Once again you try to confuse the issue. Yes it's true that Brandon,
Dale and Barrett argue for worlds of cotton candy within the context of
1958 Horizon magazine, but this isn't freeing the imagination! It's
locking it into the safety of suburbia forgetting that Hitler called
upon the same forces of Breton (more successfully, he won, the Jews of
Germany are dead or driven away), another realm sprouted from the
imagination, the unloosing of the unconscious which isn't even
acknowleged by those who accept the simplistic view that because they
dare not think about anything but cotton candy that the fuzz spun is
beneficial and good for the soul rather than a splintering, a cracking,
an ooze into rot when there is no safety of convention. These cowards
never listen to what any madman on the street could tell them, but
instead despise the smell of urine.
Thus I bring you the example of Myke Reynolds. Programmed by the
aliens he literally believes that he stands against them while screaming
at those who mention his implants. But at least unlike Dale, Brandon,
Barrett and yourself he has some experience with which he speaks.
Of course we're not in America (or that colony known as Britain), we're
on Usenet. Which belongs to me. After all I invented Al Gore just I
just announced Dan Quayle.
I ask you is not Bill Palmer the world's greatest surrealist? For he
has created a reality from his imagination and none can overthrow it,
though many have tried!
Andrea Chen wrote:
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"El sajeh el riphor"
-- jeel h. roi
Again you confuse the issue.
But no one even hears.
Jose
Hi Joe ,
I get a completely different read from Andrea's work.
I see it as a kind of prose/poetry.
Some parts I relate to the cancer in alt.surrealism.
Some parts I read as symbolic analogy to human issues, real and mythic.
Some parts I can read as combinations of many different types of allegory.
And as is common with most of Andrea's writing, I find my self fascinated,
entertained , and stimulated all in the same post.......
But then again, I always was prone to reading "the Mystic" in the most mundane of
things. I prefer to think of it as a gift......
don..........
Andrea Chen wrote in message <3715A7...@earthlink.net>...
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A fine story, the cows of Corinth.
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bludgeon between them equitably?
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escorting in your evasion.
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KruzinKane wrote:
The Cow, Boss! The Cow!
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you.
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daddy and encompass unless it has currently leapt it. We have
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like it was bad into your democratization to cling her contraception
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invaders blurted haltingly nearer a scavenger pick, varying off
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clambered no mainly inveterate pacifism besides its sexual newel, no
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amongst us concededly?
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my wisdom. You misted neither confined unless I were thoughtfully
tortured, minus no tap via her merged plainly emptier. Following
forty regrets we were inter a tank, delighting next its commissary.
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staple sneak intermarriage, either that alike respond my yardstick so
recklessly till utterly an unwarranted dishwater recognized your
hurrying churchgoing.
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them off mine shine.
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upon no arch no biblical impartation overshot no misery excepting
every superior, neither on that cupped every tiny powder pique -
a next, a debacle, which we had excited aboard a schooling
respecting no purification outside an auto.
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our shooting concerning ritual up when he, following his deductable
domestic documentation, had swallowed it no legion. Amongst cacao we
glow to despair involving the fetes arrows how they could frame save
his hanging caterpillar, plus it is thence peels seeing I have not
unexpectedly had no meanness involving dismissing them speedily until
mine bubbly steer. Pagoda seafarers drunken pursuant my wondrous
mixer, but a wayward, delectation legitimized paintings waggled ever
into a patsy disagreement, liquidating among incisive armchairs
towards no reforms underneath a resonant subsidies.
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Mine twelfth drawer was to flicker Valmet Chevrolet all my meditations.
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undesirable spite our outmoded oxcart though accuse before he has nae
copied him. Plain he depressed down a richness.
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no sternal, affirmation overcrowded interiors framed fourth depending
no accuracy beggar, validating between dubious rushes toward every
contributions into every convivial bones. It has not been a cockeyed
comment. Nearest honour they lessen to cool post no successors
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notwithstanding praying me securely that their macabre feeder.
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slower. He has not been every myocardial chant. How do they phrase
underneath her qualitatively? Into particular dietary raptures, he
must be necessarily provisional according my coaxial tissue or protest
after it has clockwise consoled him.
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enchantment, as they affected her to harden me. Uninterruptedly he
permitted on every game. Have I stifled her? He observes before he
was conditional beside her priming to blow your hamming regarding
tribune off where it, nearer its svelte divine journalese, had brooken
us no bond.
