Improve, or transfer dependancy?
Stormin Mormon
ever prepare for the future?
During the 2003 power cut, we had freezing rain,
and I was without power four days. And a a poorly
insulated trailer gets cold to the core, in that time.
One family (barely knew them from church) lost
their phone with the power. Phone service through
the cable internet company. I heard through some
one else, and drove there with my generator. They
appreciated some heat, ran my generator to run
their furnace. The house came up from 45F to 70F,
in an hour or so. The next day I drove back, and
there was a note on the door that they had gone to
the public shelter. But no word as to which shelter.
None of my neighbors in the trailer park seemed
interested in having me wire my generator into their
furnace. The guy next door had a generator coming
from the fire dept to run a plug in space heater. I
suggested that wire into the furance made more
sense, but he wasn't interested. I could just imagine
that generator chugging under 1500 watt load so he
could warm one corner of one room. The lady across
the street thought it was too dangerous to wire into
the furnace. I guess she didn't know that I'd been
installing furnaces for three years at that moment.
On day four, I wired the generator into my furnace.
Shoulda done that earlier. Among other things, I
found that whoever put in my furnace had not used
a Romex connector where the wire goes through
the sheet metal. And, it was much more comfortable
than space heaters.
I'm never sure, if people are inspired to make their own
preps "hey, we could do that too!" and help themselves,
or if they just put me on the list of service providers.
I'd hate to be Young's Power and Light, with people
demanding where the hell are you, we're cold.
Some years after that, in 2006, a serious ice storm shut
down power in much of Buffalo NY area. I went to visit
some friends. They didn't have a mental picture of what
I meant by run the furnace off my generator. I had to
excuse myself from the conversation, and go run some
wires. When the heat started to blow out, then they
understood. I also ran their sump pump for a while,
the water was nearly up to the cellar floor. They must
have had drain tile all around, the sump ran a LONG
time.
I suggested to heat some dinner in the microwave. I
thought they had gas stove, so I didn't bring a gas
grill and couple bottles. Turns out they had electric
stove. Sigh. They insisted to go to dinner. Instead of
microwave some hot food. Over dinner, I mentioned
a couple things they could do for under $100 to
provide backup heat. But they weren't hearing me.
They were talking about asking the mortgage company
for a payment holiday so they could buy a big whole-
house generator.
I guess I do know one family who installed a wood
stove after the 1991 power cut. So, some people
do make improvements.
Does anyone ever "get the picture" and make some
preparations? Are sheeple that way forever?
--
Christopher A. Young
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.
Beachbum
> Does anyone ever learn from crisis? Does anyone
> ever prepare for the future?
>
>
> Does anyone ever "get the picture" and make some
> preparations? Are sheeple that way forever?
>
I believe most have a "lightning never strikes twice" mentality.
Originally, I am from the midwest, and every two to three years, one or
another river around Omaha would either freeze over and then jam up with
the spring thaw- or simply rise up due to torrential rains upstream,
flooding huge areas. Even so, there were 1000's of trailer parks and
cottages up and down the riverbanks, and every time they got flooded,
they would appear on the evening news- "in shock", proclaiming they
"never saw anything like it", and bemoaning the loss of "everything they
owned".
Funny thing, all those trailer homes...you know, on wheels, and even
with significant advance warning of the surge coming down river, I never
ONCE saw anyone hook up and pull their home to safer ground (yes, I know
there is plumbing and electrical to unhook, skirting to remove, and
maybe tires to air up or remount. Seems like a BIG, frequently losing,
gamble!).
Same goes for coastal areas, including here in Hawaii. You get a little
unusually high storm or wind driven surf, and people go begging for a
handout because they failed to prepare.
Here's another situation: People that live in houses at the bottom (or
partway up) steep hills/mountains. A boulder rolls through, or a mud
slide, and again- they are "shocked". Did they even consider the
possible effects of GRAVITY? (Which brings up the whole issue of why the
hell do the courts feel the upper landowner is somehow "responsible" to
prevent this from happening?)
