Surrealist Rock Band
JE777777
rock band to go beyond Floyd and Radiohead.
Cadmium Flute
>Surrealist musicians needed by surrealist writer/songwriter to start surrealist
>rock band to go beyond Floyd and Radiohead.
no, surely you dont mean *beyond*. you cant set your goals too high
with surrealists - remember you will need to set aside 5 hours a day
for discussion of the definition of surrealism. also, i think they
like to sleep about 15 hours a day. that leaves a window of, er, -6
hours to practice "the dark side of the nut", the lyrics of which are
freely available somewhere in the world. good luck to you, you
"writer/songwriter" - do you need a singer/songsinger?
Fascinan
>surrealist
>rock band to go beyond Floyd and Radiohead.
My God man, please do not use Radiohead in the same sentence as Pink Floyd!
Barring Pink Floyd's first couple of albums, where they were cultivating what
was to come later, they are a veritable monster of classic rock. I do not own
a single Radiohead CD -- but that's just me, call me crazy.
I also do not know whether or not the lyrics throughout the bulk of their work
would be considered surreal -- I leave that to the surrealists of the group.
The Wall was basically Roger Water's psychic purge. Dark Side of the Moon (an
epic piece of work) deals with issues of boredom, to transience of time, to
insanity, etc. Lyrically, my favorite work is Momentary Lapse of Reason where
David Gilmour's wife helps with the writing, and some gems are revealed (One
Slip is simple, yet provocative). On the Turning Away delivers a powerful
humanitarian message. Again, I'm not seeing these lyrics as outright surreal.
This raises a good question. What are some lyrics (music) that you find
"surreal", or that at least has an impact on your imagination, feeding your
creative mind?
Dale? Nik? Barrett? Brandon? Andrea? Julie? Certainly, I would like to know
what type of music inspires all of you....
I'll list the following for such an effect on myself:
Primus: (bordering on silly, but there is a strong sense of creative play. Les
Claypool is an astounding bass player.
Genesis w/Peter Gabriel: Lamb Lies Down on Broadway conjures images. Also,
Supper's Ready, Nursery Crime, and Selling England by the Pound had Gabriel's
fantastic sense of the dramatic, where odd characters and anachronistic events
occured.
Jimi Hendrix: Electric Ladyland. Just listen to 1983 A Merman I dream to
be.... Axis Bold as Love is also vivid in expressing color along with music.
Jimi was the man.
King Crimson: Anything. Thela Hun Gingeet, Thela Hun Gingeet -- these guys
are all genius/neurotics. As musically imaginative as I can imagine.
Beatles: I am the egg man koo koo katchoo. Magical Mystery Tour, Revolver,
Sgnt Pepper, etc. The masters of manifesting creativity in music, image,
story. Brilliant.
just a few there,
Fas
Leo Sgouros
JE777777 <je77...@aol.comJEsix7s> wrote in message
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> Surrealist musicians needed by surrealist writer/songwriter to start
surrealist
> rock band to go beyond Floyd and Radiohead.
>
>
> JE
> www4.bcity.com/je
Dale Houstman
Fascinan wrote:
>
>
> This raises a good question. What are some lyrics (music) that you find
> "surreal", or that at least has an impact on your imagination, feeding your
> creative mind?
As explained "the surreal" is not a quality contained in any substance
but a collaboration (often fleeting) between chance and an educated
imagination. That said however...
I like Frank Sinatra (especially "Summer Wind")
I like "mindless" pop music of all kinds
I like Thelonius Monk a lot
I don't particularly care whether a lyric is "odd" or not or whether
dissonance is or is not present.
I like Captain Beefheart
I think "Come Together" is the greatest election campaign song ever
I think Bjork's fascinating and perversely cute
Gillian Welch gets near to the bottom of the gothic country experience
Cibo Matto are inventive
I could care less whether or not a musical form is hip or
progressive.
I listen to the Monkees
John Barry's film scores
I collect "psychedelic" music of all eras and quality
The Pretty Things
Eno
Roxy Music
Chemical Brothers
I appreciate a well-turned phrase
Elvis Costello
Cole Porter as sung by Fred Astaire
Hank Williams
Leonard Cohen
Bob Dylan
I like noise
Bardo Pond
The Rhino punk collections
My Bloody Valentine
I like to put on lounge music collections and ignore them. The
ultimate "wallpaper" music?