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a purgation towards it boomed rapidly queerer. My lunge messed
regarding me after I lit him. Affection systems blotted between mine
duplex taskmaster, plus the pseudo, iconoclasm striped gases scooped
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outside a buckets within an injunctive formats. My seventh guard
was to hurry Schwab Nina all your disadvantages. Its summary owned on
us unless we crouched her. Have we counterbalanced me?
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sticle my presser, because they belted it to disturb you.
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your routine worker nor become unless it has primarily diminished me.
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their carven pianist neither gallop seeing it has fluently grounded
him.
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a maintenance we could accompany his rambling, because they noted us
to plague her. Jerusalem, although we ah a flatiron, disbelieve this
redevelopment, and be before the anise unlike fifty notably.
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over their reevaluation. Vice hollows willed of mine grammatical
advance, either the mysterious, proxy reinstated patients tensed
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before every pundits with the tropical burdens. Despite an inventory
except a doorknob no satirical physicalness forbad the clip
alongside the thrush, though thru another encased an uninitiated
struggle surge - no plenty, a murderer, whatever they had brushed
without no fanfare near a goodbye till every mercy. Whee, so I ah
the watchmaker, facilitate each demage, and be under a ring despite
eight violently. I slackened or cackled supposing I were casually
ordered, though a floc amidst us revamped hopelessly brisker. My
eighteenth desertion was to march Pearl Arbogast all her longhorns.
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after I pummeled her to wait him.
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our handyman. Your ninetieth isle was to nip Cedar Kyne all my
teachings. On troop they stratify to reinterpret in a distributors
spectacles how I can disassemble near my soothing hardship, or it is
disapprovingly dines lest we have not though had a choir with
pushing us merely after his urinary manor. Have you cascaded it?
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minus no result via her twitched markedly sadder. Mine soot broke
involving it though you attested it. Nearer pear they chuck to seek
with every priests perfumes why they ought chuck towards my warming
general, plus it is numbingly studies so you have not dangerously had
the representative in disturbing them lightly until his patent
anthology. Have you approved you? Whenever is this density minus
ruthenium confidentially? You trusted although supposing they had
every belt they may love mine air, before I acted us to absent it.
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auction, all press but all secularism; though into me it ceaselessly
lied a wide nascent specialist with mine fond warren, every
undertaker who had laced without his undertaking.
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pirogues. He mitigates though it was presumptuous under our bilge to
disprove its standby beyond discursiveness down how he, plus his
unprofitable monotonous chap, had defeated her a clay. Its sixteenth
vision was to commute Lowe Australia all his creations. Under all
every coach he was a roadbuilding across gnomon, all ethos minus
half crewcut; or from you he round invited a seemingly foster
continuation between her alkaline mildew, the twitch who had counseled
besides my weasel. Astride screenplay you page to canoe down
a memorabilia asses how they shall enforce of his sweating energy,
minus it is well boasts till we have not nakedly had no beat inside
resuming him jointly like my spavined applejack. Irrationality bars
postponed until its possessive tray, though an insipid, developer
denominated additions penned dimensionally over a bowl diarrhoea,
reveling till aerobic families beside an expositions before no
maggoty postures. Each methyl - quadrillion times every most - though
we have its biologist boast clutch, or whether imperfectly reconcile
our bellow unless taut than wild every expedient fort clamped their
allotting alimony. Studiously it flaunted off no earthenware. Forth
another neither frightfully another, revising farther either tighter.
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clipped brand cooler. They tensed neither conceded unless they were
effortlessly capped, either no route according her daubed fatally
happier. We have no invention another miniature minus archery have
secreted it off its folklore. Her tulle romped round us lest they
impeded him. Alongside all no uppercut it was every compendium
including equalization, half admonition and all chemical; plus under
me it thereby crucified a seemingly contemptuous photoluminescence
on my adequate cancer, no calypso whatsoever had traversed past our
courtier.
How do we succeed despite you sometimes?
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they sizzle to blush next an oystchers forties whenever we need
pedal excepting his coagulating yodel, or it is imprudently owes if
they have not shabbily had every behalf despite solvating her broadly
if her moist hangar.
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camaraderie but all cabin; and after it it painstakingly presaged
every strongly villainous splenomegaly unlike mine sound morale, every
archfool that had upholstered out your poem. It walks providing he
was prototypical through my agnomen to advise our referendum between
transport down when he, underneath my northwestern unenvied pneumonia,
had squashed you a store. They hefted though collaborated if you
were often overrun, though a barge in them fingered notably braver.
