rap tactical syntax?
Herb M. Zinn
the syntax and methods used in the "rap" music lingo - has anyone tackled this
subject in print anywhere?
definitely tactical syntax stuff...though somehow when i see this group i always
imagine richard bandler pulling guns on people to shock them into trance state
during neuro linguistic programming lectures, before i imagine the rap music.
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antebi
)i didn't find it addressed in the faq, so i thought i'd ask:
)
)the syntax and methods used in the "rap" music lingo - has anyone tackled this
)subject in print anywhere?
We don't discuss the language of Rap here because we only discuss human
languages on AST.
Fever Germ
Lazarus
>
>the syntax and methods used in the "rap" music lingo - has anyone tackled this
>subject in print anywhere?
There has been no discussion of this in print because it is an invalid
arguement. Please terminate your interest in this group. You obviously
have little understanding of the ways and means of alt.syntax.tactical so
you must not post here in the future. "Rap" music is not an acceptable
subject.
>definitely tactical syntax stuff
You have no concept of Tactical Syntax. Your demeaning reference to our
subject matter as "stuff" further excludes you from this group.
Begone!
>...though somehow when i see this group i always
>imagine richard bandler pulling guns on people to shock them into trance state
>during neuro linguistic programming lectures, before i imagine the rap music.
>
Do we care? We are not interested in "linguistics" or your petty
conceptions of what this group discusses.
We also use the capital "I" when refering to ourselves. It shows that we
care to spend the time to post properly and have respect for the group.
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Goodbye, Herb. We no longer have any use for you.
Lazarus
Acolyte to the Temple of Syntax
Secretary to the exaulted Fever Germ
Herb M. Zinn
>In article <CHqL3...@rci.chi.il.us> h...@rci.chi.il.us (Herb M. Zinn) writes:
>>i didn't find it addressed in the faq, so i thought i'd ask:
>>
>>the syntax and methods used in the "rap" music lingo - has anyone tackled this
>>subject in print anywhere?
>
>There has been no discussion of this in print because it is an invalid
>arguement. Please terminate your interest in this group. You obviously
hmmmm... for someone who makes claim to so much knowledge of the ways of words,
you sure have a unique way of spelling them. remember to post properly and
have respect for the group, right?
also, if you're going to hallucinate an "arguement" in a post where there are
none, it can help the process of communication to explain these imaginings
in a little more depth.
>have little understanding of the ways and means of alt.syntax.tactical so
>you must not post here in the future. "Rap" music is not an acceptable
>subject.
oh, i'm sorry lazarus, i hadn't realized that you had recently been appointed
net dictator. i promise you and god and everyone that i'll do penance for
my sins against you and "your" newsgroup.
as for rap music, you obviously have little grasp or appreciation of the muse,
so why bother argu(e)ing a point you obviously know nothing about?
>
>>definitely tactical syntax stuff
>
>You have no concept of Tactical Syntax. Your demeaning reference to our
>subject matter as "stuff" further excludes you from this group.
>Begone!
only someone with a low self esteem could be offended by that statement.
or perhaps its the whole topic of tactical syntax that has the low self
esteem?
>
>>...though somehow when i see this group i always
>>imagine richard bandler pulling guns on people to shock them into trance state
>>during neuro linguistic programming lectures, before i imagine the rap music.
>>
>
>Do we care? We are not interested in "linguistics" or your petty
>conceptions of what this group discusses.
>We also use the capital "I" when refering to ourselves. It shows that we
>care to spend the time to post properly and have respect for the group.
funny, i liked your earlier posts. i thought (apparently incorrectly) that
i might have found a segment of usenet unfettered by the traditional norm of
childish, antagonistic and excrementitious diatribe.
once again i see you're into your imaginings, apparently youve hallucinated
some kind of connection between my statement and your own need to defend "your"
newsgroup against perceived attacks.
i have no time for meaningless impositions of _your_ idea of syntactically
correct posting. (especially if its anything like your netiquette)
btw, if this is an example of your not caring, i'd sure hate to see what you
do when you dislike something.
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>
>Goodbye, Herb. We no longer have any use for you.
well laz, since i never had any use for you i guess its no big loss.
