Which potato would you rather buy?
Steve from Colorado
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=exBEFCiWyW0
PaxPerPoten
> This kid would be a valuable addition to a survivalist community:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=exBEFCiWyW0
Excellent lesson on farm food chemical effects.
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I'm confused about potatoes nutritional value, because every expert I
hear says they have too much starch; maybe only sweet potatoes are
okay, etc.. Yet the fact is that people around the world, like
Ireland and Natives in Africa and South America depend on those
starchy root bulbs a lot.
I understand potatoes are good for potassium and with whole milk can
provide a survival diet. Taste good, with some butter, salt and
pepper, and gravy. Baked potato skins are one of my favorites.
Then here comes the nutritionist-dietitian saying no potatoes.
Steve from Colorado
> On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 23:45:56 -0700 (PDT), Steve from Colorado
>
My wife started a garden at our Boulder home and, as an experiment, I
threw some old, squishy potatoes in one section of the garden which
had started sprouting buds. Ever since, the potatoes have come up
every year for three years. The lesson from that is they seem to want
to grow in the Colorado soil at the 40th parallel, much like lettuce,
pumpkins, tomatoes, spinach, and squash. The fact that they like to
grow is a big plus in my view. I don't like trying to grow vegetables
and other produce that hates to grow. They also seem resistant to
bugs and critters.
Sue
I love, love, love potatoes and refuse to listen to any negative talk.
Hmph.
Sue
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Here too. They grow in the soil or straw. And you don't have to do anything.
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terryc
> Then here comes the nutritionist-dietitian saying no potatoes.
Sigh, NOW, you have a major problem that your body gets far too much
sugar(very fast energy) and too much starch(fast energy) and not enough
fibre(very slow energy). In modern society the body is continually
bombarded by sugar rushes and it is still kicking in the survival gene
that stores it away as fat.
In a survival situation, your energy intake will be so much less, so
eating potatos will not matter. Same as if you are doing major physicl
work each day.
The human body doesn't come with a "fuel tank is full" gauge.
robert bowman
> Then here comes the nutritionist-dietitian saying no potatoes.
nutritionist-dietitians are not survivalists. I think it was an article on
www.survivalblog.com today by a woman who had the right idea. Growing swiss
chard, tomatoes, asparagus, and so forth might be fun, but what you really
want are root crops, beans, corn, or grains that have some real caloric
content and don't require you to spend a week in the kitchen canning.
Sue
Now that's a diet I can get behind, but pickled? Juiced? I wonder if
he used butter. On some of these e-mail pass-alongs that ask a bunch
of silly questions I've seen one that asks "If you had to live on only
one food for a month what would it be?" I always answer 'potatoes'.
Sue
ne...@nowhere.org
>On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 12:06:29 -0700, ne...@nowhere.org wrote:
:snip:
>>Don't worry Sue, you can literally live off potatoes:
>>http://www.vimeo.com/23066546
>>
>>Newb
>
>Now that's a diet I can get behind, but pickled? Juiced? I wonder if
>he used butter.
Yes, sour cream, and the usual toppings. Meat toppings like chili
wasn't. The part I had a hard time with is eating 20 of them per day.
That wouldn't allow any time to do anything else ; )
>On some of these e-mail pass-alongs that ask a bunch
>of silly questions I've seen one that asks "If you had to live on only
>one food for a month what would it be?" I always answer 'potatoes'.
>Sue
I'd have to say beer. It's not just for breakfast anymore, you know.
Newb
David J. Hughes
If you do heavy physical labor, all day, everyday, and have a BMI under
20, go ahead and eat all the potatoes you want.
If you have a desk job, never walk anywhere you can drive or take public
transportation, spend much of you free time in front of the TV or
computer, and have been saying for yeas that you could stand to lose 30
pounds, you might want to limit your potato intake.
Potatoes, particularly when cooked and eaten with the skins, have many
good vitamins and minerals, but they are primarily starch.
Most people eat them fried, or with butter, sour cream, cheese, etc.
Lots of calories, lots of fat.
If you don't burn these off through exercise, your body is more than
happy to store them for future use. This is great, if you experience
occasional times of plenty between long lean times. Not so good if all
you have is times of plenty. You end up over weight, out of shape, with
a higher risk of developing insulin resistant diabetes.
terryc
> and have a BMI under 20,
Woops,please don't raise that medical pile of bullshit.
