weagle
We pray for one last landing on the globe that gave us birth; let us
rest our eyes on fleecy skies and the cool, green hills of Earth.
John Burnham
Juhana...@oulu.fi "Juhana Siren" writes:
> twr...@nospam.llplimited.com (tim) writes:
>
> > Out of mild curiousity, how many sysadmins are audiophiles? I would have
> > imagined a higher than average proportion.
>
> I'm somewhere in between. I don't put *that* much money in my audio
> gear, but I do have some audiophile tendencies - as in only buying
> separates and listening to them before buying. This is what I have:
<Snip>
Yeah, that sounds like me. I'd love to spend more money on my stereo
system, but I've got too many other expensive pastimes (got my bank
statement last night - ouch).
My current set up consists of
Wharfedale amp, Dual turntable (yes, I have vinyl - quite a lot of it),
two Aiwa tape decks, Nakamichi 7 CD player and a set of nice speakers
(can't remember the brand). Then there's the Nicam stereo vcr plugged
into it (for when I want some bass in the vids I'm watching). I've also
been known to feed my guitar (via a nice Zoom effects box) and even my
Playstation through the stereo. My stereo is one of the first things that
gets set up when I move house. I can't stand not having music available.
But I'm not a serious audiophile - I have friends whose speakers cost
more than my entire setup.
When I changed my home insurance company, I specified my CDs as a high
risk item. The woman on the other end of the phone asked me how many I
had. I told her, then there was a shocked silence. Personally, I didn't
think it was a lot (around 300 or so). We then repeated this with my
LP collection, video collection, book collection and comic collection.
Heh, and I wonder why I have no money.
J.
--
John Burnham jo...@jaka.demon.co.uk
Dave's Tip: Never snore TOO DAMN LOUD in the same room as an aggressive
lesbian.
Rich Lafferty
> On 21 Apr 1999 18:07:44 GMT, Boff <boff...@pilat.com> wrote in
> <8DAF8F9AEbof...@news.erols.com>:
> >
> >afford'[3] stop-gap until I can /really/ afford a B&O setup. Drool. Like
> >that's gonna happen anytime soon.
>
> available at that price. Least, not the B&O systems we get _here_.
Yup. B&O is art that happens to play music decently. Not bad sound,
but don't think that because you're paying audiophile prices, you're
getting audiophile electronics. In fact, some of their designs should
*degrade* sound.
OTOH, they don't seem to make a big secret of sacrificing function for
form. High-quality and well-made, for sure, just not necessarily made
with the design goal of "perfect sound[1][3]".
-r.
[1] STR: "Perfect sound forever!". Please STR, I feel old today[2].
[2] Remind me to expand on this after the R is S'd. I don't want to
give it away.
[3] You know what I mean.
Rich Lafferty
> Jasper Janssen <spa...@janssen.dynip.com> muttered something in
> <3736aa10...@news.casema.net>:
>
> >available at that price. Least, not the B&O systems we get _here_.
>
Been to rec.audio.opinion lately? :-)
> but what /is/ the best for sound quality?
It's not so much a case of "best" -- it gets to the point where there
are a handful of "bests", all offering different versions of "best".
It's much easier to identify what *isn't* best; B&O falls in that
category because they tend to prioritize form over function.
Similarly, one might have a debate over Pentium II vs G3-based
servers, but even though the iMac is up there in *parts*, it wouldn't
come up in the conversation.
> For CD players, Denon keeps intruding into my thoughts for some reason.
Denon is very well made for the money. They don't approach the high
end, though. The 1650AR that I recommended yesterday is only around $1000.
They do *very* well in terms of providing alternatives to the mass
produced mid-fi stuff, though; their DCM-360 leaves something to be
desired compared to audiophile machines, but it's one hell of a player
for $325. Adcom, Rotel and NAD are other companies which do well in this
sort of alternative-to-mid-fi market.
