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Stormin Mormon
Jan 31, 2013, 8:52:28 AM1/31/13
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Went to bed last night, the day was near 60F, and I had to roll down the
truck windows to and from service call. Radio says high winds, and sharply
colder over night.
Woke about 5:45 AM. Cold. I noticed the night light bulb had burned out. Was
it that, or was the power out? I reached up to the light switch for the main
bedroom lights. Flip it up. No light. Reach for the flashlight on the night
stand, and turn it on. Got out of bed, and go to the bathroom. No night
light. Switch. No ceiling light, either.
Went back to the bedroom. Open the box with the LED desk lamp my sister gave
me for Christmas. Had batteries in it. Turn it on. Figured I'd tell her
later I used her light, she would appreciate that.
Check indoor outdoor thermometer. 58 indoors, 36 outdoors. Use the LED light
to go to the kitchen. Light a couple burners on the stove. Open the door to
outside. No one has light on, any where up the street, that I can see. The
cold air blows in the screen. I look at the tree branches overhead, they are
blowing to and fro. Put a board in the hole! Close the door.
I hung my propane lantern from the ceiling in my bedroom, and lit it up.
Figured that's light and heat both. I also knew it would be a beacon in the
harbor, tell everyone that I've got light. I decided to take the chance.
Crime isn't too bad, and it's the first hour or so of the power cut.
Remembering power cut 2003, I know that one way to warm up is a hot shower.
Gas water heater, and the gas is still on. I noticed a candle in a jar, on
the counter by the sink. For power cuts. Well, this qualifies. Light that
up.
Remembering the new Red Dawn movie, I realized I needed intel and government
approved news. I took my weather radio (had AM / FM bands) and put batteries
in it. The power is out for 60,000 customers, and expected back on some time
this morning.
The hot shower helped me warm up.
I decided to go to McDonalds for a couple breakfast sandwiches with coupon.
Figured to call and see if the power is on. I could not find the phone
number, in any of three or four phone books. Go figure.
About that moment, 6:50 or so, the power came back on.
So, I put on my coat, and drove to McDonalds. Why not, I have coupons, and I
enjoy now and again for someone else to do the cooking.
What could have done better? I later find that I'd left my thermostat at
58F, from when I went out to a service call yesterday. No wonder it's cold!
I was low on ice cubes, could have kept the bin more full. Need also a good
quality AM radio for batteries. The weather radio with AA cells and two inch
speaker wasn't doing the job. Maybe later today I'll run the generator for a
while, just to be sure it runs.
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.
truck windows to and from service call. Radio says high winds, and sharply
colder over night.
Woke about 5:45 AM. Cold. I noticed the night light bulb had burned out. Was
it that, or was the power out? I reached up to the light switch for the main
bedroom lights. Flip it up. No light. Reach for the flashlight on the night
stand, and turn it on. Got out of bed, and go to the bathroom. No night
light. Switch. No ceiling light, either.
Went back to the bedroom. Open the box with the LED desk lamp my sister gave
me for Christmas. Had batteries in it. Turn it on. Figured I'd tell her
later I used her light, she would appreciate that.
Check indoor outdoor thermometer. 58 indoors, 36 outdoors. Use the LED light
to go to the kitchen. Light a couple burners on the stove. Open the door to
outside. No one has light on, any where up the street, that I can see. The
cold air blows in the screen. I look at the tree branches overhead, they are
blowing to and fro. Put a board in the hole! Close the door.
I hung my propane lantern from the ceiling in my bedroom, and lit it up.
Figured that's light and heat both. I also knew it would be a beacon in the
harbor, tell everyone that I've got light. I decided to take the chance.
Crime isn't too bad, and it's the first hour or so of the power cut.
Remembering power cut 2003, I know that one way to warm up is a hot shower.
Gas water heater, and the gas is still on. I noticed a candle in a jar, on
the counter by the sink. For power cuts. Well, this qualifies. Light that
up.
Remembering the new Red Dawn movie, I realized I needed intel and government
approved news. I took my weather radio (had AM / FM bands) and put batteries
in it. The power is out for 60,000 customers, and expected back on some time
this morning.
The hot shower helped me warm up.
