terrorists
david anthony magitis
received my application form to become a "surrealist"
THE SURREALIST SOCIETY.
Please read and fill in carefully all the questions below.
1) Would you become a sheep for the "surrealist course".
2) Would you believe everything you read.
3) Will you attack the nearest no line gallery which uses the term
"NowSurreal"
4) Would you mention your disgust at cooperative organisations, but do
absolute nothing about them. and only attack those out there who indeed
share many of the same thoughts and idealisms in this evil world.
5) Will you agree with absolutely everything we say!
6) Will you be a sad bastard! Believe that you are down trodden and enjoy
it.
7) So on and so on.
If yes to all above welcome. If you have different views and enjoy being an
individual then please piss off. however you may pop in from time to time as
we will not ban you!
Many thanks,
Mr Wolfe.
Well what do you know I do not fit! Must be getting close though I have
started to complain about most thinks and do nothing about them. Please can
I join the little voices who scream in private and lurk in public.
Dale Houstman
You dyslexic little jackass. Still pretending as if it were the
surrealists who censored and removed, when it was your own little
arty-farty group that turned elitist and censorious. Your delusions
probably look good with your mind cummerbund.
dmh
david anthony magitis
SURREALISM N. movement in art and literature emphasizing expression of the
unconscious._SURREAL a SURREALIST n/a.
I am obviously the salt in the wound, otherwise like so many you would not
complain! I vow to endorse to what means any large co_op just to piss you
off! I will become Dali excused from your from your group and piss on your
beliefs, unfortunately your believes are my believes so yes I will live a
lie and denounce your petty behaviour. By the way tomorrow I have an
exhibition catering for around five hundred people, please let me know if
you wish to leave messages!
Kwigd144
tab. WHERE ARE MY FUCKING SONGS?
Dale Houstman
david anthony magitis wrote:
> Still no answer then!
you answer My question: What is it you DON'T do for a "living"?
This isn't your castle in Berchestgarten, David: you don't get to set
the rules here simply by belching into your own hat.
answer my other question: what precisely does the nature of my
employment have to do with the nature of your cosmic distance from
surrealism? Answer me, I'll answer you.
> SURREALISM N. movement in art and literature emphasizing expression of the
> unconscious._SURREAL a SURREALIST n/a.
BAD definition. That's my answer.
>
> I am obviously the salt in the wound
Not that important. More the air in a deflated balloon.
> By the way tomorrow I have an
> exhibition catering for around five hundred people, please let me know if
> you wish to leave messages!
>
Yes, here's one: "This is an art exhibition and I am a petty capitalist
swine." Carve it in your piggish face.
dmh
>
Dale Houstman
Kwigd144 wrote:
> Ring a Ding Ding! SURREALISM WANTS YOU! prices may vary upon group member's
> tab. WHERE ARE MY FUCKING SONGS?
Even David is making more sense, and he's making almost none.
If you are suggesting (and it is so hard to tell, the level of discourse
in the rank and foul of Now Surreal is so debased) that surrealism
charges entrance fees, you must know you are shitting in your own hat.
dmh
Kwigd144
barrett john erickson
"Kwigd144" <kwig...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> 3000 Dale YOU PIG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! KEITH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!,
I WAS MAKING SOME UPDATES TO OUR "TRACTS AND EXPLORATIONS" AREA,
[ http://www.magneticfields.org/enACTion/list.html ]
AND REALIZED THIS ONE FITS RIGHT UP YOUR ALLEY:
http://www.magneticfields.org/blue/SE2/publish/SE2cover.html
IF YOU HAVE TROUBLE READING THE SMALL TYPE THE ANCHOR TEXT IS ALSO AT:
http://www.magneticfields.org/tracts/9_11.html
an appropriate antidote for the corporate media today, perhaps.
-- barrett
BLUE FEATHERS se2 (The New World Odor) is now available
(BF#4 will be available in July02)
http://www.MagneticFields.org/blue/
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surrealists in minnesota
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"Everything tends to make us believe that there exists a
certain point of the mind at which life and death, the real and
the imagined, past and future, the communicable and the
incommunicable, high and low, cease to be perceived as
contradictions."
