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Ian Eade

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Sep 16, 2002, 4:43:41 AM9/16/02
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So the children continue to be let out unsupervised, if the person who
submitted this has not got the back bone to address me directly by email
then they are not worthy of a reply. If this was sent by Hannah then it
only confirms what a mentally unstable person she is and adds to the
considerable amount of spam, attacks, lies and poison that she has spread so
far.

However for a long time this has been the main theme, people hiding behind
something and citing falsehood and biased opinions as fact without bothering
to find the truth. It should be noted that I was forced out of my position
as administrator of now Surreal a while ago and any such statements should
be directed to the people who have taken over, namely: Trevor - Pierre -
Zazie

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
surrealism69 (surrea...@yahoo.com) on September 16th, 2002

realname: surrealism69

email: surrea...@yahoo.com

Find_now_Surreal: read the latest manticore yet? you guys are incredible. i
do hope you understand how deplorable you have been acting. once again,
instead of replying or being accountable, you are covering up by redirecting
and hitting delete.

Most_Like: just think for a minute about the fact that we have asked and
asked for asnwers that you refuse to give. i do not want them anymore, but
we are most certainly going to stand up for ourselves.

Dis_Like: thing is, we are willing to spend a long time defending ourselves
and the others you've put through the ringer. we are willing to defend
surrealism.

Needs_Improving: most of all, we are defending human beings because NO-ONE
deserves the treatment you have dished out.

Represent_Surrealism: it really is incredible that surrealists complain
about you supporting the only things left on your site. you've removed the
only things surrealists were proud of on your site.

Provide_Services: now Surreal is not a surrealists- friendly site. it's not
even a people- friendly site anymore. it is a humping ground for ian, ray,
keith and imagist. your redirection even shows this loud and clear.

Lasting_Impression: at least surrealists world wide have something very very
funny to laugh at.

Any_Comments: oh yeah. kill yourselves. hannah

residence: United States

design: Thought_Criminal

size: X Large

-------- Env Report --------
REMOTE_ADDR: 203.134.30.41

Dale Houstman

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Sep 16, 2002, 9:18:04 AM9/16/02
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Ian Eade wrote:
> So the children continue to be let out unsupervised,

And - to judge from your role at Now Surreal - you'd love to be the one
who supervises them. A couple of mouth gaga and a few restraints perhaps?

I don't know who wrote the little blurb, but I DO know that amongst the
surreaiost community you now have the credibility of a Catholic priest.
Go start a furniture/art store.

dmh

Kwigd144

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Sep 16, 2002, 9:52:57 AM9/16/02
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Our Father, who art in heaven,hallowed be the name, thy kingdom come,thy will
be done on earth as it is in heaven! Give us this day our daily and forgive us
our trespasses, for we forgive those who trespass against us, and lead us not
into tempation and deliver us from evil, Amen!

Kwigd144

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Sep 16, 2002, 10:07:10 AM9/16/02
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Everybody Knows that her name is LADY HANNAH! HEY LADY HANNAH! Word is Born!

barrett john erickson

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Sep 16, 2002, 11:47:43 AM9/16/02
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"Ian Eade" <Bogo...@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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> [...]

> However for a long time this has been the main theme, people hiding behind
> something and citing falsehood and biased opinions as fact without
bothering
> to find the truth. It should be noted that I was forced out of my position
> as administrator of now Surreal a while ago and any such statements should
> be directed to the people who have taken over, namely: Trevor - Pierre -
> Zazie
>

you know, for someone who is always accusing others of not having their
facts straight and "citing falsehood and biased opinions without bothering
to find the truth" while you dodge the responsibility to answer for your own
actions, it should be noted that zazie has confirmed that you are spreading
"lies and poison" here when you imply any association between her an
nowSurreal or Trevor.

when i get Pierre's answer i'll be happy to call you a liar again.