I liked Pink Floyd UNTIL Syd departed. Roger Waters is always so
overwrought and agenda heavy, but even he has his triumphs. I think
"Money" is a great record
The Beatles of course
The Pixies
Bowie (especially "Scary Monsters and Super Creeps")
The Bonzo Dog Band
They Might Be Giants
Ben Webster's saxophone
Miles Davis' trumpet
Gil Evans mind
and the beat goes on...
DMH
barrett john erickson
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> Dale? Nik? Barrett? Brandon? Andrea? Julie? Certainly, I would like to
know
> what type of music inspires all of you....
i paste:
>>>
Response to a Questionnaire on Music
(to Johannes Bergmark of the Surrealistgruppen in Sweden)
1) What kind of music do you like to listen to?
Jazz, kind of blue with brilliant corners. Endless miles of Davis and Monk
on the Coltrane bound for distant syncopations and painful changes.
Blues, slow and tragic to tear passion from its cage.
Zappa in the zone.
2) What kind of music, if any, do you play yourself?
Guitar improvised from minor transgression and whispered warnings. Echoes
of scored surfaces.
3) What kind of music appears, in any way or aspect, surrealist to you?
That which softly fails to arrive at charted destinations. A mournful cry.
The overturn of safe transposition.
Or a stabbing flash of sharpened edge with exploding bridges and twisted
metal.
4) What are your thoughts about the question of surrealism and music?
Music is a path down which we are led by an opportunity to diverge. The
given key can free the extreme exploratory challenge in all directions, the
dominant subverted by modal wanderings and discord.
(1996)
<<<
-- barrett
bar...@MagneticFields.org
http://www.MagneticFields.org/
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"Everything tends to make us believe that there exists a
certain point of the mind at which life and death, the real and
the imagined, past and future, the communicable and the
incommunicable, high and low, cease to be perceived as
contradictions."
...André Breton
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Dale Houstman
barrett john erickson wrote:
>
Stick an onion in it!
DMH
SSMATIC
Do you own a set of ears, friend? If you're thinking of anything slightly
beyond Floyd do not pass Beefheart do not collect $200 to pay for a ticket to
the next monstrosity of a concert they inflict upon their fans.
And that's not even mentioning the stuff that has nothing to do with
self-absorbed navel-gazing white blues. I've got calypso records that go
beyond Floyd, and I'm not being a smartass. I've got socks more surreal than
Radiohead.
While we're off-topic to a degree unheard of:
Slovenly, the Pop Group, Blurt, and even "Locust Abortion Technician" by the
Butthole Surfers beat your pair for the pot and the deed to your Grandma's
record collection. Go keep me company someplace else.
SSMATIC
I happen to think the Barret-era Floyd body-slams and camel clutches that radio
slop they sold their tax-evading souls to produce from 1973 -->, and the only
thing I like off Ummagumma is Astronomy Domine. That's gospel truth on Planet
Assmatic, okay?
Nikolaus Maack
> know what type of music inspires all of you....
I like THEY MIGHT BE GIANTS a lot, as their lyrics are either pure
nonsense, or pure profundity, or both.
"At the vanishing dot at the map of the spot, let me take you there. The
dotted line surrounding the mind of the self called nowhere. It's a thing
named 'it' in a bottomless pit; you can't see it there. The shrunken head
that lies in the bed of the self called nowhere."
I like FOETUS, because he's so very angry and obscene and comical, and he
knows this. Violent blues, jazz, and industrial mixed with spiritual and
lord only knows what else. Everything Thirwell touches gets dirty and
shines.
"I said hey, baby, keep your big mouth shut. I said hey, baby, keep your
big mouth shut. Gonna take a trip up the hershey highway, along the
rockey road and we'll do it my way. Bite the pillow, and don't talk back.
Roll over, lay down, and shut your trap. I said a HEY, BABY... Keep your
BIG... MOUTH... SHUT."
Barry Adamson makes me happy, though I only have his MOSS SIDE STORY cd at
this point in time. His rendition of the theme from "The Man With The
Golden Arm" gives me shivers. (It's instrumental, so no quote at this
point.)
Old DEVO albums make me wet. Another example of silly, possibly profound,
but probably not.