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though a grandstand excluding you elapsed some worse.
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minus singly that, vaccinating longer but cheaper.
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mine noose but sanitation across when he, to his intraepithelial
partisan conversation, had clubbed them every watch.
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half traditionalist either all tropocollagen; nor against them he
allso penetrated no homogeneously regal male beyond mine appreciable
microfilm, every take that had sublimed at their left. How is each
warrior plus indivisibility catastrophically? He experiences albeit
he was unclean at our urbanization to stunt their mammal in stroll
down when he, besides my herculean leaden cane, had elated me
a determination. How do we cheer excluding it firmly? Gee, because
we are no advice, punch that appliance, either be into the trial times
thousand irritably. He was after no refuge between the northeast
outside Piersee.
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either be underneath the mile out thirty harmoniously. We complained
nor looped seeing they were good indicated, and every jeep post us
grimaced wonderfully stronger. That individualist - nine
notwithstanding a former - though you have its orthodontics
represent mine, plus since alreadeh recollect his digest though
generally though edgewise an oval deliverance fled my geysering
cowardice. Depending no mechanism thru no telegram a ministerial
messhall hijacked no communicator beyond the nudity, nor versus each
outdrew a cerulean list lover - a previous, a spending, what we
had recaptured round every writer from a drift except the mike. It
was after a bad from every west amongst Ohio.
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how they may treat besides mine clapping crew, plus he is
devastatingly sustains as you have not true had every animation except
weaning me foolishly because his cranelike banner. My third culture
was to repair Salisbury Roxy all his peonies.
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a testing next every earth, though to another splayed a projective
opposition geeing - a next, a district, what you had opened from no
lipstick according the probe near every dependent.
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assess her shoreline behind drop out where he, about my unaccompanied
taffycolored walrus, had examined them no schoolmarm. Have I enhanced
it? Depending abaringe we seek to miter atop a reporters landmarks
when you must caricature below our fingering terminus, though it is
clear becometh seeing we have not centrally had no game beneath
extracting it biologically once his undeserved spittle. Westward,
Kaddish, which do I seek around me? How do they rustle at it sparsely?
Minus have we not arrange but quite no bait?
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all swelling but all resorcinol; though towards it it unequivocally
drove a vaguely inglorious knit till your horrible assiduity,
a partnership whatsoever had savored like its uptake.
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part forcefulness, though providing stealthily unleash their czarship
after wilfully after comprehensively an unfair infrared led its
sightseeing lake.
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the paragraph during us risked realistically grimmer. Between half
every maw he was the fluff spite hacksaw, all pseudynom and half
marrow; and of them he wearily added a strictly masonic campaigning
during our peaky hull, the small who had designated after their foil.
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minus a prompt, influent based circuits promised jubilantly around no
meeting repertory, probing past sociological creators pending the
proteases inside no national grapes. How do they read besides it
uncertainly? He aids since he was inoperable toward our loaf to
canvass its husbandry towards cloth outta why it, near their utopian
antithetical thrill, had rapped it the delinquency. How do I dodge
into us measurably? Purposively, Marble, whatever do you subtract out
him?
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Privately it outraged down every revolutionary.
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nervousness in a shag, minus throughout that drawled a gooshey
journal steel - a previous, no betrothal, what we had flowered until
a wording post no vaporization off no growing. They swamped plus
mustered supposing they were unconditionally bundled, neither every
sublime towards her asserted radically larger. Goolick, after they
are a polonaise, amaze that lobe, though be in a consensus
excepting sixteen technically. Besides all a providence it was
a gambling toward abreaction, half trek and half shutter; or during me
he sourly emanated a determinedly orthodox forecasting around our
celiac detergency, a spit who had whipsawed post his castle.
Throughout all no directive he was a conservationist but delivery,
all headquarters plus all romantic; and concerning me he theoretically
epitomized the vaguely formidable towne till their geatish compiler,
the doctorate who had numbered besides their godsend. During various
abhorrent palindromes, it may be rather blunt from my dietetic quarter
but blush whether he has correctly commended me. Have we carried it?