...André Breton
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david anthony magitis
"Dale Houstman" <dm...@citilink.com> wrote in message
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>
> > SURREALISM N. movement in art and literature emphasizing expression of
the
> > unconscious._SURREAL a SURREALIST n/a.
>
> BAD definition. That's my answer.
Well you had better go and burn every dictionary out there! Or would you
like me to do it for you?
barrett john erickson
"david anthony magitis" <ima...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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you prefer to take your definition of "surrealism" from a dictionary rather
than surrealists?
Kwigd144
know. Surrealism is nowhere to be seen in your most recent BLUE FEATHERS
update. Anarchy maybe,Surrealism no.Your distrust of anything and lack of
organization and unity in our movement is 1928 all over again.
Dale Houstman
You're attractive when you make sense. Unfortunately you never make sense.
ANYONE who values "unity" over truth and open discussion (no matter how
rancorous) is an enemy of the imagination, and might as well work in the
White House press corps.
And - who is this "someone that we already know"? Which bridge did we
meet them on? Does the name of that bridge conjure up memories of a bad
upbringing and a worse adulthod? Is that "someone" female or male, and
how does the answer affect your adoration of them? If we did "already
know" this "someone" is it not worth knowing them again? Or have we
emptied them out merely by acquainting ourselves with them? Should we
thus stay away from engagements, hoping to sustain the potential for
knowing for the first (and last) time ad infinitum? Is this already
known "someone" related to you, and in precisely what fashion?
dmh
barrett john erickson
Keith,
if you have a critique to offer up, please do. i'd welcome that discussion.
but lets go beyond the generalizations and get at some specifics that you
think disqualify the material as an example of surrealist
exploration/response.
Kwigd144
to you Barrett for the previous one and also to all. My mailbox and doors are
open and I do not want to fight anymore, that was my own doing anyway and time
to work on things and move on.
Dale Houstman
When you meet yourself on the steps down to the pharmacy, are you
clutching a small cup full of pills, and what color is your tongue?
dmh
Kwigd144
john adams
"david anthony magitis" <ima...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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: "Dale Houstman" <dm...@citilink.com> wrote in message
Who would be a better person for the job of burning books?
john adams
: Barrett, Your article on the WTC is already saying someone that we already
: know. Surrealism is nowhere to be seen in your most recent BLUE FEATHERS
: update. Anarchy maybe,Surrealism no.Your distrust of anything and lack of
: organization and unity in our movement is 1928 all over again.
A most typical misunderstanding about anarchy: chaos, lack of
organization, etc. It is no surprise, considering your understanding of
surrealism that I've noticed in passing as well.
Dale Houstman
Kwigd144 wrote:
> Dale, Please let's move on, Give Peace A Chance.
I'll move on if you'll promise me I can walk over your body.
dmh
david anthony magitis
rather
> than surrealists?
>
>
> -- barrett
Is there any other way Barrett? Who are the surrealists you mention?
Nik Maack
Dale, are you into bondage? I ask, because so much of you seems wound
up in trying to inflict pain on others. Try stylizing it just a bit
more -- say by wearing a leather vest and beating the air with a riding
crop. That way, people will understand that this is a part of your
sexual nature, thus legitimizing your actions.
"I thought Dale was just a jerk, but it turns out he's a sexual sadist."
"OH, well that makes sense!"
Etc.
Nik
Dale Houstman
That's almost as funny as you are pathetic!
You can wait for the long list, or you can tell me - since you inhabit a
site called Now Surreal - can you yourself name those surrealists who
might have indulged in defining their activities and desires?
Have you EVER read anything concerning the surrealists, or by the
surrealists? If so, you would have come across the definitions that make
your lame entry look to be the non-starter it is.
dmh
Dale Houstman
You continue to inject yourself into a chain of events that you have no
understanding of. I am the one who has experienced Keith's - to be
generous - "mood swings" between Pollyanna and Pol Pot. Your opinion on
the matter - formed as it always is by kneejerk reactions to
half-understood words floating in a pool of hazy bile - is without any
relevance. It seems there are people who NEVER learn from their
mistakes, and it seems that at least one of them lives in Canada.
dmh
Kwigd144
that was going on for a long time was interrupted by disputes and now
addressing the issues and attacks. Again you have read recent posts and I ask
all to please let us try to work on moving forward. Dale, Please I retracted
the mood swings that you refer to and your insults do not let up. I am waiting
to hear back from Barrett whenever he has time and hopefully
problems,issues,recent events can be solved and we can move forward without
people being hurt. Please,let us do this.