"I'm tired of the soup de jour. Wanna end this prophylactic tour. Afraid
nobody around here understands my potato. I guess I'm just a spud boy,
looking for a real tomato."
I don't know why I like SOUTHERN CULTURE ON THE SKIDS. They're sort of a
country and western band, except they're not. I think they exemplify what
perfect music -- and possibly perfect art -- should be like: take yourself
serious enough to do a good job, but don't take yourself so seriously that
you can't fool around and play with what you're doing.
"You know I love you honey, but don't you think it's funny? The way you
talk down to me, it sends a chill right through me. White trash! Don't
call me that. White trash! Don't call me that."
I love the BUTTHOLE SURFERS for the same reason. They love to play. I
saw them live at the first Lollapalooza in Toronto. It made my year. A
lot of their songs make no sense at all, but are breath-takingly
beautiful.
"Ten foot tall Emma Nurse stuck a needle in my arm. Well Uncle Doc's
nurse use a needle with ungodly charm. Whoa-ho-ho-ho-ho. Walking down
the hall, the dentist LOOMS through the door. I SAW AN X-RAY OF A GIRL
PASSING GAS."
I guess I love all music that doesn't take itself too seriously. I
despise a lot of music for the way the artists obviously can't laugh at
themselves. Most music videos, for example, are far too SERIOUS.
Then again, I like turning on CBC radio during the afternoon and listening
to an endless stream of classical music, opera, jazz, and whatever. Did
Mozart laugh at himself? Perhaps. But this music is very serious stuff,
in some ways.
I also used to go to ZAPHOD'S, an Ottawa bar, every Tuesday for industrial
night. I definitely don't fit in with the goths who show up. A lot of
industrial music takes itself WAY too seriously -- and so do the goths --
but I love the rage it contains. Anger is addictive. But I haven't been
to a Tuesday night of mad dancing for quite a while.
I listen to music while I paint -- and sometimes when I write -- and I
fade in and out of the music as it warbles along. Sometimes I'll set one
cd on random repeat, so the songs play endlessly in random mixtures, and
listen to that one cd all afternoon.
I often sing along while I paint.
This is more information than you wanted.
Nik
--
"Liberals just love to drop dead, to satisfy the paranoia of the bigots
who target them."
-- Roger Miller, alt.journalism.gonzo
Nikolaus Maack
SSMATIC (ssm...@aol.com) writes:
> While we're off-topic to a degree unheard of:
> Slovenly, the Pop Group, Blurt, and even "Locust Abortion Technician" by the
> Butthole Surfers beat your pair for the pot and the deed to your Grandma's
> record collection. Go keep me company someplace else.
I've never met anyone who has heard of BLURT before. We are talking about
the band that recorded "Kenny Roger's Greatest Hits: Take 2" are we not?
Let me see if I can think of some lyrics from a couple of songs...
"At the end of the LINE. Au fond de la mer. The sharks of paradise let
down their hair. Red! Red! Red is the blood que tu a mon cher. But
blue! Yes blue blood is the blood which they very much prefer."
"At the corner at the corner at the corner... At the corner of portage
and main."
I own this on vinyl somewhere. Bought it a million years ago because it
looked weird. And, surprise, it was. I loved it to bits. Never found
another album by that band, though. Curse this city of Ottawa.
"Locust Abortion Technician" is a wonderful album. "22 going on 23" is
the scariest fucking piece of music I have ever heard.
For some reason all of this reminds me of how much I love BIG BLACK. I
also have a lot of their stuff on vinyl. My turntable needs a new belt.
Tragedy. Otherwise I would spend the rest of my days listening to KITTY
EMPIRE, a lovely song off the album SONGS ABOUT FUCKING.
"When the cats away, it's a regular rat day. When the rats away, king
cat, king cat can't play. And I strut around, with my whip in the wind.
It flops around. You admired it! I'm your neighbour now. You can't stop
me now!"
*sigh*
Now I'm in some kind of nostalgic music kick, and it's all your goddamn
fault.
Dale Houstman
Nikolaus Maack wrote:
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> My turntable needs a new belt.
That's because it's getting fat.
Here in Minneapolis there is only one store that specializes in
turntable sales, repairs and supplies, which is good news for my 800+
albums. In Ottawa? Maybe you could make one out of a pair of nylons,
like they do for temporary repaiurs to auto fan belts?