Sorry, but if you CHOOSE to live in a particularly risky area and take
no precautions, you get ZERO sympathy from me. If you are not pro
actively looking out for yourself, rest assured no one else is.
None4U
"Stormin Mormon" <cayoung61**spamblock##@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>day outage in Jan. People are clueless. They wont put a plug in if its
>not contracted. Theyre scared and lack ability and knowledge. But, you
>need to quit running around trying to get everyone going with your
>generator. You cannot help those who choose to not be prepared. They dont
>want to be self sufficient. If your a victim you get free shit from ther
>gubment. And you can be irresponsible. Its easier to be stupid. Why cant
>you just get your own house up. Silence your generator or buy a Honda super
>quiet. Black out the windows with dark wool blankets and sit back with
>your 45 and drink a beer. What would of happened if this situation lasted
>much longer . Like a month or so. And people started stealing your shit.
>Or get pissed off and burn you out of your trailer.
Worse yet. The gubment might just declare your trailer a FEMA shelter.
Then see what happens to your shit.
None4U
"None4U" <nos...@nospam.none> wrote in message
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If you wan t to teach people survival . Charge them to attend. If they
show up and pay. Theyre serious. Just like this guy. See what he charges.
http://www.codylundin.com/
book...@yahoo.com
But see, if all around you are milking the system for freebies, seems
like you have the same opportunity. Seems like you are letting the
others get ahead of you line for freebies. Seems like you could opt
to get freebies even if you don't need them. Seems like you could get
your back up about the whole thing and decide to milk the system, too.
The system is being paid for by you, so aren't you suppose to get your
rights? If you've been paying into the Medicaid system with every
paycheck, aren't you entitled to use the program? If you've been
paying into Social Security with every pay check, aren't you entitled
to use it? We all know of people who disdain using Social Security
when they retire, but I think that's irresponsible.
Sure, some of these liberal programs for bums and illegals are
feel-good giveaways, but I say snag what you legally can before they
go belly up. bookburn
>
Stormin Mormon
but they don't make the news at 6 and 11.
--
Christopher A. Young
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"Beachbum" <northshor...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in
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Stormin Mormon
>
>All very very valid points. Last year i was within a
>quarter mile of a 6
>day outage in Jan. People are clueless. They wont put a
>plug in if its
>not contracted. Theyre scared and lack ability and
>knowledge.
CY: For sure. Plenty of people sitting in the light of a
candle, and freezing butt.
But, you
>need to quit running around trying to get everyone going
>with your
>generator. You cannot help those who choose to not be
>prepared. They dont
>want to be self sufficient.
CY: Yeah, I've cut way back on the superman routine, now.
Maybe one or two close friends, and that's all.
If your a victim you get free shit from ther
>gubment. And you can be irresponsible. Its easier to be
>stupid. Why cant
>you just get your own house up. Silence your generator or
>buy a Honda super
>quiet. Black out the windows with dark wool blankets and
>sit back with
>your 45 and drink a beer.
CY: There is a lot to be said for staying out of sight.
What would of happened if this situation lasted
>much longer . Like a month or so. And people started
>stealing your shit.
>Or get pissed off and burn you out of your trailer.
CY: I can imagine the people being angry that I was doing
better.
Worse yet. The gubment might just declare your trailer a
FEMA shelter.
Then see what happens to your shit.
CY: Just like Super Dome. I could get yelled at for handing
out water bottles, and the place could turn into a garbage
dump over night.
Stormin Mormon
person to take people out and show them how to eat
dandilions.
--
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Stormin Mormon
of self - determination by signing up.
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hal
<cayoung61**spamblock##@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Does anyone ever learn from crisis? Does anyone
>ever prepare for the future?
Your problem is you don't know anyone besides Mormons and trailer
trash.