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m...@mancausoft.org

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Aug 28, 2011, 9:24:12 PM8/28/11
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I found a disk image of RSX-11M-PLUS V4.6.
I put it on simh (on linux) and installed DECnet V4.6.

Start decnet (with @NETINS), but I have an error message
every about 50 second:

Event type 5.13, Initialization failure
Occurred 28-AUG-11 21:12:51 on node 5.10 (MARVIN)
Line UNA-0

Why? Any suggestion?

---

simh config:
SET XU enable
SET XU MAC=aa:00:04:00:0a:14
attach XU eth0

sim> show xu
XU, address=17774510-17774517*, vector=120, MAC=AA:00:04:00:0A:14,
type=DELUA, attached to eth0

Sysgen configuration:
CE120 Do you want support for communications products
(such as DECnet, PSI, and LAT)? [Y/N D:N]: Y
Do you have any intercomputer communication devices? [Y/N D:N]: N


>show dev
VF0: Offline Loaded Type=unknown
VF1: Offline Loaded Type=unknown
CO0: TT0: Loaded
TT0: [5,1] [5,1] - Logged in Loaded
TT1: Offline Loaded
VT0: Loaded
VT1: Loaded
RD0: Loaded
DL0: Loaded Type=RL01
Seek_Optimization=Nearest:10.

DL1: Loaded Type=RL01
Seek_Optimization=Nearest:10.

DU0: Public Mounted Loaded Label=RSX11MPBL87 Type=RA92
DU1: Loaded Type=RA92
DU2: Loaded Type=RD54
DU3: Loaded Type=RX50
MU0: Loaded Type=TK50
NL0: Loaded
NN0: Loaded
NM0: Loaded
HT0: Offline Loaded
HT1: Offline Loaded
HT2: Offline Loaded
HT3: Offline Loaded
TI0:
CL0: TT0:
SP0: DU0:
LB0: DU0:
SY0: DU0:
NS0:
RT0: Loaded
RT1: Loaded
RT2: Loaded
RT3: Loaded
NX0:

>ntd
28-AUG-11 21:11:42 Node: MARVIN(5.10) MARVIN
RSX-11M-Plus, Non-Routing Node, DECnet V4.6
LNKS 2 / 10 XXXXXXXX!------------------------------- Alloc
Fails:
CCB 1 / 22 X!-------------------------------------- 0
SDB 0 / 11 ---------------------------------------- 0
LDB 0 / 20 ---------------------------------------- 0 : 0

Known Circuits: Network Processes/Tasks:
Circuit Cost Size Adj Node/Status Name TI Links MBX XMT
RCV

UNA-0 3 On-starting NTD... CO0: 1 0 0
0
NTDT0 TT0: 1 0 0
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Johnny Billquist

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Aug 29, 2011, 5:11:29 PM8/29/11
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I hope you are running simh as root, or else things will not work that
well. It would help if you check for any simh messages when it starts.

Apart from that, I'm not sure I've tried running simh with a simulated
Unibus machine. Normally I run with a Qbus setup, since that will be
more efficient.
(I do run real Unibus machines, though.)

Johnny

Unict Team

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Aug 29, 2011, 7:32:43 PM8/29/11
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On Aug 29, 5:11 pm, Johnny Billquist <b...@softjar.se> wrote:
> I hope you are running simh as root, or else things will not work that
> well. It would help if you check for any simh messages when it starts.

yes as root.

PDP-11 simulator V3.8-1
Disabling XQ
Listening on port 12323 (socket 4)
Eth: opened eth0

> Apart from that, I'm not sure I've tried running simh with a simulated
> Unibus machine. Normally I run with a Qbus setup, since that will be
> more efficient.
> (I do run real Unibus machines, though.)
>
>         Johnny

I tryed XQ and XU, same problem. I think is a simh problem, I tryed
with e11 and it work:

>NCP SET EXE STA ON

Event type 2.0, Local node state change
Occurred 29-AUG-11 19:25:55 on node 5.10 (MARVIN)
Reason for state change: Operator command, Old node state = Off
New node state = On


Event type 4.10, Circuit up
Occurred 29-AUG-11 19:25:56 on node 5.10 (MARVIN)
Circuit UNA-0


I send email on simh mailing list with the problem description.

Renaissance

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Aug 30, 2011, 1:36:29 AM8/30/11
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Unict Team ha scritto:

> On Aug 29, 5:11 pm, Johnny Billquist <b...@softjar.se> wrote:
>> I hope you are running simh as root, or else things will not work that
>> well. It would help if you check for any simh messages when it starts.

> yes as root.

> PDP-11 simulator V3.8-1
> Disabling XQ
> Listening on port 12323 (socket 4)
> Eth: opened eth0

libpcap installed?

bye G.L.
--
Da i.d.c.tutela:
P.S. Quando ci sarà lo switch-off, avrò problemi anche col
monitor del PC? Ho visto che è collegato in modalità analogica.

