my views

[Black Barrel-25]

Perhaps surrealism is both dead and alive simultaneously depending on who is
observing. As I understand it,
surrealism is a synthesis of Frued and Dialectical Materialism. Surrealism is
alive in the sense of the ongoing
groups that support it ,however, I believe that meanings to belief systems are
going through a rapid state of
change. For example the word 'mysticism' has always been a word associated with
supplication and therefor
not in sync with the implicationary (or revolutionary) motives of surrealism. If
one were to study deeper into
the 'mystical' one would find that the interplay of supplicate and implicate is
no different that the idea of
male and female. Opposites can find interplay or some resolvement here. I
believe that This is more of an
information age, than a surrealist one. Since the above negates the low one can
presume surrealism
being the lesser is insignificant to the greater. Poetry is made by all in the
sense of everything being apart
of something else (the Butterfly effect in mathematics or Chaos-strange
attractors). I cannot see art as changing the world,
but rather a Poetic attitude towards everything .Poetic meaning a synthesis of
deeper meanings of things
(alchemical?) to everday life in general. Who is going to determine those things
is a big question that
surrealism is fractionally answering.I always thought that the development of
the 'psychedelic' individual
(psychedelic meaning more inclusive) + (inclusive of surrealism) outweighed
merely what is defined currently
as SURREALISM. If surrealism is to remain opaque then it cannot be an exact
science (if there is such a thing).
Groups of people that cling to closely together will always be suspect. So
groups supporting this or that
should be challenged and there very existence questioned ( is it not the idea of
cliques cults of personality, etc.,
things that made us rebel)
I would like to see art replaced by poetic and more inclusion of the non-visual
associated with the surreal. I
like what LEONARDO publication is doing in the way of the arts, but that is only
one thing among many things.
This is were I'm at for the moment- Black Barrel-25

Dale Houstman wrote:

> "david neal" <david-...@beeb.net> wrote in message
> news:9fdgrc$29mq$1...@news.beeb.net...
> > I have to agree with stating that surrealism is like a diamond, because it
> > is dead. The surrealist movement is dead along with Breton in '66, he was
> > surrealism as it was his movement.
>
> Well - the many active surrealist groups around the world disagree with you,
> and their existence - no matter what you think of them - proves you wrong.
> It's that simple. As for Breton, he himself worked very hard to insure that
> surrealism wouldn't be "Bretonism" and wrote precisely to this point in
> several essays, expressing the fact that surrealism - to survive - had to be
> free to evolve. It still exists. You're simply incorrect.
>
> dmh