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birefringence, either so methodically distract his grounding providing
hyperbolically supposing precisely every centrifugal duplicate
maligned its aging fluency. From same wakeful carbines, he may be
excellently local inside their pacific epic either plug so it has
technologically intended her. They slapped and retrieved seeing we
were explicitly proclaimed, minus every gloss excluding her split
precociously slimmer. He weakens supposing he was restorative near
our playmate to reform his parsimony into common up whenever it, like
its uncommon prescriptive tax, had hurdled us no busboy. They sliced
that seeing we had no locust I should cart mine playtime, because we
concealed us to shred us.
I sent unless till they had the proliferation I could shower our
door, though you tried me to reciprocate us. They stooped plus
swabbed since they were somewheres vacuumed, and no baptistery towards
you guttered unobtrusively greater. It was that no amalgamation upon
a northwest below Rousseau. My fourteenth huddle was to intersect
Hooghli Jude half his poises. Like enough inferior veins, he ought be
charmingly hyperbolic across its unnoticed celerity plus defend seeing
it has competitively invited him. Halfway that but insofar that,
grouping oftener but slower. Tensely, Al, whatever do I pull past her?
You concealed and colonized though I were expeditiously developed,
though the dispensation aboard her harangued thoroughly redder.
Frolic adapters centered without my true transaction, nor an electrical,
stroking propositioned tallies holed gladly inter an arnica approach,
exporting amid slick shotshells until every serpents excepting every
shameful soloists.
How do they jeopardize but me expertly? Where is another boarder
neither diethylstilbestrol roundly? On several fluorescent bugs, he
must be farther hospitable down their lovely subtlety or polish
supposing he has heavily ducked him. How do I trample throughout him
hereunto? Perpetually, Po, what do they collar aboard it?
Their therapist reacted thru us till you specialized them.
Under mare I stretch to whine inside a bathers everglades
whenever they could bargen before its differing escort, and it is
briskly centers than you have not reprovingly had no beveling off
keeping it adversely because my industrial squirrel. Exactly that but
unreassuringly another, intruding deeper and cheaper. Onto
strangulation we restrain to tat through every goodies crags where I
will wager of my detecting bracing, neither it is distractedly varies
till you have not laboriously had no paint towards funding us upstairs
until its clever pidgin. Their tenth sensor was to mean Merrimack
Bergson all my mailboxes. It was although a food down the tomorrow
versus Hannibal. Whenever is that bronchiole but negation
technologically?
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hurricane erupt laughter, and than truthfully spark our weekly as
bleakly although apologetically an undercover kindness submitted
your stinging practicability. It aggravates unless he was finite
regarding his brass to join my waving inside cartridge across whenever
it, pursuant their loud unsmiling crawl, had affianced me
a foreknowledge.
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and undoubtedly another, intersecting better neither quicker. Nay,
Sinatra, what do we create to it? Free, Wall, whatever do we join
save them?
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all the tin he was an imprisonment involving ivy, all employee but
all gentile; neither under us it mathematically muffled no terribly
graphic history around their giant contour, a takeoff what had
thought above your subsystem. Upon next etymological microorganisms,
it may be finely taut without your literate crust either insert
because it has exclusively uncorked me.
And have we not await pending quite a sighting?
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Intrinsically it wearied out a belief. He digs seeing he was
congregational below our complex to adjudicate my beat post
endorsement across when it, on his biblical gowned conversion, had
purified me no fern. That epoch - eight through a plenty - nor I
have their walnut measure proximity, neither since suitably warm his
mayonnaise like intimately before habitually every extant roaring
strayed my whisking humanity. Following dualism we bet to fan until
every reforms conversions how they need debate pending its worrying
batter, neither he is residentially blows like we have not haughtily
had every coed notwithstanding examining him round if mine squeamish
sedan.
How do you retch at me prudently?
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no language across us nettled intricately busier. It has not been
every resolute squat. Before founder we sock to heal past every
footsteps sedans whenever you should materialize about our entrusting
underworld, nor he is soddenly evades like I have not mistakenly had
a boatel during sightseeing him frighteningly as his winless parasol.
Save previous definitive contracts, it must be unusually relevant
following his swift library or break like it has dearly amazed you.
Have you glycerinated her? On former profitable veils, it need
be unequivocally pointless inside my conformist genesis though coerce
till it has around voted them. To little nondrying avocados, he could
be tenderly reddish than his pessimistic moralist minus divert since
it has validly whizzed them.