If I could have some millionaire buy me something on which to play
CDs, it wouldn't be an integrated player, although Linn's Sondek CD12
is pretty impressive. I'd probably grab a Mark Levinson DAC (sorry, no
model number, my audio store doesn't carry ML, *pout*) and either an
ML or Wadia transport (although, if I went with Wadia, I'd consider
their DAC, too.) The Linn's around fifteen grand, though, as are the
individual components of the latter. Diminishing returns, yes, but
it *is* a millionaire buying it for me. :-)
I still stand behind my recommendation of the $795 Rega Planet,
though, which I still think is Ghod's gift to audiophiles on average
budgets, and which I'd take over some $2000 players. Can't go wrong
with it.
-r.
les...@clio.rice.edu
: In alt.sysadmin.recovery, on 23 Apr 1999 01:48:52 GMT
: void <fl...@interport.net> wrote:
: > On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 16:44:07 +0100, Tim Wright
: > <twr...@nospam.llplimited.com>
: > wrote:
: > >--
: > >themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened.
: > Hmm.
: Hmm indeed. Is there an attribution for that quote? Ifn[0] so, I'll
: stick it in my sigmonster's feeding tray.
Sir Winston Churchill
C. A. Weagle
> It's not big unless you can't start it up without an umbilicus from the
> generator truck or launch tower.
Well, how about generator _trailer_ at least. There's this sweet 30kw
model for rent around here that I want for the next concert I tech...
(any genny with a 45hp engine gets my respect). The power output panel
of this thing...I'm plotting how many dimmers I can load onto 125A 240V.
(And which gauge cable I'll need to run them off [1]). TanglewoodStock
is gonna be a helluva show...
[1] liquid-cooled cables, natch...
J. Eric Townsend
I spent a year working with serious audio geeks. They had all sorts
of really high-end audio gear.
I discovered that high-end audio gear sucks. You really, really don't
want a set of flat-response speakers that accurately reproduce the
source sound. Trust me on this one.
"What's that annoying high end static sound?"
"Probably background noise from a electrical equipment when they made
the original digital recording."
"It sounds like the cymbals are fucked up."
"Probably why they didn't notice it, they had cheap speakers."
"Oh. Well, you'd never hear that on my 5 year old Bose bookshelf
speakers, either"
--
J. Eric Townsend -- http://www.spies.com/jet
looking for: Art of Noise and Kraftwerk videos, state generated
propaganda, my copy of _The Big U_, Heckler & Koch police/military ads.
Peter van Hooft
>In article <378b4c0f....@news.casema.net>, spa...@janssen.dynip.com
>(Jasper Janssen) wrote:
>> On Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:41:58 GMT, fbi...@orion-com.com (Joe Thompson)
>> wrote in <slrn7hrpbm....@mycroft.jacked-in.org>:
>> >It cost a respectable chunk of money, but my theory on stereos is the
>same as
>> >my theory on coffee and alcohol: if you're going to buy, buy *quality*.
>>
>> Sharp. Quality. No negation. Cognitive dissonance mode engaged.
>I've never had trouble with the Sharp products I've owned. Sony tend to
>be better but when they fail it's always *just* out of warranty. But if I
>ever buy a "real" (read: ~1000 watt, component-based) stereo system, most
>of it will probably be Sony components, with Klipsch speakers (unless
>somebody'd like to campaign for their favorite brand). From my
Okay, try the EgglestonWorks Ivy. They have 23 drive units, weigh 790lb
a piece and cost UKP 80k per pair.
And you aren't a _real_ audiophile if you don't have speaker cables
costing more per meter than other peoples' whole stereo sets.
Oh, and _real_ audiophiles don't like digital audio either. Not one bit.
>understanding, most CD components are based on Sony specs anyway, given
>how they invented CDs and all...
I think your understanding is wrong in at least two aspects.
>Sorta like, I hear there's really only 1 manufacturer of VHS read-units
>(or summat) and every VCR manufacturer buys that unit from them. -- Joe
And that isn't true either.
peter
Jasper Janssen
<Tanuki@canis-^Hmajor.da^Hemon.co.uk> wrote in
<mOF3IEAe...@canismajor.demon.co.uk>:
>The basic digital bit of a CD player is pretty boring really;
>the fun starts in the D/A converter... [hence digital outputs
>on 'quality' CD players so you can outboard the D/A of your choice]
Marantz CD-63A is pretty good, I'm told...