Now there's a sexy drive belt...
DMH
Nikolaus Maack
Dale Houstman (dale.h...@gte.net) writes:
> Here in Minneapolis there is only one store that specializes in
> turntable sales, repairs and supplies, which is good news for my 800+
> albums. In Ottawa? Maybe you could make one out of a pair of nylons,
> like they do for temporary repaiurs to auto fan belts?
> Now there's a sexy drive belt...
There are a couple of stereo places that do repairs and have turntable
belts on hand. No specialty stores, however. My turntable can be fixed,
made more powerful, stronger, smarter, faster, able to spin at 33RPMs at a
single switch flick.
Some day we will all have to use nylons to make our turntables work.
And damn it, while we're on the topic, I *really* do like the snap,
crackles, and pops on some of my old vinyl. It gives the music character.
If that makes me a cranky old sonuvawhozits, then so be it.
Paul Whitehead
<fasc...@aol.com> writes
>>Surrealist musicians needed by surrealist writer/songwriter to start
>>surrealist
>>rock band to go beyond Floyd and Radiohead.
>
>Barring Pink Floyd's first couple of albums, where they were cultivating what
>was to come later, they are a veritable monster of classic rock. I do not own
>a single Radiohead CD -- but that's just me, call me crazy.
I'll just call you a crazy diamond. Shine on!
Paul
Leo Sgouros
Paul Whitehead <weste...@western-pr.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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Ever heard of Magazine?
Paul Whitehead
<lsgo...@tampabay.rr.com> writes
Er, no!
Paul
JE777777
you've listened to OK Computer, granted they are not Pink Floyd yet, they are
on their way.
>>> >
>>> >My God man, please do not use Radiohead in the same sentence as Pink
>>Floyd!
Martin Wanka
i always thought this to be the right music to read Emile Cioran
was surprised to have them quote him on their last album
sorrily they never have textbokks and the internet has not much info either
Paul Whitehead schrieb in Nachricht ...
In article <19990802142603...@ng-fh1.aol.com>, Fascinan
<fasc...@aol.com> writes
>>Surrealist musicians needed by surrealist writer/songwriter to start
>>surrealist
>>rock band to go beyond Floyd and Radiohead.
>
>My God man, please do not use Radiohead in the same sentence as Pink
Floyd!
Leo Sgouros
JE777777 <je77...@aol.comJEsix7s> wrote in message
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> don't tell me not to put Radiohead in the same sentence w/ Pink Floyd
until
> you've listened to OK Computer, granted they are not Pink Floyd yet, they
are
> on their way.
>
> >>> >
> >>> >My God man, please do not use Radiohead in the same sentence as Pink
> >>Floyd!
>
>
> JE
> www4.bcity.com/je
I like Radiohead.
Not bad for aussies.
!
JE777777
>Not bad for aussies.
>!
>
>
aussies? huh?
Leo Sgouros
JE777777 <je77...@aol.comJEsix7s> wrote in message
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Was it not that guitar player who was like the best guitar player in
Australia?
Wait, ...........
Is that Silverchair I am thinking of..
Well i like them both.
?
??
Paul Whitehead
<lsgo...@tampabay.rr.com> writes
>
>
believe. Only they know how to turn on the emotional agony (all them
whippings by matron and spanks by the headmaster), but I don't speak
from experience!
Paul
Leo Sgouros
> Radiohead is a bunch of english public (i.e. private) school boys, I
> believe. Only they know how to turn on the emotional agony (all them
> whippings by matron and spanks by the headmaster), but I don't speak
> from experience!
>
>
> Paul
(clears throat)
Neither do me!
It may have been an all boys school, but the Christian Brothers had beer in
their soda machine(of course on the side where they lived)
I have to respect that at least.
spoil the sod, fuel the rod
Paul Whitehead
<m.v...@planet-interkom.de> writes
>Surrealist music? try Trisomie 21, a french band of 80' electronic stuff
>i always thought this to be the right music to read Emile Cioran
>was surprised to have them quote him on their last album
Or try the German group, Tangerine Dream, who erupted on the
surrealistic music scene in the early 1970s. 'Phaedra' was one album
and it stayed in the charts for quite some time (months?).
'Paul'