I decided to go to McDonalds for a couple breakfast sandwiches with coupon.
Figured to call and see if the power is on. I could not find the phone
number, in any of three or four phone books. Go figure.
About that moment, 6:50 or so, the power came back on.
So, I put on my coat, and drove to McDonalds. Why not, I have coupons, and I
enjoy now and again for someone else to do the cooking.
What could have done better? I later find that I'd left my thermostat at
58F, from when I went out to a service call yesterday. No wonder it's cold!
I was low on ice cubes, could have kept the bin more full. Need also a good
quality AM radio for batteries. The weather radio with AA cells and two inch
speaker wasn't doing the job. Maybe later today I'll run the generator for a
while, just to be sure it runs.
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.
Stormin Mormon
Jan 31, 2013, 3:32:59 PM1/31/13
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Went to bed last night, the day was near 60F, and I had
to roll down the truck windows to and from service call.
Radio says high winds, and sharply colder over night.
Woke about 5:45 AM. Cold. I noticed the night light bulb
had burned out. Was it that, or was the power out? I
reached up to the light switch for the main bedroom lights.
Flip it up. No light. Reach for the flashlight on the night
stand, and turn it on. Got out of bed, and go to the bath-
to roll down the truck windows to and from service call.
Radio says high winds, and sharply colder over night.
Woke about 5:45 AM. Cold. I noticed the night light bulb
had burned out. Was it that, or was the power out? I
reached up to the light switch for the main bedroom lights.
Flip it up. No light. Reach for the flashlight on the night
room. No night light. Switch. No ceiling light, either.
Went back to the bedroom. Open the box with the LED
desk lamp my sister gave me for Christmas. Had batteries
in it. Turn it on. Figured I'd tell her later I used her light,
she would appreciate that.
Check indoor outdoor thermometer. 58 indoors, 36 out-
Went back to the bedroom. Open the box with the LED
desk lamp my sister gave me for Christmas. Had batteries
in it. Turn it on. Figured I'd tell her later I used her light,
she would appreciate that.
doors. Use the LED light to go to the kitchen. Light a
couple burners on the stove. Open the door to outside.
No one has light on, any where up the street, that I can
see. The cold air blows in the screen. I look at the tree
branches overhead, they are blowing to and fro. Put a
board in the hole! Close the door.
I hung my propane lantern from the ceiling in my bedroom,
and lit it up. Figured that's light and heat both. I also knew
it would be a beacon in the harbor, tell everyone that I've
got light. I decided to take the chance. Crime isn't too bad,
and it's the first hour or so of the power cut.
Remembering power cut 2003, I know that one way to warm
up is a hot shower. Gas water heater, and the gas is still on.
I noticed a candle in a jar, on the counter by the sink. For
power cuts. Well, this qualifies. Light that up.
Remembering the new Red Dawn movie, I realized I needed
intel and government approved news. I took my weather
radio (had AM / FM bands) and put batteries in it. The
power is out for 60,000 customers, and expected back
on some time this morning.
The hot shower helped me warm up.
I decided to go to McDonalds for a couple breakfast sand-
couple burners on the stove. Open the door to outside.
No one has light on, any where up the street, that I can
see. The cold air blows in the screen. I look at the tree
branches overhead, they are blowing to and fro. Put a
board in the hole! Close the door.
I hung my propane lantern from the ceiling in my bedroom,
and lit it up. Figured that's light and heat both. I also knew
it would be a beacon in the harbor, tell everyone that I've
got light. I decided to take the chance. Crime isn't too bad,
and it's the first hour or so of the power cut.
Remembering power cut 2003, I know that one way to warm
up is a hot shower. Gas water heater, and the gas is still on.
I noticed a candle in a jar, on the counter by the sink. For
power cuts. Well, this qualifies. Light that up.
Remembering the new Red Dawn movie, I realized I needed
intel and government approved news. I took my weather
radio (had AM / FM bands) and put batteries in it. The
power is out for 60,000 customers, and expected back
on some time this morning.
The hot shower helped me warm up.
wiches with coupon. Figured to call and see if the power is
on. I could not find the phone number, in any of three or
four phone books. Go figure.
About that moment, 6:50 or so, the power came back on.