>OTOH of course when it comes down to speakers, IMHO the quartet
>of Quad electrostatics i had some years back took a *lot* of
_four_ Quads? Oh man. Original 70s ones? My dad used to have a pair of
those - bought in, like, 77 second hand for ~$500 (bought together
with Quad pre and power amps), which he sold for ~$500 when he got
others in 87 or so. They sounded Pretty Good. The Final 1.2 [0]
electrostats he has now are somewhat better[1], though.
>You don't get very much sound on a reel at 15IPS...
No? ISTR tapes were on the order of a mile, or 4 hours per side at the
regular 1/4 speed - so 15 IPS would give you 1 hour per side on the
large reels. That's longer than cassettes.
Jasper "Not an audiophile, but I live with one" Janssen
[0] Yes, these have version numbers. We have Serial No 3 or so, of the
worlds' supply of all versions[2]
[1] If a hell of a lot more expensive[3]
[2] They were upgraded from 1.0 to 1.2.
[3] ~$10k per pair.[4]
[4] That's not counting the rather large transient spikes it pulls out
of your amp, 500W minimum rating is suddenly no luxury.[5]
[5] Audiophile 500W amp. Nuff said.
Jasper Janssen
wrote in <7fp84c$khv$1...@newsflash.concordia.ca>:
>Jasper Janssen <spa...@janssen.dynip.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:52:12 -0400, fbi...@orion-com.com (Joe
>> Thompson) wrote in
>> <fbi.gov-2104...@user-37ka4h5.dialup.mindspring.com>:
>>
>> >ever buy a "real" (read: ~1000 watt, component-based) stereo system, most
>>
>> If your speakers need 100 watts, something is seriously wrong.
I goofed. I meant to say 1000, like the original poster.
>> Most _good_ speakers can deliver ear-shattering noise at 100W or less.
>
>If your speakers need 100W RMS, then you've got incredibly inefficient
True. The 100W comes, in this case, from my thinking of a nice number,
quadrupling it, then rounding up to the nearest power of 10.
>speakers. 100W is something of a magic number in audio, sort of
>a scsi-goat equivalent. Even with relatively inefficient speakers --
>I'm currently running a cheap-ish system, being low on cash, with
>a pair of Paradigms -- I seldom need to use more than 20W or so of
>my 80.
I'm running a downright _cheap_, period, everything integrated system.
My speakers are incredibly ineffient. Sony, came with a $600 system,
100W rated powerhandling. I have had it open beyond half my 60W amp
three times, I think: When there was a street festival, and I pointed
them outside. I wouldn't want to go deaf instantly, so I don't do that
when they're pointing at my ears.
>Sony's sort of the top end of mid-fi, with a few particular components
>that are exceptions. It's really worth the trouble to go to a good
>hi-fi shop, that you're comfortable in, with friendly and
>knowledgeable staff, that'll let you sit long, audition much, and will
>encourage you to audition at home as well. It's the sort of
>professional relationship that will last decades, once the audio bug
>bites.
Indeed. My father must have dropped at least $30k total, over the past
20 or 30 years, at his shop. Significant percentages of total income
and all.
Jasper
Jasper Janssen
wrote in <371fc647$0$2...@nntp1.ba.best.com>:
>Jasper Janssen <spa...@janssen.dynip.com> wrote:
>: Why not get one of the 200-disc CD-audio carrousels? Only half the price,
>: too.
>
>Because the 200 disc jukebox doesn't do DVD. :)
So? I mean, if you want DVD, there's cheaper things than $1000, AFAIK,
and it's not like 5 disc changer is gonna do anything but make it more
strenuous to change the CD's :)
Jasper
void
hear that these things are amazing for their price range. Further
disclaimer: I am vaguely acquainted with the fellow who makes them.
--
Ben
"You have your mind on computers, it seems."
bert hubert
>
>True. The 100W comes, in this case, from my thinking of a nice number,
>quadrupling it, then rounding up to the nearest power of 10.
If you measure actual output, 15W is a *lot* of noise. Most speakers have an
efficiency of below 1% so you don't actually notice this. An then there is
the issue of what '100W' is. Sustained? Peak? Effective?
