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Complete working PDP-11/70 For Sale

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Josh Hort

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Aug 7, 2001, 11:52:13 AM8/7/01
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Here's a perfect chance to own a great piece of history! Straight
from the basement of a DEC employee of over 30 years, this is a once
in a lifetime find! Below are the specs for a complete, working
PDP11/70. This machine was worth hundreds of thousands of dollars
when it was first released, now you can own it for a fraction of the
cost. This truly is a collector’s dream!

1. Fully operational PDP-11/70 with 512KB memory
2. 2 * RM03 40MB removable disk drives with 14 disk packs
3. 1 * RL02 removable disk drive with 2 disk packs
4. 1 * RX01 floppy disk drive
5. 1 * TE10W 9 track tape drive
6. 1 * DZ11-C 16 terminal controller
7. 2 * DECprinter I high speed line printers
8. RSTS/E operating system

System comes with circuit schematics and many, many manuals which are
worth quite a bit of money if you search Ebay. Equipment is in three
(3) 6 foot bays.

Now the gory details: Shipping and packing is to be paid by the
buyer. This machine must be crated and freighted by August 14, unless
you can come with a Uhaul to Nashua, New Hampshire (where the system
is located) and carry it away yourself (It is quite large!). No
exceptions!

Please send all correspondence to hor...@hotmail.com

Thanks,
Josh

Christian Corti

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Aug 8, 2001, 5:01:02 AM8/8/01
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Josh Hort <hor...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> System comes with circuit schematics and many, many manuals which are
> worth quite a bit of money if you search Ebay. Equipment is in three

As you might know, prices on Epay don't say what a thing may be worth, but
instead they show how many fools there are around wasting money :-|
The manuals aren't worth anything because there are plenty of them.

Christian

Jeff Shirley

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Aug 8, 2001, 12:18:35 PM8/8/01
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I disagree with this statement. Documentation for a piece of hardware or
software can make the difference between it being something useful or a
doorstop.

For example, let us say that at my local swap meet, I find an array processor
that originally cost $100K for sale for $1. If documentation is included with
it, I might actually be able to use it. Otherwise it is just a box of parts
that might have some value to a reseller.

Sure, manuals for DEC hardware and other popular items may be obtainable, but
it is not always easy to find what you need. And not having to go through the
hassle of doing so has value.

What frustrates me is that most of the time equipment is surplused, everything
except the hardware itself goes into the dumpster. I will agree with you
that Ebay prices are not good representations of the values of items; there
will always be people around that want something more, and have more money.
To anyone that actually wants to run this system, the manuals certainly have
value.

$0.02,

Jeff.

P.S. There are no "x" characters in my email address.
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Jeff Shirley
buc...@mindspring.com

Christian Corti

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Aug 9, 2001, 4:24:26 AM8/9/01
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Jeff Shirley <buc...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> I disagree with this statement. Documentation for a piece of hardware or
> software can make the difference between it being something useful or a
> doorstop.

Well, of course documentation is essential. And I agree with you that
hardware without any documentation is just a piece of hardware.

> What frustrates me is that most of the time equipment is surplused, everything
> except the hardware itself goes into the dumpster. I will agree with you

This is one of the biggest problems of computer collectors. Hardware and
software/documentation often goes different ways after being taken out of
service. Hardware is stocked in an own room or in a corner. Software/docs
are often directly dumped.

> that Ebay prices are not good representations of the values of items; there
> will always be people around that want something more, and have more money.
> To anyone that actually wants to run this system, the manuals certainly have
> value.

I should have said that the manuals aren't worth the Ebay prices, but of
course they are not worthless. I have been told that there are some
people who get an old working machine with all the docs and then rip out all
the parts to sell them separately just to make money instead of keeping the
machine for future generations. I've heard of a guy who did this with one
of the last working PDP-10 (I think).

Christian

Giorgio Ungarelli

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Aug 9, 2001, 12:07:08 PM8/9/01
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> I should have said that the manuals aren't worth the Ebay prices, but of
> course they are not worthless. I have been told that there are some
> people who get an old working machine with all the docs and then rip out
all
> the parts to sell them separately just to make money instead of keeping
the
> machine for future generations. I've heard of a guy who did this with one
> of the last working PDP-10 (I think).
>

That is a shame. People like that should be shot.