>
>
>Lazarus
>Acolyte to the Temple of Syntax
>Secretary to the exaulted Fever Germ
if this is the way you deal with a simple question about the FAQ, its no wonder
you're only an acolyte. also, i have a great 2nd grade spelling book you can
borrow if you want to (ahem) brush up on those spelling "skills" of yours.
James R. Groves
Lazarus (dtr...@netcom.com) wrote:
: In article <CHqL3...@rci.chi.il.us> h...@rci.chi.il.us (Herb M. Zinn) writes:
: >i didn't find it addressed in the faq, so i thought i'd ask:
: >
: >the syntax and methods used in the "rap" music lingo - has anyone tackled this
: >subject in print anywhere?
I find this question interesting and wonder myself if there are any valid
syntactically aware Rappers. This seems to be a very prominent place where
syntax could be used for the alteration of consciousness, as it were.
Superliminal and Ultraliminal syntax would be an interesting way of altering
thousands, if not MILLIONS of minds.
: There has been no discussion of this in print because it is an invalid
: arguement. Please terminate your interest in this group. You obviously
You sir, need to begin to rethink your attitude towards others. Anything
discussing the engaging use of verbiage and the syntax thereof MAY be of
interest to some. You also fail to state the why of your argument, whilst at
the same time using most NON-Tactical syntax. Please, ignore the ramblings
of your rectal aperture before posting again. You may make sense as well as
coming across in a more interesting and effective manner.
: have little understanding of the ways and means of alt.syntax.tactical so
: you must not post here in the future. "Rap" music is not an acceptable
: subject.
Acceptable to Whom? Are you the moderator of this group, which if I am
correct falls within the domain of the ALT hierarchy, the accepted place for
the MOST anarchical of Usenet posts? If you are not you have VERY little say
in who should post what where, and again, I must implore that you disengage
from your rectal earmuffs and begin THINKING. While it may be painful at
first, I think you just MAY begin to enjoy the pleasures of actually
cogitating. Until you are elected king, keep your singular opinion to
yourself, or better yet, take it to alt.overlord where it will be more
appreciated.
: >definitely tactical syntax stuff
: You have no concept of Tactical Syntax. Your demeaning reference to our
: subject matter as "stuff" further excludes you from this group.
: Begone!
I doubt that you will understand this, but speaking to a person in a form
they understand is one of the keys to communication. It is very UNtactical
to say to a person something which they will not understand, unless this is
what you are TRYING to accomplish. Communication is NOT what is SAID, but
what is HEARD <or READ in this case>. Mr. Zinn is making a valid point in
speaking of a language in which the Tactical aspect of Syntax is VERY
important if not Tantamount to winning the respect and adoration of others.
: >...though somehow when i see this group i always
: >imagine richard bandler pulling guns on people to shock them into trance state
: >during neuro linguistic programming lectures, before i imagine the rap music.
: >
: Do we care? We are not interested in "linguistics" or your petty
: conceptions of what this group discusses.
: We also use the capital "I" when refering to ourselves. It shows that we
: care to spend the time to post properly and have respect for the group.
I quite enjoy the first line of the last paragraph, most specifically where
you speak of yourself <YOU being the only one to speak these thoughts
THUSFAR> as WE, and then berate Mr. Zinn for using a Lower Case i in
reference to himself. You are a jolly funny person, and I hope I will be
able to laugh AT you more in the future!
Although Linguistics has very little to do with tactical syntax,
Neuro-Linguistic-Programming is QUITE concerned with it, and in fact is one
of the most commonly available LEARNING methods for Syntacticality.
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: Goodbye, Herb. We no longer have any use for you.
There is that 'We' again. Why Queen Victoria, how pleasant of you to drop
by! I would hope that the idiocy washing over you as you sit huddled before
your keyboard finding youself <selves? You DO have this WE problem> witty,
hilarious and tactically superior whilst making a fool not only of yourself,
but all those who didn't reply to this message with vicious attack, will
fade away, and you will reply to this that you have seen the error of your
ways, or possibly even <covering your tracks> that you weren't in your best
form and your 'woman' left you so a bad mood was present. But indeed, I
belive as strongly as an optimistic sceptic can 'believe', that your reply
will be more of the same, or you will run tail between your legs and ignore
this. Whichever way, I hope the discussion of rap-syntax can now resume in
this thread.