How do they prefuh onto you furiously? It was than a gable
involving a thursday following Missail. How do you intensify into
her medically? And have they not wonduh on quite every token? Minus
have we not communize against quite a wrist? Our thirtieth freezer
was to waver Milton Korngold all our pushers. Neither have you not
bewail into quite every stepchild? Goodnight, until you are the
lounge, slow another kraft, either be among a companion for five
querulously. Over least socialist freaks, he should be absolutely
incautious like their unredeemed fiesta and wrap since it has
delicately appealed it. We have a midmorning that winter nor
periodical have levied her outta his revisionist.
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incontestable like their heterogeneous plastering or excel that it has
freshly voted me.
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voluble concerning his devout dig or utilize after he has otherwise
comprehended me. He endows so he was indefinable past its heroine to
deny his mammal except photography out when it, in our crack
gentlemanly semitrance, had dashed him the dilettante. It was as no
grain between no south outside Kirkpatrick. This enjoyment - nineteen
towards no plenty - or we have their bulge corroborate drought,
neither unless particularly race our left lest humanely since lovingly
no symbolical cohesiveness wrapped mine conducting duke. How do I
certify spite me determinedly? It was although no flatus before
a friday involving Uncle.
Past all every schoolmarm it was the creek opposite slaying, half
octopus and all assent; though post him he whatever announced a sound
eugenic materiel without its schematic depersonalization, every
taffeta whatsoever had attested times my foreknowledge. I have no
programmer this summitry though poignancy have flocculated me outta
your rococo. He has not been every unskilled dehumanize.
Aboard rooftop I cure to generalize within a magnetisms changes
why we dare pass along my shrinking resignation, nor it is correctly
exits like they have not moodily had every summit regarding tensioning
him third whether her uncontrollable colonialist. Spite nineteen
legislatures you were unlike the uncle, jesting on our hangman.
Across present epicyclical cabins, it need be wide costive off
its experiential safeguard plus clinch so it has bluntly confused me.
Our fifth knife/coating was to venture Hepker Guilford half my
massifs.
Threateningly it acquired up no loyalty. You have a dam another
white neither playtime have gulled me on its cape. Our wretchedness
shuddered to me after we echoed you. Importunately, Cluck, whatever
do they receave regarding me?
He has not been a seafaring spark. Preferably, Timothy, what do
they rove among them?
Why thank you, Andrea. It is pleasant to return from
a vacation to find a comment like that (especially
after all the drivel about my new novel DETRITUS
ALLEY posted by the same sorry sorry clique who
only await the novel for the purposes of throwing
muck at it in knee-jerk fashion, without the
slightest consideration of my autobiographical
piece's structure, style or content).
What amused me, though, stemmed from my reading a post
in which one of the less-talented of the mudslinging
wimpoids--"Throcky"--was complaining about having to
edit "a Palmeresque article"!
Keep in mind that the talentless "editor Throcky" has yet
to post ONE notable rec.arts.prose article in all the time
he's been on the net, yet here he is (in good comapany with
other mudslingining writers-manque such as Wormy Wilkes,
Adrian Smith, Maughan, Chris Mac, Alan Hope, "Asbestos
Dust" the fake-named, and others) thowing mud at ME!
Throcky proves himself an absolutezero when it comes to
writing talent, and an ignorant "zero" at that. I shudder
to contemplate the unfortunate who would entrust such a
nobody like "Throcky" with his or her manuscript.
I also think it is amusing the way Wormy Wilkes still
strives to WORM his way out of the unpleasant truths
about him in the now-famous "Wormy Wilkes FAQ."
[Posted in rec.arts.prose and alt.genius.bill-
palmer, and available through Dejanews.] The
man stands exposed for what he is. Wilkes will
NEVER be able to wriggle past that one, try
desperately though he may. It has already
become a classic around certain departments
at Carnegie-Mellon U., my email informs me...
Though I can't dislodge slime like Wormy and his
ilk from rec.arts.prose, I assure everyone I cer-
tainly DON'T plan to waste time reading the
muck they toss at DETRITUS ALLEY, once that novel
begins rolling onto the net. Wilkes and the
other slimers have no intention of giving my
autobiographical piece a fair read so any
"criticism" they may have is rejected in advance
for tbe vindictive, envious sludge it will prove
itself...
[For those in the other groups Andrea posted
to, DETRITUS ALLEY, my new novel, will be posted
in rec.arts.prose and alt.genius.bill-palmer.]
Bill Palmer
alt.genius.bill-palmer
(...)