(my $0.02)


Giorgio


Ian King

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Sep 16, 2001, 4:35:20 PM9/16/01
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Yeah, I wish my wife shared that sentiment. She give me no end of grief
over the 11/34a I have in my basement, running UNIX 6th Ed. Honey, it's a
piece of history, I keep telling her.... :-)

"Giorgio Ungarelli" <gio...@ungarelli.net> wrote in message
news:9kuchj$cke$1...@news1.sunrise.ch...

charl...@gmail.com

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Sep 30, 2015, 9:31:29 PM9/30/15
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The value in the manuals is specifically "what" manuals. Some are extremely rare, and others are unobtainable unless you can find a collector to sell it to you.

nhja...@gmail.com

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Jul 26, 2020, 11:08:07 AM7/26/20
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Hi Josh, is the PDP-11 still available, what do you ask for it and do you ship internationally?

Terry Kennedy

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Jul 26, 2020, 3:06:59 PM7/26/20
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On Sunday, July 26, 2020 at 11:08:07 AM UTC-4, nhja...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi Josh, is the PDP-11 still available, what do you ask for it and do you ship internationally?

[Checks calendar to make sure it isn't April 1st.]

You DO realize that you're replying to a post that is nearly 19 years old, right? And even if it was still available you'd be talking many thousands of dollars to ship it overseas.

Christian Corti

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Jul 26, 2020, 3:50:02 PM7/26/20
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nhja...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 7, 2001 at 5:52:13 PM UTC+2, Josh Hort wrote:
[...]
> Hi Josh, is the PDP-11 still available, what do you ask for it and do you ship internationally?

*facepalm*
And here comes the next Google noob...

Christian

nhja...@gmail.com

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Jul 27, 2020, 4:02:57 AM7/27/20
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Hahaha, yes just after I clicked 'Post' I saw the dates and facepalmed. Sorry :)

But you can't blame a guy for being passionate about the PDP-11, right?

johnchar...@gmail.com

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Jul 27, 2020, 7:49:58 AM7/27/20
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On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 3:02:57 AM UTC-5, nhja...@gmail.com wrote:
> But you can't blame a guy for being passionate about the PDP-11, right?
I am ready to pass down my collection. I am in East Texas. Tough decision but I am at peace with it.
Anyone that is a good home please feel free to contact.

John H. Reinhardt

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Jul 27, 2020, 1:28:36 PM7/27/20
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Hi John. Also John here. I'm real close to Fort Worth. Not a lot of room but always interested. If you're looking to pass on items I would suggest here, or maybe the Classic Computer mail list or over at http://www.vcfed.org

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John H. Reinhardt

Will Senn

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Jul 27, 2020, 5:14:42 PM7/27/20
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Hi John,

What are you trying to pass down and how far out in east TX are you? I was out at Edom picking berries a couple weeks ago.

Will

johnchar...@gmail.com

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Jul 29, 2020, 8:05:27 AM7/29/20
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On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 4:14:42 PM UTC-5, Will Senn wrote:
> On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 6:49:58 AM UTC-5, johnchar...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 3:02:57 AM UTC-5, nhja...@gmail.com wrote:
> What are you trying to pass down and how far out in east TX are you?
I have two complete, though in some what disrepair, sets of RSX-11 manuals. I believe that each set constitutes a legal license. I have 15+ working RL02 packs some of which have sysgen. Lots of 8” floppies and tapes.
Hardware wise I have an 11/04 plugged into a working RL02 that I used to capture the diskpacks using PDP11-GUI. I have a 11/34 that has some issue booting but I think I have enough spare boards to make three 11/34s including boot roms, extra ram, floating point, etc. I have an 11/44 that was booting when I moved to into the barn. Somewhere I have a list of my boards. Also have some qbus stuff, an /73 maybe.
Some is in the Spring area, some near Crockett.

