Well, maybe this is surrealism !!

[Brandon J. Freels]

I especially like "Voorgevoel" and "Onverwacht bezoek".

Hans Spiegeler <hspi...@wanadoo.nl> wrote in message
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> Look on www.kunstkontakt.nl/spiegeler
>
> and maybe you want to respond?
> then: hspi...@wanadoo.nl
>
> Wish you most surrealistic greetings.
> Hans Spiegeler
>
>

[Brandon J. Freels]

john adams wrote
> Nice work. The themes remind me of something that i can't quite place...

Reminds me of Chirico... maybe a very suttle tab of Magritte.

[Hans Spiegeler]

[Hans Spiegeler]

It's obvious where the inspiration comes from.
I like the pittura metafysica more then surrealism actually, but there is
little information about it. I'm looking for good hints.
If you like to see some more works, go to:
www.kunstkontakt.nl/bas/hansspiegeler

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[Brandon J. Freels]

One of the main themes seems to be the inanimate becoming animate. A sort of
anthropomorphism or animism of objects.

Wedding portraits with invisible people. "De Kennisgeving" and "De Receptie"
are very nice. They remind me of a scene from L'Age D'Or.

And I've always found those old record players, like in "De Oase," to be
very inspiring. Is that a flower playing music, or am I just imagination
things?

Hans Spiegeler wrote

> I like the pittura metafysica more then surrealism actually, but there is
> little information about it. I'm looking for good hints.

I have had the same trouble with information about pittura metafysica.
Chirico's own writings are about as good as it gets.

[Brandon J. Freels]

Maybe Hans has some sort of psychological connection with fashion attire?
Who knows. Fetishism? Does it matter? Whatever 'source' he has for
re-arranging reality [with empty clothing, clothing racks, a coat hanger]
can't be nearly as impressive as the actual action of re-arranging
reality --- or should I say re-inventing.

john adams wrote
> The empty clothing posing as characters, the lamps, the clothes racks,
etc. - these
> are what remind me of what i cant seem to place, aside from things like
Chirico's
> glove or Magritte's various objects. Is that theme drawn from something
specific, or
> could i have seen those paintings before?

[kristina]

I'd have to say most of it was too familiar for me, but I quite liked:
"Ochtendvroeg".
Something intriguing about that bed, and it has a freshness of sorts.

kristina.

Speaking of very tight artworks like this, and Magritte, and De Chirico, and
on and on, and of course Dali....has anyone ever questioned the possible
"contrived nature" and planning of the work? I am by no means saying that
these works are not in the surreal vain...however, i cannot think of
anything more personally stifling to the actual process of exploration than
painting one tiny brushstroke after another like a mathematical plan....what
does everyone else think. surrealism is about the journey for me....so it
would seem somewhat ludicrous to stop that actual process....

I could never paint things like this, or like Magritte etc...they would bore
me senseless, but more than that, I am not capable of such planned
approaches (I'd rip my hair out before finishing it) and strict formula.
Again, personal thoughts here....wondering what everyone else thinks.

Brandon J. Freels <fre...@teleport.com> wrote in message
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> I especially like "Voorgevoel" and "Onverwacht bezoek".
>
> Hans Spiegeler <hspi...@wanadoo.nl> wrote in message
> news:83ucc2$v2e$1...@buty.wanadoo.nl...

[Hans Spiegeler]

About the planning of the work, that has nothing to do with surrealism but
everything with just hard work and labour. It's by no means a surrealistic
activity. What matters is what happens before it, in the mind without any
reason and with letting in the subconcious. The painting is just the
handwork that comes after such a process. This is the second method within
surrealism.

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[kristina]

Hans Spiegeler <hspi...@wanadoo.nl> wrote in message

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> About the planning of the work, that has nothing to do with surrealism but
> everything with just hard work and labour. It's by no means a surrealistic
> activity. What matters is what happens before it, in the mind without any
> reason and with letting in the subconcious. The painting is just the
> handwork that comes after such a process. This is the second method within
> surrealism.

I understand what you are saying here. The whole "process" is something is
something I have been thinking about lately though. I rather enjoy the work
of De Chirico and I also found certain pleasures in viewing your work as
well.

I guess the whole post is a personal one really regarding my thoughts on the
actual "surrealist" process. As mentioned I don't have the capacity or the
patience to create such works as Magritte and De Chirico's. I used to find
it a failing in some ways, but ended up realising that the actual journey of
that "creation" process really became and still is the primary pleasure and
excitement for me. I hope you don't feel that I am in any way saying that
your work has less grounds in "surrealism" due to the tightness and planning
of the work. Different approaches and ways of experiencing that "process"
are to be celebrated. Anyway Hans, thank you for your thoughts on this...

kristina.