So, I put on my coat, and drove to McDonalds. Why not,
I have coupons, and I enjoy now and again for someone
else to do the cooking.
What could have done better? I later find that I'd left my
thermostat at 58F, from when I went out to a service call
yesterday. No wonder it's cold! I was low on ice cubes,
could have kept the bin more full. Need also a good quality
AM radio which runs on batteries. The weather radio with
on. I could not find the phone number, in any of three or
four phone books. Go figure.
About that moment, 6:50 or so, the power came back on.
So, I put on my coat, and drove to McDonalds. Why not,
I have coupons, and I enjoy now and again for someone
else to do the cooking.
What could have done better? I later find that I'd left my
thermostat at 58F, from when I went out to a service call
yesterday. No wonder it's cold! I was low on ice cubes,
could have kept the bin more full. Need also a good quality
Debbie
Jan 31, 2013, 3:45:52 PM1/31/13
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On 1/31/2013 3:32 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
> Went to bed last night, the day was near 60F, and I had
> to roll down the truck windows to and from service call.
> Radio says high winds, and sharply colder over night.
>
> W
>
>
>
You already posted this at 8:52 this morning.
> Went to bed last night, the day was near 60F, and I had
> to roll down the truck windows to and from service call.
> Radio says high winds, and sharply colder over night.
>
> W
>
>
>
Stormin Mormon
Jan 31, 2013, 4:30:35 PM1/31/13
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Didn't show up on my usenet provider.
Didn't see any replies.
So, I sent it again. Oops, didn't know
you saw it.
"Debbie" <d...@nospam.net> wrote in message
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Didn't see any replies.
So, I sent it again. Oops, didn't know
you saw it.
"Debbie" <d...@nospam.net> wrote in message
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On 1/31/2013 3:32 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
> Went to bed last night, the day was near 60F, and I had
> to roll down the truck windows to and from service call.
> Radio says high winds, and sharply colder over night.
>
>
>
> Went to bed last night, the day was near 60F, and I had
> to roll down the truck windows to and from service call.
> Radio says high winds, and sharply colder over night.
>
>
>
John
Jan 31, 2013, 5:05:32 PM1/31/13
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Spend a little more and get a radio with crank and/or solar power - some of the Kaito's (Voyager Pro, for example with AM/FM/SW/weather bands) can use AA cells or charge the internal rechargeable battery via solar, crank, or plug-in charger. I leave mine in a sunny window most of the year and the battery is always charged.
Stormin Mormon<cayoung61***spam...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Went to bed last night, the day was near 60F, and I had
> to roll down the truck windows to and from service call.
> Radio says high winds, and sharply colder over night.
> Woke about 5:45 AM. Cold. I noticed the night light bulb
> had burned out. Was it that, or was the power out? I
Stormin Mormon<cayoung61***spam...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Went to bed last night, the day was near 60F, and I had
> to roll down the truck windows to and from service call.
> Radio says high winds, and sharply colder over night.
> Woke about 5:45 AM. Cold. I noticed the night light bulb
> had burned out. Was it that, or was the power out? I
> Need also a good quality
> AM radio which runs on batteries. The weather radio with
> AA cells and two inch speaker wasn't doing the job.
> Maybe later today I'll run the generator for a while, just to
> be sure it runs.
Checked my generator on Tuesday before the wind and thunderstorms came in on Wednesday. Much better to check it in advance.
> AM radio which runs on batteries. The weather radio with
> AA cells and two inch speaker wasn't doing the job.
> Maybe later today I'll run the generator for a while, just to
> be sure it runs.
Stormin Mormon
Jan 31, 2013, 5:26:52 PM1/31/13
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Total brain failure. I've got two Eton 300, both in ammo cans for EMF
protection. Forgot I had them. Thanks for the excellent reminder.
I also should have checked generator before the storm. Sigh. I'll get it
right, some day.
"John" <a...@wizardanswers.us> wrote in message
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protection. Forgot I had them. Thanks for the excellent reminder.
I also should have checked generator before the storm. Sigh. I'll get it
right, some day.
"John" <a...@wizardanswers.us> wrote in message
news:g_adnaXGXeAcd5fM...@giganews.com...
