SIMH+putty+RT11: terminal emulation?
shadoooo
Maybe the question is common, but I didn't found a solution.
I'm using SIMH with the standard RT-11 kit, setting it for telnet
console. As terminal I use Putty.
I can successfully boot RT-11, terminal seems to work, then I try to
EDIT a file in RT-11.
Arrow keys work, also editing seems to work.
In the end, I need to save the file and exit, but I can't: how to do
it?
Al Kossow
> In the end, I need to save the file and exit, but I can't: how to do
> it?
>
Using KED?
Do PF keys work in putty? You may have to type the escape sequence by hand
Richard
shadoooo <shad...@gmail.com> spake the secret code
<10a00e72-98eb-44b9...@d8g2000yqf.googlegroups.com> thusly:
I recommend a copy of VanDyke Software's CRT for ssh/telnet. It has a
very accurate VT100 emulation, including a VT100 font :-).
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Jerome H. Fine
>>shadoooo <shad...@gmail.com> spake the secret code thusly:
>
>>Hello.
>>Maybe the question is common, but I didn't found a solution.
>>I'm using SIMH with the standard RT-11 kit, setting it for telnet
>>console. As terminal I use Putty.
>>I can successfully boot RT-11, terminal seems to work, then I try to
>>EDIT a file in RT-11.
>>Arrow keys work, also editing seems to work.
>>In the end, I need to save the file and exit, but I can't: how to do
>>it?
>>
>I recommend a copy of VanDyke Software's CRT for ssh/telnet. It has a
>very accurate VT100 emulation, including a VT100 font :-).
>
>
I solved the VT100 emulation problem by using Ersatz-11. It is also
MUCH faster
than SIMH and (probably because I am more familiar) has more features.
However, I would appreciate being able to run SIMH as well. Can you
provide some details
on the VanDyke Software? A link or address from which to download would
be helpful to
start and the cost. Plus, I run under Windows 98SE and soon will use
Windows XP. How
do I integrate running SIMH in a DOSBOX and still have the VT100 emulation?
I ran V2.9-11 of SIMH at one point which contained most of the
application keypad emulation
for the VT100 except noticeably the all important PF1 key. Since I use
KED to do most of
my editing under RT-11, the inconvenience is rarely worth the extra effort.
In addition, Ersatz-11 is able to run VT100 emulation, but also allows
the VT220 extra keys.
While I have yet to add using the VT220 keys to KED, I find that the SL:
(Single Line Editor)
under RT-11 (my enhanced version) adds significantly to my development
efforts.
Jerome Fine
Simon Clubley
Yes, they work but only when the keypad is in application keypad mode.
This is true when running pterm/putty on a Linux system. I don't know if
it's true on Windows systems.
I commented on it in comp.terminals a year or two ago (the developers
are present in that newsgroup) and the bug was reproduced. I don't know
if it has been fixed in a recent version of PuTTY.
Simon.
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Tom Lake
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>
I solved the VT100 emulation problem by using Ersatz-11. It is also
MUCH faster
than SIMH and (probably because I am more familiar) has more features.
I, too, use E-11. The thing I like about it over SIMH is that I can use
real serial ports
as terminals. It's great running BASIC-2 on an ASR-33 Teletype again!
Tom Lake
shadoooo
Simh doesn't need to be in dosbox to work. A simple WinXP console will
work.
You can use the telnet option, so you can connect, also remotely,
using a telnet compatible software.
Stan Barr
>
> I, too, use E-11. The thing I like about it over SIMH is that I can use
> real serial ports
> as terminals. It's great running BASIC-2 on an ASR-33 Teletype again!
Does that work in Linux? I use E-11 under MSDOS in my fake PDP-11
(with blinkenlites!) and have a terminal (Qume QVT103) in another room,
a Linux-based machine would make an alternative.
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Jerome H. Fine
On Sat, 6 Nov 2010 04:18:02 -0400, Tom Lake <tl...@twcny.rr.com> wrote:I, too, use E-11. The thing I like about it over SIMH is that I can use real serial ports as terminals. It's great running BASIC-2 on an ASR-33 Teletype again!Does that work in Linux? I use E-11 under MSDOS in my fake PDP-11 (with blinkenlites!) and have a terminal (Qume QVT103) in another room, a Linux-based machine would make an alternative.
When I first used E11, I ran on a Pentium MMX under Windows 95. This hardware
had 2 serial ports, (I think they were COM1: and COM2:). Since my video card on
this system did not support 132 character text lines (to view MACRO-11 listings),
I attached a real DEC VT100 to the COM1: port. So E11 does support real serial
ports as well. IN ADDITION, E11 has the special settings to support attaching a
real DEC dual TU-58 (disk???) drive to the other serial port. At one point, just to
say I had been successful, I wrote out the files necessary to boot RT-11 under a
Y2K compliant version (my own bug fixes which I had done for a customer around
1997) of RT-11 onto a DECTape with everything set up correctly. While it took
many minutes to boot RT-11, there was the TU-58 drive being used to run RT-11
on a 30 year old drive with a Y2K compliant version of the RT-11 operating system.
On the current system, as well on the upgraded system that I will be moving to soon,
there are no serial ports. However, since the video card fully supports 132 character text
lines in full screen mode, I no longer need to use a real DEC VT100. In addition, E11
supports up to TWELVE different terminals (use the <ALT/Fn> keys to select which
terminal should be active - E11 remembers the screen display and if the text is either
80 character lines or 132 character lines).
So while I no longer can run the TU-58, the terminal problem is completely solved -
except for those who still enjoy the sound and feel of a real ASR-33 Teletype.
Fortunately in my case, my addiction is for the software and the hardware is not
at all important except for the question of being able to run the code on my SCSI
hard drive from the real DEC PDP-11/83 system. E11 supports this feature as
well when I attach the SCSI hard drive to an Adaptec PCI AHA2940AU host
adapter with a 50-pin cable. E11 also supports the SONY SMO S-501 magneto
optical drive.
Jerome Fine
H Vlems
wrote:
> >Stan Barr wrote:
> >On Sat, 6 Nov 2010 04:18:02 -0400, Tom Lake <tl...@twcny.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >>I, too, use E-11. The thing I like about it over SIMH is that I can use
> >>real serial ports
[snip]
> real DEC dual TU-58 (disk???) drive to the other serial port. At one
> point, just to
[snip]
>
> Jerome Fine
TU56 and TU58 were IIRC called "block structured tape devices", right?
Their behaviour for reading and writing files
was similar to a disk, as seen from the user. The actual
implementation was tape, (small) reels for the TU56 and
cassettes for the TU58. The TU56 was cute, I always booted RT-11 on a
PDP 11/40 off TU56 anytime we had visitors
in the lab. The TU58 was a RPITA as anyone who had to boot a VAX
11/730 or 11/750 from this device will confirm...
Hans