I get really pissed off when people tell me they have 300W speakers attached
to their screen. "PMPO" they call it. Peak Maximum Power Output. For like,
1ms.
regards,
bert 'really wanting to get a 5W tube amplifier once' hubert
--
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of Technology, |
Department of Physics | Inspice et cautus eris - D11T'95
Ralph Wade Phillips
bert hubert <a...@vvtp.tn.tudelft.nl> wrote in message
news:slrn7i4lr...@hubert.ds9a.tudelft.nl...
<snippity>
>
> I get really pissed off when people tell me they have 300W speakers
attached
> to their screen. "PMPO" they call it. Peak Maximum Power Output. For like,
> 1ms.
>
> regards,
> bert 'really wanting to get a 5W tube amplifier once' hubert
>
Especially when said speakers are run off of a wall wart rated
at 6V 500ma ...
RwP
Martin J. Laubach
| rate", and "word".
|
| was writing book chapters on serial communications. Which I was, then.
I take it then, that had you picked up "Vegetables", "Bread", "Meat"
and "Flour" you would have ended up writing a recipe book?
mjl
Charles Cazabon
<slrn7i4lr...@hubert.ds9a.tudelft.nl>:
>I get really pissed off when people tell me they have 300W speakers
>attached to their screen. "PMPO" they call it. Peak Maximum Power Output.
>For like, 1ms.
Also, PMPO refers to calulating power my multiplying the maximum p-p
voltage by maximum peak current. A set of speakers which are rated at a
total of 5W RMS might have a PMPO rating of 100W or more.
It is illegal in most parts of .ca and .us (and possibly others) to sell
audio equipment based on PMPO ratings -- it used to be commonplace years
ago, when every manufacturer invented their own way of measuring things so
as to come up with the biggest numbers [1]. The shitty little speakers
that are sold in computer stores get around this by saying they are
computer equipment, not stereo equipment.
Charles
[1] The computer industry is in this phase now it seems. What next,
government-mandated CPU benchmarks?
Tanuki the Raccoon-dog
<spa...@janssen.dynip.com> said
>On Fri, 23 Apr 1999 19:55:26 +0100, Tanuki the Raccoon-dog
><Tanuki@canis-^Hmajor.da^Hemon.co.uk> wrote in
>>of Quad electrostatics i had some years back took a *lot* of
>
>_four_ Quads? Oh man. Original 70s ones? My dad used to have a pair of
>those - bought in, like, 77 second hand for ~$500 (bought together
>with Quad pre and power amps), which he sold for ~$500 when he got
>others in 87 or so.
I had homebrew amps (push-pull 6L6's). For the Quads i made up
a rather elegant polished wood frame, so i could mount 2 panels
above each other; the gentle curve of the frame sides took me
*hours* to get right, planing away at a piece of 6x2 timber
until it was no thicker than 2 inches anywhere...
Eventually i sold the lot, together with some medium-fi camera
gear (OM1 bodies, some ring-flashes etc) and used the money to
buy a house.
Sounded really good though! [I'm a high-frequency-response freak]
>>You don't get very much sound on a reel at 15IPS...
>
>No? ISTR tapes were on the order of a mile, or 4 hours per side at the
>regular 1/4 speed - so 15 IPS would give you 1 hour per side on the
>large reels. That's longer than cassettes.
Back in those days, tape was thicker. And more expensive. Longest
reel I ever owned was, ISTR, 1200 feet. Let's say 15 minutes...
--
!Raised Tails! -:Tanuki:-
http://www.canismajor.demon.co.uk/index.html
"God is my PalmPilot"
bert hubert
>Also, PMPO refers to calulating power my multiplying the maximum p-p
>voltage by maximum peak current. A set of speakers which are rated at a
>total of 5W RMS might have a PMPO rating of 100W or more.
bah. This sucks. My father was installed as a member of local government and
they forced a PC on him [1], which included Harman Kardon speakers which
clearly state themselves to produce 15W. Wonderful.
regards,
bert hubert.