Spend a little more and get a radio with crank and/or solar power - some of
the Kaito's (Voyager Pro, for example with AM/FM/SW/weather bands) can use
AA cells or charge the internal rechargeable battery via solar, crank, or
plug-in charger. I leave mine in a sunny window most of the year and the
battery is always charged.
Stormin Mormon<cayoung61***spam...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Need also a good quality
> AM radio which runs on batteries. The weather radio with
> AA cells and two inch speaker wasn't doing the job.
the Kaito's (Voyager Pro, for example with AM/FM/SW/weather bands) can use
AA cells or charge the internal rechargeable battery via solar, crank, or
plug-in charger. I leave mine in a sunny window most of the year and the
battery is always charged.
Stormin Mormon<cayoung61***spam...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Need also a good quality
> AM radio which runs on batteries. The weather radio with
> AA cells and two inch speaker wasn't doing the job.
Winston_Smith
Jan 31, 2013, 8:33:19 PM1/31/13
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On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 08:52:28 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
<cayoung61***spam...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I hung my propane lantern from the ceiling in my bedroom, and lit it up.
>Figured that's light and heat both. I also knew it would be a beacon in the
>harbor, tell everyone that I've got light. I decided to take the chance.
>Crime isn't too bad, and it's the first hour or so of the power cut.
Don't you think you are being just a tad theatrical ?
<cayoung61***spam...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I hung my propane lantern from the ceiling in my bedroom, and lit it up.
>Figured that's light and heat both. I also knew it would be a beacon in the
>harbor, tell everyone that I've got light. I decided to take the chance.
>Crime isn't too bad, and it's the first hour or so of the power cut.
>Remembering the new Red Dawn movie, I realized I needed intel and government
>approved news.
rbowman
Jan 31, 2013, 9:52:57 PM1/31/13
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Stormin Mormon wrote:
> What could have done better? I later find that I'd left my thermostat at
> 58F, from when I went out to a service call yesterday. No wonder it's
> cold!
Gimme a break. If it gets over 60 in my hovel I figure it's a heat wave.
> What could have done better? I later find that I'd left my thermostat at
> 58F, from when I went out to a service call yesterday. No wonder it's
> cold!
Stormin Mormon
Jan 31, 2013, 11:18:19 PM1/31/13
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It's all in the perspective. I spent the day
without coffee, tea, alcohol, sex, gunfire,
or using four wheel drive.
"rbowman" <bow...@montana.com> wrote in message
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without coffee, tea, alcohol, sex, gunfire,
or using four wheel drive.
"rbowman" <bow...@montana.com> wrote in message
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Steve from Colorado
Feb 1, 2013, 12:14:12 AM2/1/13
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On Thursday, January 31, 2013 9:18:19 PM UTC-7, Stormin Mormon wrote:
> It's all in the perspective. I spent the day
>
> without coffee, tea, alcohol, sex, gunfire,
>
> or using four wheel drive.
>
>
>
> Christopher A. Young
>
> Learn more about Jesus
>
> www.lds.org
>
I indulged in all of those things, except I substituted a brownie for the tea, which is legal in Colorado.
> It's all in the perspective. I spent the day
>
> without coffee, tea, alcohol, sex, gunfire,
>
> or using four wheel drive.
>
>
>
> Christopher A. Young
>
> Learn more about Jesus
>
> www.lds.org
>
gregz
Feb 1, 2013, 12:52:03 AM2/1/13
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normally run space heater in living room zone, for comfort in winter, but
have not tested out new cat, for safety.
Greg
Stormin Mormon
Feb 1, 2013, 8:01:45 AM2/1/13
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As written, it looks like you have a cat that plugs in,
and heats your room.
How many watts is your new cat? Is the cat filament,
ceramic, or humane society rescue?
I think it was Mark Twain who commented that a cat
who jumps on a hot stove will never jump on a hot stove
again. (who can finish the quote?)
"gregz" <ze...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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and heats your room.
How many watts is your new cat? Is the cat filament,
ceramic, or humane society rescue?
I think it was Mark Twain who commented that a cat
who jumps on a hot stove will never jump on a hot stove
again. (who can finish the quote?)