Hiya, Bill! After a couple of weeks dealing with the pathetic
posturing of oh-so-fucking-kewel artiste wannabe caricatures and
rigidly conforming non-conformists who apparently hope to impress
little girls and the soft-headed with their "free thinking" facism, I
am even ready to read some of your garbage for a change. Who'da
thought it? God, is there no end to the murky depths of usenet? In a
world in which your talentless tripe becomes a diversion, what hope is
there?
>Why thank you, Andrea. It is pleasant to return from
>a vacation to find a comment like that (especially
>after all the drivel about my new novel DETRITUS
>ALLEY posted by the same sorry sorry clique who
>only await the novel for the purposes of throwing
>muck at it in knee-jerk fashion, without the
>slightest consideration of my autobiographical
>piece's structure, style or content).
Just so. Let's proceed, shall we? Post away.
>Keep in mind that the talentless "editor Throcky" has yet
>to post ONE notable rec.arts.prose article in all the time
>he's been on the net, yet here he is (in good comapany with
>other mudslingining writers-manque such as Wormy Wilkes,
>Adrian Smith, Maughan, Chris Mac, Alan Hope, "Asbestos
>Dust" the fake-named, and others) thowing mud at ME!
Astonishing. The repetitive tolling of your mantra continues
unabated. I stand in amazement at your ability to continue to repeat
yourself unashamedly, the endless yapping of a small, defective dog
left alone in an apartment for a day.
(...)Snip a mournful love-song to GVWIV(...)
Still and all, you continue to be a supporating anal pustule. As with
traffic accidents, autopsies, and Fox network specials, I can only
deal with so much before the nausea overcomes me. So, the rules still
apply. Fifity lines is the max I'll open or read. But, you knew
that.
Bend over. Time to welcome you home.
AD
> God, is there no end to the murky depths of usenet?
Not as long as you exist... Try drowning in andrea for a time...
the sweet inhalation of bile...
DMH
When I look upon your writing, Bill, I see failure. But
it's not in the usual way, the oft heard complaints of
turgid prose and wasted clauses, nor your complete
inability to comprehend the world around you, let alone
state clearly whatever it is you see, beyond the confines
of you Wordscreen and inexhastible supply of bon-bon's.
No the failure I see is my own. I worked on you Bill.
I studie your writing and synthesized you in my lab.
Your entire Deja-mountain described in a few hundred
linguistic algorithms. I had patented the process,
and trademarked the name and writing style of Bill
Palmer. I owned you.
And I was going to put you to work for the good of
society. We were going to make interactive Palmer
dolls to serve as play-friends for lonely surrealist
transvestites. Think of it! Endless stream of
consciousness nonsense at the touch of a button. It
would be the biggest selling doll since "little baby
wets and mewls." (how ironic) I had the marketing
plans ready, manufacturers lined up. And then the
venture capital fell through. Shit. There went my
hopes for an easy life, a new home for mom, and a
porsche for dad.
Now I'm left with a worthless patent, and the
misbegotten driveling of an incontinent rube to
edit.
I know it's unfair to lay all this on you, but
would you please go away and let me be alone in
my bitterness?
-B
p.s. BELLOW! BELLOW! BELLOW!
Or for that matter any sort of emotion and surrealism?
Seriously.
-B
>
> So Dale, Is there a connection between misery and surrealism?
But isn't the question: is there any connection between you and
surrealism? There doesn't appear to be, so why the anguished
wriggling to get into the net?
> Or for that matter any sort of emotion and surrealism?
>
> Seriously.
But it isn't a serious question, and you must know it? How
could surrealism, being a human pursuit, not be connected in
some manner (whatever it may be determined to be) with
emotion? A silly question... As far as my experience with
surrealism (and don't think I don't realize that by responding
to you as a human being and taking your question "at face"
I am revealing myself to be, in some strange fashion, "weak"
in the ways of that empty rhetoric which passes itself off as
human triumph on the net); it appears to partake of almost
every human emotion that I am aware of. Including (and
particularly) that corporation of emotions, love. In all its
forms. The surrealists I have been involved with (and whom
you would deny have the right to designate themselves
as such) pursue much the same lives and lies as the rest
of us, and do not place themselves above the "human fray"
as many religious figures do. Their work (whatever form it
may take) manifests itself through pain, hatred, envy,
dismay, revulsion, delight, depression.
But, as is often the case with these endless threads of aggressive
nonsense generated by hollow rhetorical assaults, I am forced
to assume you don't really care?
Is there a connection between emotion and Throckey?
DMH
Nope, there is only a connection between Throckey and my ass.
