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zpj...@unl.ac.uk

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Feb 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/26/96
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Got bounced off a rock whilst surfing on New Year's Day, net results:

- torn ligaments in my ankle
- bad back
- bruised arm

The back and arm are ok now but my ankle's still stuffed after 6 weeks.
Any of you wh have had similar injuries got a top tip to get this
ankle sorted quicker?


James
London Surf Club

John4Surf

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Feb 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/26/96
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The California Coastal Commissionwill have a hearing/vote in Santa Barbara
at the Radisson Hotel Friday March 15 to determine if Cardiff State Beach
should give 80 public parking spaces to a local valet parking service that
parks cars for a near by restaurant.

For those of you not familiar with the geographics, Santa Barbara is
probably 5-6 hours drive away from Cardiff. Of course the Commission will
not have the hearing in Cardiff because the public will have as easy
access to the Commission as will the lawyers and agent for the applicant
valet service.

Application 6-98-8 is a request to renew Application 6-94-68 when in June
1994, the Coastal Commission first allowed the local valet service to take
80 spaces on a first come first served basis from 6 to 11 p.m. each
evening. The valet service pays a small monthly fee for these public
spaces and parks commercial restaurant patrons cars after sun down without
the benefit of paying the $5 parking fee that is required of the public.

If you are a member of the PUBLIC and want to park your car in the Cardiff
State Beach while you surf or walk the beach when the sun goes down, you
will receive a ticket for about $60, unless you are a patron at the
restaurant! Remember, this is supposed to be a PUBLIC parking lot at a
State Beach where patrons are supposed to display a receipt from the iron
ranger parking dispenser or, have a State Parks pass attached to the
windshield. The public is not permitted to park in the lot and illegally
parked "public" cars (even with a parking permit) will be cited.

Why am I pissed? I bought an annual State Parks sticker and was parked
in the PUBLIC lot and got a parking ticket for being parked in the lot
after sundown while the valet parked restaurant patron cars were not
ticketed!

I frequent the State Beach at Cardiff almost every evening. The valet
traffic, especially on Fridays and on weekends adds significant traffic to
the public parking lot (at least 80 round trips with guys driving who are
in a hurry). This is just what I want at a State Park where I come for
recreation. The valet service is supposed to monitor its self but has
done a poor job.

For most of the summer, valets parked in the lot before 6 pm. One
afternoon, we counted 29 cars improperly parked between 5:40 and 5:45 pm.
A complaint was faxed to the State but no reply was ever received.

I can't travel to Santa Barbara. I've protested what I consider the
commercial abuse of the parking lot at one of the finest Southern
California surfing spots we have going for us with letters and faxes. I
guess I am on a soap box because this may end up spreading to other State
beaches. This is just another example of the State taking away something
from the public for the benefit of a politically connected business.

If you agree that the commercialization of a recreation parking lot will
not benefit public users of our State beaches, why not send a fax
expressing you opinion to the valet company's agent, Department of
California Agent Paul Webb at 619.298.6241.

Perhaps they will reconsider extending contract 6-96-8. It really is not
in the interest of the people of california (unless you decide to have
dinner at the near by restaurant).

John4Surf

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Feb 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/26/96
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Sorry, an error in my earlier post. In 1994, the Coastal Commission gave
up 40 (not 80) public spaces to the valet service for their "first come
first serve" use. The new proposal intends to give 80 spaces which may be
half or more than half of the public's parking spaces to restaurant
patrons!

Your tax dollars and public servants at work for your best interest! Oh,
that's right. The government is here to help you!

Matthew Salmon

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Feb 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/27/96
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zpj...@unl.ac.uk wrote:
: Got bounced off a rock whilst surfing on New Year's Day, net results:


: James
: London Surf Club


YEAH - CRUTCHES!!

Stay off the bugger for a while.

MATT.

Thomas Keener

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Feb 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/27/96
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In article <4gsq1q$s...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, john...@aol.com (John4Surf) says:
>
>The California Coastal Commissionwill have a hearing/vote in Santa Barbara
>at the Radisson Hotel Friday March 15 to determine if Cardiff State Beach
>should give 80 public parking spaces to a local valet parking service that
>parks cars for a near by restaurant.
>
sniparoo..

So, which restaurant is it? And do they charge for valet parking? (Some
don't.) Is one solution to drive to the restaurant, let them park your
car, and walk to the beach from there? If the bureaucrats screw it up,
there may be another way to skin that cat.

Tom

SideOff

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Feb 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/29/96
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: Nice of them to have a meeting in Santa Barbara for an issue in San
: Diego. Is this intended to make it difficult on individuals it directly
: effects?