Johnny Billquist

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Aug 30, 2011, 6:25:07 AM8/30/11
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On 2011-08-30 01.32, Unict Team wrote:
> On Aug 29, 5:11 pm, Johnny Billquist<b...@softjar.se> wrote:
>> I hope you are running simh as root, or else things will not work that
>> well. It would help if you check for any simh messages when it starts.
>
> yes as root.

Good.

> PDP-11 simulator V3.8-1
> Disabling XQ

Uh? Why is it saying that line???

> Listening on port 12323 (socket 4)

And what is this?

> Eth: opened eth0

That, atleast, sounds good.

>> Apart from that, I'm not sure I've tried running simh with a simulated
>> Unibus machine. Normally I run with a Qbus setup, since that will be
>> more efficient.
>> (I do run real Unibus machines, though.)
>>
>> Johnny
>
> I tryed XQ and XU, same problem. I think is a simh problem, I tryed
> with e11 and it work:

Well, you do know that Unibus and Qbus machines are different, so you
need to do a SYSGEN and NETGEN in between in case you switch? It is not
enough to just change the line name, since the ethernet controllers for
the two buses are not program compatible at all.
Maybe it would help with the simh config file here?

Thinking of it, I have actually run simh with a simulated
Unibus-machine, and using ethernet, and it works fine. Did it on MacOS X
and not Linux, though.

Johnny

m...@mancausoft.org

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Aug 30, 2011, 9:42:33 AM8/30/11
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On Aug 30, 6:25 am, Johnny Billquist <b...@softjar.se> wrote:
> On 2011-08-30 01.32, Unict Team wrote:
>
> > On Aug 29, 5:11 pm, Johnny Billquist<b...@softjar.se>  wrote:
> >> I hope you are running simh as root, or else things will not work that
> >> well. It would help if you check for any simh messages when it starts.
>
> > yes as root.
>
> Good.
>
> > PDP-11 simulator V3.8-1
> > Disabling XQ
> Uh? Why is it saying that line???

SET XQ disable

>
> > Listening on port 12323 (socket 4)
>
> And what is this?

set console TELNET=12323


> > Eth: opened eth0
>
> That, atleast, sounds good.

attach XU eth0

> > I tryed XQ and XU, same problem. I think is a simh problem,  I tryed
> > with e11 and it work:
>
> Well, you do know that Unibus and Qbus machines are different, so you
> need to do a SYSGEN and NETGEN in between in case you switch? It is not
> enough to just change the line name, since the ethernet controllers for
> the two buses are not program compatible at all.

YEs, I run @sysgen and @netgen to change from unibus and qbus.

> Maybe it would help with the simh config file here?
>
> Thinking of it, I have actually run simh with a simulated
> Unibus-machine, and using ethernet, and it works fine. Did it on MacOS X
> and not Linux, though.

I resolve the problem using simh 3.8-2-rc2 from mailing list.

Johnny Billquist

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Aug 30, 2011, 1:08:00 PM8/30/11
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On 2011-08-30 15.42, m...@mancausoft.org wrote:
> On Aug 30, 6:25 am, Johnny Billquist<b...@softjar.se> wrote:
>> On 2011-08-30 01.32, Unict Team wrote:
>>
>>> On Aug 29, 5:11 pm, Johnny Billquist<b...@softjar.se> wrote:
>>>> I hope you are running simh as root, or else things will not work that
>>>> well. It would help if you check for any simh messages when it starts.
>>
>>> yes as root.
>>
>> Good.
>>
>>> PDP-11 simulator V3.8-1
>>> Disabling XQ
>> Uh? Why is it saying that line???
>
> SET XQ disable

I wouldn't have expected it to be "enabled" in the first place. Or maybe
that message comes out no matter what the current state is?

>>> Listening on port 12323 (socket 4)
>>
>> And what is this?
> set console TELNET=12323

Ah.

>>> Eth: opened eth0
>>
>> That, atleast, sounds good.
>
> attach XU eth0
>
>>> I tryed XQ and XU, same problem. I think is a simh problem, I tryed
>>> with e11 and it work:
>>
>> Well, you do know that Unibus and Qbus machines are different, so you
>> need to do a SYSGEN and NETGEN in between in case you switch? It is not
>> enough to just change the line name, since the ethernet controllers for
>> the two buses are not program compatible at all.
>
> YEs, I run @sysgen and @netgen to change from unibus and qbus.
>
>> Maybe it would help with the simh config file here?
>>
>> Thinking of it, I have actually run simh with a simulated
>> Unibus-machine, and using ethernet, and it works fine. Did it on MacOS X
>> and not Linux, though.
>
> I resolve the problem using simh 3.8-2-rc2 from mailing list.

Ok. So problem solved now? Great.

Johnny

Hans Vlems

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Sep 2, 2011, 3:50:09 PM9/2/11
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I think you should set the MAC address to a value outside the DECnet
range.
Like: SET XU MAC=08-00-2b-00-12-34
Hans

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