[1] He already has three for three other hats he's wearing. So he didn't
want an extra one. The government people explained that they couldn't
maintain non-standard systems. We proposed that they deliver a working dual
boot installation so they could service their disk, and my father could go
on using his own disk. This was rejected. So he now has 4 pcs.
Will England
>
>[1] STR: "Perfect sound forever!". Please STR, I feel old today[2].
Advertisments for the original CD's.
I want my transcript of the recent conference where Sony and Phillips reps
admitted that 16/48 may just suck rocks, unless really well done.
Will
--
--
Jan: Our monitors go 'doink' when they change HSCAN freq. Is this normal?
jguthrie: Do they also go "Narf!" and say things like "I think so, Brain, but
where are we going to find leather pants in our size?"
wi...@mylanders.com
Joe Thompson
Raccoon-dog <Tanuki@canis-^Hmajor.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> For the Quads i made up
> a rather elegant polished wood frame, so i could mount 2 panels
> above each other; the gentle curve of the frame sides took me
> *hours* to get right, planing away at a piece of 6x2 timber
> until it was no thicker than 2 inches anywhere...
I have a question about that, actually.
Why is it that planing off a 1/16" sliver of wood is harder than driving
the same blade through the same wood half an inch further down? Is there
some sort of effect at the edge of the blade which involves the wood
"flowing" up over it that it can't do at greater thicknesses? -- Joe
--
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"...I've been under Rebecca's car more times than I can count." -- Cael
Tanuki the Raccoon-dog
Thompson <fbi...@orion-com.com> said
>In article <xv3igUAW...@canismajor.demon.co.uk>, Tanuki the
>Raccoon-dog <Tanuki@canis-^Hmajor.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> For the Quads i made up
>> a rather elegant polished wood frame, so i could mount 2 panels
>> above each other; the gentle curve of the frame sides took me
>> *hours* to get right, planing away at a piece of 6x2 timber
>> until it was no thicker than 2 inches anywhere...
>
>I have a question about that, actually.
>
>Why is it that planing off a 1/16" sliver of wood is harder than driving
>the same blade through the same wood half an inch further down? Is there
>some sort of effect at the edge of the blade which involves the wood
>"flowing" up over it that it can't do at greater thicknesses? -- Joe
It's part of the intrinsic malice that's bound up in wood. I
guess it's the tree's way of getting its' own back on humanity
for having the audacity to cut it down and try to make
something useful out of it.
The grain is the most frequent manifestation of this; knots are
another, as is warping. Trees also sometimes conspire with
insects and fungi, so that wooden-things will survive for
long enough to lull you into a false sense of security, then
suddenly biodegrade into a heap of crumbly powder at indecently-
short notice.
--
!Raised Tails! -:Tanuki:-
http://www.canismajor.demon.co.uk/index.htm
"God is my Palm-pilot"
Jasper Janssen
<7fnvhj$8a5$5...@nebula.mpn.com>:
>My books are very typical, but my CDs seem to be a lot more mellow than
>most of what I've heard from other sysadmins. Hey, I *like* Abba, OK?
Cue image of transvestite travelling across wide open spaces in a pink
bus, while listening to Abba...
Jasper
Jasper Janssen
wrote in <slrn7i62...@hubert.ds9a.tudelft.nl>:
>bah. This sucks. My father was installed as a member of local government and
He made it, then? Cool. Congratulate him for me, will you?
I was thinking of asking about that a few days ago, but then promptly
forgot again, naturally.
Will he be able to mandate that cars not using their blinkers when
getting caught get scrapped immediately?
Jasper "Just curious" Janssen
Calle Dybedahl
> Cue image of transvestite travelling across wide open spaces in a pink
> bus, while listening to Abba...
For some reason, I got the image that they're racing across the desert
to reach a crashed server they have to fix before Monday. The
Dragqueen Sysadmin Task Force, or something.
And that in spite of having seen the movie (which was pretty good).
--
Calle Dybedahl, Vasav. 82, S-177 52 Jaerfaella,SWEDEN | ca...@lysator.liu.se
"I think quotes are very dangerous things." -- KaTe Bush
Jasper Janssen
(Peter van Hooft) wrote in <hooft.924935440@zaphod>:
>And you aren't a _real_ audiophile if you don't have speaker cables
>costing more per meter than other peoples' whole stereo sets.