barrett john erickson
"john adams" <johnqa...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Alexander Cockburn quoted an Andrew Greeley piece this week that is relevant
here:
http://www.counterpunch.org/cockburn0911.html
the point being that there was anarchy on 911 but not necessarily chaos.
but of course most of the stories of ordinary people reacting to
extraordinary circumstance with poise and commraderie have simply never been
told by the corporate media. of the ones that we do hear, the ordinary
people selected to tell such stories over and over are ususally cops or
firefighters, reinforcing the notion that the official structures of POWER
were the "heroes" of that day. but when you listen to the stories of these
cops and firefighters, you realize that their "heroic" actions have nothing
to do with their official jobs, except for the fact that their official jobs
put them on the scene. these stories are really all about people helping
other people in situations where the hierarchy has broken down.
the one example of common people in action that we here plenty of is that of
flight 93. these were ordinary people joining in sponteneous revolt against
those who'd hijacked their lives in a quest for POWER. but the media
presents this as a rare and brilliant diamond. can we be sure we'd do the
same? of course we all have that potential. and that creates a somewhat
unsettling subtext for those with a vested interest in hijacking our
everyday lives and re-routing us to the mall.
to compensate, the corporate media struggles to single out "leaders" among
the passengers, the "exceptional" person we can only hope to be, rather than
the everyday person we are already. but they don't want us to worry about
that, after all, it is POWER's mission to make sure you and i never have to
face this sort of test.
so authorized heroes are knighted in elaborate public ceremonies (cops,
firefighters and even GULLIANI of all people!) and we are encouraged to
place our trust in their vigilance.
all of this reinforces the myths that sustain POWER.
POWER wants us all to believe that anarchy = chaos because otherwise we
might realize that we can actually get the things that need to be done done
without the hierachies telling us how and when to do it.
and they fear that if we ever wake up to that fact, we may decide to boil
some water and break down their doors with the breakfast cart.
Kwigd144
corporate media have on the entire production on presenting the terrorist
attack on 9/11. Noam Chomsky detailed fascinating insight into
these,"REINFORCERS" in his book,"NECESSARY ILLUSION,Thought Control in
Democratic Society". Barrett and John, The problems with ACCEPTING the Response
to Corrective Measures regarding the Attack is what is NOT BEING REPORTED ON.
That is what upsets me the most in regards to what measures could have been
taken to prevent all of this in the first place. Barrett and John, I do
understand the Discussion on addressing the Ordinary People in helping each
other during the attack, but what SHOULD be Addressed is the Measures that we
already have in place to Prevent Something like this in the first place.For
Example, We place Blind Faith in a Security System to Protect our Country and
Freedom, The National Security Act of 1947 which OVERRIDES the Posse Comitatus
Act, which no one really wants to fix. FEMA already has control over our lives
but there is no MASS COLLECTIVE OUTCRY TO FIGHT THIS! Don Rumsfeld's
enforcement of the Patriot Act is another byproduct of the UNWILLINGNESS of the
American People to Prevent such Measures like this happening in the 1st place.
The more we analyze the Ordinary People response and less we fight the system
that molds it and controls it, then more tragedy will come. You place your
Faith in RAYTHEON where You should place your faith in ORGANIZATION to stop
Systems like this from coming into existence in the first place. Curzio
Malaparte successfully infiltrated the Surrealist Movement in the past and also
many others too, thus look at what happened. The Real,"TECHNICIANS OF THE MIND"
wind up in Exile in Mexico and we then are all doomed to become happy shoppers
under the Control and Guidance of The Carlyle Group!!!
