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Richard (Rich) Drake

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Nov 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/13/97
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I would not disagree with a manufacturers tech without some hesitation.
However, I have been using Win95 since the early days of Beta test, and have
reinstalled it dozens of times on many machines without removing anything. I
have never been sorry for doing that. My advice would be to try it. If worse
comes to worse, you can remove the Windows directory, as he suggests and do
it again - what's to lose? But, it could save you a lot of trouble
reinstalling all your apps. :-)

Chris wrote in message <346B0669...@acpub.duke.edu>...
>In regards to the reinstalling of Windows 95 over itself (without
>deleting the Windows directory, registry, etc.), I was told by Dell Tech
>Support that this could cause problems--corrupted files, etc--and the
>only sure way to reinstall Windows to cure minor problems or quirks
>would be to delete the Windows folder and reinstall. Which of course
>means reinstalling all the applications.
>
>Anyone care to comment on this claim, or give me any advice?
>
>Thanks for everyone's help,
>Chris.
>

tom ray

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Nov 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/13/97
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reinstalling 95 over itself MAY cause problems. I've never seen it
happen. you're reinstalling because you have problems anyway. when you
reinstall, it copies a fresh version of the file from the source code to
the win95 directory where you are installing.

tom

Richard (Rich) Drake

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Nov 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/13/97
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Chris wrote in message <64f8q8$b0...@tsai2.tsai.es>...
>Totally true. Besides, if you are going to go through all the trouble and
>time to do a reinstall, why not do it right? A format and reinstall removes
>old files, programs, etc . Loading w95 over the existing version leaves
>these files on the HD.
>

Win95 is designed to be installed over itself. In fact it recognizes when
you are doing that and copies only changed or damaged files. This type of
reinstall can be completed in a matter of minutes. What you are talking
about may take hours of painstaking reinstallation and options set up of
every application. I agree that there are times when that may be called for
but why not try the simple approach first. Especially if the system is
fairly new and doesn't have a lot of garbage on it.

>It's really not so bad to reinstall. I'd definitely go this routes.

G. J. Greetan

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Nov 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/14/97
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It seems to me like Dell tech support's answer for every problem
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ridiculous the number of people who have had to reinstall their
OS...I'm not sure whether it is WIN95, or the people using it.
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Chris

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Nov 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/14/97
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When one is having serious problem with W95, a clean install is the only way
to go. Reinstalling over a copy of windows that is still working, and old,
leaves behind lots of redundant *.DLL's, duplicate files, etc.

Reinstalling win95 is not hard, it's easy and doesn't takes hours if you do
it right. Just move the win95 folder from the CD-ROM to a new partition, say
d:. Then format C:, boot from a boot floppy, change to the d drive, go to
the win95 folder and run setup. Takes 15 minutes tops, start to finish. It's
really slick if you always leave you data on another partition, say E:. Then
you already have access to you data immediately after the reinstallation.
I've done this dozens of times with funky window problems, it's the only
sure cure I know.

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Gary Higgins

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Nov 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/15/97
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Richard (Rich) Drake wrote:

> Chris wrote in message <64f8q8$b0...@tsai2.tsai.es>...
> >Totally true. Besides, if you are going to go through all the trouble and
> >time to do a reinstall, why not do it right? A format and reinstall removes
> >old files, programs, etc . Loading w95 over the existing version leaves
> >these files on the HD.
> >
>
> Win95 is designed to be installed over itself. In fact it recognizes when
> you are doing that and copies only changed or damaged files. This type of
> reinstall can be completed in a matter of minutes. What you are talking
> about may take hours of painstaking reinstallation and options set up of
> every application. I agree that there are times when that may be called for
> but why not try the simple approach first. Especially if the system is
> fairly new and doesn't have a lot of garbage on it.
>
> >It's really not so bad to reinstall. I'd definitely go this routes.
> >
> >Chris wrote in message <346B0669...@acpub.duke.edu>...
> >>In regards to the reinstalling of Windows 95 over itself (without
> >>deleting the Windows directory, registry, etc.), I was told by Dell Tech
> >>Support that this could cause problems--corrupted files, etc--and the
> >>only sure way to reinstall Windows to cure minor problems or quirks
> >>would be to delete the Windows folder and reinstall. Which of course
> >>means reinstalling all the applications.
> >>
> >>Anyone care to comment on this claim, or give me any advice?
> >>
> >>Thanks for everyone's help,
> >>Chris.
> >>
> >
> >

Please advise how you did this. When I ran setup again, it kept asking me if I
wanted to over-write older files, since I added OSR-1 later. I installed the
older files, and found out later I had to re-install OSR-1, Win95 DUN 1.2, the
new Winsock update, and several other critical Win95 updates. There were other
things I had to fix as well, such as re-install of Netscape Navigator, and a few
other programs, due to setup's desire to install IE and MSN.

When asked if you want to over-write older files, should you always choose to
keep the newer files? If so, will that result in a "clean" install?

Appreciate any advice via e-mail direct from anyone. I hope to do this tomorrow.

--
Gary Higgins
Chicago, IL USA <The Windy City>
ga...@mcs.net
http://www.mcs.net/~garyh
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Steven Rosen

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Nov 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/16/97
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On Thu, 13 Nov 1997 18:39:18 -0500, "Richard (Rich) Drake"
<dra...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>Win95 is designed to be installed over itself. In fact it recognizes when
>you are doing that and copies only changed or damaged files. This type of
>reinstall can be completed in a matter of minutes.

Maybe but I tried to install SR2 (full ver - not upgrade) over an
exisiting older "a" ver. of W95 and couldn't get set up go. I got
error message telling me to get an upgrade version. Big pain. Is
there a workaround for this - without a reformat and reinstall of all
apps. I have Partition Magic but need the "b" version of W95
installed to get FAT32.


Richard G. Brennan

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Nov 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/20/97
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Steven Rosen wrote in message <3470853c...@nntp.ix.netcom.com>...

>Maybe but I tried to install SR2 (full ver - not upgrade) over an
>exisiting older "a" ver. of W95 and couldn't get set up go.

OSR2 is a full install, not an upgrade. In other words - you wipe out your
current install, reformat, and install from scratch. That is by design -
it's for new PC's only.

// Richard Brennan
r...@ibm.net
(Please reply to this address, rather than the one attatched to the message)

DuaneTharp

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Nov 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/21/97
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For fun, I thought I would reinstall windows from the CD that was shipped with
my XPSD233. Crazy, you say. Crazy turned into a big pain in the ass.

You would think that on a brand new machine without ANY changes, would be able
to take a win95 upgrade over itself. Well, it didn't, and I had to spend a few
hours installing into a new directory etc. etc. etc.

Make sure that before you do ANYTHING that you go to the dell diskmaker and
make driver disks for ALL of your hardware etc.....

duane

Joe Chelena

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Nov 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/21/97
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"Richard G. Brennan" <r...@ibmnet.com> wrote:

>Steven Rosen wrote in message <3470853c...@nntp.ix.netcom.com>...
>>Maybe but I tried to install SR2 (full ver - not upgrade) over an
>>exisiting older "a" ver. of W95 and couldn't get set up go.
>
>OSR2 is a full install, not an upgrade. In other words - you wipe out your
>current install, reformat, and install from scratch. That is by design -
>it's for new PC's only.
>
>// Richard Brennan

Nope, it's not just for new PC. Bellow is the URL for the OSr2 FAQ. As you
will see there are several ways to install OSrs on old computers.

http://www.compuclinic.com/osr2faq/

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