-- barrett


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Kwigd144

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Sep 16, 2002, 5:20:36 PM9/16/02
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Dear Barrett, Maybe if you provide an apology to all would be proper.

barrett john erickson

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Sep 16, 2002, 5:52:53 PM9/16/02
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"Kwigd144" <kwig...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Dear Barrett, Maybe if you provide an apology to all would be proper.

say what?

again, it would be better if you said what you are trying to say rather than
simply hint at it.

for what do you think i need to apologize? and who is "all"?


barrett


Kwigd144

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Sep 16, 2002, 6:47:35 PM9/16/02
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Barrett, I think an apology would be proper to all here regarding Dale!!!

elag

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Sep 16, 2002, 8:58:08 PM9/16/02
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More blather in WhoreMart, unleavened
hollow be the lame
thy Ping Pong game
thy swill well done
on earth as it is in Leavenworth

Give us this day our Daily News
and give us flour tortillas
for we give tortillas to travelling thespians
and lead us into hot temptation
and deliver us from morons, Aardvark!

Kwigd144

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Sep 16, 2002, 9:26:55 PM9/16/02
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That is right John Adams, Predictable enough to read! I will always be here
too!

Dale Houstman

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Sep 16, 2002, 10:02:39 PM9/16/02
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john adams wrote:
> Dear Keith, you are starting to get predictable here.

It's no beginning: he's been predictable for months now I assume.

I still haven't received a real answer to how he can be repelled by The
Machine in general but use one of its most prominent children, The
Computer on a daily basis without burning his fingers or having a
constant rash.

One has to assume - unless he can finally drop the capitalized hysteria
and engage people honestly - that he is essentially a bad actor, and
doesn't believe a word of it. He speaks of attempting to destroy Logic,
so how can anything he say be taken as being anything but sub-par absurdity?

dmh


john adams

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Sep 16, 2002, 9:08:02 PM9/16/02
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Dale Houstman

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Sep 16, 2002, 9:49:07 PM9/16/02
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Kwigd144 wrote:
> Barrett, I think an apology would be proper to all here regarding Dale!!!


you have a very strange idea of the relationship that exists between
adult humans. Barrett neither has the power to apologize "for me" nor (I
assume) the inclination. So your demand (as you MUST know by now unless
you're cognitively challenged) is pointless.

And myself? I feel that the apologies due are all from the other "side":
the little capitalist venture disguised as a surrealist site that
finally showed its true colors and censored everyone while allowing such
giger thugs as David to blather on an on about - well - nothing.

And who is going to apologize for you? Your mother?

dmh

Kwigd144

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Sep 16, 2002, 9:28:14 PM9/16/02
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Ding Ding JesusLives! Moo Moo Lop Dumaine!

Kwigd144

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Sep 16, 2002, 9:33:36 PM9/16/02
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Ding Ding!!!!!

Kwigd144

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Sep 16, 2002, 9:39:05 PM9/16/02
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Ringa Dinga Ding! hahahaha, Where is Lady Hannah???!!!

barrett john erickson

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Sep 16, 2002, 10:24:18 PM9/16/02
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"Kwigd144" <kwig...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Barrett, I think an apology would be proper to all here regarding Dale!!!

what is that supposed to mean? say what you have to say.


barrett


Kwigd144

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Sep 16, 2002, 10:47:46 PM9/16/02
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Dale, Why did you get divorced from your first wife?

john adams

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Sep 16, 2002, 11:18:38 PM9/16/02
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"Dale Houstman" <dm...@citilink.com> wrote in message
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:
:

Well I know, and it is obvious, the way he ardently continues on that his
ass was severely chapped by all of this, and he's doing everything he can
to retaliate in his own little way. He sees this as a slap in the face to
everyone - perhaps surrealists at large - that may have wronged
nowsurreal, but I'm not sure that I or you or anyone else really cares so
much. It isn't a place where I call home and if this is the kind of dishonesty
and snideness we can expect from him then I'll personally either ignore it or
go elsewhere. Because it isn't really the sort of dialogue worth embracing.

Each time he tries harder we are reminded how hurt he must have
felt, but that is life in the big city Keith. No one here should be expected
to take your plight very seriously while being spat at in the face or while
you're busy misbehaving like an orangutang. So I suppose the subject
title remains pertinent. Let the games continue.

-john


john adams

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Sep 16, 2002, 11:29:56 PM9/16/02
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"john adams" <johnqa...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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:Because it isn't really the sort of dialogue worth embracing.


:
: Each time he tries harder we are reminded how hurt he must have
: felt, but that is life in the big city Keith. No one here should be expected
: to take your plight very seriously while being spat at in the face or while
: you're busy misbehaving like an orangutang. So I suppose the subject
: title remains pertinent. Let the games continue.