Mark Matlock

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Jul 29, 2020, 3:56:52 PM7/29/20
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John,
I am also in Texas (Canyon Lake) and I just finished building a new air conditioned hobby barn for my PDP-11s. My primary interest is RSX-11 running on Qbus
systems, but I also use RT-11 with a MINC-23. I am just finishing connecting a PDP-11/84 with a UniBone to a TU81+ to recover nine-track tapes. I would be interested
to know what tapes you might have. Also, I would have some interest in your PDP-11/44 and RL02s.

Best Regards,
Mark Matlock

Bill Gunshannon

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Jul 29, 2020, 5:03:19 PM7/29/20
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On 7/29/20 8:05 AM, johnchar...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 4:14:42 PM UTC-5, Will Senn wrote:
>> On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 6:49:58 AM UTC-5, johnchar...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 3:02:57 AM UTC-5, nhja...@gmail.com wrote:
>> What are you trying to pass down and how far out in east TX are you?
> I have two complete, though in some what disrepair, sets of RSX-11 manuals. I believe that each set constitutes a legal license.

I have never heard of a set of manuals constituting a license. If
that were the case I have a number of licenses still and have thrown
even more in the dumpster. :-)

bill


John Hudak

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Jul 30, 2020, 8:46:07 AM7/30/20
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Hi John:
Are the spare boards for 11/34 or 11/34a? If for the 34a, I'd be interesting in knowing the board M numbers. If you are willing to pack them, I'd pay shipping.
I can be reached at jhudak at gmail
Thanks
j

Chris Cureau

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Sep 3, 2020, 12:14:34 PM9/3/20
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On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 6:49:58 AM UTC-5, johnchar...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi John,

I'm in New Orleans, but I'm willing to make a trip. I've been trying to build up a 11/83 system for some time, and now I think I have most of the parts. But, spares are helpful...and if you happen to have a BA23 or a BA213...

Edmund Cramp

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Sep 7, 2020, 8:47:13 AM9/7/20
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I'm in Baton Rouge with a couple of 11/23s, a few RL02 disks, tapes, microVAX, VAXstation, a complete set of RSX11M manuals and a lot of old DEC books that have all been sitting in an air-conditioned office for years, should I put them on eBay?

Three Jeeps

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Sep 7, 2020, 12:34:42 PM9/7/20
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On Monday, September 7, 2020 at 8:47:13 AM UTC-4, edmun...@gmail.com wrote:
> I'm in Baton Rouge with a couple of 11/23s, a few RL02 disks, tapes, microVAX, VAXstation, a complete set of RSX11M manuals and a lot of old DEC books that have all been sitting in an air-conditioned office for years, should I put them on eBay?

Hello:
I assume you mean the RL02 drives as well as disks? Did you scan the 11M manuals? I could do that for you if you are interested.
I'd love to have the hardware but I have similar systems in my basement as well. Are the 11/23's in a rack? if so, what size rack? If they are in a 6' DEC rack I may be interested. I can be reached at jhudak at gmail
Thanks
J

Chris Cureau

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Sep 8, 2020, 2:18:57 PM9/8/20
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On Monday, September 7, 2020 at 7:47:13 AM UTC-5, edmun...@gmail.com wrote:
> I'm in Baton Rouge with a couple of 11/23s, a few RL02 disks, tapes, microVAX, VAXstation, a complete set of RSX11M manuals and a lot of old DEC books that have all been sitting in an air-conditioned office for years, should I put them on eBay?

Hi!

I'd be quite willing to come and help you repurpose these machines...I'm in New Orleans, so anytime you wish to chat I'm available. I've got boards that I've collected over time, but no backplane or chassis to put them in...

Chris Cureau

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Sep 8, 2020, 2:19:37 PM9/8/20
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On Monday, September 7, 2020 at 7:47:13 AM UTC-5, edmun...@gmail.com wrote:
> I'm in Baton Rouge with a couple of 11/23s, a few RL02 disks, tapes, microVAX, VAXstation, a complete set of RSX11M manuals and a lot of old DEC books that have all been sitting in an air-conditioned office for years, should I put them on eBay?

Please feel free to reach out at cmcureau at gmail dot com.
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