*boggle* My father ain't an audiophile? That's new.
His speaker cables were $400 for 2 * 7 metres. Most expensive that
were available anywhere then... The upgrade, though, probably won't be
much more than $1500 either. So that's ~$100 per metre - you can't get
anything worthy of the name "stereo set" for that, can you? Not new,
at least.
Jasper
Joe Thompson
(Jasper Janssen) wrote:
> Will he be able to mandate that cars not using their blinkers when
> getting caught get scrapped immediately?
I want to see a law around here that using your hazard blinkers while
parked illegally, entitles the police to inspect your car to verify that
it is in fact disabled and you're not just trying to weasel out of an
illegal-parking fine. I *hate* when people block the road and think "I'll
just put my hazard blinkers on, they won't arrest me, and I'll only be
gone a moment to go buy shoes." -- Joe
Martin Wisse
wrote:
>*boggle* My father ain't an audiophile? That's new.
>
>His speaker cables were $400 for 2 * 7 metres. Most expensive that
>were available anywhere then... The upgrade, though, probably won't be
>much more than $1500 either. So that's ~$100 per metre - you can't get
>anything worthy of the name "stereo set" for that, can you? Not new,
>at least.
My stereo set cost me just $25. Second hand of course, no CD but with vinyl.
Why spend $$$ on audio when i could spend it on books instead?
Martin Wisse
Brian Kantor
>You don't get very much sound on a reel at 15IPS...
Hmmm. [walks into other room, grabs box of Scotch 206 off the shelf,
ponders timing chart]
2500 ft [1.5 mil] tape, recording one direction
1-7/8 ips 4 hours [my deck (Revox A700) won't do 1-7/8]
3-3/4 ips 2 hours
7-1/2 ips 1 hour
15 ips 30 mins
3600 ft [1.0 mil] tape, recording one direction
15 ips 45 mins
A vinyl LP is about 20-25 mins per side, 30 mins if it's not loud.
A CD can hold about 75 mins of audio, few do these days.
Doing an A-B test on a dozen CDs, the ONLY ONE where I could hear
a difference between the CD and the 15ips tape playback of it was
Dire Straits _Brothers in Arms_. That is one superbly-recorded CD.
If this is UI, maybe we're in the wrong 'froup.
- Brian
Charles Cazabon
<375570f1....@news.casema.net>:
>His speaker cables were $400 for 2 * 7 metres. Most expensive that
>were available anywhere then... The upgrade, though, probably won't be
>much more than $1500 either. So that's ~$100 per metre - you can't get
>anything worthy of the name "stereo set" for that, can you? Not new,
>at least.
A friend of mine has CDN$1500 speaker cables -- the manufacturer's mid-
line. Their top of the line goes for about ten times that. This is for
two 25-foot cables I believe.
I can believe that $100 speaker cables sound better than $15 Radio Shite
specials. I can believe that $1000 platinum-iridium tipped oxygen-free
copper cables sound better than $100 cables. After that I think its all
psychological.
Charles
Jasper Janssen
Thompson) wrote in
<fbi.gov-2504...@user-37ka4i2.dialup.mindspring.com>:
>I want to see a law around here that using your hazard blinkers while
>parked illegally, entitles the police to inspect your car to verify that
>it is in fact disabled and you're not just trying to weasel out of an
>illegal-parking fine. I *hate* when people block the road and think "I'll
>just put my hazard blinkers on, they won't arrest me, and I'll only be
>gone a moment to go buy shoes." -- Joe
I don't know how the law is in the US, but around here, ISTR the law
being that you're not illegally parked unless you hinder traffic
"significantly" or some such. This means that if you block the entire
one-way street, but no cars pass, you're clear. If you block half the
road, and people can pass on one side, you're clear as long as the
volume of traffic remains such that no sizable backlog builds up after
you.
In all cases, you're _required_ by law to turn on your hazard
blinkers.
Jasper
Jesus, that reminds me.. My mother's car has a malfunctioning brake
light, and no third brakelight. Which I noticed, oh, about 3 months
ago. I'd better fix that somday soon.
Jasper