Kwigd144
regards to Breton and Trotsky's Manifesto Free and Revolutionary Art. Dale, I
mention Unity because it as a very important part of the imagination. The work
between Breton/Trotslky/Naville and others are the foundation for Unity which I
refer too in my posts. Barret, I refer to Anarchy as the Unity that binds us
together in Surrealism, that is what I was addressing in the previous post that
I made to your update. Unity and Organization are Very Important in the
Imagination for us all to explore and bring into Sur-Reality, that is what I
strive to make sense of in the posts. Dale,Barrett,John, The Unity is such an
Important Factor even now,especially as Barrett points out in the last,"BLUE
FEATHERS" update addressing Ordinary People and the Heirarchy of Power. We
Fight the Power and Manacles of Corporate Media, yet are we successful in
bringing revolution to the minds of all? Barrett, That is why I say 1928 all
over again, the obvious is right in front of us, now,where do we go from here?
barrett john erickson
> > you prefer to take your definition of "surrealism" from a dictionary
> rather
> > than surrealists?
> >
> >
> > -- barrett
>
> Is there any other way Barrett?
no surrealist would accept a definition of surrealism that didn't originate
from within the movement itself.
>Who are the surrealists you mention?
i'll offer a few examples from the 4 1/2 pages worth that constitute an
appendix to "Surrealism Against The Current":
"Surrealism is not a new or easier means of expression, nor even a
metaphysics of poetry; it is a total means of complete liberation of the
mind and all that resembles it."
(The French Surrealist Group, 1925)
"Everything tends to make us believe that there exists a certain point of
the mind at which life and death, the real and the imagined, past and
future, the communicable and the incommunicable, high and low, cease to be
perceived as contradictions. It would be vain to seek in surrealist
activity any other aim than the hope of determining this point."
(Andre Breton, 1930)
"Surrealism, which is the constructive evolution of Dadaism, intends to
integrate human poetry into life itself, that is by implicitly submitting
itself to the dialectical movement of human becoming. Its limits can only be
those of mankind in relation to the earth and vice versa."
(Marcel Lecomte/E.L.T. Mesens, 1935)
"Surrealism is the collective experience of individualism."
(Andre Masson, 1938)
"Neither a school nor a sect, much more than an attitude, surrealism is, in
the most aggressive and complete sense of the word, an adventure. An
adventure of humanity and the real thrown together in the same movement."
(The French Surrealist Group, 1951)
"Surrealism is the desperate attempt of poetry to incarnate itself in
history."
(Octavio Paz, 1959)
"In my view, what is essential to surrealism is a sort of rage. [...]
Against the existing state of things. A rage against life as it is..."
(George Bataille, 1961)
"Surrealism is in search of an authentic language, the language of negation,
as the great refusal to accept the rules of a game in which the dice are
loaded."
(Nicolas Calas, 1981)
"[Surrealism is] a visceral aspiration towards a system in which would be at
once aesthetic, moral and scientific. Truth, Beauty and Efficacy brought
together. A single thing."
(Michel Leiris, 1989)
and one more, from "Contested Boundaries":
"It is the lustful embrace of enhanced reality, the carnal union of a
liberated imagination with everyday living that is our project, not the
display of pictures or the recitation of words which, in the end, amount to
little more than flaccid self-exposure."
(barrett john erickson, 1998)
david anthony magitis
"barrett john erickson" <bar...@magneticfields.org> wrote in message
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See the difference Dale! Two answers for one question! Note I do not
mention yours! Barrett thank you. (yes I mean that!) Dale piss off or/and
drink piss which ever you prefer.
www.imagist.btinternet.co.uk
barrett john erickson
> The more we analyze the Ordinary People response and less we fight the
system
> that molds it and controls it, then more tragedy will come.
i think it's important that we actively promote an awareness that each of us
is fully capable of taking our lives back from the hijackers (and in this
case i refer to corporate moguls and senators and cops and the corporate
media and the RIAA and all the other intermediaries POWER positions between
us and our intuitive desire). one way i see to do that is to offer a
counter analysis to the propaganda of POWER. that is, to show that what is
currently being presented as the actions of "heroes" -- which is really just
an extention of the predominant view of history as the results of actions by
"great men" -- is instead better explained as a form of social anarchy in
process.
> You place your
> Faith in RAYTHEON where You should place your faith in ORGANIZATION to
stop
> Systems like this from coming into existence in the first place.
well, i certainly don't place my "faith" in Raytheon. and i don't intend to
place "faith" in anything.
what i will do is place myself in action with as many other like minded
people i can find.