"gregz" <ze...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Jim Wilkins
Feb 1, 2013, 8:47:32 AM2/1/13
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"Stormin Mormon" <cayoung61***spam...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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around the house and search drawers in the dark.
An insulated vest and bib overalls keep you warm without interfering
with your hands while you cook or wash dishes. Walmart sells lined
flannel shirts that add ~10F to my temperature tolerance. I'm
comfortable with warm hands at 58F right now in the shirt and vest.
I switched to a laptop and keep my copper-pair dialup partly because
they usually still work during blackouts, and the laptop runs a long
time from a 12V battery and 100W cigarette-lighter inverter. Even with
a large external monitor the laptop draws only 1/4 the wattage of my
desktop and runs a lot longer on a UPS. It's less than 4X because the
low-end UPS uses a fair amount internally. It's no-load run time is
less than an hour.
The most useful weather forecasts for my location are the NWS radar
images which show oncoming precipitation, so I know when to repair and
when to tie a tarp and plywood over storm damage. My Internet backup
is a prepaid Broadband2Go cellular modem that costs nothing per month
unless I activate it, generally only for Windows and program updates.
The only real problem with it is Sprint's limited coverage, which
isn't an issue at home.
http://www.virginmobileusa.com/mobile-broadband-plans/broadband-2-go/overview/
news:YxAOs.401381$dA4.2...@fed14.iad...
>
> What could have done better?
Solar driveway markers (minus the stake) give enough light to walk
> What could have done better?
around the house and search drawers in the dark.
An insulated vest and bib overalls keep you warm without interfering
with your hands while you cook or wash dishes. Walmart sells lined
flannel shirts that add ~10F to my temperature tolerance. I'm
comfortable with warm hands at 58F right now in the shirt and vest.
I switched to a laptop and keep my copper-pair dialup partly because
they usually still work during blackouts, and the laptop runs a long
time from a 12V battery and 100W cigarette-lighter inverter. Even with
a large external monitor the laptop draws only 1/4 the wattage of my
desktop and runs a lot longer on a UPS. It's less than 4X because the
low-end UPS uses a fair amount internally. It's no-load run time is
less than an hour.
The most useful weather forecasts for my location are the NWS radar
images which show oncoming precipitation, so I know when to repair and
when to tie a tarp and plywood over storm damage. My Internet backup
is a prepaid Broadband2Go cellular modem that costs nothing per month
unless I activate it, generally only for Windows and program updates.
The only real problem with it is Sprint's limited coverage, which
isn't an issue at home.
http://www.virginmobileusa.com/mobile-broadband-plans/broadband-2-go/overview/
rbowman
Feb 1, 2013, 10:08:26 AM2/1/13
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gregz wrote:
> 66 to 75 is my zone. Had to run the air-conditioning two days ago. I
> normally run space heater in living room zone, for comfort in winter, but
> have not tested out new cat, for safety.
My summer zone is whatever matches the outside ambient.
> 66 to 75 is my zone. Had to run the air-conditioning two days ago. I
> normally run space heater in living room zone, for comfort in winter, but
> have not tested out new cat, for safety.
Stormin Mormon
Feb 1, 2013, 10:24:47 AM2/1/13
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Solar driveway markers (minus the stake) give enough light to walk
around the house and search drawers in the dark.
be able to burn some fuel to make both light and heat. Most of my power cuts
are in the winter.
An insulated vest and bib overalls keep you warm without interfering
with your hands while you cook or wash dishes. Walmart sells lined
flannel shirts that add ~10F to my temperature tolerance. I'm
comfortable with warm hands at 58F right now in the shirt and vest.
have put on a coat and wool pull over hat.
I switched to a laptop and keep my copper-pair dialup partly because
they usually still work during blackouts, and the laptop runs a long
time from a 12V battery and 100W cigarette-lighter inverter. Even with
a large external monitor the laptop draws only 1/4 the wattage of my
desktop and runs a lot longer on a UPS. It's less than 4X because the
low-end UPS uses a fair amount internally. It's no-load run time is
less than an hour.
laptop computer. Been meaning to restore that back to win 98 some day.
Boredom was a bit of a factor.