Gunner Asch
Potatos grow nicely as a cash crop in northern Michigan as well.
Posen , Michigan is quite a potato growing area.
45' parallel as I recall?
Gunner
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their taters from sprouting. This would have advantages to
the chef, not having a bag of sprouted taters. Also
advantage to the farmers, as happy home owner can't use the
farm taters for seed.
Yes, the girl does look and act smart. I couldn't make out
some of the audio.
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Stormin Mormon
think they are a good part of a balanced diet. With salt,
pepper, and butter in moderation. Margarine is OK, too.
Of course I just opened the "Margarine versus butter"
debate.
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Tell all that to this guy:
Watch the entire piece, it's less than 5 minutes long.
Newb
Sue
<cayoung61**spamblock##@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I've heard both sides of the argument, as to potatos. I
>think they are a good part of a balanced diet. With salt,
>pepper, and butter in moderation. Margarine is OK, too.
>
>Of course I just opened the "Margarine versus butter"
>debate.
After years of using margarine (cheaper) I now use butter (better - to
me). As for health???
Sue
Jack Boot
>I'm confused about potatoes nutritional value,
>because every expert I hear says they have too
>much....(etc)
I'm a "Meat & Potatoes Man". (burp)
French fries aren't as good for you as plain baked, boiled or microwaved
potato. Too many potatoes in your diet can be fattening. On the average,
most Americans eat over 100 pounds of potatoes a year!
Potatoes are very high in Vitamin C. Even potato chips, in spite of
their excessive fat, are a good source of vitamin C. Sailors of old used
potatoes as often as citrus fruit in order to prevent scurvy. Good thing
to know in a survival situation where Vit C is in short supply.
French fries made from commercially frozen potatoes usually contain
hydrogenated fats which are very bad for your health. Avoid hydrogenated
(trans) fat.
Potato starch isn't bad for your health unless you are diabetic or on a
severely restricted diet.
Potatoes are also a good source of fiber, iron and protein.
If you are Irish, you probably enjoy eating potatoes, a favorite in
Ireland. If you are Russian you probably drink potatoes in the form of
Vodka. Not much Vit C in Vodka. If you are a Microbiologist you probably
have used potatoes in the laboratory to grow fungi, many fungi love to
eat potatoes. Fungi and related microbes can be a problem for farmers
who grow potatoes.
Jack Boot
Steve from Colorado
And if you were a punk teenager you may have stuffed a potato up
somoene's exhaust pipe and watched with amusement when the car
wouldn't start. ;<)))
Steve from Colorado
> On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 09:10:26 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
>
> >I've heard both sides of the argument, as to potatos. I
> >think they are a good part of a balanced diet. With salt,
> >pepper, and butter in moderation. Margarine is OK, too.
>
> >Of course I just opened the "Margarine versus butter"
> >debate.
>
> After years of using margarine (cheaper) I now use butter (better - to
> me). As for health???
> Sue
From what I've heard and read, margarine is a petroleum-based product
that has zero nutritional value. Flies will avoid it, and IIRC it
will kill some living things.
David J. Hughes
Yeah, I know it's a flawed desciptor, but it works for 60 % of the
population as a way to describe relative body mass.
If I had a BMI of 20, I'd be on life support for acute starvation.
David J. Hughes
Nope, not petroleum based.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margarine
Real margarine, virtually unavailable today, was made from Beef Fat.
Oleomargarine is made from Vegetable oil.
What most people call "margarine" today are 'Spreads", made from
vegetable oils and skim milk.
There is also hydrogenated vegetable oil, commonly called shortening.
This is produced by chemically adding Hydrogen to vegetable oil at high
temperatures and pressure in the presence of a catalyst.
Modern production processes yield virtually all Cis bond shortening,
with very low levels of Trans bond shortening.
Sue
Thanks for looking this up. I was a bit skeptical of the claim.
Sue
robert bowman
> If you are Irish, you probably enjoy eating potatoes, a favorite in
> Ireland. If you are Russian you probably drink potatoes in the form of
> Vodka.
The Irish were one of the few European people to adopt the potato willingly.
Potatoes grew well and the Irish were hungry enough to try anything. In
Britain, France, Germany and Russia, it took some top down persuasion to
get the masses to eat a misshapen, heathen, root that caused leprosy,
syphilis, and God only knows what else.
Thomas
> debate.
Ginger is Margarine.