> Curzio
> Malaparte successfully infiltrated the Surrealist Movement in the past and
also
> many others too, thus look at what happened. The Real,"TECHNICIANS OF THE
MIND"
> wind up in Exile in Mexico and we then are all doomed to become happy
shoppers
> under the Control and Guidance of The Carlyle Group!!!
there will always be "infiltrators". but they will always be exposed at
some point, at least within surrealist circles (and hopefully before they
can talk to Ashcroft). this is so, because normal surrealist discourse
demands an openess to the sorts of inquiries and challenges which will
expose them, or else they will essentially admit that they don't belong
among surrealists by refusing to respond to such inquiry or challenge.
barrett john erickson
> Barret, I refer to Anarchy as the Unity that binds us
> together in Surrealism, that is what I was addressing in the previous post
that
> I made to your update. Unity and Organization are Very Important in the
> Imagination for us all to explore and bring into Sur-Reality, that is what
I
> strive to make sense of in the posts.
if you mean by "organization", as i think you do, a concerted collaborative
effort, i can agree. if by "organization" you mean something more
structured, i cannot.
and i don't think "unity" is very important except on the most fundamental
level of the surrealist project. quite a bit can be accomplished by two or
three people acting more or less independent of the larger movement that can
become very important to the overall trajectory of that movement, even if
many disagree with what they did at the time.
and beyond that, as Dale has pointed out before, the dialectic of
disagreement -- however violent -- is essential to maintaining movement
toward the common goal.
> Dale,Barrett,John, The Unity is such an
> Important Factor even now,especially as Barrett points out in the
last,"BLUE
> FEATHERS" update addressing Ordinary People and the Heirarchy of Power. We
> Fight the Power and Manacles of Corporate Media, yet are we successful in
> bringing revolution to the minds of all? Barrett, That is why I say 1928
all
> over again, the obvious is right in front of us, now,where do we go from
here?
i think my post points to that, as does my follow up to your other comment:
we have to promote a worldview in which everyone is not only willing, but
believes themselves capable of overtaking the hijackers of their intuitive
desire.
john adams
:
: "john adams" <johnqa...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Thanks for the article, I enjoyed it. Another more recent example related to this
is the woman in florida who apparently overheard 3 middle eastern men discussing
"wait until 9/13". These individuals, who were "extremely uncooperative", are not
suspects by the way. Newscasters today have been asserting that this new stage
of high alert and tighter security is proof "the system is working". Amidst all of
the
calls for hightened security and unnecessary arrests and encroachment upon
human rights, I suppose eventually something is going to swing the way of
authorities by mere chance, and possibly be manipulated to look good.
Indeed we will all be safer as individuals continue to look out for another and
begin to question the motives of those in control and the apparatus which is
responsible for all this gloom, just on the homefront. The corporate corruption,
the power weilding charlatans in washington, an ecology on the skids, another
voting hitch in florida - I wonder when these lessons will be enough.
Power is a funny term and I know you have two different working definitions. There
are structures of power that have emerged in the negative form of the church,
the state, elite interest groups, the military, accumulation of power and wealth, and
so forth. Not to be confused with the ability to act, or overcome such obstacles, we
may em-power ourselves with. I prefer to refer to the "powers that be" as elements
of "control" and "authority" specifically so as to rule out any misunderstanding
when
using singular terms. But that's just me.
I will be there with the first breakfast cart bursting through the doors eating a
chicken wing!
-john
barrett john erickson
> Thanks for the article, I enjoyed it.
Cockburn is still great in the way Hitchens used to be.
> Amidst all of the calls for hightened security and unnecessary arrests
> and encroachment upon human rights, I suppose eventually something
> is going to swing the way of authorities by mere chance, and possibly
> be manipulated to look good.
at our meeting last night we were musing about what it is that our "director
of homeland security" does.
i see him sitting there behind his desk watching CNN all day with one of
those meters in his hand -- the kind they use at movie previews and state of
the union addresses for the audience to give continuous live feedback to the
pollsters -- continuously adjusting the "alert level".
no wonder the guy doesn't want to be considered for the proposed cabinet
level position. he doesn't want to face some self-rigtheous senator asking
"what the hell is it you do all day?"
> Indeed we will all be safer as individuals continue to look out for
another and
> begin to question the motives of those in control and the apparatus which
is
> responsible for all this gloom, just on the homefront. The corporate
corruption,
> the power weilding charlatans in washington, an ecology on the skids,
another
> voting hitch in florida - I wonder when these lessons will be enough.
i doubt it will be before some major calamnity -- on the order of the WWII
japanese internment camps.
i mean if Jose Padilla isn't enough...