The most useful weather forecasts for my location are the NWS radar
images which show oncoming precipitation, so I know when to repair and
when to tie a tarp and plywood over storm damage. My Internet backup
is a prepaid Broadband2Go cellular modem that costs nothing per month
unless I activate it, generally only for Windows and program updates.
The only real problem with it is Sprint's limited coverage, which
isn't an issue at home.
http://www.virginmobileusa.com/mobile-broadband-plans/broadband-2-go/overview/
into that, but don't have the budget at the moment. Good ideas, thank you.
Joe AutoDrill
Feb 1, 2013, 10:39:08 AM2/1/13
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On 1/31/2013 3:32 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
> Went to bed last night, the day was near 60F, and I had
CLIP
Ya know... I read this and said, "Thank God we didn't lose power here.
It's too cold and I'm too tired to deal with it this week." ...10
minutes later, my wife called and told me power went out.
It was only out for a few hours this time but we are better prepared
after the recent superhurristorm Sandy and last year's surprise October
snow.
My biggest weakness is a heat source but it's in the works. I was going
to use a double 55gal barrel stove to do it, but I think I may go with a
more permanent solution that doesn't endanger my home from fire or CO2
as much.
Having just spent 10 days in West Africa where clean water doesn't
really exist, power is unheard of and staying warm is a concept that you
try to avoid, I'm much more comfortable planning for the stupid masses
that may riot than I am planning for the lack of comforts.
Stay tuned...
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Stormin Mormon
Feb 1, 2013, 11:55:50 AM2/1/13
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Glad to read that at least one person out there in
the Usenet ether read my situation report, and
decided to improve at least something. That's
the main reason I post, is to encourage people to
do better. As you are doing. Thank you.
"Joe AutoDrill" <auto...@yunx.com> wrote in message
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the Usenet ether read my situation report, and
decided to improve at least something. That's
the main reason I post, is to encourage people to
do better. As you are doing. Thank you.
"Joe AutoDrill" <auto...@yunx.com> wrote in message
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Jim Wilkins
Feb 1, 2013, 1:43:03 PM2/1/13
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"Stormin Mormon" <cayoung61***spam...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I wrote
> Solar driveway markers (minus the stake) give enough light to walk
> around the house and search drawers in the dark.
> CY: yes, that is good idea. Well, for warm days. For cold days, it's
> nice to
> be able to burn some fuel to make both light and heat. Most of my
> power cuts
> are in the winter.
I have a wood stove for heat, hot water and cooking, but they are
> around the house and search drawers in the dark.
> CY: yes, that is good idea. Well, for warm days. For cold days, it's
> nice to
> be able to burn some fuel to make both light and heat. Most of my
> power cuts
> are in the winter.
expensive to install and labor-intensive to operate.
> I switched to a laptop and keep my copper-pair dialup partly because
> they usually still work during blackouts,
>
> CY: That's a thought. I do have copper phone wire. And do have
> antique
> laptop computer. Been meaning to restore that back to win 98 some
> day.
> Boredom was a bit of a factor.
I paid $40 for a 1.86GHz laptop running XP, expecting it to be a parts
> antique
> laptop computer. Been meaning to restore that back to win 98 some
> day.
> Boredom was a bit of a factor.
spare for this one. However $20 fixed all its problems.
http://www.machinaelectronics.com/store/keylab/
If it was on a business network, open Computer Name and change Domain
to Workgroup.
http://www.gamerswithjobs.com/node/48556
$200 - $250 will buy a pretty decent business trade-in, for example:
http://www.amazon.com/Dell-D630-Latitude/dp/B006C1Q3IO
XP machines like this one are considerably cheaper.
Stormin Mormon
Feb 1, 2013, 1:52:10 PM2/1/13
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"Jim Wilkins" <murat...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:keh2a9$2ca$1...@dont-email.me...
guy says that a wood stove would triple my
insurance. So, that idea isn't going to happen.
I have a knack for bringing home wood, but
the cost would exceed any savings.
> I switched to a laptop and keep my copper-pair dialup partly because
> they usually still work during blackouts,
>
> CY: That's a thought. I do have copper phone wire. And do have
> antique
> laptop computer. Been meaning to restore that back to win 98 some
> day.