: Lazarus
: Acolyte to the Temple of Syntax
: Secretary to the exaulted Fever Germ
Acolyte? Annopying Altar Boy MAYBE.
Loopi the Non-Tactical but semi-clever Goose. <as in Silly>
James R. Groves
explaination or 'boasting' is quite germaine here. I feel compelled to point
out Mr. Zinn, that although your post was entertaining, and your subject
matter quite appropriate, your flaming of the spelling of a few words by the
diarheic and self aggrandized and self appointed Spokes-Creature of this
group, was slightly childish and should in the future be constrained to
alt.flame.spelling or some such. And to expect civility on Usenet is quite
naive. I find that the 'elite' and cliquish users cannot abide the
introduction of so called 'newbies' in their midst, and when the few who
started this group did so, it was probably for the express purpose of having
a group 'of their own' so to speak. They have most likely been waiting for
an unwitting dupe like you to show up so they could jump down your throat.
___OR___
Our erstwhile moderator is <as I suspect> having delusions of grandeur in
his novel use of the word 'We' and since he has received no follow-up posts
of agreement, I think we can just ignore his heavyhanded fascist behavior
and go on about our business as if he were already in our kill files. Not
that I use them mind you, since ignorant pompous freaks like that can
sometimes be entertaining in a whining pathetic sort of way.
Loopi the Last Poherteran
Roy Carlton
: >definitely tactical syntax stuff
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Listen up, you Subgenius wannabe..Pink sucking neo-bobbies like you are a
dime a dozen at the convienience store down the street, so my tip to you is
to get your ass out of the sling and start shooting some shit lest ye end up
covered in said shit.
You fucking salad shooting moron, whats all this porky talk of "Begone!" I
think you should get that metacarbo oscalator out of your anal caviaty and
stick it in your eye where it might do some good, Ploppy!
"Secretary to the Fever Germ"?!?!?! this sounds like you fancy yourself some
kind of hip hop flip flop door drop spoomonger when all you are is some kind
of fag paisley choirboy little googoo hen who cant keep hishands out of the
braindrain tumor that Mondo Beyondo carries.
Get a grip, Laz, were far better than that.
Royster Oyster
The Conglomerate of Neo-dislocating ant eaters.
Knights of the enormous dukey
Royster Oyster |In The World...
r...@rci.chi.Il.us |Peace, Love, and Happiness
Chicago, Ill |Nothing matters much
Acting "Board Pariah" |but this....
Phillip Lafleur
I admired your response to my post. I really did. But the sum effect of
my earlier remarks were to test the effects of insane negativity on a
passive bystander. Herb was my unfortunate victim. As you have seen, my
syntactical tactics were sucessful in that Herb took offense and left.
They were also effective in that you had such a negative reaction when
you were actually not involved in the discussion at all. Can you see
it? This is what tactical syntax is all about. The structuring of words
to create emotional response. It has been amazingly effective.
Lazarus
Phillip Lafleur
>
>Listen up, you Subgenius wannabe..Pink sucking neo-bobbies like you are a
>dime a dozen at the convienience store down the street, so my tip to you is
>to get your ass out of the sling and start shooting some shit lest ye end up
>covered in said shit.
>You fucking salad shooting moron, whats all this porky talk of "Begone!" I
>think you should get that metacarbo oscalator out of your anal caviaty and
>stick it in your eye where it might do some good, Ploppy!
>"Secretary to the Fever Germ"?!?!?! this sounds like you fancy yourself some
>kind of hip hop flip flop door drop spoomonger when all you are is some kind
>of fag paisley choirboy little googoo hen who cant keep hishands out of the
>braindrain tumor that Mondo Beyondo carries.
>Get a grip, Laz, were far better than that.
>
>Royster Oyster
>The Conglomerate of Neo-dislocating ant eaters.
>Knights of the enormous dukey
>
hit on the insane negativity concept. It is an interesting experiment.
Your post had very few actual "words" but it conveyed such a sense of
negative emotion that I was actually stunned momentarily. Bravo, sir! I
salute you. Your post was syntax minus semantics. Yes!!! I like it.
Lazarus