> Power is a funny term and I know you have two different working
definitions.
yup, lower case "good" caps "bad"...
> There
> are structures of power that have emerged in the negative form of the
church,
> the state, elite interest groups, the military, accumulation of power and
wealth, and
> so forth.
i'd put all _structured_ POWER in caps.
> Not to be confused with the ability to act, or overcome such obstacles, we
> may em-power ourselves with. I prefer to refer to the "powers that be" as
elements
> of "control" and "authority" specifically so as to rule out any
misunderstanding
> when using singular terms. But that's just me.
all we have to do is understand what the other is saying. it appears we do.
> I will be there with the first breakfast cart bursting through the doors
eating a
> chicken wing!
i'd be with you, but sucking on one of those little jack daniels bottles.
Kwigd144
and the Force is the Persons striving for that goal, as with 3 people that can
have an overall impact on the whole, but there must be the Feedback form the
whole to show us all that there are Rich Results.
barrett john erickson
ah yes!
the "rich results" are in fact the chain-reaction effect of many people
spontaneously and intuitively recognizing their stake in the efforts of the
smaller group encountered and joining in.
but the goal isn't just the imagination, but the total integration of the
imagination into every day living -- on a social scale as well as an
individual scale.
barrett
john adams
:
: "john adams" <johnqa...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
: news:Vmrg9.255886$kp.8...@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net...
:
: > Thanks for the article, I enjoyed it.
:
: Cockburn is still great in the way Hitchens used to be.
:
: > Amidst all of the calls for hightened security and unnecessary arrests
: > and encroachment upon human rights, I suppose eventually something
: > is going to swing the way of authorities by mere chance, and possibly
: > be manipulated to look good.
:
: at our meeting last night we were musing about what it is that our "director
: of homeland security" does.
:
: i see him sitting there behind his desk watching CNN all day with one of
: those meters in his hand -- the kind they use at movie previews and state of
: the union addresses for the audience to give continuous live feedback to the
: pollsters -- continuously adjusting the "alert level".
:
: no wonder the guy doesn't want to be considered for the proposed cabinet
: level position. he doesn't want to face some self-rigtheous senator asking
: "what the hell is it you do all day?"
I just assumed he played several rounds of golf a week and kept his suits
primmed for the occasional press conference or business meeting (although
I dont believe he has any authority handling the Homeland Security business
contracts). It sounds like any easy enough job.
: > Indeed we will all be safer as individuals continue to look out for
: another and
: > begin to question the motives of those in control and the apparatus which
: is
: > responsible for all this gloom, just on the homefront. The corporate
: corruption,
: > the power weilding charlatans in washington, an ecology on the skids,
: another
: > voting hitch in florida - I wonder when these lessons will be enough.
:
: i doubt it will be before some major calamnity -- on the order of the WWII
: japanese internment camps.
:
: i mean if Jose Padilla isn't enough...
Yes, we are always slow to learn and even then a bit amnesiac
when it comes to the history books.
: > Power is a funny term and I know you have two different working
: definitions.
:
: yup, lower case "good" caps "bad"...
If that is an attempt at a Dana Carvey George Bush sr. impression, it isn't too
bad.
: > There
: > are structures of power that have emerged in the negative form of the
: church,
: > the state, elite interest groups, the military, accumulation of power and
: wealth, and
: > so forth.
:
: i'd put all _structured_ POWER in caps.
:
: > Not to be confused with the ability to act, or overcome such obstacles, we
: > may em-power ourselves with. I prefer to refer to the "powers that be" as
: elements
: > of "control" and "authority" specifically so as to rule out any
: misunderstanding
: > when using singular terms. But that's just me.
:
: all we have to do is understand what the other is saying. it appears we do.
True, but I was more concerned of alienating others who might not be privy
to that same understanding.
: > I will be there with the first breakfast cart bursting through the doors
: eating a
: > chicken wing!
:
: i'd be with you, but sucking on one of those little jack daniels bottles.
The barbeque sauce, or the wine coolers? In any case bring them
both along for the party.
-john