> Boredom was a bit of a factor.
I paid $40 for a 1.86GHz laptop running XP, expecting it to be a parts
spare for this one. However $20 fixed all its problems.
http://www.machinaelectronics.com/store/keylab/
If it was on a business network, open Computer Name and change Domain
to Workgroup.
http://www.gamerswithjobs.com/node/48556
CY: That sounds like you did good. I
generally don't have that kind of luck.
$200 - $250 will buy a pretty decent business trade-in, for example:
http://www.amazon.com/Dell-D630-Latitude/dp/B006C1Q3IO
XP machines like this one are considerably cheaper.
CY: Wish I had some budget for that. Sigh.
This is the slow season, and money just isn't
available.
news:keh2a9$2ca$1...@dont-email.me...
> CY: yes, that is good idea. Well, for warm days. For cold days, it's
> nice to
> be able to burn some fuel to make both light and heat. Most of my
> power cuts
> are in the winter.
I have a wood stove for heat, hot water and cooking, but they are
expensive to install and labor-intensive to operate.
CY: I can believe both of those. My insurance
> nice to
> be able to burn some fuel to make both light and heat. Most of my
> power cuts
> are in the winter.
I have a wood stove for heat, hot water and cooking, but they are
expensive to install and labor-intensive to operate.
guy says that a wood stove would triple my
insurance. So, that idea isn't going to happen.
I have a knack for bringing home wood, but
the cost would exceed any savings.
> I switched to a laptop and keep my copper-pair dialup partly because
> they usually still work during blackouts,
>
> CY: That's a thought. I do have copper phone wire. And do have
> antique
> laptop computer. Been meaning to restore that back to win 98 some
> day.
> Boredom was a bit of a factor.
I paid $40 for a 1.86GHz laptop running XP, expecting it to be a parts
spare for this one. However $20 fixed all its problems.
http://www.machinaelectronics.com/store/keylab/
If it was on a business network, open Computer Name and change Domain
to Workgroup.
http://www.gamerswithjobs.com/node/48556
generally don't have that kind of luck.
$200 - $250 will buy a pretty decent business trade-in, for example:
http://www.amazon.com/Dell-D630-Latitude/dp/B006C1Q3IO
XP machines like this one are considerably cheaper.
This is the slow season, and money just isn't
available.
Winston_Smith
Feb 1, 2013, 2:21:45 PM2/1/13
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On Fri, 1 Feb 2013 13:52:10 -0500, "Stormin Mormon" wrote:
>"Jim Wilkins" <murat...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>"Jim Wilkins" <murat...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>I have a wood stove for heat, hot water and cooking, but they are
>>expensive to install and labor-intensive to operate.
>CY: I can believe both of those. My insurance
>guy says that a wood stove would triple my
>insurance. So, that idea isn't going to happen.
>I have a knack for bringing home wood, but
>the cost would exceed any savings.
There are outside boiler/furnaces that produce hot water like any
>>expensive to install and labor-intensive to operate.
>CY: I can believe both of those. My insurance
>guy says that a wood stove would triple my
>insurance. So, that idea isn't going to happen.
>I have a knack for bringing home wood, but
>the cost would exceed any savings.
other system. Since they are remote, they shouldn't be considered any
additional fire hazard. Worth looking into if you are actually
serious.
Joe AutoDrill
Feb 1, 2013, 2:24:22 PM2/1/13
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can't pump the hot water to heat the house... Thus you still need a
generator or solar source of power, etc.
Ray Keller
Feb 1, 2013, 3:28:12 PM2/1/13
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news:GDUOs.7819$dz5....@newsfe07.iad...
ROTFLMAO
> On 2/1/2013 2:21 PM, Winston_Smith wrote:
>> On Fri, 1 Feb 2013 13:52:10 -0500, "Stormin Mormon" wrote:
>>> "Jim Wilkins" <murat...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>>>> I have a wood stove for heat, hot water and cooking, but they are
>>>> expensive to install and labor-intensive to operate.
>>
>>> CY: I can believe both of those. My insurance
>>> guy says that a wood stove would triple my
>>> insurance. So, that idea isn't going to happen.