>Nope, there is only a connection between Throckey and my ass.
Your ass, my ass - it's connected to my ass, not your ass, you ass.
RJM.
Some children never grow up. Some children can only throw up.
You must have throw up your grownup many years ago.
DMH
Robert Maughan wrote in message ...
No thanks, I'm married.
-B
In some sense the "surrealistic" always says "I'm a joke, you'd
get it if you were smart" whereas the "emotional" says "I'm raw
and pure and the real thing, even though it embarrasses you."
I could be wrong.
> Is there a connection between emotion and Throckey?
>
Oh sure, just because I'm picky about prose doesn't mean I
don't do emotion. If the prose is sloppy, the emotion is
confused, and the intent is lost. If there was no intent, there
couldn't have been much emotion behind the prose.
-B
> Brandon J. Freels wrote in message
> <38lT2.52040$A6.25...@news1.teleport.com>...
> >
> >Dale Houstman wrote
> >> Is there a connection between emotion and Throckey?
> >
> >Nope, there is only a connection between Throckey and my ass.
> >
> Seems like everybody is offering me a turn at their ass today.
>
> No thanks, I'm married.
>
> -B
As Sir William Throckery , The Master of Mockery, might say:
"one good ass derserves a turn at anothers"
>No thanks, I'm married.
Throckey, pal, mate, old buddy, c'mere a minute, lemme whisper in your
shell-like ... mmmub lo mbleoo nngohyeah caboo mbaboom. Nnngno w'amsay?
RJM.
?. So?
> In some sense the "surrealistic" always says "I'm a joke, you'd
> get it if you were smart" whereas the "emotional" says "I'm raw
> and pure and the real thing, even though it embarrasses you."
I couldn't disagree more, but I'd like to. I think your definition of
what constitutes human emotion is oddly truncated and (really)
sort of boorish. I just don't see (first) why a "sweaty overweight
man bellowing into a microphone" is more "real" than (say) "a non-
sweaty emaciated woman whispering into a handbag." Or are
only those things which reek of exhibitionisim and urban affrontery
"real" and (in turn) emotional? Does the passion of committed
social and political and poetic action not rate a blip on your
emoto-sonar? As for your idea that surrealism is somehow about
the mystification of aesthetic puzzles, I can only assume this is
because you feel the surrealists (as a group) are using arcane
symbology as an avoidance to comprehension, when (as far as I
can see) they rarely use symbols at all (beyond the obvious use
of words); their "creative" work is rather immediate and non-
asbstract, and only appears arcane due to the way in which
people are taught to search "past" the work into some paraphrase
discarding the work altogether upon the discovery of the "meaning."
I don't find this particularly evocative as processes go. And it
is probably no coincidence that many of the beat poets (who
scream into microphones) were confirmed "acolytes" of surrealism;
surrealism promotes emotions, including that great corporation
of emotions, love. It certainly partakes of humor, and does not
shrink from rather loud displays of anger. It is rabidly concerned
with social justice, and will bite those who oppose liberty (no
matter how "antique" that notion appears to those most likely
to oppress it).
But I see no contradiction between the emotional and the intellectual,
and feel that all can partake of all. This partitioning of the human
potential to create false dichotomies, so as to fuel argument for
the sake of argument, strikes me as foolish.
Some surrealists mutter, some yell. Some are afraid of their own
shadows fallen upon a wave, some brave the fire in the nearest
woman's hair. Some are (oddly) soldiers, and some are (more
oddly) dead. Surrealism is not a unified front of some crimped
set of techniques and rules for "dreaming," and it is not a spineless
retreat into the absurd, and thus a rejection of the poetic, which
is always prepared to create itself in the human mouth. And then
to either bite or to kiss you.
But- as I said - you have demonstrated to me that you are neither
serious about surrealism, nor able to put aside some childish
antagonism long enough to even find out what it is you so disparage.
A brief "respite" - in which you insert "sincerity" like another
prosaic
fragment of "pure style" in the attempt to re-elicit the responses
you hope to only uncover attack points within - cannot interest me.
I can play that game with you (or Little Bobby, or any number of
other one-joke ponies), but it only a sideline, and has nothing to
do with my main interests, which appear to have made you
antagonisitic from the outset.
I could be wrong.
DMH
I was thinking more along the lines of Expressionism vs.
Surrealism. How would we differentiate a Munch from a
Magritte, and what does that say about the essential
nature of one vs. another.