Well having read the last several posts from him I see it was worthless
and redundant to write any of that.

Stay tuned, more spasmodic posts to come.

john


Dale Houstman

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Sep 17, 2002, 12:48:06 AM9/17/02
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john adams wrote:
> "Dale Houstman" <dm...@citilink.com> wrote in message
> news:3D868D3F...@citilink.com...
> :
> :
> : john adams wrote:
> : > Dear Keith, you are starting to get predictable here.
> :
> : It's no beginning: he's been predictable for months now I assume.
> :
> : I still haven't received a real answer to how he can be repelled by The
> : Machine in general but use one of its most prominent children, The
> : Computer on a daily basis without burning his fingers or having a
> : constant rash.
> :
> : One has to assume - unless he can finally drop the capitalized hysteria
> : and engage people honestly - that he is essentially a bad actor, and
> : doesn't believe a word of it. He speaks of attempting to destroy Logic,
> : so how can anything he say be taken as being anything but sub-par absurdity?
>
> Well I know, and it is obvious, the way he ardently continues on that his
> ass was severely chapped by all of this, and he's doing everything he can
> to retaliate in his own little way. He sees this as a slap in the face to
> everyone - perhaps surrealists at large - that may have wronged
> nowsurreal, but I'm not sure that I or you or anyone else really cares so
> much. It isn't a place where I call home

Precisely! Actually I was discussing this with Barrett the other day: it
is pathetic but vastly amusing that - as a result of Keith and David's
estrangement from the larger surrealist community - they actually think
they are invading our "turf" here, as if this motley muckhole were
equivalent to their privileged spaces in the Poster Shoppe.

>and if this is the kind of dishonesty
> and snideness we can expect from him then I'll personally either ignore it or
> go elsewhere. Because it isn't really the sort of dialogue worth embracing.

It's true, but there's just a little more business to attend to, before
I leave him alone. The ugliest part is that both Barrett and I took him
at his word when he contacted us and pretended to desire some
conversation, but the first time he heard something he didn't like he
reverted to the usual tripe. Barrett realy gave him a lot of rope, but I
don't stomach such idiocy as well.

>
> Each time he tries harder we are reminded how hurt he must have
> felt, but that is life in the big city Keith. No one here should be expected
> to take your plight very seriously while being spat at in the face or while
> you're busy misbehaving like an orangutang. So I suppose the subject
> title remains pertinent. Let the games continue.
>


I think they are drawing to a close. He seems to have run out of
anything new to say, although he will disguise that for a time by
capitalizing DIFFERENT words in each post. But I'm finding him to be as
engaging as a blank wall.

dmh

Kwigd144

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Sep 17, 2002, 1:17:49 AM9/17/02
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John, Saddam Hussein decided to let the Inspectors back in!!!!! This is Victory
for TEXAS!!!!! Please tell your contacts!!!!!!!!

Kwigd144

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Sep 17, 2002, 9:50:21 AM9/17/02
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Dale, Why do you refer to this newsgroup alt.surrealism as a muckhole? Say for
example that Barrett gave me ALL the rope in the world. You still do not help
anyone because you have never helped yourself, that is my point all along. When
I say that you have not helped yourself, I refer to you and your comrades. Why
bother placing your bio online in the firstplace? Dale, Your poetry is very
good and you are also an artist as you have written, but you fight everything
that you do not agree with. Simply, I am dealing with you on the level that you
have created. Listen:If you want Surrealism and Revolution to bring the entire
world into Sur-reality, you are certainly having a difficult time in doing sso.
You say how foolish and retarded (and a waste of time to talk to) but you
entered a post in here(the muckhole that you refer too) regarding Brandon and
Zazie and Leeds! Please tell me that this does not PROVE my Point, that
You(your "movement") is DISORGANIZED!

john adams

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Sep 17, 2002, 11:54:27 PM9/17/02
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"Kwigd144" <kwig...@aol.com> wrote in message
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: John, Saddam Hussein decided to let the Inspectors back in!!!!! This is Victory

: for TEXAS!!!!! Please tell your contacts!!!!!!!!

So I heard. Thanks for the update. You may now return to your grave
(nowsurreal).


Kwigd144

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Sep 18, 2002, 1:12:10 AM9/18/02
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I WILL BE HERE FOR A VERY LONG TIME! KEITH WIGDOR presents
SURREALISM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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