>>> I have a knack for bringing home wood, but
>>> the cost would exceed any savings.
>>
>> There are outside boiler/furnaces that produce hot water like any
>> other system. Since they are remote, they shouldn't be considered any
>> additional fire hazard. Worth looking into if you are actually
>> serious.
>>
>
Stupid Moron serious?
>> On Fri, 1 Feb 2013 13:52:10 -0500, "Stormin Mormon" wrote:
>>> "Jim Wilkins" <murat...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>>>> I have a wood stove for heat, hot water and cooking, but they are
>>>> expensive to install and labor-intensive to operate.
>>
>>> CY: I can believe both of those. My insurance
>>> guy says that a wood stove would triple my
>>> insurance. So, that idea isn't going to happen.
>>> I have a knack for bringing home wood, but
>>> the cost would exceed any savings.
>>
>> There are outside boiler/furnaces that produce hot water like any
>> other system. Since they are remote, they shouldn't be considered any
>> additional fire hazard. Worth looking into if you are actually
>> serious.
>>
>
ROTFLMAO
Winston_Smith
Feb 1, 2013, 4:52:59 PM2/1/13
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On Fri, 1 Feb 2013 13:28:12 -0700, "Ray Keller"wrote:
>"Joe AutoDrill" wrote
years, repeatedly asking what sort of firearm he should buy. As yet he
has zero. He regularly asks about what sort of survival supplies he
should have. As yet he says he has zero. And then, most of his
extensive survival experience seems to come from movies and old TV
shows that he quotes at length. Heck, a generic one hour power outage
has become a life and death struggle in this thread. How cold can a
house get in one hour?
I also wonder about that triple the premiums deal. If the installation
is made using approved equipment, conforms to all zoning and building
code regulations, and has been signed off by a building inspector
and/or installed by a licensed contractor, it should be considered
safe. The insurance company themselves should have guidelines for what
they consider a safe installation. To just rule out a whole technology
with a glib comment doesn't sound real. More likely it would be more
work than the insurance salesman cared to do. Or Stormin' made up one
more excuse for talking big and having zero preparedness.
>"Joe AutoDrill" wrote
>> On 2/1/2013 2:21 PM, Winston_Smith wrote:
>>> On Fri, 1 Feb 2013 13:52:10 -0500, "Stormin Mormon" wrote:
>>>> "Jim Wilkins" wrote in message
>>> On Fri, 1 Feb 2013 13:52:10 -0500, "Stormin Mormon" wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I have a wood stove for heat, hot water and cooking, but they are
>>>>> expensive to install and labor-intensive to operate.
>>>
>>>> CY: My insurance
>>>>> I have a wood stove for heat, hot water and cooking, but they are
>>>>> expensive to install and labor-intensive to operate.
>>>
>>>> guy says that a wood stove would triple my
>>>> insurance.
>>>
>>>> insurance.
>>>
>>> There are outside boiler/furnaces that produce hot water like any
>>> other system. Since they are remote, they shouldn't be considered any
>>> additional fire hazard. Worth looking into if you are actually
>>> serious.
>>
> Stupid Moron serious?
>ROTFLMAO
Well, we do have to remember that he has been posting here for ten
>>> other system. Since they are remote, they shouldn't be considered any
>>> additional fire hazard. Worth looking into if you are actually
>>> serious.
>>
> Stupid Moron serious?
>ROTFLMAO
years, repeatedly asking what sort of firearm he should buy. As yet he
has zero. He regularly asks about what sort of survival supplies he
should have. As yet he says he has zero. And then, most of his
extensive survival experience seems to come from movies and old TV
shows that he quotes at length. Heck, a generic one hour power outage
has become a life and death struggle in this thread. How cold can a
house get in one hour?
I also wonder about that triple the premiums deal. If the installation
is made using approved equipment, conforms to all zoning and building
code regulations, and has been signed off by a building inspector
and/or installed by a licensed contractor, it should be considered
safe. The insurance company themselves should have guidelines for what
they consider a safe installation. To just rule out a whole technology
with a glib comment doesn't sound real. More likely it would be more
work than the insurance salesman cared to do. Or Stormin' made up one
more excuse for talking big and having zero preparedness.
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