We have an complicated access issue here near San Luis Obispo that is
going to a Coastal Commission hearing that will also be heard in Santa
Barbara, making it difficult for the public to attend. Ironically it was
originally going to be heard in San Diego.
In addition, Coastal Commission hearings typically only allow for a
TOTAL of 15 minutes public comment for each side of the issue. Meaning
that if one person spoke, they would get 15 minutes, but if 30 people
spoke they would only get 30 seconds apiece. And they are rigid about
that, so be prepared. Also, Coastal Commissioners are significantly
swayed by the staff report which comes out several days prior to the
meetings and so they can have their minds made up on issues before the
hearings take place. The best thing to do is write letters directly to
the Commissioners as soon as the staff report for whatever issue comes
out AND show up at the meeting.
Good luck
Brian Caserio

Will Borgeson

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Feb 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/29/96
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Bill Higgins (hig...@heliox.ucsd.edu) wrote:

: Nice of them to have a meeting in Santa Barbara for an issue in San
: Diego. Is this intended to make it difficult on individuals it directly
: effects?

Probably. This approach was taken a few years back when State
Parks wanted to start charging for access ("parking") at state-owned
beaches in Sonoma and Mendo counties that had always been free...the
public hearing was held in San Francisco, hours away from some of the
affected spots.

Eventually Parks realized that it was going to cost more to
collect the $ than would be taken in, since hundreds of beach-goers were
actively refusing to pay for access to the ocean (guaranteed by the
Coastal Act of 1972).

In Sonoma Co, it's hard to shake the impression that park rangers
spend most of their time driving their shiny new vehicles up and down
Highway 1, an odd way to take care of the parks, especially since this
style of operation crippled the head of a household a few years back, when
a ranger trying to eyeball the ocean and drive at the same time, drifted
over the double-yellow and ran head-on into another vehicle. I was never
able to learn how much $ that cost us taxpayers, but for the sake of this
large family whose source of income was destroyed, I hope it was
substantial. Also substantial must be the amount of our $ wasted on gas
for all this endless, mindless "patrol work." California's park rangers
have evolved from smokey-the-bear type nature interpreters and parkland
maintainers, into guntoting State Police...

Will

hewitt

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Mar 3, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/3/96
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In article <4gs7lk$1...@epsilon.qmw.ac.uk>, zpj...@unl.ac.uk wrote:

> Got bounced off a rock whilst surfing on New Year's Day, net results:
>
> - torn ligaments in my ankle
> - bad back
> - bruised arm
>
> The back and arm are ok now but my ankle's still stuffed after 6
weeks.
> Any of you wh have had similar injuries got a top tip to get this
> ankle sorted quicker?


Yeah, when ever it snowed, about a month ago i went sleging: ramped a big
jump and took all the weight of me and my mate on my ankle when landing.
At first i thought i broke it, but managed to walk home. Over the next day
it swelled up all round the ankle, to the point where i could'nt go to
school cos' i couldn't walk on it. After a week i tried to surf on it -
not a good idea, i stuffed it up even more.
Anyway the best thing to do is to put it in hot water (as hot as you
can take) then after a couple of minutes put it in cold water. I also got
an ankle support ("Prosport" about £4.50) from the chemist, and wear it
when surfing.
After 5 weeks or what ever it still pull a bit, and the swelling is
still evident, but wearing the support i can surf on it, just. It hurts a
little on standing up for the first wave but i can do tricks on it. I also
recomend skateboarding on it, not tricks just carving and turning, as it
has seemed to strengthen the ankle some what, and prepare for the turns on
the wave.

Hope this has helped -
Chris.
(Wits Surf Page)
http://user.itl.net/~hewitt/

NefcyTom

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Mar 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/4/96
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In article <3134D1...@heliox.ucsd.edu>, Bill Higgins
<hig...@heliox.ucsd.edu> writes:

>Nice of them to have a meeting in Santa Barbara for an issue in San
>Diego. Is this intended to make it difficult on individuals it directly
>effects?

You may want to try the militant approach: take the citation to court and
fight it on the grounds there were no public hearings. The city and the
coastal commission may site the hearing held in SB but I believe it is
required the hearing be held in the area effected by changes being
considered. State Sunshine statutes require it. In other words the permit
granted the eatery for valet parking is not valid because the state and
others broke the rules when they issued it.

Request a jury trial. Fight it to the max. Subpeona the Coastal
Commissioners and have them explain to a jury of locals why they held the
hearings in SB instead of SD. Make it hurt.

If enough of you extract a pint of blood from the local court system over
a stinking $60 parking citation they will get the message.

Tommy Nefcy
Malibu surfer

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