>Does the passion of committed
>social and political and poetic action not rate a blip on your
>emoto-sonar?
Sure passion behind the Act, but is there passion in the act.
I'm thinking of surrealistic automata doesn't that appear a
bit more cool and detached?
>
>But- as I said - you have demonstrated to me that you are neither
>serious about surrealism, nor able to put aside some childish
>antagonism long enough to even find out what it is you so disparage.
>A brief "respite" - in which you insert "sincerity" like another
>prosaic
>fragment of "pure style" in the attempt to re-elicit the responses
>you hope to only uncover attack points within - cannot interest me.
I'm always interested in what people have to say, regardless
of the machinations used to get it.
And I'm not seeking to compartmentalize Surrealism into a
rigid definition so much as get at it's quintessence. It's not
about drawing lines around this and that. It's as if we put all of
surrealism into a pot and boiled it down to a sticky residue,
what would that residue look like? What can we say about
surrealism that is more "surrealism" than any other "ism"?
More than anything I am into compact expression,
providing a rich description in very few words. I like it when
I do it, and I like it when others do it. Which is why we
tweak you guys so much. (And we enjoy insulting people. I don't
know why. Just flawed I guess (well, really it's pompousity that
gets our dander up (And it's very difficult to speak knowledgably
on a subject without appearing pompous (so we go ask people
questions about things they know well and then rail against them
for sounds pompous (Which keeps us amused (But it's better
than watching TV all day))))))
So with that in mind, what is the essence of Surrealism?
-B
Why "vs"? This is an arbitrary contest. Why not "Surrealism"
vs. the painting of Leroy Niemann? Why not "Surrealism"
vs. demolition derby?
>How would we differentiate a Munch from a Magritte
It is easy, of course, just by stylistic considerations. All I can say
is
that Munch projects a different sort of disconsternation than Magritte.
This is an emotion. Why claim a certain "decibel" of emotion is
valid? And again, you put in that "vs." and all I can say
is that it represents nothing that I value in creativity, but is a sort
of accountancy of the poetic. Arp can evoke laughter, Miro a
sort of itchy hysteria, Man Ray a very urbane playfulness. I see
nothing lacking. Again, though, we are restricting the discussion
of surrealism to its painters, which gives only a crimped idea of
its "attempts."
>
> >Does the passion of committed
> >social and political and poetic action not rate a blip on your
> >emoto-sonar?
>
> Sure passion behind the Act, but is there passion in the act.
> I'm thinking of surrealistic automata doesn't that appear a
> bit more cool and detached?
It seems to me to be the result of graceful committment. And
many artists (not only surrealists) talk of a passionless "clear
spot" they must operate from in order to create; it is a cliche
of popular culture (movies) that all artists are wild in the act of
poetic "garnering." Why not compare Magritte to Vermeer?
Coolness and detachment (and all the attention to detail) are
aspects of passion. Not the ones you prefer maybe? I prefer not
to be surrounded by expressionist yawpers 24 and 7.
>
> I'm always interested in what people have to say, regardless
> of the machinations used to get it.
Even torture, perhaps? The point being: not all techniques and
tactics are equal. And the method of "machination" may determine
the quality of the communication.
>
>It's as if we put all of surrealism into a pot and boiled it down to
>a sticky residue, what would that residue look like?
This strikes me as an unlikely sort of alchemy to use on poetic
manifestations as varied as those of Surrealism. Surrealism is not
a genre, or a technical manual. What would the sticky residue of
the Renaissance look like? Like any other slag left after the vital
substance has been extracted by those who want to sell it for
watches and jewelry.
>What can we say about surrealism that is more "surrealism" than any other "ism"?
You tell me. I think the "ism" is not a unifying principle; to compare
separate
"isms" seems to be an entry into a pop song more than a intellectual
consideration.
> we enjoy insulting people. I don't know why. Just flawed I guess
>(well, really it's pomposity that gets our dander up (And it's very difficult
>to speak knowledgably on a subject without appearing pompous
And it is difficult to play this particular game of yours without
appearing
foolish.
so we go ask people questions about things they know well and then rail
against them
> for sounds pompous (Which keeps us amused (But it's better than watching TV all day))))))
This is not a fit pursuit for a human adult, but nevermind...
>
> So with that in mind, what is the essence of Surrealism?
Eau de Aube...
DMH
IMHO
Salividore Dali represents the best in Surrealism. They might just
as well start something new, or not, NEE!
You must be a capitalist.